I have a 6s with ios 9, lost some pictures cos of this issue. If anyone knows a bypass, until then this phones just chillin in the cupboard on a activation error screen.

@teemteem

Жыл бұрын

I feel bad for everyone who lost their data. I hope you can get it back

@FirdausIsmail1

Жыл бұрын

its disgusting how apple got away doing this type of thing

@sfgrgfsf212

Жыл бұрын

What happens if you try to install iOS 15 through a computer

@jacobwillcock1999

Жыл бұрын

I called Apple, they advised me to increase my storage to 100GB to handle my 64GB Phone, I didn't believe them, but they managed to export the pictures to icloud, sucks I have to pay icloud storage

@p1sstoph3

Жыл бұрын

@@jacobwillcock1999 as someone who works for apple, you most likely were close to capacity on storage and therefor it couldn’t load anything due to not having enough storage for caching. iCloud Photos allows you to optimize your device storage by keeping compressed thumbnails on your device instead of the full image, so something that would be 40GB of actual photo storage would only take up about maybe 1 GB of phone storage.

It's impossible to accept this as a "bug". This has been going on for many years, and Apple is _fully_ aware of it.

@rodrigojds

Жыл бұрын

It’s been going on for many years? I’m pretty tech savvy and this is the first time I’m hearing of this. And I’m fairly certain I’m not the only one

@zakaryan2004

Жыл бұрын

@@rodrigojds the video clearly says that it started since early 2018

@lookinaturmom

Жыл бұрын

maybe watch the video one more time?

@rodrigojds

Жыл бұрын

@@zakaryan2004 yes I’m aware of that. It’s still the first time I’m hearing of this. If it were really that bad we would have heard about this sooner. I just think that issue is so extremely rare that it’s flying underneath apples radar. How many people you know have an iPhone 6 and how many are still running iOS 9 on said iphone?

@vetamauromihali

Жыл бұрын

@@rodrigojds just because you haven't heard of it does mean apple has an excuse. It isnt a bug, its something apple does to make you buy a new phone.

This is just insane to me. Forget about repairs, you shouldn't need apple's permission to USE your phone that you bought, regardless of how old it is.

@Allustar

Жыл бұрын

Apple’s got too much power, it’s hard to do anything about this. They clearly won’t do anything about this because why would they? It makes them too much money.

@stijnvdv2

Жыл бұрын

Ah yes, Apple being unfriendly to costumers again and Samsung has still not really fixed the battery problem. If you use your phone on a regular basis, that won't be an issue with Samsung, however samsung is known for the longer stored devices to bulge out of their frame coz after no use for a long time the battery starts to degrade and bloat.

@omarsayer316

Жыл бұрын

fr 😞

@watermelon1221

Жыл бұрын

@@stijnvdv2 lithium ion, not samsung, stop spreading fake news. iPhones have the same issue, keep it away from heat

@KrolKaz

Жыл бұрын

Unfortunately this is just what happens when technology evolves at such break neck speeds that older devices quickly become outdated and security exploits become easier to find . Apple doesn't do this bc their greedy, they do it bc they care about thier costumers security and brand reputation.

Quite some years ago, I made it to get the 4s when it just came out. I loved it. The quality of the screen was amazing. A few weeks later, my wife dropped my beloved phone into a pretty big water bucket. I couldn't believe it when I saw it laying there on the bottom. I rushed home, studied iFixit and several videos. Then I took it completely apart, dried every single part as good as possible and left everything laying over night. The next morning I reassembled it, and it worked and it's still working, the hardware at least. I loved the massive parts, everything screwed together, nearly no glue. Since the warranty was gone anyways, I started jailbreaking which took my device to a whole new level. After several jbs, I erased something which I shouldn't have touched and was forced to update to iOS 6 (when they changed the whole design). My phone had a complete new factory reset, everything was completely wiped and now exactly as Apple wanted it to be. Without anything else installed, the phone got so slow that turned to be useless. I even had the blobs for downgrading, but for whatever reason, it was not possible any more. I was so extremely disappointed and in that moment Apple lost a very passionate client and fan forever. After all these years with Android now, I'm actually thankful to Apple for what happened. Android is open source. You can root to modify the stock OS, install apps outside of the official store and even install other stores like F-Droid. You can flash custom modified and optimised roms and so much more freedom. And all that for a fraction of the price of a similar Apple product. These are our devices, we payed (often quite a lot) for them and it's our right to use them as we want to. Apple ALWAYS repeats themselves saying it's for your own security, for your own good. In Android the manufacturers lock the bootloader that nobody can modify the phone who is not aware of what he's doing. You get tons of warnings that it will kill your cat, burn your house and start a nuclear war. On Xiaomi it takes a whole WEEK until they finally unlock YOUR phone. But they do it. I got warned, it's my loss of warranty, my phone, my responsibility, MY decision.

Huge thanks to you man. Without people like you who bring attention to this and inform consumers on how to troubleshoot, issues like the faceid being disabled would never have been fixed

Great video and explanation. Absolutely absurd Apple's able to just lock people out and not give any reason why- for a company that claims to focus on its consumers, they sure seem to love making life difficult for some. Even just an explanation from them would be nice, honestly.

@Lol5967

Жыл бұрын

Hello Josh nice to see you here

@hypercane2023

Жыл бұрын

Hey josh

@alerey4363

Жыл бұрын

They DO focus on their consumers: Apple's primary concern is that fanboys won't be able to get freedom of choice; once they decide programmed obsolescence is due....time to spend a fortune on a "new" stacy malibu a.k.a. iphone

@robsquared2

Жыл бұрын

Weird about this. Luke Miani got a 3G running.

@NicVandEmZ

Жыл бұрын

Most likely because those devices will still have jailbreak and Apple is no fan jailbreak

This is pretty terrifying to me because I sometimes turn on my dad's old phone who passed away a couple years ago just to look through pictures he took and also I take great pride in being the last person he texted of all my siblings. I'd sue if that phone got bricked.

@zanblr

Жыл бұрын

I recommend you backup those files, even if it was on a non apple device

@davidv6588

Жыл бұрын

It's insane that you don't have multiple backups of those pictures. What are you thinking?

@americantroy77

Жыл бұрын

@@davidv6588 I know right… shame on me big time

@arthurbttf

Жыл бұрын

@@americantroy77 What the fuck are you doing here??? Go backup those photos and don't let it connect to wifi!

