Open world traversal DOESN'T suck (except when it does)

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If it ain't challenging, what's the point?
Part 1: • Open world traversal S...
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Script, VO, animations, editing:
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Compositing, VFX, additional editing:
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Thanks to Luker for reading some lines:
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Death Stranding intro footage from Sourcespy:
• Death Stranding - Full...
0:00 - Intro
1:01 - Red Dead Redemption 2
2:55 - Meandering around in the intro
4:05 - DS3 and Elden Ring
7:34 - Death Stranding
17:27 - Categorizing it all
18:33 - Satisfactory
19:59 - A Short Hike
21:34 - Outer Wilds
28:55 - secret ending (secret)

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  • @DolphLundgrensDolphinDungeon
    @DolphLundgrensDolphinDungeon10 ай бұрын

    My fart literally just smelt like perfume. Not sure if that's because I was watching your video at the time

  • @drgonzo123

    @drgonzo123

    8 ай бұрын

    Stop eating perfume

  • @therocket3953

    @therocket3953

    7 ай бұрын

    thats such a cool compliment. im going to use that in the future

  • @alex.g7317

    @alex.g7317

    6 ай бұрын

    @@drgonzo123*drinking

  • @chebryan

    @chebryan

    4 ай бұрын

    @@alex.g7317he means eating the bottle too

  • @alex.g7317

    @alex.g7317

    4 ай бұрын

    @@chebryan ah, makes sense

  • @Me_Myself_Maly
    @Me_Myself_Maly8 ай бұрын

    So what you’re saying is….Death Stranding is the Dark Souls of walking games

  • @camwing

    @camwing

    8 ай бұрын

    I hate that I can't refute this

  • @jimman-beard2167

    @jimman-beard2167

    Ай бұрын

    No because Dark Souls is a Masterpiece wining awards and setting game trends... How many "souls like games" are there? ever heard of a "Death Stranding like?" I know I haven't... and the Game is polarizing at best... Sure some people struggle to play the hard Souls Like experience and shy away from a challenge... but its undeniable the impact Dark Souls had... Death Stranding was Free on Epic Game Store and still its not worth your time!!! It didn't create any cultural impact that is felt in the gaming industry and is just a BAD GAME.. If it was not made by Hideo Kojima then I think NOBODY would care about this game.... its riding off that alone. so I kind of find it offensive you comparing Death Stranding to Dark Souls.. A great Game to what you find in those $5 bins at Walmart that basically nobody wants.

  • @Me_Myself_Maly

    @Me_Myself_Maly

    Ай бұрын

    @@jimman-beard2167 dog, it’s a joke😂

  • @jimman-beard2167

    @jimman-beard2167

    Ай бұрын

    @@Me_Myself_Maly I know just Dark Souls doesn't deserve that kind of treatment...LMAO

  • @Me_Myself_Maly

    @Me_Myself_Maly

    Ай бұрын

    @@jimman-beard2167 I’m sure Dark Souls isn’t gonna be offended by someone making a very common comparison joke about it lmao

  • @jamesdizon5133
    @jamesdizon513310 ай бұрын

    this is a cinematic masterpiece 11/10

  • @creppercupcake

    @creppercupcake

    6 ай бұрын

    Yessssss

  • @ryanlyman4011
    @ryanlyman401110 ай бұрын

    That is the most organized factory I have ever seen in Satisfactory.

  • @camwing

    @camwing

    10 ай бұрын

    I have a problem

  • @dominkbarnett9837

    @dominkbarnett9837

    2 ай бұрын

    I have 1 160 hour save file its not pretty

  • @Tabellarius_ae
    @Tabellarius_ae10 ай бұрын

    The paper animations look great!

  • @camwing

    @camwing

    10 ай бұрын

    Glad you like em! They're one of the main reasons this video took so long to come out, but we finally settled on a good system by the end of it. I expect they'll be in more videos.

  • @pennryan970

    @pennryan970

    Ай бұрын

    They are so moce

  • @zchris13
    @zchris139 ай бұрын

    As an avid player of Kerbal Space Program and a certified space geek, I had a VERY different experience with the movement mechanics of Outer Wilds from most people. One of the very first things I did was go get the Hotshot achievement (I had no spoilers going in, I just saw the object and went and touched it). Thanks for listening, I just felt the need to share.

  • @vincelupo8419

    @vincelupo8419

    2 ай бұрын

    You would like Trailmakers and also Spaceship Engineers I suspect.

  • @YMandarin

    @YMandarin

    2 ай бұрын

    docking control intensified no Lown Lazy method for you sir

  • @effanmaurice8415
    @effanmaurice84159 ай бұрын

    This entire video was a psyop to talk about outer wilds and I love it

  • @camwing

    @camwing

    9 ай бұрын

    You've seen through my plan

  • @amakrotol7613
    @amakrotol76134 ай бұрын

    The fake out vpn sponsor bit was *chef's kiss*

  • @AchanCham_
    @AchanCham_10 ай бұрын

    This was an incredible video to watch. Your notebook paper animations are stylish and engaging and your video structure and points were well thought out and entertaining while still being informative. Thank you for your hard work and for sharing this video with us.

