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@PetraKann

10 ай бұрын

Have you seen this video on Pilot health and safety in the aviation industry? kzread.info/dash/bejne/gq1n0pecgLa_odY.html

@doubleg7257

10 ай бұрын

😅😅

@Great-Documentaries

10 ай бұрын

It is unfortunate that you are using last-gen flight sim technology. The low-poly models and dreadful scenery really lets down your presentation. MSFS has made us all expect better and your videos not only are behind the times when they are released, but will only be moreso with each passing year. And that's unfortunate since otherwise you may great documentaries. Please upgrade to a non-obsolete sim. Especially when the subject aircraft is something like an A320.

@PetraKann

10 ай бұрын

@@Great-Documentaries Apologise

@GlennDavey

9 ай бұрын

I totes smashed that like button and destroyed that bell and punched the subscribe button in its dumb face

In remembrance: Captain Iriyanto, 53 First Officer Rémi Emmanuel Plesel, 46 Flight Engineer Sayful Rakhmad, 38 Flight Attendant Khairunisa Haidar Fauzi, 22 Flight Attendant Wanti Setiawati, 30 Flight Attendant Oscar Desano, 26 Flight Attendant Wismoyo Ari Prambudi, 24 Zoe Man Suen Choi, 2 Chi-Man Choi, 48 Sutikno Sia, 60 Jou Christine Yuanita, 26 Jou Yongki, 53 Feilensia Sularmo Go Elizabeth Youvita, 20 Jou Brian Youvito, 19 Joe Jeng Fei, 48 Monica Anggraini Lee Kyung-hwa, 36 Park Seong-beom, 37 Park Yu-na, 11 months Alain Oktavianus Siauw, 27 Ong Angelina Edward Febriantus, 18 Sukiatma Haripin, 17 Andrian Noventus, 21 Denny Oktavianus Kevin Alexander Soetjipto, 22 Rudy Soetjipto, 54 Cindy Clarissa Soetjipto, 15 Lindawati Anggara Viona Florensa Abraham, 19 Natalina Wuntarjo, 33 William Wijaya, 8 Alfred Wijaya, 12 Marilyn Wijaya, 16 Eko Widjaja, 42 Susandhini Liman, 38 Jo Indri, 80 Christanto Leoma Hutama, 22 Indri Yani Fandi Santoso Martinus Djomi, 27 Ira Ratna Sari Kaylee C. Djomi Indar Prasetyo Wijaya Kwee Bob Hartanto Wijaya, 25 Ruth Natalia M. Puspitasari, 26 Maria Florentina Widodo, 26 Jie Stevie Gunawan, 10 Jie Charly Gunawan, 48 Kayla Audrey Gunawan, 7 Kenneth Matthew Gunawan, 10 Juliana Ho, 38 David Gunawan, 37 Meiji Thejakusuma, 45 Ratri Sri Andriani, 30 Nico Giovanni, 18 Samuel Joyo Sentoso The Darmaji, 67 Kartika Dewi Sukianto Monita Wahyuni Jauw Yonatan Sebastian Abdullah Muttaqin Bhima Aly Wicaksana, 31 Jessica Vera Chandra Kho, 19 Susiyah, 40 Yuni Astutik, 40 Yuni Indah, 27 Susilo Gani Hanny Suryaatmadja Djarot Biantoro, 53 Angeline Esther Emmanuel Adrian Fernando, 13 Lia Sari, 36 Mulya Hadikusuma Ranuwijaya, 35 Ernawati, 56 Kevin Biantoro, 17 Albertus Eka Sury Yulianto, 10 Stephanie Yulianto, 14 Vincencia Sri Andrijany, 44 Indra Yulianto, 51 Fransisca Lanny Winat Liem, 47 Jimmy Sentosa Winata Oei, 60 Subagio Prawira Harja, 31 Gani Chandra Boby Hartanto Winata, 13 Nanang Priyo Widodo, 44 Ingrid Jessica Winata, 9 Reggy Ardhi, 40 Hendra Gunawan Syawal, 23 David Hartono, 23 Jayden Cruz Ardhi Marianne Claudia Ardhi, 11 Michelle Clemency Ardhi, 13 Caroline Harwon Lioe Gusti Made Bobi Sidartha Donna Indah Nurwatie, 39 Gusti Atu Putriyan Permata, 16 Gusti Ayu Made Keisah Putri, 9 Djoko Satryo Tanoe Widjaja, 45 Sii Chung Huei, 56 Eny Wahyuni Andreas Widjaja, 30 Grayson Herbert Linaksita, 11 Kathleen Fulvia Linaksita Megawati, 42 Tony Linaksita, 42 Kristiyono Sulastri Felicia Sabrina Krisputra Sesha Aldi Krisputri, 15 Jie Steven Gunawan Ekawati Ligo Djoko Suseno, 43 Hayati Lutfiah Hamid, 40 Soemamik Saeran Pai Naura Kanita Rosada Suseno, 9 Bundi Su Steven Michael Ang Wirantono Kusumo Nelson Kusuma Anna Widyawati, 37 Jie Stephanie Gunawan, 21 Yenni Soewono, 38 Sharon Michelle Ang Andri Wijaya Poo, 37 Merry Herumanto Tanus, 44 Indahju Liangsih, 44 Justin Giovanni, 9 Juanita Limantara, 30 Lim Yan Koen, 61 Hindarto Halim, 61 Sri Linggarwati Karina Santoso Shiane Josal, 45 Ferny Yufina Pornomo Christien Aulia Pornomo Lanny Octavani Inda Diani Nikolas Theo Santoso Hendra Theodoros, 44 Raynaldi Theodoros Winoya Theodoros Thurza Aurelia, 12 Ang Mie Jong, 52 Lina Soeyanto Musaba Evientri Wahab Siti Romlah, 40 Jasmine Rose Ann Santiago, 15 Soesilo Utomo, 46 Suriani Usin Elbert Soesilo Marwin Sholeh, 50 Finna Handayani Rony Handoyo, 28 Kosuma Chandra Kho, 55 Sherlly Ong Aris Soetanto Linda Anggreni Oktaria Wen (Side note; I tried my best to find the ages of ALL the passengers, however I wasn’t currently able to. Multiple sources had slightly varying ages for quite a few of the passengers, shifting around a year, So a few might be off by a year or so. Apologies.)

@DisasterBreakdown

10 ай бұрын

Your comments are always welcome 💛

@CaptravelsAviation

10 ай бұрын

RIP all victims of this accident.😢😢

@randommadness1021

10 ай бұрын

Thanks for doing this. Think this is the first comment like this I have seen on an air accident video. Lots of folk seem to forget that these aren't just videos, lives were lost for people's "entertainment"

@azyanziyad1291

10 ай бұрын

Bro U are a Legend Litrally

@sunnyfon9065

10 ай бұрын

Flight Attendant Khairunnisa Haidar Fauzi was the first body to be recovered. One of her last Instagram posts was a photo of a paper sticking to the plane’s window (from inside the plane) while flying in day time. Written on the paper was, “I love you from 38000 ft.” This photo was not taken on board QZ8501, but the bizarre thing about this photo is that it was one of her last Instagram posts. Her ill-fated flight (QZ8501) climbed to 38,000 ft before entering a deep stall. I read this from some early news reports about the missing QZ8501. Edit: I found out that she posted this photo on Instagram 2 weeks prior to the crash. But still, this was one of her last Instagram posts.

