This is a beautiful project. Everything about it is what I wish manufacturers would copy, even a fraction.

@geometerfpv2804

9 ай бұрын

Uh...so only supporting plaintext and not having any navigation? What exactly is it that you want them to copy? This is clearly a hobby project. Manufacturers make consumer products.

@shadesoftime

9 ай бұрын

​@@geometerfpv2804yeah, hell no, i am not reading anything without antialiasing(which has been done by sony in the early 2000s)

@ligametis

9 ай бұрын

It is pretty simple device, it can't compare with off the shelf products.

@hugo-4715

9 ай бұрын

@@geometerfpv2804 Well it is a start. Adding navigation, or even a full-on online library of public domain books should be quite easy to add since hardware is quite powerful.

@tomprice5496

9 ай бұрын

From a marketing and data collection point of view, this product is a total disaster. Companies want you to be the product, not the ebook.

A _very_ laudable project - thank you, people! Just a note on file format: File formats were never an obstacle to e-reader interoperability - DRM is. Plain UTF-8 text should be displayable on this device, of course. But expanding it to HTML, markdown etc would be a laudable endeavour. Yes, plain text content is 95% or more of the value in a typical piece of literature (perhaps little less in textbooks and such), but adding features such as cross-references, index, TOC etc would not be too difficult. Perhaps even dictionary lookup, using some of free dictionary databases in a format that will enable enthusiast to contribute their own. EPUB is ISO standardized open format (ISO/IEC TS 30135) and no company controls it. It is less complex than it appears at the first glance, and supporting it, too, should not be a huge undertaking - there are tons of free EPUB reader apps for all possible platforms - perhaps one in marvelous open source tool "Calibre" could be used as a template for developing one for this device. Expanding the software driving this device in this way would remove _any_ advantage the proprietary ones have over it.

@alsomika

9 ай бұрын

Considering it's open source, it'd be cool to see someone add epub compatibility

@cupuacu4life13

9 ай бұрын

What the fuck is laudable

@Markyparky56

8 ай бұрын

I agree; you lose a lot of intentional formatting by going plain text. If epub is a platform independent standard it would make sense to support and promote it.

@EraYaN

8 ай бұрын

EPUB is probably the way to go, it supports images and such as well which are crucial for quite some nicely formatted EPUB and comic can be made to work with epub as well, although cbz and cbr are more common and less fussy.

@colbyboucher6391

8 ай бұрын

What I don't really understand (and this is only vaguely related) is why we don't have a standard for zipping up simple HTML / CSS / JS websites for offline use. It shouldn't be all that hard, and yet our options are either to have a bunch of loose files, or... Electron. EPUB is basically proof that it's possible but it gets a bad rap because publishers are lazy as hell and tend to make awful EPUBs even though, like you said, it's not a very complicated format. It's just a markdown language. It's 80% HTML.

So this looks like a very nice idea and pretty well thought through in its execution, especially for a homemade project. However, I think that if it *only* supports plaintext files, that'll probably be too big of a compromise for many readers. Even if they're willing to accept a lack of illustrations on the cover and inside the book (a big if), there are still readability considerations such as having page breaks before a new chapter, footnotes and end notes, larger font sizes and center alignment for headings, italics and bold text for emphasis, etc. Also, I suspect people these days expect some navigation features from an e-book reader, such as being able to jump to a specific chapter from the table of contents, or from one chapter to the next. I've personally used these extensively when looking up recipes in an EPUB-formatted cookbook.

@so-tz8lp

9 ай бұрын

you said it. my kindle has a bunch more features and capability and works out of the box. its just a tool that works better. the spirit of this project rocks though

@DerMBen

9 ай бұрын

Agreed. I really love the both the concept and execution of this project, but as it exists now, it's so limited. Luckily EPUB is an open standard and there's nothing stopping a future open source ereader from supporting it (maybe even a continuation of this one). The higher requirements might increase material costs, but I'm optimistic.

