Operation Gomorrah: The Allied Firebombing of Hamburg
In July of 1943, British bombers raided Hamburg, Germany, during the night. Here is what happened.
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Simon: Every war introduces the world to new horrors Gulf War Veterans: I hate sand. Its course, and ruff, and irritating. And it gets everywhere.
@neonclear8500
2 жыл бұрын
I just realized Simon hates Star Wars and as such, probably won't get that reference. And that makes me sad
@C21H30O2
Жыл бұрын
Gulf War syndrome?
@tomdog5265
Жыл бұрын
@@C21H30O2 That's from all the depleted uranium dust. Lots of projectiles were made with depleted uranium. It isn't good for you. If you snort depleted uranium dust, you'll get GWS too.
@jimtalbott9535
Жыл бұрын
But have you heard the tragedy, of Darth….Sand…..?
@ryhol5417
Жыл бұрын
A lot of dudes got cancer and gulf war syndrome. But yeah dirt isn’t great
Warographics: How much history do you *really* want? Great work Simon & team, a tough watch but valuable. Everyone else: like and subscribe!
@robertsears8323
2 жыл бұрын
How was it tough to watch? I love hearing about evil Nazis getting firebombed. Same with the heartwarming story of how we firebombed Tokyo.
@stephanarnemann7305
2 жыл бұрын
I listen to Simon's videos like a podcast. This one was rough to listen too.
My grandfather was a prisoner of war and was forced to help with cleaning up Hamburg after the bombing. The memories of the burned bodies and destruction haunted him his entire life.
@mistercarousel1872
Жыл бұрын
:( My grandpa was taken POW by Americans at a point in the war where most German soldiers taken prisoner simply accepted defeat and were pretty happy to be taken by Americans rather than sovjets. Conditions were apparently luxurious compared to being a soldier on the field for Germany that late in the war, or even worse, a Soviet POW. My grandpa however was young and well indoctrinated, it occurred to him a lot later, that he was only able to simply leave the POW camp so shortly after arriving because the Americans didn't think anyone was dumb enough to want to leave at that point lol. He described it as literally being walked in through the front gate and walking out on the other side later that day.
@jezalb2710
Жыл бұрын
My Polish grandfather was conscripted to the Wehrmacht. Ended up in France. Managed to flee and joined the Polish army in the UK
@CorePathway
Жыл бұрын
This was a war crime. One of many, but a big one.
@marial3231
11 ай бұрын
My grandfather was also a pow in Warsaw. Part of the underground in WWII. Showed us his cell now a historical moment downtown. He was such a badass is all I can describe it. Miss him sooo much
@gaoxiaen1
11 ай бұрын
@@CorePathway A well-deserved war crime, like all the others that Nazi Germany received. Turnabout is fair play. The Soviet Reunion, losing and retreating, is going to receive payback in spades. Bunker Grandpa destroyed Russia's future for generations.
A firestorm must be one of the most terrifying things to witness imaginable.
@duncancurtis1758
2 жыл бұрын
The 1871 Peshtigo fire was hugely inspirational in its methods.
@cleverusername9369
2 жыл бұрын
Look up some of the wildfire scenes from the movie "Only the Brave" about the Granite Mountain Hotshot firefighters. Gives you an idea of a firestorm and agreed, it must be terrifying.
@samshepperrd
2 жыл бұрын
No one will ever know. If you're close enough to see it, you're being sucked into the flames at 200 mph +.
@theawesomeman9821
2 жыл бұрын
I feel bad for the victims even if they were Germans
@samshepperrd
2 жыл бұрын
@@theawesomeman9821 Many Germans saw through and disagreed with Hitler. Some actively opposed Hitler. Nothing new about a cult of personality seizing control of a country. The Germans had bombed England's civilians. They were just returning I'm kind. Americans would have done the same if Germany had bombed American cities. But I doubt anyone could have known the human toll that was taken.
Hitler said, when he first took control of Germany. "Give me ten years and you won't recognize Germany." Well, he wasn't wrong about that.
@easterworshipper730
10 ай бұрын
In the first year Germany was already transformed.
