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@vonclaren1

Жыл бұрын

Agenda 2030, World Economic Forum, the great reset and the new world order, you'll own nothing and be happy about it . . .

I remember those little boxes from way back where the pieces weren't sealed in the box. The sound of the loose bricks in the box when you shook it is still my most favorite sound ever. 😊

@eemillampinen

Жыл бұрын

Yeah when i was little kid i own the city xxl crane that was using the numbered boxes

@pablesm

Жыл бұрын

Bionicle cans didn't have bags

I think the fact that current LEGO bricks still fit the ones from 1958 already makes them sustainable. You can collect even the old pieces and they're less likely to end up in a landfill. That is what makes LEGO a different kind of TOY, it is Multi-generational.

@q1q2q23

Жыл бұрын

THIS!

@pwcorgi2000

Жыл бұрын

This is what I think of when I think about sustainability. Not like what electronics do, and cut out pores or have proprietary connections. Appke is the biggest culprit of doing this, and telling people that they don't need a certain connector or feature. Who are they to tell others what they need or dont need?

@Nr1from1978

Жыл бұрын

I'm 44 and still have bricks my dad used to play with when he was a kid. Amazing.

Back in the 70s and 80s the bricks wers simply loose in the cardboard box, no bags! This was OK for most pieces, but you can imagine that windows, windscreens and large non-studded surfaces did suffer.

finally, so happy they started with using the new paper bags

Glad to see they finally came with this. I love them already!

I wasn't exited when I first heard about paper bags in lego boxes, but after seeing the actual paper bags in a set, while I'm still not totally satisfied with it, it is a little bit better than I thought it would be.

@kentslocum

Жыл бұрын

Very innocent question--what does not satisfy you about the paper bags? Sure, they're not transparent, but as long as they're numbered, it shouldn't be a problem. (Correct me if I misinterpreted your comment, because maybe you meant that you have always been disappointed by plastic bags, and was worried that paper bags would be even more annoying).

Got that set ages ago, but would buy it twice with those plastic free bags. I might need a back up of the great mini-fig it brings along. The idea for making them resealable is great, so you don't even throw away the plastic bags, now cool paper bags. For some, the only plastic we should really care and keep flawlessly is the actual Lego toy. Not me, I sometimes save around the house everything the set brings. Thanks for the update, good move from The Lego Corp.

FINALLY!

Too bad that they can’t be transparent , as I far prefer the look, but I guess better for the environment

I've always hated the plastic bags but the crunch sound is nice but I do agree on the paper bags

i might miss the pastic one but im all in for paper bags ... i still recall sending to the recycling bin countless plastic bags from sets

@kentslocum

Жыл бұрын

You're lucky. I'm not allowed to put those plastic bags in the recycling bin in my area. Instead, I just collect them in a giant cardboard box.

I am excited for this change. I get frustrated as I don't have a place near me for recycling Lego bags, and the adult sets often have a LOT of bags as they are often used to make the building experience easier. Can't wait for this to trickle up to Technic sets.

@kentslocum

Жыл бұрын

True! I currently collect all of my LEGO plastic bags in a giant cardboard box, hoping that one day I can find a place that will accept them for recycling. Throwing them away isn't an option, since it would be both extremely wasteful and expensive (I pay for garbage disposal, so I prefer to use the smallest garbage can available, and there's only enough room for food waste, since my area doesn't have a separate composting collection system).

I am happy with paper bags. They looks cleaner and more easier to tear open them.

It would be cool if they had different designs or characters so it could be used like a coloring bag for kids

I still remember trays in lego boxes.

Great breakdown! Way more interesting than I thought it would be.

Seeing that you can now fold up the bags is a much better idea then the plastic bags. Because I hate being intoxicated while building a Lego set and opening the wrong bag And now you have an open plastic bag full of parts that can spill at any moment. But with the paper bag system if you mess up and open the wrong bag you can fold it.

Would like to say I always love your balanced, well thought-thru reviews - thanx Balazs (hope I wrote yr name right)!

I think the only downside is you can't look inside, which in specific circumstances can be annoying.