Obviously there were technical factors, but the copilot immediately and completely abandoning all training and flying experience to hold the nose up despite a blaring stall warning and repeated 'down' commands from his captain make it hard not to put this one on pilot error

@Nautules83

10 ай бұрын

actually made me quite angry listening to his continuous utter failings

@D45VR

10 ай бұрын

AF447, same thing.

@AdrianColley

10 ай бұрын

Did the pilot in command ever say "my airplane", "à moi le commande", or anything similar?

@christopherpardell4418

10 ай бұрын

@@AdrianColleyNo. In a Boeing, you can FEEL if your co-pilot is yanking on the column because they are linked. In a panic the captain likely did not realize his copilot was yanking on the stick because of his long experience flying a Boeing. He was overwhelmed. But it does amaze me that the single most fundamental instruction pilots learn in flight school, what to do in a stall, keeps getting forgotten likely due to the automated systems that make such an experience so rare that they never actually get to practice those skills.

@dzimujikambarage9784

10 ай бұрын

Pilots seem to have forgotten how to fly in these automated planes that do all the work for them

This is probably the best layman approachable explanation of Airbus's Normal Law Operation on KZread.

@jt92

3 күн бұрын

;entour Pilot has very good explanation as well on his Air France 447 video

@ParticularCoconut

Күн бұрын

@@jt92 His explanation is better suited for folk's with a little bit of Aviation background. It better suits his audience compared to here.

My close friend nearly ended up on this flight. He had his leave denied, therefore was unable to board the flight. Sent chills down my spine when I heard that story.

@johnkern7075

9 ай бұрын

Lucky Man!

@michaelkenneth4520

8 ай бұрын

walaupun temennnya selamat gak jadi naik, pasti bakalan ninggalin trauma juga sih buat naik pesawat lagi

@vexile1239

2 ай бұрын

Did your friend guy up to his bosses and thanked them for saving his life by denying his request?

It's baffling to me that the FO's reaction to an upset was to just pull back on the stick and hold it there. Unless he lost instruments it seems like one glance at the artificial horizon would have shown him that he was doing the worst possible thing at the time. I can't fathom what he was attempting to address with that input.

@johnstuartsmith

9 ай бұрын

He was addressing the common but deadly instinct to pull back on the stick when he first saw he was losing altitude. Without enough airspeed, yanking back the stick would have put him into a stall. Without first leveling the wings, holding the stick back put him, his plane, and his passengers into a descending, tightening corkscrew spiral.

@orbitalpotato9940

9 ай бұрын

​@@johnstuartsmithHe's at like 35 thousand feet. A slight loss of altitude isnt going to change anything.

@johnstuartsmith

9 ай бұрын

@@orbitalpotato9940 A "slight loss of altitude " wouldn't have been a disaster, but he managed to lose all 35 thousand feet of it, which was.

@k53847

9 ай бұрын

This is exactly what Pierre-Cédric Bonin did on AF 447. With exactly the same result. I suspect it is not a coincidence that they both did the exact same thing in the same sort of situation. I suspect that in fact they were doing something that they were told to do in the Airbus type-rating course, which told them that they didn't have to worry about stalling because Airbus aircraft don't stall.

@CougarCat21

9 ай бұрын

@@k53847 So French pilots love to Pull Down on the stick?

Multiple factors went into this, but in reality, the First Officer blew it in every way conceivable.

@annnee6818

9 ай бұрын

And it's common. Every third episode of these seem to be a result of pilots stalling their planes😢

@ignatiusryd2031

9 ай бұрын

​@@annnee6818 This Air Asia crash and Air France crash on Atlantic Ocean had a very horrifying similarities since both were caused by the panic-stricken copilot 😢

@kevinmugi8811

9 ай бұрын

@@ignatiusryd2031 Both French co-pilots

@tomthomas1182

9 ай бұрын

As a high time retired flight instructor I found this to have been very well done. It is perhaps the best presentation of this type I have seen. Truly riveting from beginning to end.

@ripnob

9 ай бұрын

@@kevinmugi8811the damn french

That family of 10 are among the luckiest people in the world.

@randommadness1021

10 ай бұрын

Would've been great to hear their comments on this. Lucky, lucky family.

@errorcode6168

10 ай бұрын

Yeah, no shit. It's a shame this happened though. A small crack led to this chaos.

@theRealBrandonRoberts1990

10 ай бұрын

Bet they bought lottery tickets after this

@zarbon700

10 ай бұрын

Being late was their lottery ticket.

@BenoitRAG3

10 ай бұрын

Dunno being a trump and being related to Jesus is pretty lucky

my dad's student lost her entire family from this crash, she's studying in Singapore and her family wanted to visit her for Christmas and New Year holiday

painfully similar to that of Air France 447, R.I.P. to all those killed, 2014 wasn't a good year for airlines with MH370 and MH17 and now this

@D45VR

10 ай бұрын

F/O pulling back on side-stick while captain trying to push the nose down. Did Plesel & Bonin go to same flight school?

@StellaMurano

10 ай бұрын

It's horrible it happened twice - hopefully never again!

@gaztastic

10 ай бұрын

This happened because in both instances, the flight augmentation computers that were supposed to keep the aircraft from stalling were in a degraded state for more or less the same amount of time. Both times, the pilot flying tried to correct the aircraft's course but overcompensated for it because of the sensitivity of the controls, leading to a stall. Airbus planes really seem to have an issue with that...

@crypton5344

10 ай бұрын

2014 also witnessed plane crashes in Iran, Algeria and taiwan

@fumblingdetective

10 ай бұрын

​@@D45VRAnd with both of these crews absolute breakdown of the CRM management. This alone could have save their lives.

The fact doesn't get into my head that the co-pilot completely forgets what he ever learned in flight school and consistently pulls the side stick despite the warnings. He had one task and that was to read the artificial horizon, nothing more...

@Phiyedough

9 ай бұрын

Yes, I was wondering what he was looking at.

@AaronHarberg

9 ай бұрын

He completely lost his head and panicked due to startle factor, Captain should have called My Controls!

@adrianishtar0

9 ай бұрын

@@AaronHarbergYeah and if that didn’t work he should have taken a fire extinguisher to the copilot’s head

@DaWrecka

9 ай бұрын

@@AaronHarbergAnd not yelled contradictory instructions like "Pull down!". And taken over control of the plane using the button on the sidestick *which is there for exactly that purpose*. Yes, he pressed it, but he didn't use it properly.

@esecallum

9 ай бұрын

The other guy should have punched him and knocked him out.

I am a huge advocate for the idea that every pilot in the world MUST earn their wings on small planes like Cessna 172 or similar.

@heart_break1

10 ай бұрын

Not sure that would help, modern airliners are extremely automated, specially Airbus and it's lack of physical feedback. Then you have some airlines that forbid pilots from flying manual during cruise (unless it's an emergency). All this automation and lack of real flying leads to complacency, and complacency kills. The only type of pilot capable of reacting to anything is a test pilot, but test flights are short so although they're stressful and intense, it's not exhausting.

@peteconrad2077

10 ай бұрын

They do.

@bobkile9734

9 ай бұрын

@@peteconrad2077 not always. Namely, airlines that exclusively fly airbus.

@bobkile9734

9 ай бұрын

@@heart_break1 i think it would help immensely. Sure, there is no force feedback, but what is there is theory, call-> response, the “what happens when i do X” crafting. It’s like riding a bike before riding a riding a motorcycle.

@peteconrad2077

9 ай бұрын

@@bobkile9734 sorry but that’s absolute bollox.