@WarblesOnALot
9 ай бұрын
G'day, My mother in law was born in Germany in 1930, she was 3 when Adolf was Elected (Unlike George W. Bush, who was appointed by a crooked Court Injunction)... She was 15 when Hitler shit himself As he shot himself... Her comment was that, "Hitler was a very clever man, and he was a great leader, but he was betrayed ; and if only someone had Assassinated Hitler in 1938..., why - then Today there would Still be Statues of Der FUHRER Standing All over Europe, Today....!" She moved to England in 1955, to Australia in 1967, and back to Germany in 2003. She's still there, in a little Village outside Duisburg, aged 93. The mental gymnastics and circumloqutions employed by old Nazis are truly Labrynthine. Is she happy or sad that nobody composted Adolf in 1938 ? I still dunno ! Such is life, Have a good one... ;-p Ciao !
@jamesrickeard5278
9 ай бұрын
@@easterworshipper730is not 🚫🚫😊😊😅😊😊😅😅😂
@easterworshipper730
9 ай бұрын
@@jamesrickeard5278 it was.
@daleburrell6273
8 ай бұрын
@@WarblesOnALot...GEORGE BUSH IS DEAD- WHY DON'T YOU SHUT YOUR LOUSY KEISTER?!!
The script for this was so well written. And, Simon did such a great job of presenting it. It was like being there - terrible, painful and heartbreaking. If I could give it more thumbs up, I would.
1:30 - Chapter 1 - The age of annihilation 5:25 - Chapter 2 - A secret window 8:40 - Chapter 3 - Louder than bombs 12:10 - Chapter 4 - "Then the lord rained down burning sulfur" 15:35 - Chapter 5 - Fire in the sky 19:10 - Chapter 6 - The reckoning
Do one about the firebombing of Tokyo. It remains the most destructive air raid in history.
@pyromania1018
2 жыл бұрын
Really? I thought that title belonged to the bombing of Pyongyang during the Korean War. General Curtis "Bombs Away" LeMay boasted that he only grounded his planes after they ran out of targets to hit.
@SuperPiratesfan
2 жыл бұрын
Yes, but Pyongyang was a sustained bombing campaign carried out over several years, whereas the first fire raid in Tokyo was over just one night. So perhaps it would be more accurate to say that they both take a trophy in different categories: Tokyo for the most destructive *singular* air raid, Pyongyang for the most destructive bombing campaign over an extended period.
@pyromania1018
2 жыл бұрын
@@SuperPiratesfan Ah, that makes more sense.
@SuperPiratesfan
2 жыл бұрын
@@pyromania1018 Thank you. :)
@pantherace1000
2 жыл бұрын
Osaka would loose 98% of its buildings during the air campaign over japan.
If you want to reach into recent history, I'd recommend videos on the Battle of Fallujah or the Battle of Ramadi
@jessiesratrods1210
2 жыл бұрын
Fallujah would be a really good one to cover.
@TheChronozoan
2 жыл бұрын
Yes please. I'd watch and share the shit out of any of the recent Middle East battles.
@samshepperrd
2 жыл бұрын
I talked to a US Marine veteran of Fallujah. bout 1/3 of his cranium was gone. He'd been in a gun battle that took ace in the world's largest cemetery there. After a bullet caught him in the head, his buddies held his brains in best they could till he could be medevacted. He spoke like a two year old. Spoke of how his marriage days were numbered because the man she married wasn't there anymore.
@itsblitz4437
2 жыл бұрын
I would like to hear about the Siege of Sarajevo that one is pretty underrated and not quite often discussed about.
@theawesomeman9821
2 жыл бұрын
isn't Fallujah, the bloodiest battle from the Iraq war?
Hamburg is my Hometown, we were taught a lot about WWII in school and operation gomorra and visited the arbeitslager in Neuengamme. there's little evidence left today, of what has happened, but in some central districts there are no, or few old buildings, like Hammerbrook or St.Pauli. St. Petri church is the only obvious witness, and if you search closely, you can find some bullet holes in the central station.
@Astrid-jt8cd
2 ай бұрын
Hitler never visited the bombed out city. The wrath of God?,no
Who would like to see an episode on The Boxer Rebellion and the siege of the Legation Forces? Such a fantastic piece of history, and so many dominos sent tumbling that would dictate the future of the world. Holding out against immeasurable odds, MacGyver-ing artillery together, a race against time to relieve the besieged, I think it would be an amazing episode! Keep doing what you do Simon you Legend
"Reap the whirlwind" quite literally
@brianeleighton
Жыл бұрын
That was actually Bomber Harris' motto. His attitude was German civilians had it coming after Germany's Blitz Campaign of England. People wringing their hands over the brutality of the Allied air campaign seem to forget that Germany TRIED to do the exact same thing first. The problem was Germany didn't have a single heavy bomber type in their Air Force. The Allies had two. The Lancaster and the B-29. A single Lancaster bomber could carry over twice the bomb load of the heaviest German bomber.