@richkawaiipikachu

Жыл бұрын

I tend to leave large pieces in bags so these bags would make that idea useless. I guess I shall change how I do things from now on.

@kentslocum

Жыл бұрын

Only if the bags aren't numbered, and even in that case, only if you were trying to extract one individual piece at a time, which is inefficient. If I buy a set for a specific piece and don't intend to build the entire set, I'll still look through the instruction manual to figure out what bag the piece is in. And then I dump the bag out onto a tray with a raised edge, so all of the pieces are easy to see. I'll then dump the contents of the tray into a ziploc bag, which has the advantage of being both transparent and resealable.

They seem like an upgrade - the plastic ones are prone to tearing more and more during the build and parts spill out of the sides. In future I could see vintage bricks being prized more highly due to robustness - something will definitely suffer as they try new compounds.

@natbarmore

Жыл бұрын

It’s certainly _possible_ , but recyclability and durability aren’t necessarily in opposition. Even biodegradability and durability can coexist, if the product isn’t used in similar conditions to how it is disposed. I’m hoping TLG figures out how to have sturdy Lego pieces made from something other than fossil fuels which last just as long in normal use, but can be effectively recycled.

Great video !!!

it seems like a lot of people have mixed feelings, but I think this is just because its such a radical change. Even if people believe paper packaging is not technically as robust as plastic, looking at the bigger picture and how much less waste shows us that its worth it

Thanks for the review as always. I'm wondering: can you hear the difference between paper bags and plastic ones in a sealed box if you shake it a bit? If you can, I can picture people shaking boxes in Lego shops from now on. :)

Finally it has begun! I had been getting impatient for the transition to occur, but I'm glad it's still happening.

I think the paper bags look much nicer.

I would love if one of the paper bags per set was re-sealable for extra parts storage. I know it would mean one bag couldn't be 100% recyclable, but it would be nice for storage of those extra parts and being able to label those extra parts by set

muito interessante, gostei, espero ver nos proximos legos essa bag de papel

this will take building experience to a whole new level, and besides the blank white rendered manuals looking horrible, I actually do like the blank bags with lego bricks on them

Great washing... These bags are "paper-based" and still contain a thin plastic lining. Also paper bags take four times as much energy to produce than plastic producing mor CO2

Finally 😁

i used to look through the transparent bags in order to find pieces untill i used my brain and realised that dumping the contents of the bag onto the table is a lot easier

Really happy to see the change. I was never really a fan of the plastic, it's only real advantage was that it was clear, but the sheer amount of plastic waste from a set was always an unpleasant experience.

1. paper bags are good because paper is one of the most recycled item. 2 soft plastics and foams make pointed pieces like swords and propellers safer after all the lego sets have to be safe for all ages adults are not the only ones using legos.

I prefer the paper bags, environment comes first

@mr.m6933

Жыл бұрын

Nerd

Has any of you ever been near a paper mill? I can assure you it's far from ecological and it actually reeks of human piss and death. It also consumes a lot of fresh water.

Paper bag can stand and fold, but i don't think we gonna use it for storage. Anyway, paper bag should be support for enviroment care.

I'm looking forward to these paper bags. The plastic bags are very loud and tend to trap small pieces in the corners.

I really don't care about plastic or paper bags, i just need bricks😁

I wonder how those paper bags will work out for KZreadrs?Some youtubers like to show the unboxing and show the bags and whats in them.They wont be able do that anymore.

Tbh they look far better than the plastic one

I'd prefer plastic resealable zip bags to be honest, they could be reused for storage, I think they only chose paper bags to cut costs since plastic is becoming more expensive by the years and improve profits, I wonder if 10-20 years from now the bricks will be made from paper too

As much as I will miss the look of the plastic bags when building, I also see that the paper bags are necessary

All this time they should have been making durable resealable plastic bags that can stand on their own

Paper bag is quite good.

eu só acho q tem varios legos q a caixa poderiam ser beeemm menores, isso usaria menos papel tbm, e facilitaria transporte e armazenamento (em larga escala, qualquer redução fica enorme)

Imagine how bag collectors feel now

Will I like them more than the plastic ones? I'm not sure. The plastic looks nicer but the paper looks like it will be easier to dispose of. In general I'm all for making it more environmentally friendly, so two thumbs up.