@ic0nrc

Жыл бұрын

@@americantroy77 yes, I’m glad you admitted that you’re stupid…

I’ve seen that newer devices running iOS 16 will NOT let you proceed with activation until updating to the latest version of iOS. So if you erase the phone, you’ll be forced to update. Software preservation is important and there are people who collect old devices, and should be able to keep that device on its original firmware. I still have an old iPad on iOS 6, and I’m never erasing it.

@mosijahi3096

Жыл бұрын

why?

@rikubrown8109

Жыл бұрын

@@mosijahi3096 why not?

@mosijahi3096

Жыл бұрын

@@RStark-ek7mh ok ? Do they work?

@mosijahi3096

Жыл бұрын

@@RStark-ek7mh Ok understood 👍🏿

@honaldjason

10 ай бұрын

iOS 6?? Wtf are you doing transfer the data from that old thing to a server and throw it away

This is why I moved to Android as soon as I could after hearing about Apple's "Monopolization" in the phone market. I never regret going to Android, it gives me peace of mind and can be easier to work with than IOS. I literally tried to open my old iPhone 4s for someone I know, so they could use it for their work stuff, but it took me over 4 hours to unlock it, because of the crappy Apple servers and their terrible security systems. I took to asking customer support too and they were no help I think. It's so bafflingly bad. You know when people remember Nokia? We remember them because they were durable, and the only phones we had back in the day, the legacy it left was, quite something really, inspired a generation of durability in the phone market, I think anyway. Looking at Apple, they never did anything significant post Steve Jobs. They have nothing to give, and everything to take.

@aadixum

Жыл бұрын

People criticize Android for providing only a few years of updates. Well, they don't ban you from using their phones once they are no longer supported. I used my parent's old S3 until 2022. Apart from the battery draining, the phone ran like new.

@Welovedaxies

Жыл бұрын

Apparently Apple are devastated at your move!

@SchwaAlien

Жыл бұрын

Steve was Apple, James was Project Veritas. It happens, and yes, of course other people were involved but a leader is a leader for a reason.

@_Devil

Жыл бұрын

And with Android always innovating their software (specifically with Android 12 and 13), their OS is rapidly catching up with IOS. I think by Android 14, IOS will be surpassed.

@antiwokehuman

Жыл бұрын

@@_Devil Android is already a much better os than ios in many aspects. They've also changed how updqtes are delivered so that it's ewsier to support older devices. I have an m1 ipad and ipados is lacking in multitasking. Such a shame considering the capability of the hardware.

Apple makes it feel like when you purchase a phone from them you're actually just renting it and they are the actual owners and get to do whatever they want with it.

@SpaceCadet4Jesus

Жыл бұрын

Apple is known for decades to have a stranglehold over their software and hardware, Apple owns it, controls it and nobody else. It's always been called "A walled Garden".

@justanotherpxrson

Жыл бұрын

That's how it works with pretty much every device now

@protocetid

Жыл бұрын

@@justanotherpxrson We need regulators to force these shamelessly greedy megacorps to stop screwing us over. Billion and trillion dollar corporations (yes it has gotten that bad with the likes of Apple) are not your friends or identity, they see you as nothing more than a walking wallet. The EU has been ramping up its cleaning of the mobile industry, consumers need to support and demand more regulation and antitrust action from their governments.

@MsDestroyer900

Жыл бұрын

@@justanotherpxrson I don't get the same issues with Xiaomi phones. Rooting them and tweaking them is well documented everywhere.

@shizutokujowara8787

Жыл бұрын

@@MsDestroyer900 well except newer models. Am a Xiaomi user myself, and my device (Redmi Note 11) still doesn't have its kernel sources released, which is why custom tweaking development is a bit of a mixed bag

This is insane. Companies keep finding new ways to enforce planned obsolescence, no matter how well you take care of your device its producer will find a means to sabotage it in hopes you'll buy a new one. I have a small blacklist of companies who do this and boycott all of their products.

@immonkey2074

Жыл бұрын

Which companies do you have blacklisted? Asking because I'll do the same. Planned Obsolescence is a predatory business tactic and won't be supporting any businesses that partake in it.

@goatbonnie

Жыл бұрын

@@immonkey2074 i too would like to know

@matthewr6148

Жыл бұрын

Same

@1685Violin

Жыл бұрын

I pretty sure at this point, it's easier to list companies who _don't_ do planned obsolescence.

@alexjustalexyt1144

Жыл бұрын

Drop that list bro

This is the kind of "big tech" stuff that people should be wary of. And i knew Apple would be leading the way. Some friends and i discussed this some years ago when Apple was kicking people out for their laptops being more than 5 years old, Apple store wouldn't touch them.

I had one Iphone in my life. The 5 I think? Yeah, it looked slick and all, but I immediately saw a decline in battery power and phone capabilities after just a couple of updates. Well before my two year contract was over. I went back to Android. At least I could put an external SD card in those. Although they've removed that on a lot of newer models which I think is a piss take.

@K-Anator

Жыл бұрын

If it was the iPhone 6, you missed out on a class action lawsuit. They were slowing down the phones to maintain their original battery life as it degraded. Both the 6 and 7 actually.

@haomingli6175

Жыл бұрын

It is just because some iOS upgrades cram a lot of new functions and features into it, which is too taxing for older devices to run.

@jayden793

11 ай бұрын

I have the iPhone se 2016 with iOS 15 it’s still working pretty good besides the battery

@honaldjason

10 ай бұрын

My dad had the iPhone 5 and it worked really well for 2 years until I threw water onto it, maybe it was the placebo effect?

I tell every one of my customers that the iPhone 6s and 6s Plus were the best iPhone's ever made in terms of reliability and repairability. I still repair about 2 a week. I really hope someone at Apple simply forgot to remove the 6s from the Activation blocklist. Thanks for sharing this info.

@9852323

Жыл бұрын

The 5,5s SE1, 6s and 6s plus were the best iPhones imo. The 4/4s were good too. Anything after that was just gimmicks you don’t need or removal of necessary features.

@hypercane2023

Жыл бұрын

The simple iPhones were better I still use them :)

@hyperturbotechnomike

Жыл бұрын

I still use the iPhone SE1, since it has the perfect single hand form factor. I only use it for texting SMS, phone calls and as a music player with the headphone jack. I don't play games or use social media apps on it.