@raphaalf3952
Жыл бұрын
@@brianeleighton like that makes it any better
@drrisen-9442
Жыл бұрын
@@raphaalf3952 On the contrary it probably made it rather worse for the Germans.
This is extremely well made - your eloquence is above and beyond.
Thank you Simon, this is a piece of history that is extremely close to my heart and don't think I have ever seen it that well explained
Please do a video on the firebombing of Tokyo! It’s very briefly mentioned in U.S. schools (perhaps a sentence or two), but I’d really like to know more about it. Excellent video, as always, Simon and team 😊🙌🏻💯👏🏻
To be specific, the first bombing raid on a civilian target was carried out by the twenty-nine Junkers Ju-87B Stuka dive bombers of Sturzkampfgeschwader 76, commanded by Captain Walter Sigel of the Luftwaffe. The air raid took place at 05:40 on 1 September 1939 (though some sources put the time at an hour earlier). The target was the town of Wieluń in Poland: specifically, the hospital in the centre of the town was the primary aim point. The German aircraft dropped a total of 141 bombs on the hospital and surrounding buildings, killing 32 patients and staff. When the hospital caught fire, the German aircraft also machine-gunned the people trying to flee the blaze. There was no opposition to the attack; Wieluń was undefended. All 29 aircraft returned to base safely. At least three more bombing attacks were carried out on Wieluń during the course of the day; two more in the morning and one in the afternoon. In total, 46 tons of bombs were dropped on the town in that single day, damaging or destroying over 70% of its buildings. Civilian casualties are not known with precision: there were 127 confirmed and identified dead, but the total number of deaths is likely to have been many times higher than that.
This is a great piece of content, thanks, Simon!
I would describe WWII in one sentence as "War against civilians on an unprecedented scale." Civilians always suffer in wars but WWII wins 1st prize for the sheer callous scale of it.
@ogdocvato
Жыл бұрын
Thermonuclear war will make WW2 seem like a schoolyard scuffle.
@BobHooker
Жыл бұрын
Learn more Chinese history
@timothyhouse1622
Жыл бұрын
Wait until you read what Genghis Kahn did. Yes, the NUMBERS are higher in World war 2 but that is because populations are larger. Ancient warfare was far bloodier when looked at per capita. Genghis Kahn wiped out ENTIRE NATIONS.
@BobHooker
Жыл бұрын
@@timothyhouse1622 During the Mongol wars there were simply not enough human beings on planet earth to wrack up the kind of numbers the USSR and the Nazis wracked up. Actually the highest percentages to to civil wars in China which even surpassed Mongol numbers
@tomdog5265
Жыл бұрын
@@BobHooker Yeah. The Opium Wars. Those British can teach the Saudis a thing or two about cruelty.
I'm a year late on this video since it was buried. But would you consider doing a video on LeMay's firebombing raids over Japan as a contrast to Harris' bombing missions in Europe? LeMay himself admitted his behavior was demonstrous and believed had the allies lost the war, he'd have been tried for war crimes. The fire bombings on Japan, like the European ones, were exceptionally heinous and in Japan's case did more damage and took more lives than the nukes did by a wide margin. Love your videos, Simon. Thank you.
@gaoxiaen1
11 ай бұрын
Rule #1.Don't start barbaric wars of aggression. Rule#2. If you start a barbaric war of aggression, don't lose. Rule#3. If you lose, don't expect mercy.
@livethefuture2492
9 ай бұрын
Then again this was Japan we are talking about...its not like they deserved any mercy. Japan knew what was coming...The potsdam declaration was clear enough. And their leaders were happy to accept as such. "Glorious death of 20 million and all that..." they didnt care for their people and were more than prepared to sacrifice the entire population of the country if the allies landed on japanese soil. Iwo Jima and Okinawa had taught us that well enough... i Dont see a war crime...in this war frankly that definition meant little in a total war like this. Japan was going to fight or die fighting. They would die than surrender, Iwo jima and Okinawa taught us that well enough. In such a situation, what else do you expect is going to happen. "Prompt and utter destruction..." , and that is precisely what they got.
@shironasama0445
6 ай бұрын
@@livethefuture2492You’re just an idiot. Their civilians weren’t the ones who started their war. It’s most definitely a war crime.
