"Once a scab, always a scab. Thats what they say" MEMORIES OF MINERS STRIKE 1984

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  • @dingopisscreek
    @dingopisscreek3 ай бұрын

    The miners were fighting to save their jobs, their industry and their communities. Unfortunately, their leader, Arthur Scargill wasn't. HE was fighting to bring down the Thatcher government - and the miners couldn't see that. They followed him like lemmings over the cliff edge. KING ARTHUR? Do me a favour!!!

  • @crnwll
    @crnwll5 ай бұрын

    Thanks again for these interviews. The mining communities in the north-east of England, in Cornwall & in Wales must have suffered similar destruction as the result of the clearly political rather than economical thinking. Those ancient close-knit working communities will indeed be no more, more’s the pity. I’d have less of an issue with the seemingly unnecessary closing of many of these mines (which let’s face it had some of the worst/hardest working conditions anyone could realistically imagine) if it didn’t mean the complete eradication of any decent employment that these mines gave these areas. There didn’t seem to be any post-closure societal planning / area regrowth options proposed and to me it seems that there hasn’t been much of a sustained effort to economically regenerate these now quite impoverished areas by any government since.

  • @JamesRichards-mj9kw

    @JamesRichards-mj9kw

    5 ай бұрын

    The coal industry in the UK had steadily declined since 1910.

  • @1968spikey

    @1968spikey

    4 ай бұрын

    ​@@JamesRichards-mj9kwwhat's your point?

  • @JamesRichards-mj9kw

    @JamesRichards-mj9kw

    4 ай бұрын

    @@1968spikey The Soviet agent Wilson closed twice as many coal mines.

  • @1968spikey

    @1968spikey

    4 ай бұрын

    @@JamesRichards-mj9kw at least he didn't sell off and privatise the water board, British gas, the post office, the electricity board etc etc etc.

  • @JamesRichards-mj9kw

    @JamesRichards-mj9kw

    4 ай бұрын

    @@1968spikey By the 1950s British industries were dependent on Marshall Aid.

  • @robball9264
    @robball92645 ай бұрын

    GOOD MEN .

  • @garywheeley5108
    @garywheeley51082 ай бұрын

    Arthurs still got his num grace and favour flat in the barbican in london must be £2000 a month..

  • @robtrow6041
    @robtrow60415 ай бұрын

    Nothing wrong with good old Egg and chips for tea I was brought up on it has a young lad back in the eighties. And I have got so much respect for the old miners it was a devastating time for them men back then and all the families from mining communities.

  • @JamesRichards-mj9kw

    @JamesRichards-mj9kw

    5 ай бұрын

    Coal mining should have been phased out during the 1960s.

  • @colinjennings3661
    @colinjennings36615 ай бұрын

    For the miner to say nothing happened in South Wales such as throwing stones. A taxi driver was murdered by two miners in Merthyr who threw a rock through his car windscreen when he was taking a working miner to work.

  • @dingopisscreek

    @dingopisscreek

    3 ай бұрын

    I remember - and Scargill refused to condemn the killers. THAT tells you all about the man. Means to an end.

  • @garywheeley5108

    @garywheeley5108

    2 ай бұрын

    An add to that the taxi driver ha d just ripped out his mother's kitchen and all she had was a cold tap on the walll he was taking the next week off to put a new kitchen in for her often wonder what happened she was about 75 .....the concrete block hit the driver in the chest the 2 miners got 6 years for manslaughter...

  • @straighttothepointuncut9995
    @straighttothepointuncut99955 ай бұрын

    Dam right!

  • @longjohn4416
    @longjohn4416Ай бұрын

    Cortonwood is in Yorkshire not scabland Nottingham 😂

  • @wotdoesthisbuttondo
    @wotdoesthisbuttondo5 ай бұрын

    It was political as labour closed most mines but there wasn't a peep about that, odd how Thatcher's portrayed as the villain instead of Scargill. It was odd seeing types like Roger Waters shrieking against Thatcher after she made sure he could keep much more of his songwriting royalties for a change, Iron Maiden also hated on her before Bruce joined as if they wanted labour to take their royalties too.

  • @JamesRichards-mj9kw

    @JamesRichards-mj9kw

    5 ай бұрын

    Roger Waters is a major anti-Semite.