@DavidLindes

9 ай бұрын

@@DerMBen Agreed; here's hoping this is a successful project at least to the level of being a springboard for more open/libre designs and software in this space.

@maximkovalkov1334

9 ай бұрын

well i guess an alternative firmware could be developed that supports all those features! that’s supposed to be the advantage of having an open and accessible design :)

@ManuelSLaraBisch

9 ай бұрын

@@t0k4m4k7 In principle I agree, but it also depends on whether the platform's hardware would support more advanced layout processing without unacceptable tradeoffs in lag/battery life or not. I'd love to see some planning stage documentation of what features would be desired vs what could be achieved without more expensive hardware.

This looks like a great project! Those buttons are a little on the small side, though. I also agree that EPUB support would take it to the next level. Keep it up, though. There definitely needs to be more competition in that space and an open source option would be great.

@Chad48309

9 ай бұрын

The button problem could be fixed with a better housing design, and the introduction of large caps or supported bars.

@Cobalt985

9 ай бұрын

You could slightly change the design and 3d print bigger buttons to go over them

@sarowie

9 ай бұрын

@@Cobalt985 you are right, but this is the trade off of opensource hardware: Either go bigger/thicker (which is unattractive) or use smd buttons without cap (which is awkward to use). 3D printing just is not injection molding. But there is a trick: most EBooks and Smartphones life in a protective case. By marrying protective case and product case, the product can become a brick like the Nokia 3310.

I never understood why going after what you want to see or read was so hard on those streaming platforms. I'm trully tired of all those barriers preventing us from what was the main reason for the internet: connections without walls. It makes me happy to see that there are other people thinking about ease and openness for everyone, if I were in the United States, I would certainly find a way to join you

@DoubleMonoLR

9 ай бұрын

Indeed, all providers of digital content really need to be transparently available via an open standard web interface(& file format) - likewise with movies etc. Digital content availability is a complete shambles, caused almost entirely by wilfully proprietary standards and devices, it's ridiculous. Ideally governments would step in to enforce, but there seems bugger all chance of that happening. It's particularly ridiculous in the supposedly environmentally aware age, where devices are simultaneously incapable of using content from numerous providers &/or are permanently incapable of doing basically anything useful once the company decides to kill off a device/service.

@dannymundo7538

8 ай бұрын

With the kindle you can just hook it up to a computer and move the book on to it. I have never even had it connected to the internet or spent a single cent on any amazon books.

@colbyboucher6391

8 ай бұрын

Simple, money. Personally, I think people should just recognize that in a world where the internet exists a LOT of traditional business models become unusable, rather than enforcing traditional business models with garbage DRM, but that's what's happened. Being an author isn't something that can make you money in a truly free market where information is freely distributable. (I also wish the general public would recognize that and pay authors anyways, but so it goes.).

@user-lw4ic9tr5w

8 ай бұрын

@@dannymundo7538 true, I do the same, there are so many mobi and epub version of book out there, that you can transfer with Calibre eBook, but still i hope that project keeps on going !

I love this project, and when possible id love to build one myself, but the most major turnoff is of course lack of EPUB (or even PDF) support, and seemingly not very rich navigation features (ie. specifying page number to jump to) It would be doable in theory, and im sure in future revisions or community modifications, they'll get sorted through and added.

seems pretty cool but EPUB is just so nice to use so it would be a good thing to be able to use that file format

@shawnsorbom8907

9 ай бұрын

That was my thought too, but from the other thread here, it sounds like that might be a resource constraint issue.

@TheAkashicTraveller

9 ай бұрын

And, as someone else mentioned, epub is an ISO standard and anyone can use it completely for free.

@cristianoo2

9 ай бұрын

​@@shawnsorbom8907we could increase the computing power, spending a little more money and then running epub. It's better than txt for sure, as epub is already established as a chosen format. Epub or mobi. I'm not sure which one is lighter

I was onboard until you suggested that .txt is the one book format that will stand the test of time. I'd actively want to use this if it supported epub. Although I guess the magic is that it's open source, somebody can add epub support.