Good video, but so dark and brutal that I would have expected to see it rather in Into the shadows. Great work nevertheless Simon and team!
Another amazing video!
I thought Dresden was the award winner for utter destruction & casualties. Learn something every day ! Awesome video Simon.
@Iskelderon
Жыл бұрын
Dresden was just even more of an atrocity, because previous bomb runs had first herded civilians into the city.
Very well told Simon and ably supported by the backroom Team. Well done all. A+ production.
"Do it again Bomber Harris."
Good work!
Excellent. Thank you.
Years ago I read the book "The Night Hamburg Died". People jumped into canals. The flames gradually heated the water. The people were faced with a choice. Stay in the water and slowly boil to death, or (if they're lucky) drown. Or, get out of the water and roast to death. After the fires subsided, "rescuers" plied the water in boats. Whenever they tried removing one of the half cooked people from the still hot water, they howled on pain because the worst thing in the world for a burn victim is exposure to air. And so, the "rescuers" resorted to administering a bullet to the heads of the survivors as the only form of mercy possible. Arthur Harris was vilified after the war. There were protests when a statue commemorating him was finally erected. His line of the family died out. Churchill was aware of the level of carnage but did nothing to stop it.
@marcoosvald8429
2 жыл бұрын
War is HELL, and yet we find ways to continually inflict this kind of torment and destruction upon our fellow man and for what? Now Vladimir is riding with the other 3 horseman and Mariupol is in smoking ruins. Why do they target civilians like this? Great presentation Simon. Spot on.
@samshepperrd
2 жыл бұрын
@@marcoosvald8429 Putin targets civilians to prove no one will or can stand up to him and to make Ukrainians think their deaths are Zelinski's fault for not capitulating.
@fuckyoutube5584
2 жыл бұрын
There is no love or peace in war. Just carnage and death with destruction awaits when war breaks out. Humans at their truest forms. Either they choose to kill or be killed.
@OneSocaJumbie
2 жыл бұрын
Alas, when the aggressor of a war is committed to the slaughter and subjugation of your people, there is no high road to take. It's them or us.
@chodkowski01
Жыл бұрын
The German people supported the war. It’s because of the German people that all this happened. The big question you need to ask yourself is how did this all start.
I have a Book on the Topic of the Bombings of Hamburg and expecially the Firestorm of 1943. It´s the Hometown of my Father and I will never forget the Images of the Destruction. I don´t remember the War, I was born almost fifthy Years after. Yet, with the Images in these Books, I can imagine the City that´s somewhat my second Home, the Place my Parents work, in Ruins. It´s a harrowing Image, even for those not remembering the War. I can´t imagine how it must be for those who lived during this War
Wow, another great video
I hope you talk about more of the various battles or events of the Yugoslav Wars.
The RAF tested the right mix of bombs already in 1942. On March 29th they attacked the city of Lübeck. While th eloss of life was nothing compared to Hamburg (320 dead, 783 injured), but the complete inner city was destroyed. There was a very good German documentary in 1983. What added to the value of it, they still had people that lived there and bomber pilotes as eyewitness.
Great job as always for your entire crew, took me a while to get caught up thanks to being asleep in a hospital for the first couple months this year... Personally this has me wondering if I secretly hate myself. Honest representation of subjects like this involves the most self-destructive habit a veteran can pickup... Reflect on their career without all the self-justification and false bravado, and consider (A) the pain, misery, loss, and hatred a crazy guy whom jumps out of perfectly good aircraft can ignorantly unleashed & (B) you receive shut up medals in the military but without the uniform you're rewarded with the death penalty.
@ClassicRiki
Жыл бұрын
My personal view would be generally this: Survival of the fittest…if it wasn’t you, it would be them. That’s just nature. We like to believe we’re somehow outside of nature and the rules of evolution but in reality; we’re just extremely effective at speeding it up. We think that we should be better than that. That is simple human arrogance though. Many, many animals wage war, they kill and all the rest. We are just intelligent enough to sit back and question ourselves afterwards. Good or bad. We are part of nature and I’d suggest that considering this…there’s nothing specifically bad about you or your actions in the military. As long as you believed that you were doing the right thing, then you did the correct thing. I don’t know if that helps you but when I look at the British military (I’m British) 🇬🇧…I appreciate them doing what was required in order for me to exist and write this message to you.
my Oma survived a similar attack they also dropped phosphorus bombs turning concrete into what looked like boiling water
Watching this while a diffrent war is raging just outside my countries border makes me feel very uneasy. Still I enjoy your content
"The man for whom civilisation was synonymous with target." That is the best description of Arthur "Bomber" Harris that I have ever heard.
