Orbea Rise frame noise, from linkage? Let's change bearing and find out!

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Trial and error time! After cleaning my linkage bearings last time the noise went away for 20 minutes into the ride and came back. Found 2 right rear bearings to be done so will be swapping them.
Will also be regreasing the main frame pivot and use MucOff Dry Lube before my next ride and will see if the frame creaking goes away!

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  • @DennyTran09
    @DennyTran092 жыл бұрын

    Really enjoyed this pov video. I enjoy the comical aspect of it. Keep up the good work with videos. Loved how you even got blue bearings to match the bike.

  • @allshownogolf

    @allshownogolf

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks bro! Those blue bearings add extra boost ⚡⚡⚡

  • @BalticMoe
    @BalticMoe2 жыл бұрын

    Hey Dude, as always, one step ahead. 😉😅 For me, this is also on the tour-do-list. Thanks for the awesome instructions!!! 🤘🏼

  • @allshownogolf

    @allshownogolf

    2 жыл бұрын

    No problem bud! Ppl are discussing the creaking on the forums and sounds like the main pivot is the culprit. If this doesn't work will lessen the preload on the linkage! 🤙🏻

  • @tjay_mac
    @tjay_mac2 жыл бұрын

    Hi, Excellent video! I noticed at 9:52 mark, when you let go of the linkage, it kind of dropped down slowly. You want the linkage to kind of "swing". You can back off on the preload just a tad. As long as there's no play between the linkage and frame when you try to slide the linkage axle in and out, you're good. The creaking noise is from the balls inside the shielded bearings not sitting on its groove because the ball bearings are being pushed in/out of it via the preload. Not from the linkage rubbing on anything. The dry lube will not fix anything either, it is used as process of elimination. Drop some lube and if the creaking goes away, then work on that area/part. If it doesn't, move to the next part. Please keep us posted. Thanks!

  • @allshownogolf

    @allshownogolf

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the info! Will definitely keep that in mind. Will prob clean those main pivot bearings if creaks persist! 🙏🏻

  • @badhabit2889

    @badhabit2889

    Жыл бұрын

    My rise h30 linkage axle is very tight have to use rubber mallet remove and re-install, and when axle is installed the bearing feels binding and it doesnt move/rotate freely wtf

  • @allshownogolf

    @allshownogolf

    Жыл бұрын

    @@badhabit2889 Sorry to hear buddy. When the bearing goes back it should still move freely but with a lot of grinding/crepitus. When the linkage doesn't move freely then you know it's too "tight" in the sense that the preload tool was pushing the linkage in too far. I wonder if Orbea noticed these complaints and started using retaining compound which makes it really hard to take off. Gluck.

  • @pham3
    @pham32 жыл бұрын

    You really know your bikes and engineering.

  • @allshownogolf

    @allshownogolf

    2 жыл бұрын

    All know no go 😭

  • @pham3

    @pham3

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@allshownogolf Hahaha, your videos seem more natural. I also like your natural presenting, comical, and enthusiasm YEW

  • @trailhuntercy4433
    @trailhuntercy4433 Жыл бұрын

    JUSTSUBSCRIBED BRO!!!NICE!!!👍👍👍👍👍👍

  • @kurtbair6645
    @kurtbair6645 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for this. I’ve had the same annoying noise. Which coil over are you using there? I’d like to go that route. I’m also around 220.

  • @allshownogolf

    @allshownogolf

    Жыл бұрын

    I got the Push Industry shock, they customize it for you 👍🏻

  • @ramoer
    @ramoer2 жыл бұрын

    Did it work for you? I tried the other guys fix loosening the preload on the linkage and added mucoff....didnt work still makes the creaking noise when pedaling.

  • @allshownogolf

    @allshownogolf

    2 жыл бұрын

    Damn sorry to hear. I am actually installing new brakes so haven't ridden it. Will report back!