@oienu

9 ай бұрын

I know, i don't know if my ESP32 can unzip the file, maybe I need one having PSRAM to try :,D, but we really need the epub format or rtf at least. I can have notes on txt but trying to read a book there will be a mess x.x

@sarowie

9 ай бұрын

@@oienu if in doubt, host software can convert/preprocess any format into an other format. SD-Card storage is cheap. if in doubt, splinting the book in to pages and storing the pages uncompressed should reduce RAM requirements and processing times.

@mrsvcd

9 ай бұрын

Epub is too heavy for esp32, my experience is that it is too heavy for my phone. My idea to solve this would be a ebook targeting version of markdown as a first step and a openbook targeting folder structure for ebooks with picture support and other things needed as a second step (using ebook md as the text base).

@oienu

9 ай бұрын

@@sarowie or we can keep epub format but change to zip no compression, this will need add an extra step to use the file, since mostly they are compressed, but zip can store the file to keep all unify and you can read the content independly.

@oienu

9 ай бұрын

@@mrsvcd Yes, I mean, we could use the same but just ignore most tags to use the minimal possible when is processed.

This is an awesome project. This should be at high schools as a course project. This way every student would have an ereader, they would learn the other side of tech, the side of openness and control over their devices and software; and those devices would be made by themselves, so they could repair them, expand them... Even if someone is not really interested in tech, being alien to it is a luxury we can't afford anymore.

This is really cool, and a step in a very cool direction! My only concern is that there doesn't seem to be EPUB support. My other thoughts, like a larger screen or a backlight, could probably be solved with using different parts rather than any design changes (excluding the case ofc).

That's pretty cool, thanks to projects like this we'll never get completely bogged down in digital gulags.

Oh, this is _beautiful._ Assuming the capabilities of such devices improve in the future (people here are mentioning links and similar navigation features; and possibly Epub or PDF support [though I'm not sure the micro used would be capable of such things] or some sort of basic markup language at least), this is how I want technology to present itself. Open hardware, open software, assembly instructions built-in; designed to be made, repaired, and used by real human beings, respecting them all the way... it's just a beautiful artifact, even separate from its utility.

It needs to be able to display images as well. I think you need this to allow something like markdown or a markup language, as well as a format that will let you have a standard (or several) page sizes of texts so that there can be some forward caching. It also looks to me like there could be room for larger through-hole components, easier for new makers. I'd also like to see AAA size used instead of double for a lower profile, even if that means using 4x instead of 2x.

@kezif

9 ай бұрын

Version of the project in github uses aaa batteries, so its okay on that side. I didnt watched the video yet, but it seems like book uses raspberrypi as mainboard and proprietary text format for displaying. It kinda odd for me because its cuts a lot of functions (Im real fan of kindle’s search, notes, time to read and send to device via cloud functions. But it’s raspberry so software wise it could be upgraded to your needs by community. (image, pdf display, etc.)

@JohnDlugosz

9 ай бұрын

@@kezif No, it uses an ESP32 on a bespoke board, and plain UTF-8 text. Where do you get "proprietary text format for displaying"???

@colbyboucher6391

8 ай бұрын

"I think you need this to allow something like markdown or a markup language" EPUB. EPUB is a standardized markup language designed specifically for ebooks and it's much better than it's poor reputation suggests.

@sethstenzel

8 ай бұрын

@@colbyboucher6391My worry would be hardware constraints, XML is very verbose. I haven't done a lot of processing on the pico, and only some with esp32, but parsing a lot of json can be slow, and it is less verbose than XML.

@sethstenzel

8 ай бұрын

@@colbyboucher6391rather than cross compatibility, I'd rather see optimizations made for this specific device, with just "good enough" features to cover your bases. I would rather a conversion be done on an epub, that optimizes that format specifically for this device, to allow for a crisp UI and reading experience. Now maybe that means have both options, accept a slower epub, and accept a customized format.