@maeyshine

Жыл бұрын

Were the last that had barely any competition and were relevant

@yaboiavery5986

Жыл бұрын

I'm typing this on a 6s. One of the greatest phones ever

Apple: We're not including a charger in the box because we don't want to contribute to e waste. Also Apple:

@ronaldwilliamson7963

Жыл бұрын

$$$$$

@eymenthug

Жыл бұрын

So i have to throw my old iphone 💀

@koruspring1519

Жыл бұрын

I’d trust that statement when they give $100 discount for the missing charger.

@liraz747

Жыл бұрын

Ah yes, we're also not including a working phone in the box because that also helps to reduce e waste

@spacecadet2172

Жыл бұрын

What an idiotic comment. All you have to do is update the phones iOS and it works fine

I've got iPhone 5s in my collection that works just fine. The thing is - a few years back there was a bug discovered in iOS that some pre-shioped certificates were due to expiry, and apple did ship the urgent SW update saying - update your old iPhone now or it would be a brick, since after the certificate expiry date iPhones won't be able to communicate with apple servers to download the update (or activate in this case). So it is not a deliberate disabling of the old devices, but rather a sw bug which apple did its best to fix on time. Needles to say, that my old iphone 5e is still receiving security updates even in the year 2023, so apple is clearly working towards keeping it working.

Commenting for algorithms. My 6s+ working fine on 14.8 and leaving it there. Thanks for vid!

I work in technical support. Apple does this simply because they want you to buy a newer iPhone. If your older phone stops working, they think surely you’ll buy another phone. It’s happened to me personally more than once and it’s aggravating. Apple really needs to be called out for this but unfortunately there’s still many who will defend Apple no matter what.

@axd2312

Жыл бұрын

Don't worry, isheep are there to defend every absurd decision of apple.

@deerhandle

Жыл бұрын

Hello this is Alex from Amazon tech support,how can I help you?

@gaswe9236

Жыл бұрын

@blueBeanieboos TV what are you gonna do then?

@irem7508

Жыл бұрын

@@gaswe9236 buy a phone that is not iphone, i would do that at least

@chrissonnenschein6634

Жыл бұрын

i have no intention of buying a “new” iPhone when they cost more than my monthly living expenses ... have been using 6s last several years after losing job a d had to sell my 12 pro max to pay bills. and quite honestly Apple needs to think about reworking input screen layout and other standard features as quite simply input is quite primitive compared to latest releases of Android. sApple requires you to go into other screens for simple everyday punctuation f symbols, and the (space) boots you out of (Num Lock) - absolutely irritating.

Apple Moment

@SonofTheMorningStar666

Жыл бұрын

As usual.

@simeonrogers5915

Жыл бұрын

😂

@ThatDroid

Жыл бұрын

Apple Moment indeed.

@hypercane2023

Жыл бұрын

Apple is like your overprotective parents

@ancess

Жыл бұрын

Apple moment

This is why I still haven't updated my iPhone 6S iOS. Still using 12.4 till this day, and the speed performance is still as fast as it was new.

Thank you for raising awareness

I’m still using a 6S as my main phone and thankfully it hasn’t bricked itself. This is definitely concerning though and thank you for getting this out there.

@crusadertwo239

Жыл бұрын

well your probably on a newer version so you shoudnt have this issue

@rrp6405

Жыл бұрын

running ios 9?

@9852323

Жыл бұрын

Are you on iOS 9?

@9852323

Жыл бұрын

@@hystonixok

@MechWarrior141

Жыл бұрын

No I’m running IOS 15 unfortunately.

Let's be honest, _Apple users_ will buy a new iPhone _(and will continue to do so over and over)_ even if Apple decides to randomly brick _(which can be easily done online)_ half of the Phones in use. And _that's_ why such companies will continue to live long and prosper.

@Khakifantastic

8 ай бұрын

Until anyone else offers a competitive level of competent ecosystem, yep.

As a GB technician, I have seen this issue happen from time to time. There will be devices that are functional with Cellular 'Error' in settings, and after a device restore via iTunes the phone will be stuck at activation screen during setup. Usually with running MRI, we're able to determine that the failure is with the device's modem/cellular module, but as to what fails exactly I'm not sure.

@eileenlucynakurosawa7421

Жыл бұрын

I know what the problem is, the baseband chip is damaged or another component that works like Apple proprietary NFC is faulty. Also can be CPU or other components experiencng connection issue, RAM, diode, resistor, capacitors, broken circuit lines by moisture, by a strong fall, whatever. That's why update doesn't work, finds some hardware fail and doesn't install. Can be repaired but they need lot of work and specialized tools to extract the information from the phone's nand memory chip, so can be reprogrammed in other chip and swap If this info is unavailable only a special jailbreak method should bypass activation lock, if that doesn't work either, then bye bye iDevice.

And Apple is still gonna say they took out the charger because of the environment

@IntriguedLioness

Жыл бұрын

I was honestly fine with that. Who doesn't have a drawer full of charger blocks?? I have so many USBA because of my Amazon fires and now quite the collection of USBC.. .... so not having a bunch of outdated lightning chargers is fine.. I use wireless charging anyway.

@remarkable4

Жыл бұрын

@@IntriguedLioness ok bozo you can take apples nuts out of your mouth now

@Nomad8324

Жыл бұрын

@@IntriguedLioness Not all chargers are created equal. Try charging your phone on 10 year old charger vs a new one.

@ukrainiansturgeon8561

Жыл бұрын

Shipping the charger separately uses more packaging though

@H.EL-Othemany

Жыл бұрын

@@IntriguedLioness we've found him ladies and gentlemen. The Isheep

Apple should at least allow users to backup their images and videos even after the phone being bricked. Not allowing that just because you didn't update seems brutal.

@MrLewise67

Жыл бұрын

You can just connect it to itunes and either back it up or update and keep data.