Hello Balazs, i know you don’t usually do leaks but are you excited about the leaked cars coming in 2023 in speed champions and technic?

How did you know in which box they used paper bags?

just something else to contribute to the sky high price for legos nowadays

3:01-3:07 I'don't open the plastic bag that way, I open them in the middle so I can reuse them to store any segment of the build.

In your opinion, are these paper bags good enough to be used as blind bags for things like CMF, yet durable enough so people can still try to feel for what's inside?

@diatonicdelirium1743

Жыл бұрын

CMF in blind bags is a gambling rip-off, don't buy them and certainly don't let your children buy them.

@elpiloto100

Жыл бұрын

@@diatonicdelirium1743 it's not if you know how to feel for them... I have never gotten a CMF that I did not want because I know what's inside before paying for it.

@diatonicdelirium1743

Жыл бұрын

@@elpiloto100 For AFOL this might acceptable -- we can buy lottery tickets as well after all -- but selling 'loot-boxes' to children is a big no-no to me.

@elpiloto100

Жыл бұрын

@@diatonicdelirium1743 fair enough, for loot boxes where people don't have any reasonable chance of guessing what's inside, it's gambling and no longer a toy.

I have this set

@VeryTastySoup87

Жыл бұрын

Me too

@amirsalih2332

Жыл бұрын

Same

I`m ok with paper bags. It will not sound as good when opening a box. But there is of course sustainability and surprise what parts are inside :)

there's a layer of plastic inside the bags??

Good news ! They finally arrives into the sets.

Wait so the paper bags still have plastic inside?

But how it affects on price?

Most important question about the paper bags, Do they keep the new lego smell inside

Hope they still have the good smell of a newly opened bag of bricks

@Dan-2025

Жыл бұрын

I guessing by the times sets released with paper bags become vintage, They'll probably smell like old book paper, And since it's not air tight, I think it'll lose that new bag smell over time

Am I the only one that loves the smell of opening a new plastic Lego bag?👀

@matteocristini6221

Жыл бұрын

I was gonna ask the same thing! I'm going to miss the danish packed air smell...

1nd kudos to lego on more sustainable packaging 2st it's meme levels of funny how lego will experiment, achieve success, innovate, improve in some many areas, always holding the highest quality standards but also always refusing to make good brown bricks that wont break on sight lol it's like a staple now, almost as classic as the 2x2 red brick lol

What does "fully recyclable" mean exactly? Since the PP of the bag is also "fully recyclable", and this paper clearly still uses a plastic film on the inside. So you probably can't just throw it in the paper bin, while People will obviously do this which will result in even worse recycling with plastic mixed in with paper.

@RacingBrick

Жыл бұрын

According to the team the paper can be thrown in the paper bin, the percentage of paper in the bag allows it. I assume other packages that you put there are not 100% paper either, there should be an industry standard for it.

@rosserobertolli

Жыл бұрын

@@RacingBrick Ah superb, thanks! I was skeptical because the change from plastic to paper coffee cups and plastic to 'paper' drink packaging makes a greener appearance but is in reality harder to recycle and has more environmental impact because of the high plastic/metal contents. Good to hear that LEGO kept it below a certain threshold

Ela ❤ ❤

I really like how well they designed those bags! They didn't just glue two pieces of paper together.

i have gotten a decent amount of Lego and i still haven't gotten a paper bag

I feel like they should be designed with the contents printed on the paper.

@RacingBrick

Жыл бұрын

That'd be a logistical nightmare

I feel like Lego could still have made this paper bag/package more recyclable by adding a Ziploc zip

@armin9074

Жыл бұрын

do you mean reusable? it's harder to recycle when two materials are mixed.

@junichi6707

Жыл бұрын

@@armin9074 yes, I meant to say reusable. 😅

I dont mind what they use. I buy for the Lego not the bags or boxes. Although I do like the art its not a must.