@Iskelderon
Жыл бұрын
His German counterparts got the noose, Harris got a memorial.
@Gwildor2020
10 ай бұрын
"German factories could be up and running again in a few weeks, but it would take 21 years to raise a new worker" - What a sick disgusting individual...just like the rest of the allied high command!
Just a sidenote: I love the thumbnail style for this video (same one you have on Barbarossa and Winter War) looks fresh!!
Is Simon attempting to make a video chapter for every channel he has?
Amazing content. Love every bit of the history
@Khasidon
2 жыл бұрын
Me too Olukola, have a great day!
very nice to watch our history and all what happened in these times
Hosea 8:7 "For they have sown the wind, and they shall reap the whirlwind: it hath no stalk; the bud shall yield no meal: if so be it yield, the strangers shall swallow it up". This is what nationalism and war mongering lead to. Every single time.
I wish I could get Simon to narrate my life! It would make it sound much cooler than it actually is 😅
My opa lived through the Munich bombings and has many crazy stories how they had to live under ground and he didn't know why this was happening because he was 6 but these memories were scarred into his head
I suggest the battles of: Marathon Thermopylae Cannae
Now *that's* shock and awe.
I only knew Dresden was the more famous German city to be firebombed? Thanks Simon Whistler for featuring this!
@Dank-gb6jn
2 жыл бұрын
Dresden was a war crime. Just as Tokyo was.
@MrTexasDan
2 жыл бұрын
@@Dank-gb6jn Dresden - maybe. It was controversial even during that time. There was little of military value there. On Tokyo - I disagree. There were major industrial areas in the bombing area. Those are fair game. If the enemy is killing your people, you can go after their weapon-making ability. The "civilians" are arms-factory workers. The children are unfortunately and criminally located in the factory areas..
@Dank-gb6jn
2 жыл бұрын
@@MrTexasDan I’m glad we can have a respectful conversation. I’ll have to pushback just a little on Tokyo. Now, I think we can agree that arms production and military targets should be taken out in war time. That’s a given if you want to win. Taking those factories out at the expense of *heavy* civilian casualties (be they arms factory workers who weren’t on shift at the time, children living next to the factories, hospitals (in the case of Hiroshima), banks, etc.) should be looked at as either strict war crimes, or unacceptable civilian losses. Had we completely leveled the Imperial Palace, in a tactical strike, with minimal civilian casualties, I’d agree with you 100%. However, we wiped out significant portions of a city (no doubt many places of significant military importance), but we also incinerated thousands upon thousands of people, and hundreds of thousands of years of historical and cultural value. So while I agree with you to an extent about Tokyo, I hope you can understand why I’m pushing back some.
@duncancurtis1758
2 жыл бұрын
Dresden was chosen largely as there wasn't much else already moonscaped by bombs by 1945.
@MrTexasDan
2 жыл бұрын
@@Dank-gb6jn I understand your feeling on the subject, but Tokyo and Yokohama were the manufacturing hub of the Japanese universe. Those munitions were sending thousands of US and Brit boys home in boxes. I still feel the bombing was totally justified. You also mention Hiroshima (and I assume Nagasaki) as being war crimes. I also completely disagree. The objective was to compel the Japanese to give up, and negate the need for a ground invasion of Japan. Any way you look at it, the invasion (Operation Downfall) would have resulted in massive casualties ... 500k to 1M US killed, and 5M-10M Japanese killed, plus the total annihilation of Japanese infrastructure and culture. There are 10s of millions of Americans and Japanese alive today because of this.
How does this guy end up hosting almost every video I watch. He's like the Steve Harvey of youtube.
Well now I know where to start for more research...and I really want to discuss this with my professor who was born there well after the war ended.
You should do some on WW1 battles like the Somme Gallipoli Battle of fort veaux
@andyyang3029
2 жыл бұрын
Yes battle of the Somme!!
@theawesomeman9821
2 жыл бұрын
How about Belleauwood? First WWI battle that the Americans won
@anthonyeaton5153
4 ай бұрын
@@andyyang3029The Somme has been flogged to death on utube.
Damn.. I guess it's not war crimes, if you win the war.. Chilling thought. Excellent work, Simon & team.
