5:17 the DSR pain behind that "oh god" at the phase change once the music starts KILLS ME every time LOL

This fight really aged like fine wine. Was goated back then and is still goated.

@ReyReyzzz

8 ай бұрын

They need to tune up the normal version though so that he doesn’t die in 5 seconds

@nyrahl593

8 ай бұрын

@@ReyReyzzz its an MSQ fight, it will never be.

@ReyReyzzz

8 ай бұрын

@@nyrahl593 you’re unfortunately probably correct. You know cuz sprouts might get mad and rage quit if they die to a MSQ fight for once. Everything just HAS to be danger proofed to the point that it’s just a moving target dummy.

@krivdik

8 ай бұрын

@@ReyReyzzz MSQ versions will never be hard, you can't ask the casual playerbase to adapt to highter challenge...

@BlitzkriegOmega

8 ай бұрын

I played this fight about 6 months ago MiNE (the Extreme this Unreal is based on) and it's still just as good as ever.

Back when you actually had to position the boss

@sergiolas100

8 ай бұрын

thordan ex have more movement than ultimate version xffing

@KyvannShrike

8 ай бұрын

I miss boss positioning so much and FF14 feels like less of an MMO without it.

@chillidari-9392

8 ай бұрын

​@@KyvannShrikeEndwalker made good progress on turning FF14 from an MMORPG to a single player JRPG. Maybe Dawntrail will be the final blow kek

5:20 that shit kills me. straight through my soul

I think the cool thing about that fight is the phases use the ad phase mechanics for each guy but together and differently in the main part of the fight and it's not as samey with each mechanic compared to current EXs, feels more like the way they construct a savage fight minus the fact that there's no one big tough mechanic and things are a bit easier to figure out, really does make it the perfect extreme fight

What a timeless fight

fun fact: the "Wall" of Thordan Extreme isn't actually a Death Wall. it just does a *lot* of damage, usually enough to kill anyone in 2 tics.

@NomoregoodnamesD8

7 ай бұрын

in the current unreal it does 999K true damage which an instakill. I think only GNB/PLD can invuln it, and the res Transcendence buff also works. In the old extreme it does 9.9K true damage every second, very easy to survive unsync even as a caster

They 1shotted it, I thought I would do the same on PF and then I remembered we didn't have 8 world level players in one team xD. This fight is so good, my second favorite to Titan.

I love this fight so much it is such a fun unreal with such great music, makes me feel like im in such an epic boss fight with things coming at me from every angle and having to stand in front of my teammate to protect them from incoming damage.

This was the first EX I cleared that wasn't unsynced and still remains a damn fun fight.

This was so fun, first time doing warrior in "harder" content (i usually play reaper). Had such a blast doing the tell and retells.

10/10 fight even today.

@anzeg-

8 ай бұрын

Really not sure why people love this fight, the warring triad were much more interesting mechanically and punishing on deaths.

@NaoriYT

8 ай бұрын

​​@@anzeg-Fast paced fight with multiple mechanics throwed at the same time. Back in the days it was a huge step in terms of ex difficulty. The general aesthetic of the fight and the music help too 👌

@xierotron

8 ай бұрын

​@@anzeg-i dont i find phase 1 and the adds of sephorit boring as fuck yes phase 2 is a banger tho

@aydenmartin5650

8 ай бұрын

yh all of that is phase 2 tho, it takes 6+ minutes to get to the good part lmfao, you could completely remove half of the fight and miss nothing @@NaoriYT

@ninetailedfox579121

8 ай бұрын

@@aydenmartin5650 All fights are like that. The first phases act as an introduction of sorts and then there's a middle bridge and then the final phase throws things from the first phase and some new things in more complicated patterns.

Starting playing this game last year. Spammed this and Shiva on free trial and so glad I remember literally everything. Both runs were so chill with random goated pf

Cleared this today, what a cool fight. It's got a bunch of disconnected but really simple mechanics and it's FAST but forgiving, love it!

STILL one of my favourite fights in the entire game and STILL one of the absolute best!!! The perfect amount of mechanics, the OST is a BANGER, and nothing is too convoluted. Back in HW I raved to all my friends about it lmao this is seriously one of SE's best right here, folks!