  • @oliverk7330
    @oliverk7330 Жыл бұрын

    Hi, thanks for the great video! Unfortunately my Rise has the same creaking. I got a question regarding the Loctite 638, maybe you can help me out here. Manufacturer says 638 is for permanent bonds which can't be loosened with just torque. Is the connection really that strong? Have you tried removing the linkage again since you applied the Loctite? Kind of wonders me why you should put a permanent glue on something that needs to be maintenanced regularly, nonetheless in Orbea Occam's manual which has the same linkage it says to use Loctite 638 as well ...

  • @allshownogolf

    @allshownogolf

    Жыл бұрын

    It was really tight, I haven't tried to remove it, but at the same time the creaking never came back. Do it at your own risk! 😅 Happy riding bud

  • @6295607
    @62956075 ай бұрын

    At 3:00 you just pulled the linkage apart. Mine are stuck. What to do? I tried even a bearing press pushing them outwards.

  • @markgeorge6907
    @markgeorge6907 Жыл бұрын

    spend some time learning how to use your bearing press set. you have drifts that match your bearings that press both your outer and inner ring precisely, which will ensure that you fully insert the bearing into it's socket.

  • @allshownogolf

    @allshownogolf

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks Mark, definitely a noobie here, thanks for the comment and recommendation bud!

  • @thewrx2600
    @thewrx26002 жыл бұрын

    what pedals are those, look cool? are they 165's or shorter than stock too?

  • @allshownogolf

    @allshownogolf

    2 жыл бұрын

    Pedals are Yoshimura. Cranks are 5Dev 160mm 👍🏻

  • @Teozazza
    @Teozazza Жыл бұрын

    Did you put loctite 638 on both splines? Or just on the left one?

  • @allshownogolf

    @allshownogolf

    Жыл бұрын

    I put it on both splines. The newest Hydro manual didn't mention it for some reason. Note, it's going to be hard to take off the assembly though, but my frame hasnt creaked since.

  • @kieranrtv1361
    @kieranrtv1361 Жыл бұрын

    How are the bearings holding up from kinetic bearings? Are they any good looking at replacing mine but unsure which ones to get. Thanks

  • @allshownogolf

    @allshownogolf

    Жыл бұрын

    They feel great, though I haven't open the frame up since. Will do a tune up maybe later this year 👍🏻

  • @kieranrtv1361

    @kieranrtv1361

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@allshownogolf just out of curiosity how many miles have you done on it since putting them bearings in?

  • @allshownogolf

    @allshownogolf

    Жыл бұрын

    @@kieranrtv1361 I'd say about 300ish

  • @albertfranqui9138
    @albertfranqui91382 жыл бұрын

    If possible change by enduro max bearing.

  • @craigwaterworth9123
    @craigwaterworth9123 Жыл бұрын

    Have you done the bottom main pivot bearings yet ?

  • @allshownogolf

    @allshownogolf

    Жыл бұрын

    No I haven't

  • @vmao4868
    @vmao48682 жыл бұрын

    What crank arms do you have? They look really cool.

  • @allshownogolf

    @allshownogolf

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks man, it's from Ride5Dev 🤙🏻

  • @vmao4868

    @vmao4868

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@allshownogolf Thank you!

  • @thewrx2600

    @thewrx2600

    2 жыл бұрын

    whoops didn't see this, good to know.

  • @Adam-vm8kp
    @Adam-vm8kp Жыл бұрын

    Why didn’t you replace the two chainstay bearings at the dropout?

  • @allshownogolf

    @allshownogolf

    Жыл бұрын

    Hey bud, at that point the bike was only a few months old so I was just investigating the noise around the linkage.

  • @Adam-vm8kp

    @Adam-vm8kp

    Жыл бұрын

    @@allshownogolf ah, fair play then 👍

  • @johannesschneider3154
    @johannesschneider31542 жыл бұрын

    I have to work around that noise too.

  • @allshownogolf

    @allshownogolf

    2 жыл бұрын

    Heard some ppl say it's because the linkage preload is too high/tight. I'm going to loosen it if this doesnt work

  • @1994ls1

    @1994ls1

    Жыл бұрын

    @@allshownogolf did the creaking noise go away?