@StevenSmith-mk5fg
2 жыл бұрын
To be fair, the idea only came about due to what Germany had done to the UK. We took what the Germans did to us and perfected it.
@MrSniperfox29
Жыл бұрын
Ask a typical Londoner at the time how they felt about being bombed every night while the enemy sat in comparative luxury.
@PrezVeto
Жыл бұрын
@@StevenSmith-mk5fg That doesn't make it not a war crime.
@humansvd3269
2 ай бұрын
@@StevenSmith-mk5fgyou declared war on Germany, not the other way around.
This is a fascinating story but Operation Millennium that predated this and the 1st 1000 bomber raid on Cologne should not be forgotten.
How true are the words, war is hell.
Aluminum strips were known as “chaff” in the modern age, I was a Asst. Crew Chief on the F-4 Phantom, it carried chaff pods to mess up the radar, people used to put aluminum foil in their hubcaps, to confuse the Radar from Highway Patrol, than VASCAR came along, radar became somewhat obsolete. Who knows.
When Adolf declared 'total war' , he got it.
@callsigndd9ls897
Жыл бұрын
Now, I don't want to gloss over the crimes of the Nazis during the war, but they did not declare war on Britain. It was the other way around, Great Britain and France declared war on Germany. The British like to forget that.
@georgehh2574
10 ай бұрын
@@callsigndd9ls897 Well that makes no difference, since Nazi Germany committed acts of war even if they didn't declare it. The declaration of war was made in defence.
Air attack sirens in background, great touch
@anthonyeaton5153
4 ай бұрын
I've heard them several times for real. Eerie.
My Grandfather was in one of those B17 , the vanguard that dropped all the xmas tinsel to mislead the radar of the germans, only to prevent the higher command from dropping the A-Bomb on Hamburg- it could have been a lot worse for Hamburg, than we know. Btw, the same B17's also dropped food supplies a year later and I lived in Hamburg for most of my life.
I would love to see a video like this on Dresden, lest we forget.
@falconmclenny7284
2 жыл бұрын
You say lest we forget for the allies, don't be so disrespectful.
@Dank-gb6jn
2 жыл бұрын
Dresden was a war crime, a cultural center where at least 25,000 people were snuffed out. Shame it’s not covered more.
@Dank-gb6jn
2 жыл бұрын
@@falconmclenny7284 Dresden was considered Germany’s “Florence” in reference to the cultural pinnacle of Italy. Further, a 1953 report detailed that at least 50% of the civilian residences were completely obliterated in the city. Whether it was a “critical transportation junction” as Churchill claimed or not; 25,000+ people were wiped out, mostly civilians and refugees at that. Furthermore, it was even stated in the video that these terror tactics didn’t even work like the Allies had hoped! So the civilian deaths weren’t even WORTH it! Dresden, Hamburg, Tokyo; all three are stark Allied war crimes.
@falconmclenny7284
2 жыл бұрын
@MusicMaster1987 ... how do you say hi in Hebrew? My catholic parents would be very upset to hear their atheist son is now a rabbi. .mum will be heart broken, hail Mary's for days.
@Dank-gb6jn
2 жыл бұрын
@@falconmclenny7284 There’s not a response clear enough, concise enough, or respectful enough that I can give to you; that could explain why your statement is distasteful. You have your opinion, I have mine. Good day sir/Ma’am.
What a superb documentary. A fitting record of the atrocity of Hamburg.
How the KZread algorithm works: Video Title: "Gomorrah", Advert: Bible TV
@grlt23
2 жыл бұрын
How the Netflix works: You have just watched Bugs life - so maybe you want to watch now Human Centipede?
Good!
You should do the Australian battle of long tan or kokoda
@anthonyeaton5153
4 ай бұрын
Boggs they are minor skirmishes compared to Hamburg bombing.
I'm American but I one of my Urgroßmutter survived Operation Gomorrah. She was 77 at the time, refused to go into her bunker and told my Oma that she would rather die than live like that. The night she refused to leave her apartment, her bunker was bombed. She died in 1950 at 84. Seeing and hearing so much human suffering of people who were so ordinary around the world can't be expressed in words. I was born in the U.S. and heard so much from people of all nationalities. Human cruelty will never end.
“During the blitz, analysis had shown that civilians who lost their homes often failed to report for work the next day” Really? No shit...
I can only imagine what A sky full of a thousand planes would look like
You make unimaginable death and destruction bearable.