Lol it really doesn't matter. Not sure if they are helping by making less plastic or hurting trees by using more paper :P It's a bunch of plastic sold in a plastic :P it's fine. paper is fine

damn, I was going to build one of my lego sets that aren't being made anymore but I guess I won't even open it if lego is replacing the bags with something disgusting. I hate paper

The paper bags just feel so… un-Lego. I know it’s better to reduce plastic and all that, but one of the most iconic things about Lego, to me, are the transparent plastic bags. I’m sure I’ll get used to it, but in the meantime it feels very wrong. xD

i have the non paper version of this set huh

The "elephant in the room" is that.. the very thin plastic bags use less "plastic" than even one x1 piece of lego, so as usual it's the "green" thing but really if the world was about to die from this "stuff" then we should not make lego. But it's all objective, like .. paper straws because.. and then they get a plastic sleeve to put them in.. 😂

It looks like a US army Apache helicopter

Good on Lego but... ...we could have really go without different printed designs on the bags. We've been getting plastic bag with a simple numbers printed on it for years and it's enough, they get trashed or recycled anyway. Adding more steps of production to a "consumable" utility just increase the cost and it's for sure getting reflected in the overall prices of sets. From a manufacturing standpoint it's counter productive, useless and don't make any differences on the end product.

Most sets today, (2023) I think, still have plastic bags…

Whatever you say. Opening a nice new lego plastic bag has to be the most satisfying thing ever.

Those paper bags won't help an environment They exist only for high ESG score

@Dan-2025

Жыл бұрын

I'm concerned with what will happen if a sets gets water damaged, with airtight plastic you don't have to worry but with the new paper that will be a problem, plus also since paper is fibrous, it might break down when you've got an unopened Set for a decade or more and it gets dusty, I'm not a fan of this change

I really think it's a downgrade. There are so many biodegradable plastic options available, and Lego isn't a cheap product, so I would expect them to come up with better solution that provides both sustainably and functionality of the current transparent bags

@RacingBrick

Жыл бұрын

Most biodegradable plastics require quite special conditions for the process and I don't think their collection is wide spread. Paper is one of the most commonly collected recyclable material around the world, so chances for these to be properly recycled are much higher.

@CharloBagis

Жыл бұрын

Biodegradable plastic degrade and decompose in time. A Lego box with pieces stored in biodegradable plastic bags could end up with all the bricks in the box if kept on a shop shelf for a number of years

@RacingBrick

Жыл бұрын

@@CharloBagis not really. The term biodegradable plastic is incorrectly used for plastics that simply decompose into tiny pieces (microplastics) that still has a very much negative effect on the environment, and also used for plastics that needs special environment (temperature and other components) to fully decompose. Most of these won't simply "disappear" in the nature.

@mity0k

Жыл бұрын

@@RacingBrick This is from a 3 year old BBC article "Novamont, producer of Mater-Bi - a starch-based plastic used in the compostable carrier bags launched by the Co-op this year. A report released by the company and conducted in partnership with Hydra, a German marine research institute, and the University of Siena, Italy, says that the product fully biodegrades in seawater on a timescale of between four months and a year, leaving no toxic residues." So I don't think a multi-billion dollar company needs excuses, they can do more than virtue signaling

@RacingBrick

Жыл бұрын

@@mity0k so you are convinced that the employees of that multi-billion dollar company did not do their homework and they simply ignored the wonderful other possibilities you can find with a 5 minute google search simply because they are arrogant enough to do so? Or maybe, just maybe they evaluated several options based on dozens of different factors and made a decision based on that?

Tbh I'll miss the plastic bags, I couldn't really care less about the packaging being more sustainable (Although it isn't a bad thing). However, I'm actually a little excited. I feel like this will give Lego even more of a premium feel again, and I am impressed with how they've handled it. My only concern is when buying new sets second-hand you used to be able to see through the plastic bags to make sure you were getting legit Lego without opening it, but I feel like knock-off companies will have a hard time replicating the paper bags so, for now, I see this switch as a total win.

No more build in the bag

Not a fan, just as I'm not a fan of the biodegradable bricks.

So now they will cut down trees to make paper bags. How very eco friendly. Let's wait and see how those paper bags will look in say 5 years after being sealed in Lego box.

@RacingBrick

Жыл бұрын

They will mostly use recycled paper

@Inflator82

Жыл бұрын

@@RacingBrick white paper cannot come from recycled paper.