This reminds me so much of what happened with Air France 447. Something recoverable like a stall turning to a complicated situation because of lack of communication between the pilot and co pilot

@ronaldsmith4153

9 ай бұрын

Air France 447 remained in a stall all the way down and in spite of all of the plane's sophisticated equipment. Seat of the pants training would have saved the plane.

@user-nu1sq2fz8s

Ай бұрын

​@ronaldsmith4it the captain was missing153

I personally know the family of 10 that fortunately evaded this tragic incident. They consider themselves very lucky and I notice their change in behaviour. It really is shocking when I first learned about it but I am glad that they are safe, I haven't been in contact with them for a while thoigh hope they are doing well.

Captain Iriyanto without explaining his plan to First Officer Plesel, he reached up to the overhead panel and pulled both circuit breakers for FAC 1. As soon as he did so, FAC 1 lost power, triggering the master caution light again, and a “FAC 1 FAULT” message appeared on the ECAM. Iriyanto pushed the FAC 1 circuit breakers back in, then went to find the breakers for FAC 2. First Officer Plesel, meanwhile, is thought to have diverted his attention to the ECAM screen, which now displayed numerous fault messages, including “AUTO FLT AP OFF” (autopilot off) and “F/CTL ALTN LAW (PROT LOST)” (flight control alternate law [protection lost]). An errant RUDDER INPUT sent the plane rolling to the left at a rate of six degrees per second, and with no computer control over the rudder, only the pilots could stop it. Amid the chaos, it took nine seconds for First Officer Plesel to realize that the plane was rolling rapidly to the left. By the time he grabbed his side stick to take manual control, the aircraft had reached 54 degrees of bank, far outside the normal operating envelope. Startled by the massive, unexpected upset, he wrenched his side stick as far to the right as it would go, and the left bank reduced to 9 degrees in just two seconds. This even faster roll only deepened his disorientation, and he immediately countered again, sending the plane back to 53 degrees left. Plesel tried to roll to the right again, but at the same time he tensed up and pulled back hard on his side stick, sending the plane into a steep climb. Because Iriyanto was Indonesian, and Plesel was French, they could only communicate in basic airman’s English, and their repertoire of non-standard phrases was probably limited. And so, at the moment when he needed to urge Plesel to push the nose down, what came out of his mouth was something else entirely: “Pull down.”. What wasn't said in this video was that when Plesel first heard the STALL warning, he started to push FORWARD on his stick to bring the NOSE DOWN, and for ONE SECOND the stall warning actually stopped, as his inputs began to have an effect. But before he could get far, he heard Captain Iriyanto yelling at him to “pull down,” and he reversed his input. Unfortunately, Plesel concluded that Iriyanto wanted him to pull back on his stick, so he did - all the way. Captain Iriyanto grabbed his own side stick in a attempt to recover control. He rolled right to level the wings and pushed the nose forward to reduce the angle of attack, but he left out one critical step - he forgot to announce, "I HAVE CONTROL”. Iriyanto could also have locked Plesel out of the controls by holding down his “SIDE STICK PRIORITY” button, but he never did, either because he didn’t know Plesel was pulling up, didn't hold the button for 40 sec (which is very stupid, alot of situations in aircraft can happen in couple of seconds, so holding down button for 40 sec seems excessive), or because it failed to occur to him amid the chaos on the flight deck.

@XVENDETTA100

9 ай бұрын

The problem is the working culture : seniority culture There are strong reasons why it takes two pilot rather than 1 no matter how sophisticated the manufacturer can make the airplane that contains living passenger... It's about solving the problem TOGETHER and when i say TOGETHER there is a equality power relation in discussion no matter what rank they are bearing each other Sure, seniority has a good side, because we cant deny and reject the fact that experience could make change.... But never forget, "error" was a part of human existential at the very basic of their nature....no matter how rational they can be...but they are still species in animalia kingdom.... there is a moment and there is SHOULD BE a moment when they cant use their "unique brain component" properly, from drunkard that rape his own daughter to the pilot who suddenly fly like 5 years old kid on airplane in carnaval's merry go round....

@Keepone974

8 ай бұрын

Mmmh so everyone bashing the FO might not be exactly right, as the captain had extremely poor communication even when the FO did the right thing... Interesting, and frightening how such sequence of events and things going wrong can happen.

@PInk77W1

8 ай бұрын

“He didn’t know” AF447 the captain didn’t know the FO had the Joy stick all the way back too. Horrible design

@F.A.S.D

7 ай бұрын

This was a communication error for sure, had his FO an Indonesian he would've spoke the order clearly. What you need to know is that in emergency and very dire situation you would already be very exhausted in trying to focus to the surrounding and how you handle the emergency. It only make sense that he forgot his English speaking especially if he's not that fluent, because its just too much concentration to put onto when you already have something way more important to focus.

@tlevans62

7 ай бұрын

Poor CRM, poor phraseology, and a former fighter pilot in charge, not used to having a crew to communicate with. A first officer with very little hand flying skills. Airbus fly by wire with no control “feel”. Recipe for disaster.

Planes and spacecraft are among the things where the troubleshooting method „have you tried turning it off and on again“ is ill-advised in flight.

@davidpando7970

9 ай бұрын

IF space was real you mean

@Canleaf08

8 ай бұрын

@@davidpando7970 Space is real.

@IHaveAFatherButHesAbroad

8 ай бұрын

​@@davidpando7970space is real

@kind2rethink

Ай бұрын

​@@davidpando7970😂😂😂what😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

@christerry1773

27 күн бұрын

Um that literally is a correct procedure in many circumstances. Learn a thing or two

AF447 all over again. First officer panicks and crashes the plane.

@Nocgirl

9 ай бұрын

yep.....neither pilot acted correctly to get out of a stall and continued to pull up. That is what caused AF447 to crash and this was almost the same scenario....didnt these pilots learn anything from that? The AF447 flight is used alot in trainings....a complete disaster that could have easily been avoided. The cockpit had plenty of time to save that plane. No communication. And you do not point the nose up to get out of a stall. Sad learning experience here.

@tjroelsma

9 ай бұрын

@@Nocgirl Especially the really experienced Captain's actions are baffling, even if you ignore him pulling those fuses. The moment he was back in his seat he should have shouted "My plane" or "Pilot's plane", ordering the co-pilot to let go of his controls. Instead, he failed to re-assert his command and therefore doomed the plane.

@milindketkar9059

9 ай бұрын

And both planes were Airbus. That's why Boeing is the best

@DioTheGreatOne

9 ай бұрын

​@@milindketkar9059 You mean the company that just "forgot" to tell pilots about the MCAS and caused the deaths of over 350 people?

@Brian-kl1zu

6 ай бұрын

Flight 8501/AF 447: Both crash circumstances are similar in some ways. However; On Air France 447; the captain was taking rest-time in a crew bunk; while the guy in the right seat was trying to fly the airbus into outer space. The captain reentered the cockpit; just as the ocean was about to take their lives. "This can't be happening!" (I believe those were the captain's last words; not those of the other two men.)