I remember when this was new it was my 1st major clear for when I caught up in game at the time. It wet my appetite yo start doing Savage. This fight has everything. I miss the dps checks of HW.

As someone who only got to max level around Sophia back in the day, these Unreals have been a blast.

Seeing this I don't think 2023 8 Warrior Thordan Unreal woul be possible. Would just be a nice hommage to the old video.

Lets goooo! Best fucking fight ever! Excellent job my king😊

I was surprised by how relatively easy this fight was as someone who only joined after shb. It was fun, I cleared it in 2 hours on pf, not too bad

@ItsSVO

8 ай бұрын

Jobs are much much easier now than they were in Heavensward coupled with higher potency abilities and better kits etc. healers used to have to stance dance with cleric to do dps back in Heavensward. Still an amazing fight but it’s never going to fully replicated as the game has changed so much since.

@virescenticious

8 ай бұрын

Min ilvl at 60 would probably be a better representation, though still not perfect. Game doesn’t fuck you in the ass for slightly messing up your rotation anymore.

Harigoto, my old raid leader from T6-9 🔥

Love ur content man

Actually crazy how little damage this fight does in comparison to how it used to be. Maybe I'm misremembering things, but looks like a lot less damage. Probably not accounting for the fact we have a zillion more mit tools now

@Leon-yv3tg

8 ай бұрын

Its the kit and the countless mititgation potencies, the mechanics back then would rail you mega hard

@penrilfake

8 ай бұрын

Healers also had a lot less healing tools back then. The only AoE healing abilities in the oGCD were Indomitability and Assize, which was on a way longer cooldown. Tetra and Essential Dignity were the only oGCD single target heals outside of Lustrate spam too, so keeping tanks up through the tank busters while also keeping people alive through the blue markers in the knights phase was super challenging. Doing this synced at minimum IL should give you a better idea of what it was like back then.

What is the glam on the RPR weapon?

@bamberscher_offiziell7261

8 ай бұрын

Should be the modified tomestone weapon dyed in silver or white. „Avatar Scythe“.

The Add phase was made wrong You attack the one with sword oath and not the one with shield oath

I think back when this was new there was no eye indicator for gaze right?

@penrilfake

8 ай бұрын

There wasn't! It was added midway through SB maybe? Or perhaps towards the end of HW.

I'm new to final fantasy can someone explain me why he can do a level 60 boss at 90 again?

Love this fight. Zurvan felt so annoying and boring.

They have to make Nidhogg Unreal next

@rinnnnnnnnnnrin

8 ай бұрын

I mean wasn't that the next trial after thordan anyway? Not counting triad (which has already been done)

Is unreal just the extreme trial tuned to current iLvl with the same mechanics?

@EmiTerasu_

8 ай бұрын

Pretty much.

🔥 beat

This unreal was super fun but healing it as Sage was kinda broken tbh 😂

crutch was used! fatality!

90% of mechs can be solved with a single spread pos, I don't find it that good. Not sure what I missed

@aydenmartin5650

8 ай бұрын

yeah fr, also a fuck ton of downtime and boring mechs in the beginning

@bnhearyza4767

8 ай бұрын

I honestly feel like a lot of people have rose tinted glasses for this fight. The first half of the fight is insanely free, the second half is also really easy, with 3 of its major mechanics being able to be solved with going middle or under the boss, and spreading to clock spots. It's fun, but nothing special by todays standards. I think Warrior of Light is this fight, but much better designed and much more mechanically difficult.

@ItsSVO

8 ай бұрын

@@bnhearyza4767 you have to bear in mind how braindead jobs are to play now for sure. Healers used to have to cleric stance dance for damage and didn’t have a million ogcd heals/mit tools at their disposal. It wasn’t just mechanics that made fights like this what they were it was how our toolkits were back in HW too.

@ninetailedfox579121

8 ай бұрын

@@bnhearyza4767 You would be surprised how terrible some people can be. When Sephirot first came out there were people in learning parties who didn't know left and right for the very first stack mechanic. For those people Thordan is a truly mind-bending encounter.

first unreal in a while I wont be pugging :(

O.o you using PLD for this?😮

@Ewing_Klipspringer

8 ай бұрын

Endwalker took Xeems from MAN MODE to GUN MODE to GOD MODE.