Make a video about Octavian and his fight against cleopatras
The things we do to each other , Hamburg now has an enemy in the opposite direction
I get sick just thinking about it. Burning alive is my #1 fear. It saddens me when those in charge abandon their ethics just because their enemy has. Also, since I’ve heard you talk about the Biblical Gomorrah more than once. Abraham negotiated with God to save the cities. First he got Him to agree not to destroy them if He found 50 righteous people there. Then he worked God down to 40, then 30, 20 and 10. That left Lot and his household who were told to get out of Dodge and don’t look back. So technically there were no innocents… but I always wonder about the children.
@stinkeye460
Жыл бұрын
Too bad every city and town in Germany were not destroyed in firestorms. When you see what the Germans did to the people in the countries they invaded, they deserve to be despised for eternity
@SafetySpooon
Жыл бұрын
It's an allegory
@lauren9667
Жыл бұрын
@@SafetySpooon I know. The Bible is chock full of them. It doesn’t change the story or invalidate the Bible. And my comment about children was more of a question about their view about children… guilt by association or just possessions.
I didn't even notice this video being published do to the different graphics in the thumbnail
damnit simon... i guess that im now a whistler head? or whatever u call your followers. i think im subbed to all of your channels now. your writers are great, and your always find a way to make topics interesting to listen to. way to suck me in... jerks ;p
I really love your videos and want to listen to this, but there's a high pitch background noise making it unlistenable right now. It isn't happening on any other videos so I don't think it's my headphones. Maybe it's just me?
I’d love to see one on The Spanish Civil War.
The firebombing of Tokyo I think was worst than this one.
Does he have a video on the ww2 tokyo fire bombing on any of his channels?
@sandybarnes887
2 жыл бұрын
Not yet
Soda and Gommera? Love that pronunciation.
@greyedgamer
Жыл бұрын
Beat me too it
As a wise man once said. "Don't make me angry. You wouldn't like me when I'm angry."
Rumor has it if you are early enough, Simon has a full set of hair on video
@rainbowtheythemshe1115
2 жыл бұрын
Got here first, can confirm
@jugs554433
2 жыл бұрын
I managed to get here just has his scalp was reobsorbing it
Burying the dead was worse than having your organs boil as your flesh roasts? I'm sure that the poor camp workers were likely to have a terrible fate ahead but sadly, removing the bodies of Hamburg was probably far from the worst they'd suffer. This was a brilliant video. People need to remember the cost of war on humanity.
Isn't that the guy from Xplrd?
Total war. Don't start wars and these things wouldn't happen🤷🤷🏼♂️🤷🏾♀️
@henrimourant9855
2 жыл бұрын
The young children didn't start the war though... :( And I don't think it was really necessary tbh.
@christopherharper9932
2 жыл бұрын
@@henrimourant9855 Realistically EVERYONE who lives in a nation at war will suffer. Therefore DON'T START WARS. Even here in "unbeatable" Murca. We may not be in immediate danger but our loved ones are. In my service days, someone reported me KIA and found out how my family felt. Midnight phone calls and tears. Peace.
@patrickscalia5088
2 жыл бұрын
Oh sure. It was absolutely right to burn those German women, children, and elderly to death by the tens of thousands to punish them for all the evil they'd done. I mean look at this terrible war they'd started, right? Deliberate targeting of noncombatants is an evil and a disgrace in ANY war. And is now universally considered a war crime AND crime against humanity. There's a very good reason why so-called strategic bombing is no longer considered legitimate warfare. It's because murdering children to achieve a military goal is rightfully recognized for the vicious and depraved evil that it is. And the USA has adopted as permanent policy the commitment to never do it again. Putin is rightfully considered a criminal for ordering his soldiers to murder noncombatants in Ukraine. It's an evil no matter who does it or why.
@tomhenry897
Жыл бұрын
You say that because you weren’t there
@PrezVeto
Жыл бұрын
War crimes happen because of amoral rationalizations like that.
I jus follow Simon on the internet 🖖😁
My grandfather was in dresden when it was bombed. He said after the raid, they emerged from the bomb shelter and witnessed total destruction. The whole city was gone.
@richardhoare9963
Жыл бұрын
My great uncle (British army) was a prisoner of war. He was a forced labourer at a lead mine just outside of Dresden. I can't recall its name sorry. After the bombing he, and his fellow prisoners, were sent into the city to clear the bodies and search for survivors. Whenever he spoke about it, which wasn't often, he would say his feelings were mixed. On the one hand he suffered some rough treatment and thought it was payback. On the other he thought it was unjustifiable.