I’ve watched a lot disaster videos and yours are some of the best out there! The pacing is fantastic, the narration is flawless- haven’t heard a single mispronunciation- and the combination of animation and still photos is hypnotic… Thank you for all your hard work. It shows in the final product, every time. 👍🏻👍🏻❤️❤️

@DisasterBreakdown

10 ай бұрын

Thank you for your kind words, I'm glad you like the content : )

@how_about_naw

10 ай бұрын

💯 There are some videos I find have topics I should be very interested in, but they're just done in such a way that they're really hard to follow or they feel like they last a lifetime when in reality it's only 15 minutes long. This channel seems to have it figured out, perfect balance of information density and explanations, pacing, smooth and flawless narration, maintaining visual interest, and sensitivity because of the subject matter. The move to long form has been just amazing too ❤

@jaws848

9 ай бұрын

​@@DisasterBreakdownyou should become an air crash investigator,Chloe

@user-kc1tf7zm3b

9 ай бұрын

@@DisasterBreakdown At the time it the tragic mishap in December 2014, Australian air safety experts naturally gave a lot of commentary of the event in the local Australian media. This is to be expected as Indonesia is Australia’s neighbour to the north. One Australian expert said point blank on camera, on the record, that he had no faith whatsoever with the professionalism of the South East Asian carriers, as their standards, practices and norms are nowhere near Western standards. These flag carriers from poor developing countries reflect the national societies that they serve. He stated that he would not be confident in having his family fly with these Asian low cost carriers at all. Everything is relative. There is always a wider context with these major events.

@user-nu1sq2fz8s

Ай бұрын

​@@user-kc1tf7zm3bhe is right but these things happen everywhere. Look what Boeing did last few years

My dad was an FO in Air Asia when this happened. I remember him being out of the house and coming home late almost daily when the flight went missing.

@user-kc1tf7zm3b

9 ай бұрын

The European narrator misses the very heart of the matter: Indonesia is a poor and developing South East Asian country where standards, norms and practices across all aspects of society are commensurably lax. This also explains the wholly avoidable and horrific twin Malaysia Airlines disasters in 2014. Between 2007 to 2009, Garuda Indonesia, and all other Indonesian carriers, were banned from entering all European Union nations due to lack of confidence with Indonesian air safety, standards and practices. Australia is just south of Indonesia and of SE Asia. Yet, Australian civil society is on a totally different level. This explains why Qantas is almost never spoken of with these air crash investigations documentaries. Australian pilots leave their amateurish SE Asian counterparts for dead, as all Australian pilots care about is safety. In Australian aviation, nothing else matters. Safety. 🦘🇦🇺

@hakanevin8545

9 ай бұрын

@@user-kc1tf7zm3b First officer who caused the crash was a French national educated in France. He wasn't Indonesian. He could have been working in Qantas too. It is true that Indonesian aviation had a bad reputation before 2010, but in many incidents weather conditions also had a contributing factor. Java Sea is very dangerous.

@user-kc1tf7zm3b

9 ай бұрын

@@hakanevin8545 Get bloody real! You are not Australian at all, as you are full of excuses. Australians only care about achievable results. This explains the near flawless safety record of Qantas. This also extends to the wider Australian society, which given our modest population of only 25 million, we have the most prosperous, productive and robust economy in the Southern Hemisphere. This also explains why the United States trusts Australia with their most sensitive military weapons platforms, the F-35 Lightning II fighter jets and the nuclear powered Virginia-class submarines. Qantas naturally flies extensively throughout South East and East Asia. Yet, the Australian flag carrier does not have the entirely avoidable failures of their Asian counterparts of the past 30 years. At the end of the day, it all comes down to professionalism, standards and attitude. And you wonder why Australian has won a staggering 170 Olympic gold medals, which includes the Winter Olympics. On the other hand, our neighbours to the north have next to nothing to show for their sporting achievements. Our neighbours are lazy, apathetic and lack a certain direction. There is no comparison whatsoever with Australia and our neighbours to the north, which are for all intents and purposes, banana republics mostly ruled by dictators. Coming back to the airline in question, Indonesia Air Asia, the carrier is obviously Indonesian, which has its headquarters near Jakarta. The carrier is most definitely Indonesian, no matter which way you slice and dice the matter.

@user-kc1tf7zm3b

9 ай бұрын

@@hakanevin8545 Most French and Turkish pilots do not have what it takes to be Australian Qantas pilots. You have have no idea whatsoever how exacting the standards are at Qantas Jet Base Mascot. 🦘🇦🇺

@IHaveAFatherButHesAbroad

8 ай бұрын

​@@user-kc1tf7zm3bjit trippin-

These videos got me into aviation, somehow informative and also relatively easy to understand to somebody who’s been watching for 2 weeks It’s incredible Also I do understand the irony of plane crashes getting me into aviation

@DisasterBreakdown

10 ай бұрын

Thank you for watching!

@conny.rapp.tattoo

10 ай бұрын

Same here, been scared to death now Private Pilot Training and about to continue to ATPL

@darthsmack7090

8 ай бұрын

It was the disaster videos from mentour pilot that finally sent me over to learning how to fly on Microsoft Flight Simulator. Now that I have much heightened technical knowledge I can better understand the circumstances behind these crashes and honestly its scary how so many of these could have been avoided from simple competent operation by the pilots.

Show of hands: How many of you non-pilots know to push the nose of a plane down when you get a stall warning?

@nian60

10 ай бұрын

I know that the nose should be pushed down. But I would never have known that if I hadn't watched every episode of Mayday. No idea why trained pilots get this wrong though.

@wilsjane

10 ай бұрын

The stall warning gives you a safety margin, so, nose slightly down and throttles up, while flying straight and level minus a few feet. Then follow the instruments, taking care not to end up in a steep dive and/or overspeed, which can be equally dangerous. Needless to say, you then need to ask yourself, how you got into that situation i the first place.

@ingridclare7411

10 ай бұрын

I know. And look at speed as well.

@protodvd

10 ай бұрын

...yes, but only through an aviation disaster video habit.

@teamofsteve

10 ай бұрын

I’m not saying would know what to do, but I would certainly know not to climb. Surely just trying to level everything out is the best course of action. Crappy instruction from the captain though.

I'm Indonesian Singaporean. My family were supposed to take this flight back to Singapore from Surabaya. We live in Malang Regency, East Java. My mom told us that she wanted to extend our stay in Malang, and she had cancelled this flight. When we saw the news we were all stunned and shocked... We avoided death.

@user-kc1tf7zm3b

9 ай бұрын

The European narrator misses the very heart of the matter: Indonesia is a poor and developing South East Asian country where standards, norms and practices across all aspects of society are commensurably lax. This also explains the wholly avoidable and horrific twin Malaysia Airlines disasters in 2014. Between 2007 to 2009, Garuda Indonesia, and all other Indonesian carriers, were banned from entering all European Union nations due to lack of confidence with Indonesian air safety, standards and practices. Australia is just south of Indonesia and of SE Asia. Yet, Australian civil society is on a totally different level. This explains why Qantas is almost never spoken of with these air crash investigations documentaries. Australian pilots leave their amateurish SE Asian counterparts for dead, as all Australian pilots care about is safety. In Australian aviation, nothing else matters. Safety. 🦘🇦🇺

@IHaveAFatherButHesAbroad

8 ай бұрын

​@@user-kc1tf7zm3bthis is the most patriotic Austrilan ive even seen.

@violet7773

7 ай бұрын

​@@user-kc1tf7zm3b if you didn't intend for this to be extremely racist, you failed miserably. What a disgraceful way to react to a tragic loss of life

@user-kc1tf7zm3b

7 ай бұрын

@@violet7773 Tough bloody luck. In Australia, all that matters are objective results. But, in South East Asia, matters are far more lax to the point of apathy. This explains the great many of man made disasters in the region. When you fly in Australia, the airline captain only cares about landing safely at your destination. Nothing else. If he feels this cannot be achieved, the flight will be cancelled.