This is amazing. We believe that we can help in designs. We will talk with out internship students about it

An A4 or Letter form factor and pdf support would allow this to be used for a lot of technical reading too…

Take the power back to the people !! I LOVE OPEN HARDWARE AND OPEN SOURCE YEEEEEHAW

Awesome work and overview. The font and clarity look amazing.

I found your project a few months back! Awesome to see you're still working on it as it seemed a bit in limbo at the time. Ill probably poke my head into the repo soon as I'm excited to make my own!

The product itself is beautiful! Excellent work and genius design....

Very nice. Got interested. Clicked on the hardware link. First thing, sold out. Nice. And into the never touched again projects bucked you go...

This is an awesome project. I have a sense the creator is more of a hardware person, but by making it open source, that opens it up to all sorts of collaborative software improvements. Really amazing work.

This is an amazing project. Thank you for sharing! It goes to show that keeping information open and accessible is in our hands. We are fortunate to be at a point in technological progression that projects like this can be done by hobbyists.

This is awesome, I’ve kicked this idea around in my head, but this is so well done. I really love the ethos around getting others to try it themselves and let the technology be demystified. I’m going to try and make one myself. You are awesome!

I already love it! Every time I see well documented piece of tech, I experience enormous satisfaction 🙂

This is an amazing project. I love that you touched on helping to save great literature. I see this as a STEM tool as well. I'll buy two if you get them made. Thanks for sharing this.

What a great project! I can see homeschools, one-room classes and online schools really benefiting from this.

@IkarusKommt

8 ай бұрын

Don't buy that White Savior BS. Those things are for hipsters and electrobics hobbyists; the real people have much better and much cheaper devices available for them.

A beautiful project, so much attention to detail! I love it.

This is great We need to have a communications device like this when the democratizes communication and governance

beautiful project and a beautiful mission. Keep the great work up! I hope you win

This is the ebook reader i have been looking for. Great job with this project.

Great teaching tool. Beautiful execution.

Amazing project. This is so extremely cool already and then it also has so much potential for future advancement. I'm obsessed!

this is one of if not the most beautiful designed e readers i have ever seen, pocketable and simple.

Bravo, bravo, bravo! What an accomplishment! There is still the DRM fight to be had, but this is a fantastic alternative. I don't have the soldering skils for DYI, so will be drilling down to find a source. 5hanks for all the hard work that went into this!

Outrageously exciting.

Thank you thank you. A thousand times thank you. My dream Is to contribute to open projects like this. Made for people and by people who don't want to make profit of data or obscuring technology to build empires

One of my favourite videos on KZread.....I am obsessed with e-ink and it's capabilities

This is excellent stuff man! Main thing I would add is antialiasing and generally improve text rendering. That would really give this a professional feel

@Chad48309

9 ай бұрын

It's open source, so hey more people should take a crack at it.

@ericxue3244

9 ай бұрын

Unifont is a bitmap font which means it is just pixelated like that. I think it should be as simple as switching out the font. He is using Unifont since it is one of the few fonts that implements basicallye every character in every language.

What a wonderful idea. If I was able to I would generously fund your project, but I am but a simple peasant in today's society that struggles to make it month to month. However, your this creates a sense of hope for our culture to see the value not just in the printed word, but in the accessible, standardized and free formats to share information with each other. Best of luck with your project, my friend.

Just a month ago I was considering to DIY e-reader since it would be amazing to have and big company ones cost so much that it just simply does not make any sense anymore. Your project is a saving grace for me since I really was looking at how to do this but delved into many wrong turns instead of finding a proper solution. thank you.

This is a very inspiring project. Keep it up!

This was MY IDEA SEVEN YEARS AGO!!! Well done, sir. You are a scholar anda gentelman.

You should take this to Futo. This is brilliant. And they'd likely pay you well to bring it to reality. I'd to love see this in an injected molded mass-market good.

Outstanding idea and an even better implementation

all. love and support

Great project! Thanks for sharing.