@dirtynicky

8 ай бұрын

Haha I noticed that too! What happened to WAR main? 😂

@KyvannShrike

8 ай бұрын

Paladin can get some uptime on the other knight during the ad phase for what I'd imagine is a bit more DPS but someone will have to do the math. Basically your knight will have heavy DR if you have the one with the shield buff.

Better mechanics than all the 6.5 mechanics xffing

@Paraguai123

8 ай бұрын

6.5? You mean Zeromus?

@IKIGAIofficial

8 ай бұрын

@@Paraguai123 yeah and alliance lol

@Paraguai123

8 ай бұрын

@@IKIGAIofficial I mean, Alliance isn't meant to be hard as an Unreal but I get what you mean.

@xierotron

6 ай бұрын

Whoa the Criterion dungeons have some bangers tho, just getting a party for the bloody things

@IKIGAIofficial

6 ай бұрын

@@xierotron criterion was a minor patch. not 6.5. because yes i agree. those mechs were bangers.

Heavensward fights, mechanics and rotations were the best.

it doesnt look as hard as MINE?

As a PLD main, I forget goring from time to time and I find myself asking why it exists all the time

@SventFulgur

8 ай бұрын

It USED to feel like it mattered, GCD's that are not part of the combo always feel awkward to me. It always feels tacked on with no purpose so this and Sonic Break get forgotten by me all the time 😅

Any rewards for this?

@SpaceElvisInc

8 ай бұрын

the enjoyment of a good fight, so real rewards not really

@josephpiscitelli8053

8 ай бұрын

Fuax leaves?

@carbonide1290

8 ай бұрын

Don’t listen to the no real rewards comment. You do this every week for leaves that gets you expensive minions and mounts which equals massive gil every other month. Made a total of like 30 mill just passively doing Unreal weekly.

@PvtVallen

8 ай бұрын

No, not unless you consider gil a reward. You just do it twice a week for an average of maybe +-50 faux leaves per week, then when you get 600 you can get a mount to sell on MB for like 10m or something depending on server. This is why unreal is basically dead on arrival every patch. Lemme just grind my ass off doing some fight ive already done 5 years ago like 20 times to get 10m gil that I can throw on my pile of 500m unspent gil since theres nothing to use gil for.

@rinnnnnnnnnnrin

8 ай бұрын

​@@carbonide1290pog

Goring blade feels weird. -It’s not part of the main rotation -it’s an ocd of ….60 if I remember correctly -And its no longer a dot But it shares a cooldown with the main combo it’s like the physical version of scathe

@TheLogan1156

8 ай бұрын

Goring Blade doesn't share a cooldown with anything. You literally just use it every minute when FoF is up. I agree that it feels weird since 6.3, but it's not complicated.

@trustytrest

8 ай бұрын

It's more like a Sonic Break but without the DoT... even though Goring Blade was the DoT skill first...

@borgazar

8 ай бұрын

I like boring blade. I hope they don't remove it

Will a trial ever top Hades?

@albinaXIV

8 ай бұрын

Seat of sacrifice ex is pretty goated

@numenos3218

8 ай бұрын

It was n ok trial but not the best imo. SOS is far superior

@trustytrest

8 ай бұрын

Hades was pretty mid. Shinryu and Thordan both run circles around Hades.

@carbonide1290

8 ай бұрын

Hades??? You mean SoS? Shinyru? Hell even Cloud Deck Ex was more fun.

@KyvannShrike

8 ай бұрын

@@trustytrest Shinryu is way too slow to be considered good.

It's crazy how much better it is than like.... every EX the past three expansions.

Buhh

End game content for this game really look easy. Theres a metric ton of different mechs, but the time window for a reaction is extremely large. No wonder anyone with an addon or capable raid lead signaling them can clear easy, the muscle memory required seems close to none

@marslara

8 ай бұрын

Well it used to be a combination of trying to do your job well with the mechanics but this newest expac has really cut down on the skill ceiling in favour of being more newcomer friendly it feels like. Also this video in particular isn't even really endgame, it's like an 6-8 year old fight that's just scaled up to highest level and the jobs are completely different from back then. But yeah overall the game has gotten easier lately 🤷🏾‍♀️

How boring it must be to have someone on Discord spoiling all the mechanics.