@kami_narisama

7 ай бұрын

​@@user-kc1tf7zm3byou miss the fact that one of the Malaysian Airlines' accident is literally because their plane get fucking shot down by a group of militia who've mistaken it for a military airplane. But sure! Let's be racist about it! The ban on European soil for Indonesian's flight had been lifted years ago, and there rarely has been a Boeing airline accidents in SEA recently, minus a private jet accident in Malaysia few months ago. Majority of SEA's country are former colonized countries, same as Australia. Difference is that the colonizer decided to settle in Australia and prospered there, while in SEA, after they had had enough of the natural resources, they left, be it forcefully or on their own. That's why your colonizer ass can prosper, because virtually zero of the people there is a native of the land. Your xenophobic thinking is full of ignorance and unintelligent information. America have tons of airlines accidents as well, are you gonna say they're also less superior compared to Australia?

My friend and his family were on this flight. A week before this incident, I suddenly dreamed of him. And for a week, I always thought of him. This baffles me because I haven't spoken to him in a long time either via social media or anything. "Why?" I asked myself. After all my friends made a fuss about this incident on Facebook, I was shocked.

It's baffling to me how incompetent that FO was. It's as if he lost all the training and experience he had accumulated all those years in that moment. But then you add the fact the captain had 20k hours of experience and didn't step in immediately to fix the issue, but also was the one who caused it in the first place, instead of continuing to follow the proper instructions on the ECAM. Unbelievable.

@peteconrad2077

9 ай бұрын

It’s a well understood condition.

@Mr_Bones.

9 ай бұрын

This type of accident has happened about 4 times that I know of, and for the life of me I can’t understand why the captain didn’t reach over and punch the FO. The dude is clearly in a trance pulling back on the control stick causing the stall. If the captain would have physically stopped his control, they would all be alive. I rather catch a battery charge than become ashes.

@Aethelhald

9 ай бұрын

Reminds me of Pierre Bonin from that other flight, who had the stick back the whole time as the plane stalled all the way down into the ocean.

@user-cr4sc1ht9t

9 ай бұрын

It's as if these pilots pulling sticks in stalls shouldn't have been in the seats. I guess there are reasons it happens, but why...

@peteconrad2077

9 ай бұрын

@@Mr_Bones. I’m only aware of this particular set of circumstances happening twice in recent years.

I'm not willing to be so charitable towards the captain and first officer. Despite everything you fly the aircraft first, the first officer was seemingly incompetent and the captain should have called out that he was taking control.

@PJay-wy5fx

9 ай бұрын

Agreed, very bad CRM, esp. since it was as recently as 2014.

@Karma2Babylon

9 ай бұрын

The Capt repeating “pull down!” “pull down!” to the first officer. So first officer obliged.

@user-kc1tf7zm3b

9 ай бұрын

The European narrator misses the very heart of the matter: Indonesia is a poor and developing South East Asian country where standards, norms and practices across all aspects of society are commensurably lax. This also explains the wholly avoidable and horrific twin Malaysia Airlines disasters in 2014. Between 2007 to 2009, Garuda Indonesia, and all other Indonesian carriers, were banned from entering all European Union nations due to lack of confidence with Indonesian air safety, standards and practices. Australia is just south of Indonesia and of SE Asia. Yet, Australian civil society is on a totally different level. This explains why Qantas is almost never spoken of with these air crash investigations documentaries. Australian pilots leave their amateurish SE Asian counterparts for dead, as all Australian pilots care about is safety. Australian carriers hold their pilots to Western standards. And then some. Safety. Nothing else matters. 🦘🇦🇺

@xx5949

8 ай бұрын

I think the first officer just got into frozen state, he probably did not even realize he was pulling back. He should never operate any critical machine actually. I think the first qualifying test should be how person deal with stress. I bet most pilots in the industry will actually fail. This is unfortunate truth.

@user-kc1tf7zm3b

8 ай бұрын

@@xx5949 The Indonesians are painfully mediocre. It is as simple as that.

I remember seeing the footage of the wreckage being pulled out... oh man, some of the bodies were still strapped to their seat. there were some parts where the bodies and the wreckage became one.

@ingridclare7411

10 ай бұрын

Gross. Should never have been shown. Seriously.

@sunnyfon9065

10 ай бұрын

There’s even a picture of passenger’s skeletonized head. Yes, it’s from QZ8501. I found that photo in Quora topic about how dead bodies looked after the plane crashes.

@ignatiusryd2031

9 ай бұрын

​@@ingridclare7411 At first the local tv news channels shown live broadcast the process of lifting the wreckage from the sea believing that the any human remains in the plane would be all long gone drifting in sea current or eaten by sharks that roams the sea nearby, but at the end of the day they censored the broadcast twice, at first when the lifting cable snapped and the second when rescuers find some of the bodies still in mashed up on the wreckages.

@heinzriemann3213

9 ай бұрын

​@@sunnyfon9065finally some photos! Thanks for that.

@AaronHarberg

9 ай бұрын

There was a body intact with clothes on but a clean white skull, all of his scalp and facial skin was gone. Horrific sight.

havent finished but this is one of the best channels you really put tv documentaries to shame this is amazing!

@DisasterBreakdown

10 ай бұрын

Thank you for your kind words!

Pilot: "Pushing the nose up to 50 degrees will solve that "stall warning" error message that won't STFU." So much incompetence in a short period of time.

I profoundly enjoy everything about your videos. A serious and factual tone, not afraid to break into irony or humour on occassion, and with perfect pacing. It's easy to try and speed up when things start to get longer but you keep it succint without being rushed. You can really tell that you put a lot of work into everything else too, with well thought-out music and great audio quality, as well as the great simulator footage and montage, and on-screen sources for absolutely everything. Awesome attention to detail all-around. Great job, Chloe!

THIS IS BY FAR the best video on Air Asia 8501 on KZread or anywhere. Thanks for this detailed video on Air Asia 8501. I enjoy it greatly. Worth the 42 minutes. Btw for anyone wondering about the sidestick priority logic, you get immediate priority after you push the button on the stick after half a second. However you need to keep it pressed for 40 seconds to latch the priority before you can let go, otherwise you'll lose the priority and return to the dual input situation. That said, the Airbus fly by wire (FBW) in my view contributed to this disaster, just like it did with Air France 447, and I'm not talking about the unlinked sidesticks, which allows easy dual control with no feedback to one another, worsened with a cancelled (not suppressed)dual input warning system when the stall warning sounds, like with this flight. The Airbus FBW system is flight path stable, C* FBW. Vertical flight path changes (nose up inputs) by the sidesticks are maintained by the autotrimming of the horizontal stabilizer in both normal and alternate law. Unfortunately Airbus thought it was a good idea to have autotrim in alternate law where there is no angle of attack protection (stall protection). This meant the first officer's nose up inputs were maintained by the FBW system effortlessly instead of nosing over like would have happened in a conventional aircraft or a C*U speed stable aircraft like the 777, 787 or A220 for example. There is low speed stability for alternate law in the A320 where a nose down input is introduced prior to stalling but that is easily overridden by nose up sidestick inputs, which as you note, receives no force feedback, so it would have been no issue to pull back on the stick. No artificial force feedback also means the light sidestick spring tension remains the same for all airspeeds, flight conditions and regardless of flight control law change with change. The sidesticks would have been easy to pull by a stressed out first officer, with no strong artificial feel force with those higher speeds or manual trimming to deal with, thanks to the autotrim. Conventional aircraft or C*U FBW aircraft with artificial force feedback and manual trimming meant it would not have been so easy to maintain nose up from panic or stress in such situations and the horizontal would not have moved to maintain nose up inputs without the pilot consciously flicking the trim switch to trim it. Of course none of this guarantees the first officer would have stopped his deadly nose up inputs, but it MAY have made him think twice and stop, preventing the accident. Lastly, the audible stall warning is inferior to the stick shaker. When under stress, like Mentour Pilot said on his Air France 447 video, one of the first things to go is your hearing. So it's possible this first officer did not hear the stall warning sounding. A stick shaker may have been better here. These are the reasons I believe a conventional or C*U may have stood a better chance of not being stalled, thus no accident had one been used for this flight instead. Of course, no guarantee but anything to help the pilots return the plane to normal flying attitude is appreciated.