  • @camwing

    @camwing

    10 ай бұрын

    Thanks, that means a lot!! I always hope that the algorithm picks up our videos, but even if that doesn't happen, at least I can say I made something I'm proud of.

  • @FleyDragon
    @FleyDragon2 ай бұрын

    Walking is actually my favorite part of Death Stranding.

  • @tekbox7909

    @tekbox7909

    Ай бұрын

    I know right? It's so fun to just walk somewhere though unlocking and building alternatives is just as satisfying. Cause once you walked a path a few times it gets old and then you wanna go faster and find new places

  • @hue.main1

    @hue.main1

    19 күн бұрын

    I like getting to soak up a games world, it’s why I like museums, parks, hikes, etc. i get to take my time and hurry by if I feel like it.

  • @_synt3rax_437

    @_synt3rax_437

    10 күн бұрын

    Wouldnt you rather take your Keys and go on a Walk for real?

  • @hue.main1

    @hue.main1

    10 күн бұрын

    @@_synt3rax_437 our world isn’t like other games though, that’s the point. I WISH I could physically go out and meander through a new discovered planet like in no man’s sky

  • @DragonOfTheMortalKombat

    @DragonOfTheMortalKombat

    4 күн бұрын

    @@_synt3rax_437 no, you want to suck up all the pollution, pests and bad weather, go ahead. I'd rather be running or cycling anyways.

  • @ethansimpson1032
    @ethansimpson103210 ай бұрын

    your narration is so impressive, this is some ridiculously high production value for such a small channel and i’m praying you guys get the attention. you deserve

  • @Kayfear

    @Kayfear

    7 ай бұрын

    Seriously, top class

  • @Coecoo

    @Coecoo

    26 күн бұрын

    Definitely above average but the basis of his argument for the game being fun is "It tortures you in several different ways for at least 20 hours straight but after that you can do stuff to make the torture slightly less awful" comes off as the literal definition of stockholm syndrome.

  • @haris5040
    @haris504010 ай бұрын

    Amazing video. I loved death stranding the more I played it and you showed off something i couldnt quite put into words. Excited to see what you do next.

  • @notcmiles

    @notcmiles

    10 ай бұрын

    same

  • @NerdSpartanPerson
    @NerdSpartanPerson10 ай бұрын

    Love seeing Outer Wilds get more of the love that it deserves

  • @dominkbarnett9837

    @dominkbarnett9837

    2 ай бұрын

    Agreed

  • @Towcj

    @Towcj

    2 ай бұрын

    Barely hyped up or covered, however I still played it and enjoyed it, which was surprising since I had to stop myself from looking at any videos of it, because they were literally just playthroughs

  • @iainengland8058

    @iainengland8058

    2 ай бұрын

    Man I wish I could get into that game but I’ve probably listened to the soundtrack 1000 times

  • @tweed.k
    @tweed.k4 ай бұрын

    16:00 something triggered in my brain to press the 5sec skip button 30 times as always as if it was a trauma reaction.... but then you went a completly different route lmao

  • @Zenith07
    @Zenith078 ай бұрын

    3:16 i like the detail of the crowd cheering outside when he “Finally” talks about Death Stranding 😂

  • @Japuckle
    @Japuckle8 ай бұрын

    15:54 i had my skipping-finger ready cause you that really sounded like it was about to be a [redacted]VPN sponsorship. You got me lol

  • @lonick1692
    @lonick169210 ай бұрын

    All the effort paid off, this turned out great!

  • @somedots
    @somedots10 ай бұрын

    Really enjoyed your tone, speed and editing. Subbed

  • @Heliyum
    @Heliyum10 ай бұрын

    “When did all of you get here?” It’s only just about to hit 30k, buddy. You got a storm coming.

  • @mretidk6715

    @mretidk6715

    2 ай бұрын

    There is a storm that is approaching…

  • @nullpoint3346

    @nullpoint3346

    2 ай бұрын

    It's me, I am the storm.

  • @ethanfreeman1106
    @ethanfreeman110610 ай бұрын

    when you said "the journey is the destination," it reminded me of, well, Journey, a very prominent example of "any moment you spend with the game is the reward in itself," and i think all games should strive to be this. in fact, many games are already this without even trying to be. sometimes the appeal of the open world game that it sets the stage and then lets you play it however you want to, but i think it's interesting how an open world game doesn't automatically translate to a great experience, while many linear games manage to do this. that would be an interesting topic to talk about.

  • @jeffreystewart6786
    @jeffreystewart678610 ай бұрын

    Really *really* good video essay man. Well structured and thought out. Keep up the good work!

  • @CurtTheHero
    @CurtTheHero10 ай бұрын

    Production value going up chief 😁 I like the paper animation effect

  • @SparksOfGaming
    @SparksOfGaming10 ай бұрын

    Holy shit your channel is gonna boom soon. This is awesome

  • @domafychan
    @domafychan6 ай бұрын

    have an interaction hopefully youtube gets its shit together at some point and stops hiding videos this well produced in favour of 10 second shitposts

  • @Safewoood
    @Safewoood2 ай бұрын

    I think rdr2 deserves some credit for its horse riding controlls, they are so insanely much better at conveying riding an actual horse than anything else ive seen.