@Mtaalas

Жыл бұрын

The person who bought the apple phone just didn't have enough literacy to understand that if Apple so chose, they could block you out of all your data, because it's all on Apple's servers, it's all apples systems. It's not YOURS. It's theirs. And you're not buying a phone, you're licensing it. Same with streaming services for media, STEAM for games (digital distribution in general) the cloud storage, the rental apartments, the future of auto mobiles... cloud software (Adobr for example), everything. At the end game of capitalism you will not own ANYTHING and thus it can be taken away from you at any time. People should go back to buying things that these companies cannot control. Buy CD's for music, buy Blu-rays for movies, buy disks for your games, buy cars that don't rely on servers, don't get that "smart" lock to your home or smart watches... don't buy digital copies of books for e-readers... OWN your stuff again! "But it's so inconvenient to use blu-rays and buy season boxes!" Yes, it is, but you OWN it. It's always a choice between convenience and ownership.

@mycelia_ow

Жыл бұрын

@@Mtaalas They can't even access offline local data though, this is wakeup call to stop using Crapple.

@belfloer

Жыл бұрын

@@MrLewise67 2:05

@rexsceleratorum1632

Жыл бұрын

@@Mtaalas Sheesh man, buy an Android and be thankful that you don't live in a commie system

I've been dealing with this issue on my old Mac running High Sierra, when I tried to wipe it recently to be either resold or recycled. Apparently, the only solution is to downgrade to the preinstalled 10.8 Mountain Lion, which is absurd. I don't think it's unreasonable to assume that a PC OS will work 6 years after its release.

Hi. I have several older apple products that are bricked as of the last few weeks…even with spare memory… “server not available”, software/apps scrambled on one, and a third just super slow. iphone 4s, ipod touch, iphone 6s plus. they were all woking fine until “software updates”

Devs: how much programmed obsolescence do you want we add? Apple: Yes.

@apgp1448

Жыл бұрын

It’s the industry standard. Samsung only released 0-2 updates for years.

@TsunaXZ

Жыл бұрын

@@apgp1448 Not to locked its own user though.

@AgustinBernardo

Жыл бұрын

@@apgp1448 not all brands, I have the same phone that I had 5 years ago. Thanks to some brief tutorials I have android 12 with LineageOS. The battery still in good condition.

@psyolent.

Жыл бұрын

this

@akapbhan

Жыл бұрын

@@apgp1448 I've a 2012 samsung tab which works piss poor, drains battery but here's the key point though it still works. It's not deactivated remotely

the fact that a device can be *this* locked down, to the point where to even open it you need to contact the manufacturer and hope that they give you permissions, is just absurd. I hope that this ends sometime. the consumer should own the device, not the manufacturer.

@axd2312

Жыл бұрын

Well, android owners actually own their devices, apple users just don't.

@axd2312

Жыл бұрын

@Sine Nomine But i don't get locked out of my own phone, and don't need to ask The Big brother's permission to use my own phone. Please, don't get triggered and turn everything into a "Apple vs android" debate. Cause it's not. I just stated a thing. That's it.

@elvingearmasterirma7241

Жыл бұрын

@@axd2312 And if android does that? We should all gather together and make a fuss. A massive fuss

@hauthicus

Жыл бұрын

@@elvingearmasterirma7241 big thing with android is you can just install a custom OS and ignore their updates since its literally just linux

@elvingearmasterirma7241

Жыл бұрын

@@hauthicus Thats true too

Great vid thanks for sharing👍! My mom & I both have the iPhone 8 plus and we love our phones but I'm now worried that ours will become bricked soon too 😞 Are there any rumors that this will happen to these phones too?

@uateme

Жыл бұрын

no. but i recommend you back up important stuff. e.g. photos

@Dr-Random

9 ай бұрын

I think you two will be alright.

In video from Виталя на связи also happens on iPhone 5 that downgraded to iOS 6 and iPhone SE 2016 with iOS 9.3.5. Note from this video: Excluding iPad Pro 2015 Wi-Fi only model. iPad Pro 2015 Wi-Fi Model Only on iOS 9 still activates fine.

It should be a law that when you release “updatable tech” that you have to provide access to ALL legacy versions of updates and patches.

I can't believe the 6 is considered old enough to discontinue, I can remember clearly when it came out and I'm still pretty young. In any other industry this would be considered ridiculous.

@stylestrydes8360

Жыл бұрын

Look at any android phone, see which big company supports them still.

@SYNTH_M4N

Жыл бұрын

@@stylestrydes8360 wdym?

@Follower_Of_The_Onions

Жыл бұрын

@@SYNTH_M4N what that unga bunga means that overtime device will become obsolete, hardware on such device cannot be upgraded like the CPU GPU RAM, they are not modular compared to a custom pc that if you need to upgrade, you can! Therefore, newer software wise, it is hard to keep up with older hardware. There is not much you can do once you reach the hardware limitation. Android phone does it too. They too stop supporting older devices after couples of years but you can use it till well end of time, I guess hahaha. My good old Samsung A5,A8, S8, Sony Xa1, LG G2,G3 still work too this day. That why I do like the idea of modular phone. Outdated parts, get newer parts and less e-waste.

@SYNTH_M4N

Жыл бұрын

@@Follower_Of_The_Onions Thanks for the more in depth response. I agree, although I do think that Samsung is somewhat better seeing as how I use a Galaxy S5 from back in the day which still works fine.

@LostieTrekieTechie

Жыл бұрын

@@stylestrydes8360 while my older Android devices are no longer a supported by their manufacturer, *none* of those manufacturers have bricked my older devices. Crap like this guarantees I will never buy and iPhone no matter how nice the hardware or software.

OK, I got it done, signed to Apple ID with my other ph, Huawei (Android) 😂, and reactivated my iPhone 4s, yes you read that right, found several other devices and removed them changed password and security questions and I'm set to go, cheers for the video and info.

It's crazy to me that people will proudly line up and buy this company's products every year

@pauliusgelcys3538

Жыл бұрын

Sheep allways gona by sheep

@esdigital5259

Жыл бұрын

My phone is on its 3rd year. Will hit 3 years in October anyway. Let's see how long i can make it.

@teamofone1219

Жыл бұрын

BeCAuSe iT HaS tHE ApPlE LoGo So iT MuST bE GoOd.

@william_.575

Жыл бұрын

mfs be calling me broke because i dont wanna buy disfunctional hardware frrrrr

@SmitePlayz_

Жыл бұрын

And I'm sitting here with my 200$ Android which works completely fine even after 2 years of use. Android for life

How the heck can this company consistently be so blatantly illegal in its anti consumer behaviour and get away with it over and over again? Back in the day the US almost buried Microsoft for trying to block Netscape in Windows, when did things did a 180?

