love your videos, possible to get metric on screen when talking about numbers? 🙂

Just found your channel - it’s gold. Well presented, logical information and useful! Great job

From someone who have build a DIY board with almost the same spec as Challenger I would say the price is pretty fair for the board (my DIY board with Omakase deck and Xenith esc was a bit cheaper than Onsra Challenger)

Very informative comparison brotha! Thanks

Great Video and great points! Thanks for the review

There's a reason why the Challenger has such a concave: To prevent wheelbites otherwise we wouldn't be able to add 105mm wheels. Does anyone know the space from the wheels to the deck on the Stoke?

Fantastic review as usual. I recognize this is probably apples and oranges, but from the standpoint of urban commuting on congested, pot-hole filled roads, it would be interesting to see a One Wheel Pint v. Onsra Challenger comparison.

Fabi is killing it with onsra. Wish I could afford one. Great video bro.

@fabioicm7714

2 жыл бұрын

what s the best in your opinion?stoke or onsra

The Tynee stinger has the perfect concave, dual 3000 watt x 2 motors for 6000 watts total mind you. It has a beautiful traditional yet not design. It has a 12s3p 544 wh battery which is insane. It has a 34mph top speed and the bushing/washer setup keeps it stable. And its 850bucks. And it comes with boosted 105 clones. No brainer.

Honestly I wouldn't compare them. Stoke is a powerfull toy with little range. Onsra has a big battery bigger in almost anything. Good quality video

I think the stoke is more focused on being a light, short distance travel friendly board and the onsra being 12s2p is not able to travel but has more power and range like the boosted clones. Interesting comparison.

Nice video Bro - Would be great to do one with Stoke 2. Keep up the nice work, love your channel

Just put evolve supercarve bushings on my challenger and it’s absolutely sick 🤘

Love the video! This comparo style with lots of B roll is you guys wheelhouse. You are the top of the top in this format. Funny on the Cloud wheel love. I wish there was a wheel with lots of give and a tread but a flat profile for predictable breakaway (I ride Seattle and LA ‘war zone’ like streets and can’t do a pure street wheel). Maybe a new product for you guys!?!?

Hey there, just the info(wheelbite) about the challenger I was looking for ✌👍. Oh and thumbs up for the review...excellent, honest and detailed, just perfect. Btw what is your weight and did you change the bushings or were they stock during the testing?

Awesome review!!! I’m a little bit late to the eboard party would be happy with either one of these

@averageeskatereviews

2 жыл бұрын

Glad we could help! Where are you based ?

@rangi0072

2 жыл бұрын

Australia... miles of pathways where I am ;)

Intro edit is sick. Any plans on Unknown making a kick tail deck?

@rickyeverett

3 жыл бұрын

I think we might have to dude had a lot of fun riding those boards the other day 😁

Follow up video on the Challenger, please.

Put Abec11 107mm F1 wheels on the Onsra. Range is very important so you don’t get range anxiety.

I'd love to hear how the Challenger performs with Orangatang wheels!

OOOOoooooo as soon as I heard "cloud wheels" I had to run straight to the comments! all jokes aside great video, love the differences shown between the two boards.

cool, thanks!

Do a video comparing the Onsra Challenger vs the Bustin Yoface Hybrid V3!

Hi mate, appreciate the videos please keep it up! I have a question, I don't know anybody with a stoke and bamboo gtr like you and wanted to know if you connect the big bamboo gtr battery to the stoke does it function? I know its too big but in an accident on my stoke I snapped the board and ruined the battery so I'm going to get a bamboo deck and battery and hopefully all the stoke stuff will work because I think its the same? Just want to be skating again but can't afford the new board 😥😅 please help ❤

Yeah followup video pls! But first the Black Carve 2 haha

@esk8unity

3 жыл бұрын

check my black carve 2 videos

Which Version would you choose for deep pavement carving and sliding... Direct Drive, Belt or AT Belt? LG Alex

How’s the braking with the Onsra?

Hi mate have you had a go on the stoke 2 yet ?

Phantom miles board for a short board and an MBX for my main monster ride

The controllers are different too. I prefer the wheel style controller. But I'm still riding a Boosted Stealth to work and back, and that's the kind of controller it has.

@reggiebuffat

3 жыл бұрын

RIP Boosted

Can you travel/fly with the challenger?

I cant believe you dethroned the STOKE and complimented (somewhat) the Cloud Wheels😆Did hell freeze over? Just joking....Absolutely love your channel Bro. Keep them coming.