  • @rottensquid

    @rottensquid

    15 күн бұрын

    Still, riding a horse in the game is an activity, rather than a game in itself. It's hardly a challenge, aside from avoiding trees.

  • @caravaneerkhed
    @caravaneerkhed10 ай бұрын

    Bro you deserve 1millions subs your content is incredible, I hope you pop off!

  • @bebeusxl9842
    @bebeusxl98422 ай бұрын

    Bro your channel is severely underrated. I can't express how much I like your narration and editing style, it's unreal you only have 70k subs

  • @chereamii
    @chereamii10 ай бұрын

    Being annoyed at open world games is a strong indicator of strand-like tendencies and RDR2-induced frontal lobe shrinkage. Take your meds, camlord.

  • @CharliMorganMusic
    @CharliMorganMusic2 ай бұрын

    16:10 - you got me. Oh my god the suspense. Brilliant. I love it.

  • @HorridOnlineTroll
    @HorridOnlineTroll5 күн бұрын

    I dunno bro all I know about death stranding is it gets incrementally easier the more you stick with it, starting with the walking legs, a fkn bike, building roads, getting a fkn truck and finally, finally, the glorious zip lines. GOATed game. 10/10

  • @renaigh
    @renaigh2 ай бұрын

    I remember playing Death Stranding and spending time just building roads and recharge stations.

  • @TheAstralBlade
    @TheAstralBlade10 ай бұрын

    Its always fascinating to see how different people react to different games like these - how some are able to get that intrinsic click, how some have no possible way to connect with a piece, ect.. Fundamentally, I can understand the message behind the "endure frustration and then triumph over it" sort of deal, but those types of games almost never seem to click with me. The large amount of time spent failing and in frustration ruins any amount of fun, and even when I can finally get past something, it rarely ever has that satisfaction everyone seems to talk about getting after triumph. (Maybe it's a neurodivergent thing, who knows). I know most of these types of games could never be for me, but its fascinating to see the differences between not only the games themselves, but the players too :] (It's been pretty interesting playing Hollow Knight with this issue actually - I love the world, style, and exploration; but I'm not very good at the battles without a lot of help/upgrades, so the battles can very quickly get tedious)

  • @camwing

    @camwing

    10 ай бұрын

    This video originally started off as "Here are some open world games with fun traversal mechanics," but the thesis completely changed when my brother and I both played Outer Wilds. I almost immediately fell in love, but the attitude of "the fun is out there, you just gotta find it" ended up being way too much of a pain for him, and he never finished it. At first I wanted to try and convince him to give it another chance, but our brains are wired differently. It's not realistic to try and make something click with somebody, you just gotta figure out what works for you.

  • @ms.dr3amer

    @ms.dr3amer

    6 ай бұрын

    I feel the same way honestly. For me games are supposed to be fun, because my life is already full of struggles that I need to overcome. So for me if a game is frustrating, it has lost me. That's not to say I don't like a good challenge, but suffering for the sake of suffering and grinding in a game is not something I enjoy after a long day of grinding tasks during work/ school. At least in real life it has some benefits, while in the virtual world all you get is the feeling and maybe some ingame items. Games aren't supposed to be a second job, at least that's the way I feel about it. But of course, everyone enjoys different experiences.

  • @turbotoke8882

    @turbotoke8882

    4 ай бұрын

    Hope you finished hollow knight, i hated that game until i beat "The Mantis Lords" then it just clicked for me and i kept on playing, that was 3 years ago, i have since played the game at least 10 times, and can confidently say that it is my favourite game. Its just weird that for some people, the game already clicks within the first 10 minutes, some with the first boss, and some give up on it before reaching any major upgrades. "the click" is such a fascinating thing in video games, it happens with different games, in different stages of those games, for all different people. It has happened multiple times, one i vividly remember (Other than Hollow Knight of course) was sekiro, that game for me was almost the same story as hollow knight, i hated the game, thought it was bullshit, and then i beat Genichiro without being hit once, and oh my god that feeling was beyond any form of satisfaction i have ever gotten from any other form of media, and now its my favourite souls-like. I really hope you kept on playing hollow knight, because even if you stopped playing within the first 3 hours, i get it, i did the same thing, it was actually my third attempt where i followed through until it clicked, but the game really only gets better as you go along, and i can recommend it to anyone. So if you stopped playing, i get it, but i would hope that you would try again, and even if youre not having fun, just push through until it "clicks"

  • @TheAstralBlade

    @TheAstralBlade

    4 ай бұрын

    @@turbotoke8882 got over 50 hours in and pretty much end-game, able to fight the end boss or go for the harder endings, with only a few remaining bosses such as collector and mantis traitor and such. It's been left in that state for months though, save for the few times I tried to do the flower quest or fight the collector and failed - I'm hoping that I can manage to finish it some day, but I dunno when that will be. Also wanted to mention that, despite how I still ended up loving hollow knight after playing and watching others play, my own fear definently took some of the fun away from me. I'm always a super skittish and careful player in games, so I end up exploring everything possible before having to continue a story and fighting a boss. It's cool that hollow knight can allow for this, but I found myself exploring everything, getting over-leveled, and breezing past a handful of bosses without much satisfaction for it, then immidiently getting stuck on harder bosses after. It happens in a lot of games for me, but hollow knight really showed me how this sorta playstyle can be a big detriment. "Players will maximize the fun out of a game," as so many say. But regardless of my own issues, the game has definently let me broaded my gaming horizons quite a lot! I've taken a bit more risks in games, doing more action ones and taking my time. Kinda helps that they're more linear and therefore I'm forced to defeat the boss before moving on, but y'know. Would very much recomend The Messenger :]

