Cuando sucedio lo de los 5 en Cuba. A nosotros, siendo niños, nos sacaban de las escuelas para marchar en las calles a exigir el retorno de los 5 espias. Hablo de niños sacados de sus colegios sin darle ninguan eleccion para participar en marchas obligatoria donde serian usados como titeres en un conflito politico que a esa edad ni siqueira puedes llegar a comprender aun. Cuando Elian, lo mismo, nos sacaban de la escuela para manifestaciones obligatorias y cuando lo regresaron a cuba, nos repartieron a todos un sobre que contenia fotos de Elian, quien tambien era un niño y cuya madre murio ahogada en la travesia tratando de llevarlo a EEUU con la esperanza de que tuviera un mejor futuro. El gobierno de Cuba es una dictadura, cuya adoctrinacion en niños es algo normal. El lema de los niños desde su primaria, es ''Pioneros por el comunismo, seremos como el che'' y luego '' patrio o muerte, venceremos'' Eso cada mañana, de todos los dias a clase, era lo primero que se hacia. En el matutino, firme, saludad la bandera con el himmno, y luego los lemas que ya puse, entonces despues comenzaba las clases. La cantidad de personas que han muerto ahogados o interceptados intentando de salir de la isla con el unico proposito de buscar una vida mejor, es estremecedora, y aun en 2020, sigue ocurriendo. La situacion alli es critica, el control del gobierno a la poblacion parece sacado de la peor pelicula de represion de la historia, cada individuo esta vigilado constantemente, por cdr, vigilancia, incluso los jovenes estudiantes se tienen que cuidar de criticar al gobierno frente a otro joven de la ujc, porque alli nunca sabes quien es el chivato que te destruye la vida. Hay miles de razones por lo cual esta pelicula es una falta de respeto para lo que se vive alli. Y que el Gramma, el periodico oficial de la dictadura, ese que no critica jamas al gobierno y que solo lo alaba o lo justifica constantemente, esta herramienta de propaganda del gobierno dictatorial, salio en defensa de esta pelicula y que los afines a la dictadura en cuba, esten alabando la pelicula y exigiendo que la pongan en la teliviosion para todos los cubanos para navidad y eso, ya deja claro que lo que ha hecho netflix con esta pelicula es un insulto al pueblo cubano que sufre.

@Josh93B93

4 жыл бұрын

🖕😂🖕 nadie lo importa gusano😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

@gladysmonzon8392

4 жыл бұрын

Se ve que eres un cochino comunista!

Does anybody knows the name of the song, when Anna dance after wedding at the disco? Thanks a lot

I feel like this film sadly got away from Assayas, one of my favorite directors. Plotting incoherent and distracting, and wonder if criticism of Castro is particularly subdued because they were allowed to film in Havana. I particularly dislike the voiceover explanations that periodically overload us with historical details. Ironically, given the incendiary politics it dives into, the reason to watch it is for the individual performances, which are all SENSATIONAL, brilliant. Getting to see Ramírez and Assayas work together again, even in a rougher experiment, is a gift for those of us who treasure "Carlos."

@ensteffo

3 жыл бұрын

+Roberto Clemente This is about US backed reactionary terrorists and not about their propaganda narrative versus Castro which liberated Cuba at their and US oligarchies dismay.

@SuperRobertoClemente

3 жыл бұрын

@@ensteffo I'm reasonably sure that Assayas is attempting to avoid total propaganda in favor of Castro's regime as well as any alliance with the nightmarish exile right wing of Miami. Always a tricky balance to achieve. These men are clearly heroes for what they did, but I don't think that's the point of the film. Assayas is interested in the complexity of personal lives caught up in great historical events-- in this case the fallout from the collapse of the Soviet Union. For me the most successful part of the film is in conveying just how incredibly close Miami and Havana are, even though they have been absolutely universes apart since 1962.

I am just here to listen to Penelope Cruz

9:48 Oh the facts are detrimental to the movie, but this is not a movie you have created, it does not flow, people cant connect the pieces together. This is a mere documentary, an unexplained and unfinished documentary, one that gives out a false message to detriment of the Cuban people. This "movie" shames the exiled Cubans who lost everything and families were torn apart, it gives them a bad look and praises a dictatorship who has done nothing but kill, incarcerate, violate the freedom of its people. I would like to know, as a Cuban, what your intentions were when making this "film", "movie"? I want to know why you did this?

@Josh93B93

4 жыл бұрын

Probably to make gusanos mad Mission accomplished 😎👍

@gladysmonzon8392

4 жыл бұрын

Joshua O’brian para comentar estupideces mejor no escribas nada!