  • @bobmcgahey1280

    @bobmcgahey1280

    4 ай бұрын

    YOU ARE RIGHT ABOUT WATERS HE IS A HYPOCRITE OTHERWISE YOU ARE SC..M

  • @phillipward2741
    @phillipward27415 ай бұрын

    Only people to come out on top was scargill a his cronies.he sold you down the road 😢

  • @bobmcgahey1280

    @bobmcgahey1280

    4 ай бұрын

    fy mother

  • @dingopisscreek

    @dingopisscreek

    3 ай бұрын

    Scargill was on a crusade to bring down Thatcher - the miner's needs came a poor second.

  • @bobmcgahey1280
    @bobmcgahey12804 ай бұрын

    not just poland china scabbed also

  • @JamesRichards-mj9kw

    @JamesRichards-mj9kw

    4 ай бұрын

    Poland hated Communism. Scargill was a Stalinist anti-Semite.

  • @JamesRichards-mj9kw
    @JamesRichards-mj9kw5 ай бұрын

    The strike was illegal.

  • @JamesRichards-mj9kw

    @JamesRichards-mj9kw

    4 ай бұрын

    @@MC-io7ru The strike was ruled illegal as no ballot was held.

  • @bobmcgahey1280

    @bobmcgahey1280

    4 ай бұрын

    stuff it

  • @darrenfarrell-bn2cb
    @darrenfarrell-bn2cb4 ай бұрын

    Judas sold Jesus for 30 Pieces of Silver. And Regretted it.

  • @old_seadog
    @old_seadog5 ай бұрын

    Unfortunately for the miners, Th****er had the perfect man in Scargill - she goaded him into the strikes & he wasn't clever enough to side step it. I'm not saying Scargill was an idiot, but his heart ruled his head & he should've handled it better. If you compare him to Mick Lynch, there is a world of difference in keeping your head. As a young lad in the Midlands, my Dad worked in Drakelow C Power Station & I could see it from the 7-8 miles away from my home. I remember the coal stocks well over the height of the cooling towers & mountains of coal wouldn't have been a bad description. I felt really bad for the miners (having grown up in an old mining village) & there was a lot of grief at the time, like _The Battle of Orgrieve_ & the injustices of Th****er's underhand secret policing. Even as a young kid, I admired the striking lads, I really did. As a nation, something was lost with the end of the strike & things went downhill from there. Th****er was an absolute cancer & plague on the country & it truly is a disaster that the miners didn't win the war. You & your families will be remembered for what you tried to do for yourselves, your communities & for the country.

  • @JamesRichards-mj9kw

    @JamesRichards-mj9kw

    5 ай бұрын

    Lynch and Scargill are both major Brexiteers.

  • @old_seadog

    @old_seadog

    5 ай бұрын

    @@JamesRichards-mj9kwWell, you can't have everything.

  • @JamesRichards-mj9kw

    @JamesRichards-mj9kw

    5 ай бұрын

    @@old_seadog Labour caused Brexit.

  • @old_seadog

    @old_seadog

    5 ай бұрын

    @@JamesRichards-mj9kwReally. Didn't know Farage, Tice, Cameron, _The Lying Clown_ et al were members. Not sure why you're wasting my time with this though, I didn't say anything about the biggest own goal in history.

  • @JamesRichards-mj9kw

    @JamesRichards-mj9kw

    5 ай бұрын

    @@old_seadog Labour's one-sided devolution broke up the UK, and caused Brexit. If the autistic Brown had not reneged to Labour's manifesto promise to hold a referendum we would still be in the right-wing Thatcherite EU.

  • @Ubique2927
    @Ubique29275 ай бұрын

    When it was cheaper to import coal from the other side of the world the miners killed their own job.

  • @GibbonsTalksBoxing

    @GibbonsTalksBoxing

    5 ай бұрын

    A very narrow minded view of how economics work

  • @G58

    @G58

    5 ай бұрын

    @@GibbonsTalksBoxing You’re obviously correct. But Worse than that, it’s wholly inaccurate too. We know that there WAS a plan to close the pits, and the miners were fully aware of that plan, so they went on strike to fight the closures. 40 years after the event, there’s no excuse for still being unaware of those facts. So the OP is either lazy, intentionally ignorant, or ideologically motivated, and doesn’t deserve any response.

  • @JamesRichards-mj9kw

    @JamesRichards-mj9kw

    5 ай бұрын

    @@GibbonsTalksBoxing The strike was never going to prevent the demise of the coal industry. It just speeded up the inevitable.

  • @MarkHarrison733
    @MarkHarrison7333 ай бұрын

    Boo hoo hoo, you lost.

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