  • @turbotoke8882

    @turbotoke8882

    4 ай бұрын

    @@TheAstralBlade Oh thats awesome man, you cant really get "overleveled" in hollow knight, because all of the pale ore and mask shards are hidden in a way that you cant get them all without having a specific ability, like the double jump or wall jump.

  • @antoinelevaine1106
    @antoinelevaine11067 ай бұрын

    Incredibly compelling writing dude! Your channel’s by far my favorite youtube discovery of the last few months!

  • @Evanz111
    @Evanz1118 ай бұрын

    Death stranding Death stranding Death stranding …very good video. Came here from your Spiderman 2 one! Love the generally relaxed feel of your videos, without them being dragged out or overly long!

  • @drgonzo123
    @drgonzo1238 ай бұрын

    First of all, I’m hooked. You make great videos and I just discovered them, so thanks to KZread for finally showing my new content. Second, I didn’t know Arthur could be startled by a train! The game that keeps on giving. Finally, your art and editing are perfect. The jazz drum track at the halfway mark, under your traversal in Death Stranding fits so well, I don’t even know what to say. Great job man! I am now a fan and subscriber.

  • @executivetoad
    @executivetoad10 ай бұрын

    this guy loves games. the editing is so cool!!! great video and writing and animations, lads! :)

  • @JimmyNoStar
    @JimmyNoStar4 ай бұрын

    I just picked up on the satisfactory music half through he video. Amazing

  • @MrHumbuck
    @MrHumbuck7 ай бұрын

    Brilliant video! Death stranding sounds fascinating, but I've nowhere near enough time/energy for that kind of thing anymore. Your description of it actually kinda reminds me of my experience reading Jules Verne’s 20,000 (or however many) leagues under the sea as a teenager. There were parts where I shared the main character’s feelings of boredom and being trapped, and when I got to the end I felt the relief of finally climbing out of the submarine and filling my lungs with fresh air. It wasn’t always a _fun_ read, but in the end I loved that I got to experience the same feelings as the characters.

  • @youngkhronic2243
    @youngkhronic22432 ай бұрын

    Great video, really shocked this doesn’t have more views. I love your content and art style, you definitely deserve more attention

  • @collinwinget8567
    @collinwinget856710 ай бұрын

    It's crazy that you talk about open world without ever mentioning RDR2

  • @camwing

    @camwing

    10 ай бұрын

    I'm a bad youtuber

  • @truluverful
    @truluverful6 ай бұрын

    KZreads algorith is the worst, i've been dying for your sort of content for ages but i just get recommended garbage. Hope you can keep making amazing videos

  • @camwing

    @camwing

    6 ай бұрын

    Some of my videos blow up, and some of them completely fly under the radar. It's a bit of a mystery to me at this point, but I'm glad people still appreciate this video, because it's definitely one of my favorites.

  • @truluverful

    @truluverful

    6 ай бұрын

    ​@@camwing Yeah that's fuckin rough. Half of my favourite channels just stopped getting suggested to me entirely, But you're building a backlog of some big dog views videos so soon you'll get that consistency.

  • @rileymoore7025
    @rileymoore7025Ай бұрын

    "Every game should have Open-World" "Here" *Gives open-world game* "Where's the fast travel?" "Why do you need it? Didn't you ask for an Open-World? You got an Open-World, now USE all of the Open-World!"

  • @ybouzl2191
    @ybouzl219110 ай бұрын

    Before you made the post, i had no clue that this exited. Awesome!

  • @Sebboebbo
    @Sebboebbo10 ай бұрын

    Da king is back baby he neva miss

  • @BongoBybs
    @BongoBybs10 ай бұрын

    I like this video alot, nice job cam we're proud. I went in expecting the video would be about Death Stranding but its more so about videogame traversal... Which I guess you didn't explicitly state in the title that it was ABOUT DS, but the intro kind had me thinking thats how the video would... package itself as. I thought it would constantly relate back to DS but it served more as another example in the list of games that related to the REAL theme of the video: videogame traversal. However, you made very good points about every game you talked about that I found myself nodding my head to clapping my hands and feet to like those crash cymbal monkey toys TLDR: I love the video and agree with or was intruiged by all the points you made HOWEVER your focus on death stranding in the beginning didn't really lend itself to be as important as what your REAL argument was.