Love the song in the beginning, anyone knows what song it is?

For the concave on the challenger I suggest wearing running sneakers. It makes it more comfortable rather than wearing skate sneakers which are flat.

@peteempiales5812

3 жыл бұрын

Agree. Plus you don’t really need skate sneakers on an eboare considering you just stand in place compared to traditional boards

@vonn1334

3 жыл бұрын

Comfort is subjective my guy.

@mrreddington777

3 жыл бұрын

@@vonn1334 crazy you wrote this like you were looking for an argument. Nothing better to do today?

Would you talk about the Miles Phantom ?

Hey what song is this in the beginning?? Please get back to me

Is the version 2 flux 🤩 next ??

How long can u hold a manual?

Ohhhhh! U didn't Crap on the cloud wheels!!! Haha... I think they have improved the cores and they're more reliable now.

Follow up video; Stoke Gen2 vs Onsra Challenger

Wow! I did not think you liked the trucks of the Onsra, the hobbywing ESC and the cloud wheels?

@averageeskatereviews

3 жыл бұрын

trucks are fine, ESC and motors still perform like the original Black Carve, slow off the line but once it gets moving, its fast. For this type of board I don't feel like you need savage off the line performance.

@johnglover4318

3 жыл бұрын

@@averageeskatereviews Got you, surprised about the trucks given your criticism of the generic Chinese DKP trucks before. Glad you are back making reviews though. One another note, Chris should love the Evolve Hadean since it addresses all of your demands and upgrades.

@averageeskatereviews

3 жыл бұрын

@@johnglover4318 Same motors and battery as the M5 so very underwhelmed to be honest. M5 also uses a proper Vesc (Focbox Tenka) so it’s much more customisable regarding max speed and power vs the new Evolve. Expected a lot more for what they are charging. It’s very expensive for no reason 😔

Cool video! Could you help me review Tynee Mini Electric Skateboard ? thanks average eskate reviews

@averageeskatereviews

3 жыл бұрын

Sure. Email us

What helmet are you wearing?

Really Chris! Cloud wheels!! Lol. Nice review. I chose the Stoke because it is lighter and I have 97 mm Abec wheels without wheel bite. You like the generic Chinese DKP trucks now? And the HW ESC? Are you doing the Evolve Hadean? Seems to live up to all your previous demands on a future Evolve.

@averageeskatereviews

3 жыл бұрын

For this type of board, the combination worked fine. The board (like the first black carve) is a little slow off the line but once it gets going, its fast. We'll probably do a video on the Hadean but its basically a restricted version of our own M5 with a MUCH bigger price tag. Disappointed in the spec vs the price but we will feature so king of video later in the year if we get our hands on one.

@averageeskatereviews

3 жыл бұрын

PS: I did say I’d be changing them to 97mm street 🤷🏾‍♂️

@jonassvensson1819

3 жыл бұрын

@@averageeskatereviews Well, there is as you have pointed out many times the bits about support/spares and I think the Hadean has fairly impressive performance and features. I think you would need to have more choice of pulleys, options and spares for your board.I would need pulleys for Kegel to be able to put Onsras rubber wheels on your board.

@averageeskatereviews

3 жыл бұрын

@@jonassvensson1819 Evolve have really gone down for me. You’ll see in the new podcast coming today..

Ricky can I Buy one of your 12s 4p battery? I’m having a hard time finding one.

@rickyeverett

3 жыл бұрын

Yes dude drop us a email or hit me up on Instagram rickyeverett1 👍🏼

@J0eMega

3 жыл бұрын

Cell shortages are a bitch :/

Have you not heard of the Tynee stinger?!?!?!?!

You code for 5 % is not working for a challenger DD and some wheels 😣😳😖😳😟😕

Even the concave on the Bamboo is too steep for my taste. I like it to be flat. lol

That intro was awesome 👌

@averageeskatereviews

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you

Onsra for sure but both are too much. Should have compared bkb tayto. What's your 3rd runner up?

@esk8unity

3 жыл бұрын

have u demo’d all 3??

Please do some follow ups!

Great unbiased review :)

The ideal wheel for the challenger is the Boa 100mm

@Catamount19

2 жыл бұрын

Where can you get those and do you have to change the pulleys or can they take 40t pulleys?