@ACityMaker

4 жыл бұрын

Gladys Monzon asi es, gracias!

And all you right-wing nuts on this thread-- get a life, honestly. Watch "Carlos," which makes it amply clear that Assayas is no tool of any ideology or neo-communist regime. As a director he is a deep skeptic who is interested in people and their dignity against the backdrop of grand historical changes that lead to violence and wars.

It is a pity that a Venezuelan, Spanish and Cuban actors would lend their talents to lie to the world this way. They should know better.

@ensteffo

3 жыл бұрын

+Leonardo Gonzalez Its a shame you are shilling for CIA trained reactionary terrorists.

I just saw this movie like 10 mins ago,loved it!!!

In order for you to have an idea of how Cubans feel, imagine making a movie about the heroes of the KKK or Nazi Germany. It fails to inform how in Cuba, you would be put in front of a firing squad without a trial for having a different political view. This movie fails to state the reason for the rafters and mass immigration. It wrongly states that this immigration is due to economic reasons. This is a huge understatement! These were Cubans that were jumping into the ocean, risking their lives, not only for economic reasons and to escape hunger, but to escape oppression and seeking basic human freedoms that have been absent since 1959 in their country. I’m not going to give anyone an in-depth history lesson here, but “Hermanos al Rescate” was a peaceful organization that only saved lives. The movie does not state the numbers of lives they saved. The dropping flyers incident was a onetime thing and it was a peaceful fly over. The purpose was to bring information and hope to a population that had been cut off from any outside information for over 50 years. The movie does not state the fact that they were in international waters when they were shot down. I think this movie should be taken down for misinformation. It is incredible how they twist the truth around and take the history out of context. How would the world react if there was a movie were the Gestapo are the heroes? As a Cuban. I see it as an insult. As a movie it is not the best. Not the best acting or directing.

@Josh93B93

4 жыл бұрын

It was recieved pretty well in Cuba, just not mierdami or the gusano community

@TheLeotko

4 жыл бұрын

@@Josh93B93 I don't know where you are getting your information brother. I have most of my family in Cuba. All of them, and their friends , and their friends dogs see it this movie as fabricated lies. But they lived it and keep living it. They know. And remember, there are two types of Cubans, that ones against the communist regime that can speak openly about it, and the ones against the communist regime that can't in fear of persecution and oppressions.

@TheLeotko

4 жыл бұрын

@@Josh93B93 kzread.info/dash/bejne/gaqLrbimk8TAZs4.html

@TheLeotko

4 жыл бұрын

@@Josh93B93 kzread.info/dash/bejne/p39tk8aFga7Xkbw.html Remember that in Cuba before 1952 there was no immigration. Live in Cuba was the same or better than in the United States. We had a constitution, and all the freedoms of press, expression, ownership, travel etc. just like in the USA. From 1952 to 1959 we had a dictatorship that took control thru an Illegal military coup. Even thou, nothing really changed for the average Cuban, all the liberties remained. In 1959, with the promise of liberating us from this dictatorship, Castro took over and everything went to hell. It became a jail. ALL property was confiscated. No longer did you own your family business or your own home. Everything belonged to the government. TV channels, radio, and newspapers were nationalized. No longer did you have information from the outside world. If you were born after 1959, you where brainwashed in school that Cuba was one of the most advanced riches countries thanks to the revolution. You were made to believe that the rationalization of food was a normal thing worldwide. YES, you could no longer go to the supermarket to buy as pleased. From then on, you had a ration booklet that was a joke. No one could survive on that. Despite all this, the revolution sold an fictitious idea to the world of how education and medicine is free and what a great utopia Cuba is. The world still buys this shit believe it or not.

@Josh93B93

4 жыл бұрын

@@TheLeotko no, aún estás los 11 milliones de cubanos de pie que apoyan la revolución, y que llevo esta información de mis vecinos, vivo en Rodas, Cienfuegos, que tu lo llamen "mentiras fabricadas", nos llamo hechos históricos recordados. Y nada que usted o sus amigos vendepatrias puedo cambiar el realidad, no puede tapar el sol con solo un dedo.

BS

Que verguenza jugando con los sentimientos y el dolor del Pueblo Cubano sometido a esa dictadura esta pelicula es una basura

@chivo1978

4 жыл бұрын

De q hablas?? Buenisima pelicula,ay muchos factores de los dos lados y el govierno Cubano acepto el proyecto!