Amazing! Thank for thinking for the collective! I really think this will improve the life of the ones became ocross of it! Thank you a lot! Also, really cool video, I’m a professional editor and its on point! Doesn’t need tricks like white music on background or flashout transitions, streight entretening and timing!

Yes, I've been following its' development for some time now, glad to hear something new from the project!

this kind of sh.t needs to be the future. you're amazing!

I’ve been itching to do a new open source project and this is the one!!! Awesome job dood!

Best of lucks on this project!!

This is the technology we need.

Absolutely stunning work

amazing project, cheers 🎉

Really liked it. I don't know why it feels relaxing.

This is fantastic! I think this is perfect and I'd like to build one myself. Nice work!

amazing piece of technology ! simple yet innovative.

I was just the other day talking about how kindle sucks, I love this! Open Source ftw

This is exactly what I've been looking for. Just a device I can read books on the go with eBooks I already have. I don't have any experience in making anything like this, but I want one, even if I have to find out how to make it myself

Awesome awesome project!

That's so cool! I hope this goes far

I love it! Thank you for sharing it ❤

Congratulations! Really cool product.

This amazing! Thanks for creating such an ambitious project. I will be interested in making my own when the device can utilize other file formats.

Excellent!

This looks really great! I’d like some more features on the software side, like epub support and different fonts, but the glory of open-source means someone out there is probably going to do just that.

I absolutely love the idea. I would love to make it however the fact that it can only read pain UTF-8 text does bother me. Being able to open pdfs would also allows me to use the device for a lot of my school and assignment documents which would be very convenient. Looking forward that such a firmware update so I can get right into building! :)

Great project! 🎉

This would be a great educational hands-on project!

loving it!

Lindo projeto, parabéns.

This is an awesome project - well done! Myself (and others, I would imagine) would be super grateful for a tutorial video on how to put one of these together ourselves. I consider myself to be somewhat technically inclined but the soldering can be a little intimidating at first glance. Cheers.

Simple and good stuff as it should be!

Very nice! Looks like I'll have to learn how to solder (I've been meaning to, anyway). I'm mostly on board, but if someone figures out epub support, I'll be on board entirely. This project is heartening. Thanks!

Great project!

This is crazy good my dude just dope.

Love the ESP32. Excellent project! Bigger screen were nice 🙂👍

Wow, what I like most about it is the small format. You could carry it everywhere and hold it like a phone.

I'd honestly love a bigger screen, but what an amazing project you have built!

This looks like such a fun project. I have very basic soldering skills and I've been looking for a project just like this to practice on.

Thanks for doing this

would love to see pdfs and 2 pages so I can open it up and read music books. An open source version of that would be so incredible. Thank you for pushing these ideas further

This is a beautiful project!

Very nice project!

Awesome 🎉

Very neat! It is a great to see a RISC-V CPU being used here.

Tysm!

This is amazing !! I have been looking for a simple pocket e-reader that doesn't cost an arm and a leg. Then this pops up where you get to make it yourself and I can use my 3d printer as well I'm in !

Such a cool and nice project, ill build one some day.

Awesome work. If you start manufacturing these, I'd love to buy at least one to help fund you, and so that I can tinker with it.

Awesome! Now I want to build one.

This is amazing!!!!

What a great idea I hope your project takes off.

This is an awesome project. I love the Kindle for reading, but I hate the software for showing me ads and connecting me to Amazon. Definitely gonna have to think about making one of these.

super fokin cool , cant wait to make it for myself ,super cute size as well 🏴‍☠️🥳🥳🥳🤠😊🤩😍

I also wanted to create a e-reader from scratch, though I had abandoned the plan because I was not able to find a reasonably price >8 inch screen, however seeing that the 4.2 inch screen looks good too.

I would buy this as a kit in a heartbeat! I'd love to make a clear acrylic case with a black PCB 😍

this is amazing. its a project i've had kicking around in my head for a long time, but i never pulled the trigger on starting it. now i feel like i can let it go because someone else has done it haha

I love the PCB design... Genius

That’s so cool! That seems like an amazing project!