@tullo5564

Жыл бұрын

They probably bribe the US government or something like that.

@digital4282

Жыл бұрын

For the same reason Google gets away with it? They don’t care anymore.

@Mawyman2316

Жыл бұрын

When people stopped caring because they’re just users and are split between so many generations and update so often they don’t run into problems like this.

@FarnhamJ07

Жыл бұрын

In addition to users just not caring if it doesn't affect them personally, I think Apple & al. have done a 'good' job convincing people (and especially legislators) into thinking these kinds of things are for the best in terms of security and safety. E.g. saying it'd be too difficult to provide security updates for old devices, or that old batteries could explode if left in or are replaced by the user. It's one of those things where, because there's a kernel of truth in some of their claims, people that take them at face value because they don't look any deeper.

@joeylawn36111

Жыл бұрын

"....when did things (do) a 180?" Wh€n politician$ $tarted to ¢are for ¢€rtain thing$ other than people....

I understand due to security aspect as older devices could be an entry point to apple servers. I have a 6plus so it must be worse off(I haven't used it for long time though)

weird part too. The phones update when you set them up. Or format them and set them up. My green 5c was at the home screen. The tool i used forced it past setup. but it immediately went right back to the setup screen. Home screen is right under that stupid "bug" eventually enough people will be fed up with apples antics and they will sweat if they wish to keep a fanbase. I have 3 perfectly fine 8pluses and a simple total reset leaving no data. Would allow them to be reused. Till then they are glorified paperweights.

Way to tell us you don't let your customers own their own hardware without saying you won't let them own their own hardware, Apple.

@protocetid

Жыл бұрын

The entirety of the mobile landscape is extremely anti consumer, tablets and smartphones are computers but compared to a desktop they’re so locked down it’s like you don’t own your own device. People need to take a stand, while they’re at it get their governments to break up megacorps like Apple and Google too. They’ve gotten too big, US regulators are seeking antitrust action against Google. Consumers should ensure it happens.

@TheDragShot

Жыл бұрын

Just wait until Microsoft starts pulling the same bs. They're already working towards this degree of control.

What keeps me away from Apple, is their attitude to device ownership, which led to this problem and others like the account lockout. For me, it is very much "1984" when a device keeps in lifelong contact with the mothership to accomplish some very basic functions - which can include a device kill. I can't accept the idea - but that's me. Others seem to be very happy of such insane dependence. Google Android seems still fine; should things turn for the worse, it will be Linux phones all the way to the Paradise. Thank you Mr. Jeffreys for being so dedicated to your viewers and followers, by producing this video, reminding Apple that customers deserve respect...

@remarkable4

Жыл бұрын

Solid comment.

@redm00n748

Жыл бұрын

I go to Android

@superwassou

Жыл бұрын

I am Superwassou and I approve this message.

@d3xmeister

Жыл бұрын

I wish this was true and it was only Apple doing this. It’s the same with most Android actually. None of the Android devices currently in my household would let me downgrade, unlock boot loader so I can use whatever software I want, use an SD card to do anything other than copy my photos and videos there, change the battery myself, uninstall apps or services I don’t want or need, and all that “good” stuf iphones aren’t known for. Gone are the days when I made my old Samsung phones FLY by changing their batteries for new ones in 5 seconds and put Lineage OS on them with minimal junk. Modern Android phones are just as bad as iphones, or worse

@JohnnyTurnerMusic

Жыл бұрын

@@d3xmeister You need to buy Google only devices. Plenty of root kits available for these. It just seems to be 3rd partys who lock their phones down.

As a new iphone user, this is crazy. I'm not really impressed with the iphone or it's app store so far and seeing this. I think this will be the last one as well. I get companies not supporting old hardware anymore but if it can work, it should be allowed to work.. Imagine windows bricking your pc because you're still running windows 95 on an old laptop.

I remember one time Apple released an update that broke wifi. A number of people posted on the Apple forum, with some saying it was a router issue and some pointing at Apple. Any messages indicating Apple was at fault were quickly removed. I posted a number of messages as to why the issue was in Apple’s court, and every one of my messages got deleted, including the message I posted asking why they kept deleting my messages. Talk about frustrating! A subsequent update quietly resolved the issue but Apple never admitted fault. At no point prior to the issue, during the issue, or after issue resolution did I make any changes to my router, thus showing this was most assuredly an issue on Apple’s end (not the router), at least in my specific case.

love that I can activate my 4th gen ipod touch with no issues, but apple is somehow threatened by their own past phones to the point that they have to nuke as many as possible

@sweetangel02

Жыл бұрын

they're their own worst enemy. 😭

@deathstinger13

Жыл бұрын

probably in part because they've canceled the ipod touch line entirely

@ShadeATV

Жыл бұрын

I own the exact same iPod touch! And yes it’s running iOS 6

@ganymedehedgehog371

Жыл бұрын

They’re not threatened, they’re just not gonna use up server space for phones several years old. Should we be complaining that we can’t buy a disc with windows 95 on it?

@danielpassigmailcom

Жыл бұрын

@@ganymedehedgehog371 One can buy a disc with Windows 95 on it.

With how long this problem has been going on & how they're aware of it; I doubt they care. I hope they get sued for doing this in all honesty especially as this is definately illegal & that they're fully aware of it & did it themselves.

@hunterleach5710

Жыл бұрын

I agree 100% with you

@fynkozari9271

Жыл бұрын

Apple taking anti consumer to the next level.

@REXae86

Жыл бұрын

Barely anyone is having an issue, so nobody cares enough to do that.

@REXae86

Жыл бұрын

@@fynkozari9271 pro consumer

@Sythorize

Жыл бұрын

Its not illegal. Buy a newer phone. The phone turns on thats all they guarentee.

This is what you sign up for if you go for a closed system like ios. I had a old phone that wasn't being updated anymore I couldn't use bank apps anymore. So I flashed the old phone with lineageOS and everything works again. And the phone feels faster and stable compared to the software it was running before.

I have a jailbroken 6s+. Weird thing happened: I didn't use it for a long time, and it just completely died; it wouldn't even charge. I bought a replacement charging board and replaced it, after another long while, exactly the same thing.