  • @77bmw
    @77bmwКүн бұрын

    My summer has you earn the little bit of fun. It only tells you to build the car and it doesnt teach you to build go figure out and the car is disassembled to the frame and the engine is disassembled to the block some parts are missing or are about to break and you start with 3000 marks and a tractor and motorbike and you need to tune the car properly so it does blow up

  • @JerryCan101
    @JerryCan10110 ай бұрын

    I played outer wilds and its true, you can go to the end if you already know how to. but it would be very short if it was told to you. good video. 👍

  • @calebwheeler5781
    @calebwheeler578110 ай бұрын

    Awesome intro. It was really neat.

  • @frag2
    @frag25 ай бұрын

    I LOVE THESE GAMES!

  • @buttonasas
    @buttonasas2 ай бұрын

    18:07 the Satisfaction must grow.

  • @CubeDeveloper_Games
    @CubeDeveloper_Games8 ай бұрын

    wait, you ONLY have 30'000 subscribers?? I cannot believe the amount of work you put into this video, aswell as the dope animation bits which must have taken quite a while, great stuff I'm subscribing and going on a binge while coding c:

  • @TylerNinjaFortniteBlevins
    @TylerNinjaFortniteBlevins10 ай бұрын

    I'm glad that he points out that Outer Wilds won't be for everyone. I played that game for several hours and the entire time I was incredibly bored. Even after looking up a guide and playing with that for a little bit, everything felt like a slog to get to and through. I want to enjoy Outer Wilds, especially because I love Subnautica and Terraria and many other games that are super exploration-heavy, but Outer Wilds just isn't it for me. I know it's quality, but I think my taste in games just isn't what Outer Wilds has to offer me.

  • @camwing

    @camwing

    10 ай бұрын

    My brother does a lot of editing for these videos, so we both played Outer Wilds to prep for it, and I was amazed at how very different our experiences were. I'm obviously a big fan, but it really does require a specific type of player to connect with this game in the way you probably see in most reviews. Reviewing art is hard, because whether or not it achieves what it was trying to accomplish is only one half of the equation, the other half being whether or not it clicks with the person consuming it, and that's obviously completely subjective.

  • @DavidJCO

    @DavidJCO

    10 ай бұрын

    I completely understand your point of view. I loved playing Outer Wilds, specially at the beginning. But i actually got bored by the end because to end the game you have to do things in a specific order and it just became frustrating the try and error repetition. I still enjoyed the game and loved the ending, it was totally worthy, specially because i did not know anything about the game or the story. But I also can see why people dislike the game. I t is not for everyone. And that is fine.

  • @LukeFields996
    @LukeFields99612 күн бұрын

    Man I will never forget how I got to the mountains fully expecting Death Stranding to lose me right there. Instead, I slowly but surely chugged through to create a web of zip lines and god did it feel good to complete a buttload of deliveries without breaking a sweat

  • @towshiferabbi8009
    @towshiferabbi80098 ай бұрын

    I love the background music on this one.

  • @callmeturg1590
    @callmeturg159014 күн бұрын

    Sulotion. Grabble Gun. Add a grablegun to any game to make the traversing more fun

  • @jam-the-hologram
    @jam-the-hologram10 ай бұрын

    I went to subscribe and found I was already subscribed. Great video!

  • @battlnerd2128
    @battlnerd21282 ай бұрын

    Kojima made Death Stranding because people were complaining about his other games being "delivery guy simulators". so he made a delivery guy simulator.

  • @Cyirxmachina
    @Cyirxmachina9 ай бұрын

    The writing in this video is beyond brilliant.

  • @camwing

    @camwing

    9 ай бұрын

    this comment made my day 🥹

  • @ttrreebboorr22000066
    @ttrreebboorr2200006629 күн бұрын

    Two things: 1. I think I am going to try desth stranding at some point 2. Outer Wilds (and for that matter, the dlc as well) is one of the best games ever made and I wish I could experience it all over again. The sheer wonder and excitement in exploring that gem has stuck to me and whenever I am reminded of it, a warm, wonderful but bittersweet feeling overcomes me. Simply a masterpiece. (Bittersweet because it's impossible for me to forget enough of it to get that original feeling back) Btw: Every planet in that game is actually simulated. Nothing is on rails and every object affects every other object through gravity. Simply crazy. Also: The DLC is terrifying af, but also a beautiful story and the gameplay is different enough to be interesting while still taking place in the same world and the same general loop.

  • @dale2641
    @dale2641Ай бұрын

    Great video, great observations. Really glad you brought up Satisfactory, I never expected what is ostensibly a "factory building game" to have such amazing movement. Slide jumping, blade runners, jet packs, and zip lining-ZIP LINING IS SO GOOD. (I hear the vehicles don't even completely suck now!) For me, Satisfactory is the best "exploration game" I've ever played.

  • @Katkaddajjen
    @Katkaddajjen8 ай бұрын

    This was eyeopening. Thanks Camwig.