Have you tried the exway wave? It definitely seems on par with them.

sry evolve they need an update . onsra looks mint

@reggiebuffat

3 жыл бұрын

Evolve looks has been visually

Amazing! Now Chris likes the scroll wheel remote, hobbywing motor controller, cloud wheels and the previously much criticized Chinese double king pin trucks that was very much underperforming on the Vestar, Ownboard and Onsra Black Carve 1. Not very credible

@averageeskatereviews

3 жыл бұрын

So don’t watch 😂 This board and it’s riding style vs a long board are totally different. If you watched the entire video, you would have heard me say I plan to change the cloud wheels for 97mm street wheels 🙄 special, social guy, ride safe and thanks for the view 👌🏾

this is 2021. and there is a direct drive. .belt driven is old low tech.

You're not a heavy, or light rider. But are you a Knightrider?

Swap the Stoke deck over and use the Challenger running gear. Problem solved.

@darrenmalone2026

3 жыл бұрын

Agreed...thinking exactly the same thing.

Onsra all day

I like the challenger the most, I like that its direct drive. If evolve offered the stoke in dd I would buy that over the challenger.

@darrenmalone2026

3 жыл бұрын

Why so?...DD sit in a lower position and a real rip thru most any route would damage the motors. What would you do to counter that issue?

@mrreddington777

3 жыл бұрын

I have the challenger dd and I love it.

The miles Phantom Board will beat both of these and uses E batteries Wich are much better then the onsra uses weaker batteries...the miles phantom will beat both these in performance try making video on it MILES PHANTOM BOARD

When you said “It’s kind of clear that the evolve is the better looking board” I kinda felt attacked because it’s definitely the onsra that’s the better looking board.

Not sure how you can compare these. In Australia, the Stoke is $1100 Aud and the Challenger is $1800 Aud, the same price as a GTR. I would hope the Challenger is better in all departments. The only thing they have in common is the kicktail.

I love every video you guys make. They are usually great, informative and unbiased. However, I will say I think you guys dropped the ball on this one. It seems strange to compare a board which is clearly made and advertised to be able to air-travel, with a board which is clearly not. The range, speed and acceleration differences can all be explained as the Stoke was designed around a travel format. Personally I would not buy the Onsra as I need a Stoke sized board for travelling.

As soon as he said the evolve board looked better, I instantly knew to take all of his opinions with a grain of salt😂

Onsra Challenger 3/10 don't do it

@appearoffline

Жыл бұрын

Why?

@dgor.1266

Жыл бұрын

@@appearoffline where do I begin 😠how about in 7 years of Eboard skating 10 Electric skateboard they are the worst sneaky lies even stealing my money and up to this day having send me my accessories, I will suggest to everybody everybody to stay far away from that company and I wish to God one day I meet this Fabian face to face 😤😡😠🤫Stealing my money and hitting me with lies upon lies not to mention sending my board in for repair and they send it back slower and weaker with more lies about replacing the battery and blocking all my comments because there are the biggest snake ever, just watching his videos with his laughing make me feel like booking a flight and I will stay no more 👿

@appearoffline

Жыл бұрын

@@dgor.1266 Sorry to hear about that bad experience. People pay good money not just for the Onsra boards but also for the aftersales support. I'd be extremely angry if I had the same experience too! ✈️ 🚫

@dgor.1266

Жыл бұрын

@@appearoffline sooner or later he and his company will get what's coming to him 👿two of his distributors already dropped him, Onsra California and Onsra Miami

@dgor.1266

Жыл бұрын

👿✈️🎯👊🤕♿😈

The stoke is the better looking board? Seriously? It looks tacky. I don't even think it's close. It's as though someone has taken a piece of wood and stuck it on 4 wheels? Who else thinks this?

@wezter96

3 жыл бұрын

I agree with you, I was shocked when he said that ^^

@esk8unity

3 жыл бұрын

i actually like the stoke better, but i agree, the challenger looks better

@robertmorris7438

3 жыл бұрын

Stoke looks like a retro board, surfboard inspired swallow tail. Its a great second board to grab for the liquor store

@reggiebuffat

3 жыл бұрын

Preach it bro!

Way the fuck over priced.

L evolve

The Stoke looks better than the Challenger😒 maybe you're right, Evolve fanboy you get my 👍up for the video

@ASeSkater

3 жыл бұрын

Lmao. Watch their most recent video

@reallytho99

3 жыл бұрын

It's just preference for the wood, but comparing the look will obviously be polarizing when one is all black, it has the classic cleaner look than constructionorange wheels

This is a stupid comparison, the stoke is waaaaaaaaay cheaper

This channel still bringing up evolve. We need to move past that company. Yall have Stockholm syndrome