@RacingBrick

Жыл бұрын

@@Inflator82 that's nonsense, you can even buy recycled printer paper

@Inflator82

Жыл бұрын

@@RacingBrick 'Therese Noorlander, Senior Director, Sustainability Engagement and Anne Boye Møller, Project Manager about the bags and other sustainability initiatives. We learnt that a lot of research went into finding a suitable paper stock, one that's robust enough not to tear or dent when the corners of pieces press into it. It has longer fibres than normal to give it strength, and it's made from FSC certified wood pulp rather than recycled materials'. Goodbye and good luck.

@RacingBrick

Жыл бұрын

@@Inflator82 my bad, apparently I misinterpreted the presentation. Still, if you check what "FSC certified wood pulp" means, the usage of this material is still much better then manufacturing plastic bags.

Don`t like it, takes away the mojo. What do you do with the plastic bags anyway? I have always recycled them. "That is what we do in Norway". We also recycle 92,5% of all glass- and plastic bottles and alu cans. The rest of the world seems to throw it in the garbage (or the nature).. If the quality and/or color consistence of Lego bricks is a problem today, just WAIT till they make them more... sustainable. Sayonara Lego (as a collector)

This is just an excuse for Lego to find ways to cheap out on their products, they will take away the manual for sustainability purposes...

Just make bricks with paper

Honestly, this is pretty dumb. Most people dont recycle to begin with, so either way the majority of this is being thrown in the trash at the end of the day. Plus not to mention, a huge number of cities have been caught taking their recycle trucks and dumping it all in the landfill, so even if you do recycle, chances are its not even going where you think it is. Also doing this, takes away that super satisfying noise the plastic bags give, i dont know about everyone else but that sound is always great.

@CharloBagis

Жыл бұрын

Not sure where you live but in my country and as far as I know in all Europe we take recycling very seriously. You can get fined if they catch you with recyclable items in non recyclable garbage

@brandonjones5096

Жыл бұрын

@@CharloBagis I'm in the US, and here overall, people really don't give a shit. And here we have a few shows that investigate stuff, not sure if they air there, but they went to a bunch of cities and followed recycling trucks around and they found that pretty much all of them just drive straight to the regular trash landfill and dumped the recycling in with everyday trash. People do it here just so they feel good about it, in reality it does nothing. So I don't even bother wasting my time to sort trash. I mean its trash, I'm not homeless, I'm not going to go digging around in it.

@user-ne4ld3jp6i

Жыл бұрын

Totally wrong mindset to have. If recycling companies don't recycle, it falls to us to force them to, at the threat of protest or legal action. Saying "well things are shitty, better not even try" is just nonsense.

@brandonjones5096

Жыл бұрын

Lol, protest and take legal action over not recycling? Good lord, what a luxury it must be to have that kinda free time to worry over something so insignificant.

@Sopsy_Hallow

Жыл бұрын

@@brandonjones5096 what luxury it is to be in a position where you can be ignorant of the massive issues with a lack of recycling and sustainability. the only dumb thing here is you and your attitude

Interesting plastic is hard to recycle, But paper is way more easier to get? Sure cutting trees will help with papers bags... so stupid idea.

@SilverEye91

Жыл бұрын

What are you talking about?

@DimaLegoFUN

Жыл бұрын

@@SilverEye91 i mean to get paper you need to cut trees and get wood. Wich is not healthy.

@marcch72

Жыл бұрын

@@DimaLegoFUN paper can be recycled into new paper

@DimaLegoFUN

Жыл бұрын

@@marcch72 not 100% you still nedd to add new paper, and if you need clean paper not like for paper towels low quality you need a lof of components, and here they adding plastic inside...

@q1q2q23

Жыл бұрын

Your mental shortcut leads you astray. Cutting down trees is not bad per se, because the trees are planted specifically for paper production! Nobody is going to cut down a pristine ancient forest for these bags... So by using paper instead of plastics you get an industry incentive to plant trees instead of building plastic bag factories. Horrible, right?

Bro the this sucks bruh why paper

ah yes better get rid of those plastic bags to sell plastic bricks