@BK-bh8ek

4 жыл бұрын

Eddy Blanco por qué crees que aceptó? Porque es propaganda gratis para ellos

@MindfulMatrixArt

4 жыл бұрын

@@chivo1978 Que el gobierno cubano, el cual es una dictadura, con cero tolerancia a la critica, acepte el proyecto, lo alabe y despues discutan sobre la posibilidad de ponerlo en la television para todos los cubanos. Ya deja claro que esto es una mierda de propaganda

This is very sad. All involved in this movie should be in part ashamed of glorifying and portraying a dictatorship in such a positive light. There are lies, confusing timelines and false portrayal of people and communities outside of Cuba.

@ensteffo

3 жыл бұрын

+alejandro Vergara Cuba is more democratic than the US and its actually a very accurate portrayal of the CIA trained reactionary terrorists and their families.

@alenelson25

3 жыл бұрын

@@ensteffo With all respect. Based on my life experiences, born and raised in Cuba and based on research and historic facts, the movie is inaccurate, misleading and a mediocre waste of talent. There's NO democracy in Cuba, anyone knows that. But as said from the start I respect your opinion. Thanks for engaging and take care.

Shame on you all!!! Educate yourselves.

Amateurish at its best. The movie shows a pair of MIG-21 interdicting and shooting down two Cessna aircraft. In fact, it was a MIG-29 and a MIG-23.

@Josh93B93

4 жыл бұрын

Critical support to Mikoyan Gurevich

@gladysmonzon8392

4 жыл бұрын

Shut up Joshua you don’t know shit!

@Josh93B93

4 жыл бұрын

@@gladysmonzon8392 that take too spicy for ye, too much mayo with the gringos?😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

@gladysmonzon8392

4 жыл бұрын

Joshua O'Bryan we are here talking about a propaganda movie for Castro communism not about stupid airplanes! But the movie wasn’t even accurate on the airplanes what do you expect of the rest! And I don’t like spicy food if that’s what you’re referring to! You are more accurate than the movie!

@SuperRobertoClemente

4 жыл бұрын

It's not a documentary, Mr. History Channel.

Cero tolerancia con las dictaduras,pesima pelicula,Penolope empezo el camino hacia su caida como actriz,la suerte ya esta echada.

@nyska69

3 жыл бұрын

Ya te gustaría. Ella es tremenda actriz reconocida en Europa y en EEUU.

Let's boycott this movie. I just called Netflix and asked them for it to be taken down.

@Josh93B93

4 жыл бұрын

Nice to see how your talking point of supporting freedom of expression held up slick

@darylgonzalez646

4 жыл бұрын

@@Josh93B93 “He must be very ignorant for he answers every question he is asked.” ― Voltaire

@ensteffo

3 жыл бұрын

+ Daryl Gonzalez You dont want a light shining on the terrorist activities of the reactionary CIA trained terrorist gusano community so you plead for censorship.

@darylgonzalez646

3 жыл бұрын

ensteffo Hahahahahahaha ignorance is everywhere

Well if the gusanos hate it than the movie has to be great lol

@darylgonzalez646

4 жыл бұрын

Joshua O'Bryan The movie was so good received by critics and audiences worldwide that no studio wanted to back it for wide release and Netflix had to step in and buy it. The movie was presented at Venezia, Toronto and other cities and the critics ripped it apart. I guess those movie critics could be gusanos too 🤔

@Josh93B93

4 жыл бұрын

@@darylgonzalez646 maybe, that would explain the change.org petition(so nuch for the gusano narrative of "freedom of expression"), i watched it, then watched it again because my fiancee wanted to see it, and we both enjoyed it, so ill stand by my original comment on the matter, great movie, needed more clips of fidel and the events needed to be dated, and i wish we could have seen the 5 being reunited with thier families, but it is what it is...

@darylgonzalez646

4 жыл бұрын

@@Josh93B93 I am glad you enjoyed it not once but twice... maybe you go for a thrice. That speaks for itself. Some people watch the movie and accept its narrative as a facts; some others watch the movie and are not easily tricked. Both people have the right to their opinions. It's their prerogative. Opinions should be respected, as part of "freedom of expression" as you call it but the Founding Fathers called it "freedom of speech". However, an opinion that is wrong, it's wrong today, and it'll be wrong tomorrow. They are two completely different things. I might say 2 plus 2 is 4, you might say is 3... I hope you follow. Thanks.

@Josh93B93

4 жыл бұрын

@@darylgonzalez646 Ok, Posada Carrilles was a terrorist, that isn't an opinion, its fact, los gusanos son delinquentes vendepatrias, eso no es opinión, es un hecho.

@Josh93B93

4 жыл бұрын

@@darylgonzalez646 and no, didnt follow, learn how to contextualize shite m8.

I loved the movie, was really well done! Also, finally a movie which is not full of anticommunist pretensions