Wow, I never thought a phone could be bricked for being "old"

@TheDiner50

Жыл бұрын

Id cards are bricked and blocked for being "old" Quite sure you have to pay to get a new card too when they expire. Or you sit on it and bend the card. I mean I never thought my identity could be question for being "old" too. :)

@animusfollus5941

Жыл бұрын

My iPad Air 2 was iOS 13 and it suddenly entered a boot loop. So I was forced to upgrade it to iOS 15 and it was fucking slow, it was unusable until it had the same issue 2 days later. Thanks apple for leaving me with a dead iPad and lost pictures. In a few years will we have pop up screen such as “Buy a new iPad” or “pay 50$ for 1 more year of use” ?

@jari2018

Жыл бұрын

if i want to sell more i would do as apple

@archiiebarrett

Жыл бұрын

Wait until you want to buy an old used EV. Why do you think they want you to drive them?

@manitoba-op4jx

Жыл бұрын

literally every pre-4g device would like to have a word with you

Despite the inconvenience, Apple should never take down any activation servers, no matter how old the device they’re for is. There’s got to be some kind of software that overrides the activation error/operating system without jailbreaking device and allows for users with a bricked iPhone 6 to continue using it.

@michealpersicko9531

Жыл бұрын

Especially if it's being used in an environment that usually is slow to upgrade tech like government jobs and banks. Can you imagine someone trying to use their work phone and all of a sudden it just bricks itself? I'd be pretty fucking livid

@ddylan4cats

Жыл бұрын

@@michealpersicko9531 I guess that you don't actually ever "own" an iPhone. You have the device and can do what you want on it, but its software is eternally controlled by Apple, and they can choose brick it anytime. See: kzread.info/dash/bejne/iqGfqNGJhpiqc8o.html

@axd2312

Жыл бұрын

@@ddylan4cats So in short apple is authoritarian and totalitarian

@blahajenjoyr

Жыл бұрын

@@ddylan4cats sounds familiar

@coomcake

Жыл бұрын

@@michealpersicko9531government and banking users are not running 10 years outdated software. Very much the opposite. A lot of old versions will have limited or no internet access due to outdated security protocols. That's from the server side. Who's getting hit with this are hobbyists.

I still have and use my iPhone 6 Plus that I’ve had since it came out I believe in 2015. It’s been and still is a great phone for my needs. I was thinking about the iPhone 14 but the price through me off so I’ll just keep my iPhone 6 Plus until it dies or I just can’t use it any longer.

Car, appliance, furniture companies have been doing this for years. Once upon a time products were built to last but corporations are greedy so they build them to break/shut down after a certain amount of time. Complete madness and we as the consumer are screwed over.

@Jimwill01

Жыл бұрын

My brother made the mistake of buying a Mahindra tractor. Then he found out only Mahindra dealers could work on them! No shade tree mechanic, no John Deer mechanic. ONLY Mahindra dealers!

I'm truly grateful for this video. Thank you! My original iPhone 6s, which was running iOS 9.0 untethered jailbreak around the time of 2017, was almost rendered useless because it randomly froze and entered a bootloop. Fortunately, I didn't lose any photos or other personal information, but it now runs iOS 10.3.3. Despite this, I do have a number of iPhone 6s models that are just gathering dust as a result of the activation problem. Some of these models had already been activated before the problem occurred, but others I am unable to use and all are in between iOS 9.0 - 9.1.... Once more, I appreciate you bringing up this issue since it has been ongoing for a while now (I mean years) and needs to be fixed. ❤❤

I really really hate the fact that we don't own the very expensive devices we pay for

@mynameisnotyours

Жыл бұрын

Here's the solution: don't spend money on things you don't own.

@DelimiterFrameworks

Жыл бұрын

@@cobrazoid wtf???

@mynameisnotyours

Жыл бұрын

@@choppings54 None of the parts in my pc were loaned to me. I own a phone I actually own. AKA not an Apple or similar phone.

@Connectitthefancollector

Жыл бұрын

This is why no one should be products nowadays due to all this stupid smart stuff and subscriptions. Stick with older products that were actually made to last

@robkam643400

Жыл бұрын

That's why people use Linux and CalyxOS. Near total control.

And this is im very glad to have Windows or Android when you can stop using and if you wanna reuse for a very long time, you still have the files or documents. If backup the photos or other files then transfer from apple devices to the good ol PC. I was reading that some needs a Brand Sim card to get activated otherwise you cant activate that. Ipad works well tho so they arent soo much anti cosnumer like the iphones ones, except you got a sim lock free iphone....

I had to buy a new phone cos the app I used to buy tram tickets with suddenly stopped supporting my iOS version. That app ran perfectly fine on other phones less advanced but for security reasons was no longer supported. They simply remove the OS code from the install text file. Developers do it, otherwise their apps gets removed. You know its f.. up when you can log into a bank but not buy a train ticket with the same phone.

As someone who used iOS 6 exclusively until earlier this year ('thanks" T-mobile), it's been infuriating coming to iOS 15 and finding out just how tight Apple's death grip has become. I block as many of Apple's update servers as possible by hijacking the 'encrypted DNS profile' feature to avoid the 'update available' harassment notifications and hopefully prevent at least some things like this. But the fact that I can't even launch downloaded applications for the first time without letting them contact an iTunes server is so stupid.

@BillOweninOttawa

Жыл бұрын

Stop using them.

@andrewlim300

Жыл бұрын

The way tech companies are forcing obsolescence is unacceptable, bricking perfectly usable phones with contrived error messages or forcing updates packed with so much needless bloat that it slows down the phone with older hardware. I hate to say this but it is time for the government to step in and force these tech companies to clean up their act and curtail their monopoly over the ownership of our devices.

@avenged110

Жыл бұрын

@@BillOweninOttawa Only other option is Android, which I hate even more for different reasons.

@alexanderbrennan1984

Жыл бұрын

@@avenged110 why do you hate android? /genq

@avenged110

Жыл бұрын

@@alexanderbrennan1984 It's absolutely hideous (modern iOS is ugly, too, but this is so much worse). I really don't like how it works. AFAIK there aren't any nice, reasonably sized, well-spec'd devices (like Apple's so-called 'mini'). _All_ my devices are from Apple, so that's not going to turn out well.