I am not shure if i can press like on this... your tone ov voice and biblical annecdotes are way to upbeat and energetic for speaking about an event that unleashed hell on earth. i dont know man...
They sowed the wind and reaped the whirlwind.
Would be very interested in a video on the firebombing of Tokyo and other Japanese cities
@anthonyeaton5153
4 ай бұрын
Johnny why not find a book and READ about.
I’m fairly confident the fire bombing of Japan killed more was a lot more deadly then Hamburg, considering the cities were basically made of wood. I believe there were more casualties in those bombings then even the two nukes. Could be wrong on that, it’s been awhile since I’ve read up on that.
@eifelitorn
2 жыл бұрын
20:36
@robertmccardle5113
2 жыл бұрын
the reason they didnt drop the abomb on tokyo was there was nothing to bomb it had been burnt to the ground. General Curtis Lemay had stripped his bombers of guns to pack on more explosive and incinderaries. TOTAL WAR.
@keithmaddock7786
2 жыл бұрын
Your right. The low level fire bombing of Tokyo killed an estimated 100 000 and destroyed 26 square miles in a single raid. Still the deadliest in history
@seanmccarty1176
Жыл бұрын
When you only account for those that died on the day of the bombing, Tokyo was the deadliest. However, 80,000 people died in an instant at Hiroshima. Then 20,000 to 30,000 would die over the next 2 to 4 months. The highest estimates for Hiroshima place the eventual death toll at 149,000. I think a more reasonable number is between 105,000 and 115,000. The bomb also caused a firestorm that peaked about 3 hours after the detonation.
I couldn't try talking like Churchill for that long. A "spirited speech" delivered by a man who sounded bored
Do Dresden
Operation Meeting house next?
The ship at the far left at 5:35 appears to be the WILHELM GUSTLOFF, which was later sunk with the loss of an estimated 9,000 lives (still considered the worst maritime loss of life in history).
@callsigndd9ls897
Жыл бұрын
Yes, either "Wilhelm Gustloff" or "Robert Ley". There were 2 identical sister ships. Wilhelm Gustloff was sunk in the Baltic Sea, more than 9,000 people died. Robert Ley burned in a bomb raid in Hamburg 2 months before the end of the war.
Sometimes it is tempting to think that the more you know human beings and what they are capable of doing against eachother , the more you love the animals!!
Karma is a bitch
Only someone who has no concept of war could say bombing had no effect.
When you're a hammer, everything looks like a nail.
Wow . I heard of Dresden fire bombing, but not Hamburg
How about dresden?
On the subject of fire bombing, perhaps the Fire Bombing of Tokyo?
Do a korean war. There are few docu aboit korean war
I did my Senior Thesis on this in college. It doesn't get looked at near as much as the Dresden Firebombings. The RAF figured out how to create firestorms. Theres an excellent book on it. I forget who wrote it now.
@ronjon7942
Жыл бұрын
Not quite, the firestorm was an uncommon coincidence between the incendiaries and the weather, and only happened two or three times. The Allies would have liked to create firestorms on command, but such was not the case. Other cities had far more incendiaries dropped on them than Hamburg had.
@Bj-yf3im
Жыл бұрын
@@ronjon7942 It also depended on how closely built the houses were. Dresden and Hamburg had houses built tightly together, but Berlin and Cologne had broader streets
@Wilhelm322
10 ай бұрын
@@ronjon7942 First of all it happened a lot more times than two or three, for instance there were Major Firestorms in Hamburg, Dresden, Würzburg, Pforzheim, Kassel, Bremen, Lübeck, Nürnberg and Darmstadt as well as smaller scale Firestorms in Düren, Kaiserslautern, Königsberg, Stettin, Breslau and Augsburg. Second: The Allies deliberately created Firestorm by first dropping a wave of explosive Bombs which blew up Windows, Doors and Roofs of Houses and then dropped a second wave of Incendiary Bombs and in some cases White Phosphorus and Napalm which created many small fires, those Fires then coalesced and grouped into a massive Storm which was highly destructive and could have winds so strong it would suck people back into the Burning Houses they were trying to escape from. Lastly Firestorms were anything but uncommon in German Cities in WW2, many German Cities had significant portions of Timber or Half Timber Houses which were perfect fuel for the Fires.
No doubt those people tasted the hell on earth.
I suggest operation meetinghouse(fire bombing of tokyo)