  • @julikaiba
    @julikaiba2 ай бұрын

    I would put death stranding in that 4th category as well tbh

  • @DavidHughey-xu2ce
    @DavidHughey-xu2ceАй бұрын

    That intro! *chefs kiss* lmfaooo

  • @Lodestone8
    @Lodestone82 ай бұрын

    Have you ever played the Pathless? Admittedly the movement system can eventually wear thin and no map drives me up the wall for such a large world, but it's the king of decently interesting world, but we're here for the zooming around it

  • @EliasThundertempest
    @EliasThundertempest10 ай бұрын

    My one real big gripe with how Death Stranding uses frustration in its design is that while yes, throughout the experience the game's main mechanic becomes less frustrating, it never (for me at least) becomes any more fun, none of the upgrades and new structures are really fun to me, the weapons are a bit creative and enjoyable but the game actively punishes you for killing or just engaging in combat at all, mostly due to how bare-bones and, again, frustrating it is and I know the game is actively trying to discourage combat, but nothing else is even close to being fun. I'd argue the game is never fun. To me it honestly feel like someone keeping you in a windowless tiny room and feeding you once a month, only to then add a poster of the beach and two bland, tasteless meals a day; I mean that's better, sure, I still wouldn't want that ever.

  • @camwing

    @camwing

    10 ай бұрын

    It didn't click with me until I had built out the first stretch of highway, at that point the package delivery loop almost became addictive. But man, this is the kind of game where it'll either click with you, or it won't. I've given up on trying to convince anybody to like something, because people's brains just work too differently. I gotta give you kudos for sticking with it for as long as you did though, Death Stranding is all too easy to give up on.

  • @ultimaxkom8728

    @ultimaxkom8728

    Ай бұрын

    You read the tin can, knows it's walking sim, but you still search for your fun in there? _"Don't like it don't play it"_ is such a clichéd and weak counter that I'd mentally roll my eyes every time it's invoked. But not this time. You've brought this upon yourself.

  • @EliasThundertempest

    @EliasThundertempest

    Ай бұрын

    @@ultimaxkom8728 I'd argue there's plenty to be found in lengthening your horizons and try stuff that seems interesting even if not within what you know for sure you would like. Stories of games/movies that resonate with a person while being nothing they usually stick to are a dime a dozen. I tried the game and stuck with it to the end because I was curious about it and I am (generally) a fan of its author, didn't look appealing to me at all at first glance beside that but I'd still argue that is no valid reasons to deny it a chance. Plenty of games I like can be described as "walking Sim" or just experimental or weird, I don't think the game's genre is to blame for my disappointment, I don't think the game's genre is to blame for my personal lack of enjoyment in it. "Don't like it, don't play it" only ensures no external opinions, critique and influence could ever reach a genre many clearly enjoy and help it grow or evolve. Again, I get defending one's opinion about what one believes has worth, (I don't quite get getting defensive about it though), but I think you mischaracterized the source of my criticism.

  • @islanddryad

    @islanddryad

    Ай бұрын

    @@ultimaxkom8728 fam chill. People are allowed to try things they know they’re going to hate. I knew I wasn’t going to like DS, I bought it anyway because I like Kojima as a artist and director. I gave up half way through because just as I predicted I got frustrated and gave up to go play other games I knew I’d enjoy. That doesn’t mean my or OPs criticisms are dumb or invalid it just means I tried something and it didn’t work out. God forbid people try things… 🙄

  • @ultimaxkom8728

    @ultimaxkom8728

    Ай бұрын

    You're right, but don't equalize yourself with the OP. They _"argue the game is never fun"_ and used a prisoner analogy, you didn't. You're not the same.

  • @TheMelMan
    @TheMelMan7 ай бұрын

    Really enjoying your videos man 👌🏾

  • @desertdweller9003
    @desertdweller9003Ай бұрын

    I'm glad my youtube auto played this video while I was afk before I could stop it, it was great! Always love finding another person deep into the Outer Wilds camp.

  • @francjirachi
    @francjirachi2 ай бұрын

    I have to say that the open world of elden ring brings a problem of replayability (and mostly all open world games tbh but with elden ring it stings since I want to replay it). In the souls games, I replay often because I want to use other weapons and builds, or just go through the challenge again for fun, and I have stuff to do all the game, but in elden ring, you just go from point a to point b with your horse to get the weapons and materials you need and then just go to the bosses, there is little incentive to fight whatever is in the middle of the road if you don't want to get an item that is there (and sometimes you can just ignore the enemies and get the item anyways like with the golden seeds or stones to upgrade weapons) so you are left with boring movement and boring world. Also loved the outer wilds section of the video, that game does get how to make the fact that you can't replay it feel worth it

  • @Yuki-rh1ie
    @Yuki-rh1ie7 ай бұрын

    outer wilds does have a vr mod and it's magical!

  • @neonte13
    @neonte139 ай бұрын

    Man, Satisfactory... I want to build organized factories so bad, but I always end up slapping together spaghetti to unlock everything. "No, it's fine. I'll just get plastics unlocked, THEN, I'll clean this mess up...... I mean, it's bad, but once I have aluminum, I can really clean it up good. I'll do it then........... Okay, so, that's the particle accelerator. Everything's unlocked and... Oh... I'm done... I guess I could start a new save..... No, no, this time, I'm gonna do it right, juuuust as soon as I've got all the coal stuff up and running. That said, I always appreciated the movement mechanics. I was really sad to see the zipline speed nerfed, though. I know why they had to do it, and they made up for it in other ways, but it was soooo fun, before!