honestly, I think this is the most terrifying analysis you've ever done. I mean that in a good way! the sheer amount of information, the accuracy of the normal law explanation, the reality of the first officer's actions during shock, everything was so well explained, I really felt the gravity of everything. your quality has been improving so rapidly

Crazy what panic could do to a person. Given its very dark, in the middle of the ocean and thick clouds, I am surprised the FO didnt use his FD to level the plane. He was pretty much using his “sense”, VFR is not even possible that high

French first officers can’t fly a plane for just one minute in ALT LAW without stalling it. The flying industry have problem if the pilots can’t aviate instead of just watching computers. Thank you Chloe for a superb video!

@user-to7ds6sc3p

10 ай бұрын

Hearing about the first officers actions was really frustrating. Just from watching Disaster Breakdown and Mentour Pilot, I know that Pilots should immediately pull the nose down if a stall warning occours.

@zestyquestman8378

10 ай бұрын

​@@user-to7ds6sc3pnot only are they taught that, but they practice stall and deep stall recoveries. it is frightening that there are fully certified crews that do not know how to recover from a stall at FL380

@clpthegamer3129

10 ай бұрын

recovering from a stall is something every pilot should know, its basic training, i blame the french for having a lack of english understanding, to this day french ATC and Pilots talk in french and will only switch to english if "forced" to do so, the same issue happens in Asian Countries, which have a simmilar bad rep when it comes to understanding communication

@clpthegamer3129

9 ай бұрын

@@bfa-xi1py to be bluntly, French is hard and quirky language while English and even Spanish are much easier to learn and understand

@clpthegamer3129

9 ай бұрын

@@bfa-xi1py the nose, PULL DOWN THE NOSE... the alarm goes "woop woop PULL UP woop woop" for a reason, its not talking about the guys pants, i'm going out on a limb here and assume you speak french... fix how you do math first and then we can talk about "Nasty Languages" on top of that i'm not sure how good both Pilots english comprehension was anyway....

You showed the ECAM with the proper alternate law message but the PFD indications later in the video still show normal law indications (green lines instead of amber x's on the sides of the attitude indicator, 30 degree pitch marker, and -15 degree pitch marker.) So in the future I would recommend turning off both FAC's if you are recording airbus clips in alternate law. You can also turn off 2 or more ADR's (I recommend ADR 2 and 3 so the captain's PFD still has data) via the pushbuttons. But nevertheless, the video quality is still great, and better than before. Good job.

It's a small thing but I appreciate how you put little on-screen shout-outs to the background music credits! (And I very much appreciate your choice of background music--appropriate without being too cheesy or too on the nose.) Another great video, Chloe. I always know I'm in for an interesting 30-60 minutes when you upload, and I always seem to learn at least one small new thing even if I'm very familiar with the accident in question.

The quality of these videos just keeps going up. The panning through the cockpit on the 3D model during the flight crew intros was a nice touch, more active than slide shows of images. Some creators just have a knack for making well structured content which is information dense but not strenuous to watch, if that makes sense? You definitely have that talent.

Sounds like the FO brain was shocked into a factory reset judging by him reverting to his native language and kept pulling on the sidestick. People can receive as much training as they like, but sometimes when things happen unexpectly in real life, your mind freezes/goes blank. The captain's instructions was contradicting too. The captain should have yelled "Controls to me!" as he seemed to understand more of what was happening. But as a pilot, the first officer should have known what to do in that situation. Easier said than done though as this isn't the first accident of this type.

@thewhitefalcon8539

10 ай бұрын

I think standard is "my aircraft"/"your aircraft"

@Redbikemaster

7 ай бұрын

​@@thewhitefalcon8539"my controls/your controls" is what I was taught but I'm not a pro

@Michael-lg4wz

Ай бұрын

I wonder if years of boring pushing buttons flying airbus not cessna dulled the brain

It’s coincidence that QZ8501 met a similar fate as AF447 5 years later, and just like the AF447’s co-pilot, QZ8501’s co-pilot was also French. I was 7 years old when this happened and I remember all the news (in Japan) show an animation of an AirAsia A320 nosediving in the storm. For whatever reason, I guessed the plane was struck by lightning, and it killed all the occupants on board and the plane just dropped powerless. But of course, now I know what happened to this flight.

@escapetheratracenow9883

10 ай бұрын

Seventeen incidents including three horrific disasters were the result of blocked pitot tubes. You'd think pilots would have learned what symptoms to look for and take the appropriate action....

@fruitygranulizer540

4 ай бұрын

​@@escapetheratracenow9883you'd think someone with thousands of hours of flight experience wouldn't pull up on the stick when hearing a stall warning... that's such a fundamental mistake it baffles me. if there weren't events leading up to it, i would have even thought this was suicide somehow, because i cannot understand how disoriented you'd have to be to keep pulling up in a stall... 100% of the fault goes on the F/O

@escapetheratracenow9883

4 ай бұрын

@@fruitygranulizer540 Over 65 Stall warnings and still the co-pilot pulls back on the stick, and even admits to the other flight crew that he had as the GPWS warning sounded. Bit late for that, you incompetent oaf! And the captain's last words after this shocking admission? "Ten degree pitch angle" I'd have had something a bit more profound to say to the idiot who's just killed me!

This one honestly made my heart race so hard during that period before the incident. I do not see how this one was not attributed to pilot error, however. Clearly more mechanical work was needed before this was put back into service. But it seems all systems were functioning as desired during the fatal moments and it was a terribly disoriented FO causing all the issues. Maybe the pilot should have yelled at the FO to just hand over control? Lots of those videos make me wish I could go back to these moments and help rectify the issues. Very well done video, Chloe!

I was working in Airport Ops at Singapore Changi Airport when this incident happened. Woke up that Sunday morning to 10 missed calls and text messages from work about the flight having missed its arrival time at SIN. When my father sent me to the airport to report for emergency duty, I remember telling him this was probably going to be on the news within hours. This happened just 9 months after and within close proximity to MH370 disappearing, so that was our first fear. We were in charge of handling ops and logistics for the passengers' next-of-kin in Singapore and keeping them safe from the media's prying eyes. When the plane was found on the 3rd day, I'll never forget the screams and wails from the family members in the holding area. There was a woman quietly sobbing in a corner and I later found out her husband and 2 year old daughter had been on the plane. Her image still sticks with me to this day. 2014 was a terrible year for aviation. I think about this flight from time to time even though I've since left the aviation industry. May all the passengers of QZ8501 rest in peace.