  • @allshownogolf

    @allshownogolf

    Жыл бұрын

    Not after I made sure the linkage has 0.5mm space on either side

  • @dannyk4095

    @dannyk4095

    Жыл бұрын

    Have that Creaking Noise on my rise h30 too. Die you loose the linkage? Can you do This without removing all the bearing Screws, only with the linkage Tool?

  • @allshownogolf

    @allshownogolf

    Жыл бұрын

    @@dannyk4095 Just make sure there's a little space (0.5mm) both sides of the linkage and the noise will go away

  • @tw1npe4ks
    @tw1npe4ks2 жыл бұрын

    What is that toolkit for bearings?

  • @allshownogolf

    @allshownogolf

    2 жыл бұрын

    Generic bearing press kit from Amazon

  • @tw1npe4ks

    @tw1npe4ks

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@allshownogolf Can you give a link for it?

  • @allshownogolf

    @allshownogolf

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@tw1npe4ks Bicycle Bearing Press Set, Drift Bike Tool Kit Set, Turning Point for Wheels Hub Universal Cycle Bearing Press Set, Nice Tools for Bicycle Repair a.co/d/a3xYFlU

  • @TheCeratul
    @TheCeratul Жыл бұрын

    Hi, a little questions about the axle. At my Rise H15 the axle was so tight that I had to extract it with a hammer. Result was that one bearing came out of the frame sticking on the axle. The new bearings I have here also slip on the axle by hand. In your video you are able to shift the axle in and out with your hand. Is this correct?

  • @allshownogolf

    @allshownogolf

    Жыл бұрын

    Yes the axle can be slipped on by hand, only the bearings will need a press 👍🏻

  • @TheCeratul

    @TheCeratul

    Жыл бұрын

    @@allshownogolf thanks for your answer. Earlyer this week I visited my dealer with my bike. He told me that everything is fine and he would not claim that by orbea. So I took the bike back home with me and thinking about further steps. I´m very frustrated at the moment about the manner my dealer treated me

  • @allshownogolf

    @allshownogolf

    Жыл бұрын

    @@TheCeratul sorry to hear, the only way I can imagine that happening is the inner diameter of the axle bearing they used was too small? Or maybe they didn't use grease and they seized together?

  • @TheCeratul

    @TheCeratul

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@allshownogolf I think the axle is too big. I tried three different new bearings, and no one did slip on the axle easily. I measured the axle. The diameter is 20,007mm on the one and 20,010mm on the other side. Paired with the bearing, which has a tolerance of 0 / -0,01mm I have too much oversize on the fit. I got in touch with orbea directly, hoping that they will help me out. As a last solution I will put the axle on a lathe and sand it down till it fits properly. What I don’t want is that my dealer reassemble it with force and does further damage on the bike.

  • @allshownogolf

    @allshownogolf

    Жыл бұрын

    @@TheCeratul damn that sucks, hope it works out bud

  • @testtesttesttesttest884
    @testtesttesttesttest884 Жыл бұрын

    Hey dude not a good idea to use your torque wrench as a normal wrench.

  • @allshownogolf

    @allshownogolf

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks

  • @ibcrypto6139
    @ibcrypto61399 ай бұрын

    How much use/miles did you have on your Rise before this creaking appeared? This seems extreme - no? Is this a warranty item? Another KZreadr got rid by loosening and tightening one of the pivot points. kzread.info/dash/bejne/iY6VmZKmlqTdkrw.html The missing ball bearing was weird if Orbea got a bad batch of bearings? I had a rear hub go out on my Rise H20 and was told they had a bad batch by my local bike shop, (but who knows). That said your went above and beyond and I hope Orbea fixes whatever issue is causing this creaking for so many - including me! Thank You.

  • @allshownogolf

    @allshownogolf

    9 ай бұрын

    Yes I have another follow up video which i fixed that issue.

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