  • @camwing

    @camwing

    9 ай бұрын

    Satisfactory is a problem for me, I'll play for most of the day if nobody stops me. It's so ridiculously fun

  • @alfred0231
    @alfred02317 ай бұрын

    I think Minecraft does a good job with traversal. Walking is slow, but generally there's going to be a block worth mining in a 20 second walking radius. Running is faster, but burns through hunger. Add jumping for more speed and visual flair, but eat through even more food. Further progression requires further distances. Maybe it's time to upgrade to a more nourishing food before starting a long trip or end up eating every minute of the trip. The todo list quietly expands. Boats are fast, but only on water and ice. Any body of water can become an expediated travel opportunity. And there are items and structures that only spawn near or around water, slipping the player into a new domain of content. At the pinnacle of travel: the elytra. Elytras are OP. High speed flight achieved with no infrastructure. But to unlock their full potential players need to: 1) Defeat the Ender Dragon 2) Explore the End to find one 3) Obtain stockpiles of fireworks 4) Get Unbreaking III and Mending enchantments 5) Have a reliable method of getting XP. And then there's infrastructure. Run'n'jumping speeds can be increased with short ceilings. Minecarts are AFK and faster than running, but require precious resources. Ice paths for boats are very fast, but at the cost of sometimes 1000s of ice. All of these can be sped up by 8x when using the Nether to travel. It requires more planning, resources, and exposure to danger, but a player in Minecraft end game can travel 100x faster across the world than a fresh player. All of this also ties into encouraging something Minecraft excels at: community and information sharing. New players don't stumble upon building ice boat highways in the Nether. Many players have tested and measured many parts of the game and then share what they've learned or invented. These improvements are gated by game knowledge and time spent on that world, not skill points in a perk tree. *PS the list could be a lot longer.

  • @hibilbo4755

    @hibilbo4755

    7 ай бұрын

    I've never even thought of how many movement mechanics Minecraft has but you're so right. There's also ender pearls being significantly faster than running but costing health Chorus fruit being able to teleport you through walls but it's random Bubble elevators and block elevators being static fixtures but letting you go up and down very fast Water bucket and boat clutches completely negating fall damage Slime block launchers for something completely impractical but fun Flying machines having infinite AFK traversal potential but being only able to go in one direction at a time and unintuitive and slow to set up TNT cannons being able to launch you VERY far but you'll probably die doing it Pearl stasis chambers being able to teleport you across the whole map instantly but requiring multiplayer (or some timing mechanism) and for the stasis chamber to be loaded in Swimming... Which is just swimming Going prone on land to fit in smaller gaps but making you slower The various mounts that aren't horses Riptide tridents letting you go super fast in water and giving you a more dangerous type of flight when it rains And then of course everything that increases your speed or gives you a status effect (depth strider, soul speed, dolphins, speed potions, levitation, and slow falling) There's really a lot for a game that's not really all too concerned with movement on the surface

  • @ClickToPreview
    @ClickToPreview6 ай бұрын

    The difference between a linear game like Dark Souls et al and an open world game w/non-linear content is when you die in a linear game (regardless of how brutally difficult the combat gameplay is), you are FORCED to try, die, try again, rinse, repeat, over and over, until you finally beat the game (traversal is an after thought because the world is SO DENSE with combat encounters and forward movement -- the whole damn point). With a good open world (where traversal may still seem mundane, but the world is still dense with "stuff" to do), you can AT LEAST say "F that" I'm doing something COMPLETELY different OVER HERE that ISN'T just combat, like helping a farmer find his daughter who ran off with the local bard.

  • @charlessmith1896
    @charlessmith1896Ай бұрын

    I have played plenty of Outer Wilds and love it dearly. I had never considered that you could send the tutorial little scout upwards with the geyser that's so cool!

  • @DUKEzors
    @DUKEzors10 ай бұрын

    The economy joke is why more people should subscribe to this channel.

  • @logank444
    @logank444Ай бұрын

    The building of zip lines through mountains making a whole zip line highway, so awesome

  • @MrChopstsicks
    @MrChopstsicksАй бұрын

    I turned that walk speed to 1. So I could walk even slower. It’s something magical to walk, stop, look at the mountain, look at my map and figure out another route. Then repeat

  • @themeeka
    @themeeka10 ай бұрын

    I was straight up addicted to satisfactory for a month and outer wilds is my favorite game. It was a nice surprise seeing them. I was also surprised when I finished the video and it didn't have more views, good video man

  • @jonathanlochridge9462
    @jonathanlochridge94628 ай бұрын

    I haven't played outer wilds yet, but it's description kind of reminds me of another game with a similar category but 2d and a lot lower budget called Reventure. In that one the entire world isn't too big, but it has a lot of different paths you can take. It is built on the bones of a platformer. But is really about exploring to get little blurbs of text or short animations or a character skin. And it has like hundreds of endings, most of which are technically about 2-3 minutes away from the start. But you pick up objects that give you new movement/attack options, but each one has weight, so your basic jump gets shorter the more stuff you carry. And practically everything cross-interacts. It was also very cheap but a lot of fun. The game-play you showed of outer wilds looked even more fun though.