@user-kc1tf7zm3b

9 ай бұрын

The European narrator misses the very heart of the matter: Indonesia is a poor and developing South East Asian country where standards, norms and practices across all aspects of society are commensurably lax. This also explains the wholly avoidable and horrific twin Malaysia Airlines disasters in 2014. Between 2007 to 2009, Garuda Indonesia, and all other Indonesian carriers, were banned from entering all European Union nations due to lack of confidence with Indonesian air safety, standards and practices. Australia is just south of Indonesia and of SE Asia. Yet, Australian civil society is on a totally different level. This explains why Qantas is almost never spoken of with these air crash investigations documentaries. Australian pilots leave their amateurish SE Asian counterparts for dead, as all Australian pilots care about is safety. In Australian aviation, nothing else matters. Safety. 🦘🇦🇺

@bytesizedkidgamer

8 ай бұрын

@@user-kc1tf7zm3bjust casually forget about Singapore Airlines i guess 😂

@user-kc1tf7zm3b

8 ай бұрын

@@bytesizedkidgamer God Almighty! If a comprehensive catalogue of past Asian carrier failures, crashes and disasters was discussed, we would be here all day.

@IHaveAFatherButHesAbroad

8 ай бұрын

​@@user-kc1tf7zm3bYes, safety is important. But, everything happens for a reason. Qantas, probably has really good maintance or something. On the other hand, other airlines could have bad maintance, or could crash due to pilot error. There are so many things that could haopen. Like, bad weather. I would like to say, Qantas is a really good airline. I would love to fly on it one day. Except im not Australian. So, i understand your 'thing' or whatever you call it. Safety is very important and developing is needed, but airlines can't make money with grounded planes. I apologize because I am not trying to start a fight/argue thing. Cheers!

@user-kc1tf7zm3b

8 ай бұрын

@@IHaveAFatherButHesAbroad As a matter of fact, my friend’s father was the chief of all Qantas maintenance at Jet Base Sydney. I know the psyche of Qantas engineers, pilots and management. To put it bluntly, how European, American and Asian airlines conduct their businesses is just not good enough Down Under. Australians are truly fanatical. The English will promptly attest to this whenever the Commonwealth Games come around every 4 years.

Thank you, Chloe, for another incredibly thorough and detailed analysis. This is why I like your channel so much. You are able to go into much detail in your analyses, while avoiding the pratfalls of getting so technical that you lose anyone who is not an engineer. There are some other channels that suffer from this. It is clear how much research and effort you put into producing these videos. So kudos to you and I shall continue to look forward to your excellent work. Cheers from Canada!

Chloe isdoing the Gods work here. She is such a great aviation and other transport options breakdown analysis. One of the subs I will have notification bells on., would love her to get her million one day soon. Her standards and research into these disaster breakdown series have been incredible to watch and have grown and grown in production value since the start,

This is seriously one of the best videos you've done yet. You've covered this event really well, and thank you so much!

Yet again another AMAZING disaster breakdown. I really love how you tie everything together with examples. This is TOP NOTCH material, basically TV series quality! Thank you so much and keep up the good work!

Thank you, beautifully done! I absolutely loooove these longer videos, please keep doing them. And don't worry about them taking longer to make, they're always worth the wait!

I can tell you spent a lot of time on this one. such a great job at making a complicated situation understandable. you have a gift. thank you. may they rest in peace

I'm two minutes in and I already know this is going to be yet another detailed and perfectly executed video. This level of work is on a par with 60 minutes and national geographic in my book.

absolutely amazing, AMAZING quality. you outdid yourself, this is so cool, to have seen your videos become full scale documentaries with pleasing and fitting and accurate visuals. You're doing such huge work, this is what i come to youtube for

It’s a worry on Airbus planes whether the Pilots are trained to fly in Alternate Law modes regularly. Normal Law for 99.999% of the time must breed complacency.

@yungamurai

10 ай бұрын

Good point, it’s a difficult scenario to say what is right, the chances of your average Airbus pilot operating within Alternate Law is infinitesimal. However just like dual engine failure or hydraulic failure it does occur, so I’d like to know the airman can safely control the aircraft in Alternate Law.

@99domini99

10 ай бұрын

@@yungamuraiI mean, in alternate law the airplane becomes a regular airplane again. One that can stall, be rolled inverted. You’d expect a pilot to know how to fly a plane. While sure it’s more difficult than an aircraft designed with conventional controls from the get-go, the basics still apply.

@peteconrad2077

9 ай бұрын

All three of you here have completely missed the point. The control loss was nothing to ability to fly in alternate law. It was all about controlling the startle response of the FO.

Wow! The narration of the disaster sequence was amazing. The music, suspense, animation, impeccable. Got my heart racing with that one!

I love your channel. So informative and enjoyable. You're doing a wonderful job!

@DisasterBreakdown

10 ай бұрын

Thank you!

I'll say those 23 passengers didn't miss out, they *lucked out!* I also like how you go into the details like the ECAM and the many various computers that control modern aircraft.

I watch air crash investigations all of the time you are by far the most clear concise and thorough I have ever heard

A truly tragic accident. Thank you so much Chlöe for making such a detailed and precise work. You just only keep getting better 👍🏼👍🏼 RIP everyone onboard flight 8501 🙏🏼

I shall listen and watch when I have some time, meanwhile I am just chipping in to say thank you for the amazing channel and the consistently high quality of your *investigations* ❤

Chloe, I’ve been watching your videos for years now. You’ve gotten really great at building the suspense. Kudos!

Lately I've watched few 45 plus minutes of Air Crash Investigations. However, this is one of the most important that you did, specially related to this accident. So much relevant info, so much lessons applicable not only to aviation but to many fields, even human relations. Maximum Respect everytime, Top 10 recommended videos for sure ❤❤❤😊

Wow, that was one of your absolute best breakdowns ever... so incredibly detailed and renarkably done!!

This was by far your most comprehensive video with superb graphics and detail. I came upon your body of work ()way back in the Antony days😉on disasters and have really enjoyed them. Thanks for the work you put into these, Chloe. Take care. Looking for the next one. Little suggestion: The ATI crash near Toledo Ohio USA back in the early 90s is fascinating. As well as a United Airlines cargo crash in Detroit in 1983. Both are interesting looks at crew dynamics. I'd love your take on them.

Excellent Videos!! Thankyou for taking the time to produce these.

A fabulous retelling of the events! Whenever you apologize for not going into too much detail, remember that the professionals don't usually explain the events the way that you do, so please keep doing what you're doing!

Wow, the quality of video, animation, breakdown of incident was amazing. You deserve a lot more subscribers. Looking forward to more.

@DisasterBreakdown

10 ай бұрын

Thank you, you're too kind :)

I've watched other videos about this particular crash but it saddens me every time. This is a great detailed video. Great work 👏🏼

Another FANTASTIC video!!! Keep it up! We're all here to support!

Great job in making this video. I can only imagine the time, effort, and research put into this. Thank you.

Really excellent breakdown of this disaster, and your conclusions are spot on.

Especially great editing and sound design on this one, Chloe!

Great video,and detailed explanation (s) ! Thank you for taking time to make it..

Very well done, I bet a video like this takes at least a few weeks to make. You can be proud of your work :)

Unbelievable...As with AF447, yet another pilot (the FO) that doesn't know how to fly the bloody plane. His reaction to the EASI should have been instinctive and immediate. To say that panic and disorientation led to the incorrect response from the pilots may be accurate.. the point is that it should not have done. These events are practiced.. or should be, in simulators during recurrent training on a regular basis and any pilot performing below acceptable standards is required to undergo additional training and a re-test.. further demonstrations of below standard performance should result in the pilot being removed from operations. I would dearly like to see the training records of the First Officer. There is of course an additional factor in the language issue..English was not the first language of either pilot.. the captain's instruction to 'pull down meant no sense whatever, in spite of this the FO should have reacted correctly to the situation in the first place...'Recovery From Unusual Attitudes' is a training manouvre we undergo from the very earliest days of pilot training.