I bought a new-in-box iPhone 6s recently that was on iOS 9. Couldn't activate it on the original firmware so had to upgrade it to iOS 15. Not exactly what I wanted to do, but nevertheless I had to. Hopefully some regulatory pressure in the future can force Apple to allow users to downgrade their phones.

@markm0000

Жыл бұрын

There’s no way in h e double hokey sticks.

@perpetualcollapse

Жыл бұрын

@@markm0000 That’s what people said about USB-C and third-party apps/app stores

@jfbeam

Жыл бұрын

Apple will never allow downgrades. The point being it would re-introduce known (fixed?) bugs.

@Sea_Star

Жыл бұрын

@@jfbeam That's what regulatory pressure is for

@zetsubou3704

Жыл бұрын

@@jfbeam Bug fixes are supposed to be on the same software version and there almost always should be a stable release of your favorite version. There's no need to upgrade your entire OS to fix a bug, it's absolutely dumb and ridiculous.

i am just so curious in what you mean by " the phone accesing a server for activation codes " through what does it access it?..is it a process which requires internet connection so through wifi or what ? some other antena ? really asking

@Brightonize

6 ай бұрын

I know this is late, but basically yes. The iPhone has to connect to Apple's activation servers for activation, and it requires either a mobile phone connection or a WI FI connection to do so.

I loved my 6S, it was a solid phone. Mine is issued by my employer, so it got replaced after two years, but it has always been my favorite. I think it was very popular and ppl were keeping them, so Apple not so low key killed it.

@AttorneyBCollins

Жыл бұрын

If you would update it, it would still work for who knows how long. My 1st gen SE is running 15.7.3 It is affecting phones with lower software. ios. 9 and older are being bricked.

@AttorneyBCollins

Жыл бұрын

Not saying they won't ever brick 15.7.3. Of course they will.

Being into 80's and 90's retro equipment, I think I'm the most fortunate to have the best pre-internet era had to offer, during my childhood. I can authentically re-experience every item, replay any game, and no one is able to lock me out, because of this activation thing, that only became common this century. Kids who are growing up with gadgets that they will want to have again in their 30's and 40's - they'll have nothing. The generation growing up right now, will have nothing but archived youtube videos to look at, and maybe some VR virtual arcade type thing. I personally loved and used Pebble watches, when they were around. Then FitBit bought them, and eventually removed all software support for legacy devices. You can still buy a new unused, unopened pebble from any generation that was released, but good luck pairing it up with a modern phone. Same thing. And I knew this was going to happen. The moment any purchase requires me to go online for anything, I think to myself: "Here we go again. If I knew ahead of time, I wouldn't have bought it."

@KuptisOriginal

Жыл бұрын

Yep, and when you bought a game it was a one-time purchase. No added micro-transactions to get in-game perks/features or added content. Content that was added later like many Sims add-on packs you would pay for but it would still just cost for the add-on content and no added micro-transactions in those as well. If you didn't want your software anymore you could sell it. Not so nowadays since in order to run/play software one has to create an online account. I wish we could go back in time to that way of using software but keep the current graphics quality, especially in games.

@mardukmd2274

Жыл бұрын

yep my nokia 3210 and 7110 work perfectly! hope to find a new oldstock zire 71.

@SoupyMittens

Жыл бұрын

yeah all I'll have left is my fricken n64 that barely functions

@-bold5999

Жыл бұрын

@@KuptisOriginal don't buy games/software that have microtransactions or require online account then. Play other games or use other software.

@-bold5999

Жыл бұрын

What are you talking about? You'll be able to use most computers and most android phones in 10 or 15 years. Just not apple ones.

This is insane… I hope there‘re some lawsuits heading to Apple soon.

@flaviokonti5522

Жыл бұрын

Lawsuits are peanuts for them when you compare with how much they earn on selling new phones. Only way to hurt them is stop buying their products alltogether

@ezhikebaniy

Жыл бұрын

@@flaviokonti5522 or go and simply beat Tim Cook :P

@Aciimov

Жыл бұрын

@@ezhikebaniy may I join you?

@SlartiMarvinbartfast

Жыл бұрын

@@flaviokonti5522 Agreed, I wish people would stop buying their over-priced crap.

@davidlloyd1526

Жыл бұрын

What is the ground for the lawsuit "I'm too dumb to use this phone"?

I had an Iphone 6 from 2015 to 2022. It always worked fine until a certain update in late 2022. After that update the phone will reset itself all the time randomly when using application. There was never anything wrong with that phone. I'm 100% sure the resets were caused by the update, a way to force peoples to upgrade to new phones. That phone basically became totally unusable overnight.

@AJ-wf1vh

Жыл бұрын

your battery is probably dead. When opening an app the CPU can cause voltage spikes and because the batter is bad the phone shuts off

@tictactaylor5255

Жыл бұрын

@@AJ-wf1vh unlikely

@haomingli6175

Жыл бұрын

Actually good luck even trying to keep using an Android phone for 7 years.

@Donyourmom

Жыл бұрын

@@tictactaylor5255no, not unlikely. It does sound like a dead battery.

@itsrichev

Жыл бұрын

if what you meant by reset was "restart" or "shutdown", then as many others said, it could be the battery or the hardware itself, that can be affected by the software update too. the thing is, i have android phone that pretty much new, bought in 2020. but i experienced the same thing because of the battery. it eventually restart itself every time i make a call or even play media, and it has nothing to do with software locked or something. so better get battery replacement or any parts if you still consider to use it, or just leave it alone.

Only smartphone users would be okay with paying $1000 every year for a phone. Imagine if a car manufacture told you to buy a new car every year. 🤦‍♂️

I have an iphone 6s and have had it for years. I’ve replaced the battery myself over a year ago and will be doing it again soon. I refuse to get a newer iphone because I believe anything past the 6s is unnecessary and newer models remove useful hardware. This is really upsetting and I refuse to give Apple a dime until they start letting people own the products they buy

@9852323

Жыл бұрын

I agree 100% anything after the 6s is unnecessary and I need my headphone jack! I love my 6s and SE1

@Semi_Good

Жыл бұрын

I regret getting rid of my 6s plus. The replacer of the 6s plus was SE2020. It was faulty and ultimately make me change for android

@Lol5967

Жыл бұрын

I may move on from my 6s as main iPhone cause app support but I’ll definitely keep mine up and running as long as I can because imma still use it as a camera and a secondary phone. Yes I’m never giving mine away or selling it. This comment was typed on it btw.