  • @keeb__
    @keeb__2 ай бұрын

    disco elysium fits great into "The journey is the destination" type of game. Its truly incredible.

  • @ch3burashka
    @ch3burashkaАй бұрын

    I played it week one-ish, and the whole "people connecting" Kojimaism hit hard when I dumped a bunch of resources into a section of road, going back for more resources, and then seeing that everyone else built it for me.

  • @IAmQb
    @IAmQb5 ай бұрын

    Great video. I bought Outer Wilds just now, guess that'll be my next weekend or two.

  • @wyatt6022
    @wyatt602210 ай бұрын

    is that a 3d model of the drawn looking guy of you

  • @camwing

    @camwing

    10 ай бұрын

    It is! The animation is a hybrid of 3D and 2D. Might be worth making a behind the scenes video, it was a pretty fun effect to put together.

  • @xXx2tired2thinkxXx
    @xXx2tired2thinkxXx10 ай бұрын

    I love this video so much I turned vinegar off so you could get ad revenue

  • @GREG_WHEREISTHEMAYO
    @GREG_WHEREISTHEMAYO10 ай бұрын

    Awesome video, I really want to play outer wilds now

  • @GREG_WHEREISTHEMAYO

    @GREG_WHEREISTHEMAYO

    10 ай бұрын

    Replay it* I’ve played it before

  • @burntwhal3
    @burntwhal317 күн бұрын

    That sandwich kiss lol

  • @2Galxy
    @2Galxy2 ай бұрын

    OUTER WILDS REFERENCE! 10/10 VIDEO Edit: bro everything you said about Outer Wilds is the same with me 😭 I didn’t beat it yet, since it went off gamepass and I cancelled the xbox subscription, so I’m waiting for the right time to play the game and it’s dlc. It’s been like what, 3-4 years since I’ve played this game and still… I played it so much and I remember every memory I had with it. It’s truly unforgettable. I couldn’t ever put it into words and you did. Thank you. Now I don’t look like a crazy person when I try to explain why I like this game so much 😭

  • @clcsqueejy04
    @clcsqueejy047 ай бұрын

    I only saw one other person calling it out, but I wanted to let you know that I really appreciated the "walk home syndrome" pun. That's good shit.

  • @ivansleepy4722
    @ivansleepy47223 күн бұрын

    So, funny story with Death Stranding I got multiple orders in different locations and had a lot of packages. That's fine, tho. I got it. So, one of the orders that SHOULD get a lot off my back is on the wind farm. So I painstakingly go through the mountains and forest (I didn't pick the best route), get to the terminal, and the fucking order wasn't to deliver anything here, I just read it wrong. I went miles for NOTHING. I unironically live this game so much

  • @PersonALANty
    @PersonALANtyАй бұрын

    24:12 The amount of times I've done this in Space Engineers is immeasurable. To say there aren't many ways I haven't overshot my speed would be an understatement, I literally have crashed a soup can into mars after going so fast that an asteroid generated in a place that wouldn't have been possible to generate there had I been moving at the vanilla speed cap.

  • @YouTubestopsharingmyrealname
    @YouTubestopsharingmyrealnameАй бұрын

    Why did the sandwich kiss make me laugh so hard? 🤔 You're strange. 10/10

  • @xlojic4928
    @xlojic492810 ай бұрын

    This videos editing is amazing

  • @sirsandsack8092
    @sirsandsack8092Ай бұрын

    As a platinum hunter, I think the horse mechanic is for after finishing the game because you will have to do a lot of back tracking such as playing 70 story missions to gold.

  • @snopyhuggz
    @snopyhuggz2 ай бұрын

    The satisfactory music 🥹

  • @TiE23
    @TiE232 ай бұрын

    Outer Wilds is a “shut up and play this game, it’s amazing” game. Also, lol at the mention of how difficult it is to fly the ship. It’s true, it’s not easy. But when I had something like 150 hours in Kerbal Space Program under my belt I was doing crazy maneuvers within the first five minutes. :P

  • @lewis-mindscrambler987
    @lewis-mindscrambler9872 ай бұрын

    !!!animated host!!!

  • @resonantdock
    @resonantdock14 күн бұрын

    Death Stranding: Delivery man simulator

  • @lenorelestrange
    @lenorelestrangeАй бұрын

    Man, I learned so much about elden ring and outwilds in this death stranding video it's crazy. 😂

  • @agentseed
    @agentseed10 ай бұрын

    good video 👍

  • @blazicky

    @blazicky

    10 ай бұрын

    The video was released 1 minute ago bro you havent watched it yet

  • @agentseed

    @agentseed

    10 ай бұрын

    @@blazicky I had early access, see how my comment was posted an hour before yours?

  • @chereamii

    @chereamii

    10 ай бұрын

    Bcels seething over Achads

  • @kathrynjones2383
    @kathrynjones238313 күн бұрын

    It seems to me that Death Stranding is Infrastructure Building: the Game

  • @henrywarmoth1792
    @henrywarmoth17922 ай бұрын

    I literally snorted out loud laughing when you said, "Speaking of games you'll find in Rasputin videos." LOL 21:32

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