@peteconrad2077

9 ай бұрын

It’s got nothing whatsoever to do with flying the plane. Stick to stuff you understand.

@jamesgraham6122

9 ай бұрын

@@peteconrad2077 Well, I'd like you to expand on that. The Captain pulls the cb.. that disconnects the a/p.. the FO sees the left bank resulting from the rudder displacement as it goes out of trim but fails to react using his side-stick.... I've never flown an Airbus and have no experience of using that method but I have to assume that the CB having been pulled would not remove control so what is there that's not to do with flying the plane. ?. I'm now retired from a 40 yr career as a professional pilot and that includes 4 years of sim and systems instruction.. Please, enlighten me.

@peteconrad2077

9 ай бұрын

@@jamesgraham6122 at the point where the aircraft unexpectedly yaws and rolls violently the pilot can get instantly into a state we. Is call “startle”. It’s utterly debilitating and hard ti exit unless you’ve been trained to do it. This is why he didn’t react correctly. It was nothing to do with flying ability or knowledge. It was a pure psychological deficit. I would imagine you retired some time ago not to know this.

@jamesgraham6122

9 ай бұрын

@@peteconrad2077 I retired in 2016. At that time in the sim we were still including recovery from unusual attitudes,... eyes down .. opposite number eases a/c into unusual attitude power/up ..or down etc. Yes, they knew something was coming but then, the situation this crew were in with potential control issues and the captain out of his seat. I would have been sitting there with my hands and feet ready for a potential upset.

@peteconrad2077

9 ай бұрын

@@jamesgraham6122 handling startle requires specific psychological skills that the better airlines have been teaching since AF447. If you’re only reaching the handling part then you’re missing the most important bit. Besides, unusual attitudes more usually come when you don’t expect them.

I would like to say personally I really enjoy your voice. It makes it so interesting. Also the amount of facts that you provide is just wonderful as far as understanding the situation you describe. Also, I watch many of those oncrash and crash incidents I was a flight attendant for a major airlines for 25 years and I’ve always found the pilots condescending when you asked questions about the aircraft. I was actually a pilot when I was a child but couldn’t get my medical because I’m colorblind, it’s so wonderful to hear proper explanations about what are causes of aircraft. accident .Thank you so much!

These videos are so well produced and this one was especially thorough

Captain: *pulls circuit breaker in the air* The Airbus Systems: "and we took that personally.."

@thewhitefalcon8539

10 ай бұрын

well the system was fine with it, alternate law is perfectly flyable, IF THE PILOTS AREN'T COMPLETELY INCOMPETENT!!!!

@user-nu1sq2fz8s

Ай бұрын

​@@thewhitefalcon8539well in this case it looks the pilots were incompetent

I'm your fan from Indonesia and never liked when my country pops up in your video 😅 it makes me having goosebumps! Btw, great job in the video as usual, Chloe! Much love! 🩷

Can I just say I’ve been following your channel for a couple of years now and the quality and content get better with each one. Also appreciated your sense of humor coming through with the foreshadowing bit 😂❤🎉

Thank you so much, fantastic video and explanation of the tragic loss of ALL those inside air craft.

I can’t believe that after replacing the control module that controls the rudder travel limiter unit, I’m suprised AirAsia maitenance crew sis not delve deeper into it (reading the service bulletins) but just kept on swapping out the FAC module. Perhaps the airline was also overly focused on making maximum utilisation of the aircraft, and alway putting maitenance in second place

Finally, a video on another accident from Indonesia, very informative too

@DisasterBreakdown

10 ай бұрын

Thank you! Wont be the last video in Indonesia either!

Wow..your hard work on the level of production quality is absolutely paying off. I have certainly cringed and winced and even felt sick to my stomach watching previous disasters, all of which are compliments to your quality, but this time I felt astonishment at how clearly you portrayed the stall. Then the plane belly-flopped into the sea and my jaw fell open in astonishment. That part just left me...really shocked I suppose! Logically I understand what was happening, but to see it as you showed it, I could -feel- it. Best video yet, looking forward to the next one!

You make absolutely top quality aviation accident videos. I think you’re in the top 4 producers! Thank you

I love your content! Keep it coming! I haven't watched this yet but I'm sure it will be splendid. 👍🏻👍🏻☮️

@DisasterBreakdown

10 ай бұрын

Hope you enjoy it!

@pooryorick831

10 ай бұрын

@@DisasterBreakdown I will. I'm saving it for later when I can watch without distraction or interruption. I've been a student of aviation disasters since 1978 but I still learn a ton of stuff from your episodes. So I'm looking forward to watching later. ☮️

Your video's just get better and better. Always super interesting with amazing commentary. Thanks Chloe for all your efforts to keep me entertained ❤

@DisasterBreakdown

10 ай бұрын

Thank you 😊

As usual fantastic work. Thank you very much for a thorough and elegant presentation.

this is amazingly done, thanks for the effort. it’s way way better than the TV series

I don't understand why the f/o did not "fly the plane".

I can't imagine the time and research that was put into the making of this informative video 10 out of 10 stars !!!!

I'm still amazed by explanations and details on this channel...love it!

Defo one of your best videos yet, absolutely loving the content!

The best report of aviation, very clear pronounciation, easy to follow. Rest In Peace to all passengers.

Such a well put together video! It's unfortunate that lessons from Air France 447 didn't prevent this crash.

I stumbled across this channel due to my interest in aviation accidents. Having worked in association with this industry i have found this channel an excellent explanation on how these accidents took place. Just so interesting to watch and learn i am now a subscriber. ❤

Amazing job and so, so well explained, Chloe!! Thanks & here’s to many more! Happy Holidays!

I am at 28'46" and I am feeling a bit disappointed with the FO actions, not to mention the captain's pull of the circuit breaker, but it seems like Air France 447 all over again. I am not a pilot, I wish, but for God sake, stalling an airliner or even a Cessna it is the basics of flying knowing how to act, and don't mean recover from an upset, they wouldn't be in that situation if they didn't put it into it on first place. I am more and more convinced that automation is degrading pilots skills and when they are met with a surprise they are startled and the reactions aren't what it was supposed to. Anyway, thanks for your work and if I am not a patreon it's cause I can't. Keep up the good work 🙏🇵🇹Fred

I get that the Captain got smack for pulling the Breaker while in Flight, but to be honest he probably thought his Co-Pilot would not be a moron. Fail to fly, fail to follow simple Orders by the Captain and the Plane itself. It would haven been enough for him to just stop doing what he was doing cause he diden´t understood what was happening, but for some reason he was really determent to fail everyone.

You do such a great job breaking things down

Oh hai, Chloe! Been a little while since you came up in my suggestions, but that's okay because the content is always worth the wait. I love your narration and editing and wish you all the best.

Thank you for another great video enjoy your day chloe

@DisasterBreakdown

10 ай бұрын

Thank you! You too!

@Lady_boom_bitch

10 ай бұрын

@@DisasterBreakdown thank you lots of huggs to you❤️😊❤️

Lesson: never do anything with the ariplane in the air something that should only be done on land. He might have been annoyed but that first officer should have been more cautious. That is why there are standards and by-the-book measures so they could at least be safe, even with such annoying errors.

Quality of your content just keeps getting better. Well done Chloe 💯

The “foreshadow” bit had me dying. Another great video, Chloe!