@AndeyKurniawan

Жыл бұрын

dont upgrade beyond ios13. thats the perfect speed and efficiency for the phone. regretted it after upgrading to 14/15

@kaptain1477

Жыл бұрын

I was a Apple loyalist from the ipod to the iPhone 3 iPhone 4 ,6 and iPhone X when my phone was functioning perfectly then I updated the phone and the phones battery went crazy and wouldn't charge properly and would drain battery quickly Apple wouldn't fix it without me having to pay. So they basically brick my phone and ask me to pay to fix it. I dumped the iPhone X and switched to Android and never looked back. ANDROID 4 Life the amount of features and the hardware is solid and the open nature of the OS I will never buy a iPhone again in my life

Thank you Mr Jeffreys. I have a 6SE, which is perfect for my needs, and am one of your "not technologically inclined" users. I do appreciate your news items such as this, so that I can reluctantly upgrade the OS when commanded to. Best wishes to you for the New Year, hope you have not been affected by these dreadful floods of 2022.

@sihamhamda47

Жыл бұрын

I recommend you to immediately backup your data to your laptop/PC (if you have one) to save anything precious (photos, videos, and documents) in case something wrong happens on your iPhone

@GarbanzoBeansFan

Жыл бұрын

if youre not running io 9, then youre fine

@aussiefurbymogwaifan6621

Жыл бұрын

@@GarbanzoBeansFan I think it would be rare for people to be running ios 9 on the 6, as alot of people would of upgraded to whatever the last compatible ios was for the 6/6s

Another "workaround" though risky, jailbreak the device and block apples addresses in the dns. The riskier version is block the dns on your network but then if the phone connects to another network, well then... *Just saw the section about the jailbroken devices keeping the activation codes*

iPhone 8 did latest update, battery immediately went from full day to literally 6 hours, and connectivity went from never skipping a beat to SOS only, all overnight. Can’t wait for the Tesla phone to come out.

The reasons are very clear and become more transparent as days go by. Companies don't want consumers using good products for a longer period of time which don't break easily. It works against their favor (revenues). I've had a similar incident with the Xiaomi mi4 that I believe released at the same time as the iPhone 5. They look like distant relatives in appearance. The Xiaomi also started having frequent reboots and I thought it was the motherboard or battery but I searched online and found others affected just like me and it turned out to be a software update causing this.

@thewatcher5084

Жыл бұрын

i have a xiaomi mi 3. still using and dont have those problem except for lags.

This should be grounds for a class action - I personally swore never to own an apple product because of issues like this

This also happened to me on ios 7.1.2 on an iphone 4. I'm glad that I already got the data, but I wanted to use it after restoring. However the phone is so old, that I had forgotten the password to the apple id it was binded to, and now it doesn't go ahead of the activation screen no matter what

What laptop that he use in 8:23? I don't remember that type of macbook had extra port

Almost had a heart attack when you mentioned 6S. I still use a 6 as my main phone, so I'm relieved those aren't affected. This situation is ridiculous, though.

@jeremybennett5547

Жыл бұрын

I used my 6 till 2021. Was my first smart phone. Mine met it’s end for two reasons. Screen got demolished because it vibrated out of a window sill from a spam call and it shattered. I used it for several months more till one day the battery just decided it was done and I couldn’t use the phone without it being plugged in. I went and bought an iPhone SE that day. Feels like I have the same phone now but functional 😅

@heickelrrx

Жыл бұрын

if u on newer OS version that will not affect you

@00700556

Жыл бұрын

@@jeremybennett5547Upgrading to a new phone from that 6 is like a night and day difference. That phone did not age well.

@lsswappedcessna

Жыл бұрын

Man, I love those old dinosaur Apples. They used to be so good. My dad was gonna sell a survivor 1st gen ipod touch. I grabbed it right off the counter before the yard sale started. Unfortunately he had already wiped it, so I've gotta put all sorts of music back on it.

@jacobperez8921

Жыл бұрын

Absolutely! I still use my iPhone 6 as my music player since it has a headphone jack which my iPhone 14 Pro Max doesn't and this whole situation is ridiculous and Apple doesn't seem to care as they rather sell you a new phone than fix your older one.

Thanks for the video, I've shared it on my Facebook. Hope others do too as this needs to be addressed. I feel for all the people facing this issue.

I concur that manufacturers should not limit/restrict the user/owner from using a product purchased. One can always use it with the existing OS or previous for whatever purpose.

IDK why it's happening. My mom had replaced her IPhone 6s a few months ago because Apple ios 9 was unable to use and my mom couldn't backup her iPhone. Her new iPhone 14 is great and she's lovin it.

The worst part about this and the app store is that since Apple has certain cut offs for the iOS updates, if your phone is not on the latest or a more recent version, you can't download any applications unless you already have purchased them..

@uateme

Жыл бұрын

see, i locked myself out of an ipod 4. I lost ALL the things that are incompatible. Like minecraft

Wow !! Very valuable information and I thank you. I have, and have been using my old iPhone 6 w/ iOS version 12.5.5 since someone had stolen my iPhone 8 Plus. I hope nothing happens to this iPhone 6 like bricking or anything. But I feel that Apple is very well aware of what they have done; some refer to it as “churning,” in the phone business world. So that one will flip-out and go spend a Shit-Ton of $$$ on a new phone. Thanks again!! Appreciate your videos 👍👍 ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️

I've been saying it for years. Right to repair legislation is pointless unless users are granted root access and unlocked bootloaders.

slightly off topic, but I think that in settings there should be an option for swipe to unlock, either from left to right or bottom to top

thanks Hugh for continuing to address these iPhone issues!

Apple made great products, my mom is still using the 6S. But god dang they are greedy Its like waking up one day to find your car is bricked because the ECU couldn't access the remote server

@dlewis9760

Жыл бұрын

And you get told "Sucks to be you" when you ask them to resolve it.

@priyapepsi

Жыл бұрын

John Deere does this with their tractors, funnily (sadly) enough

I was curious on if I went to purchase an older iphone or ipad gen 1-4 if I'd be able to download older app games mostly if that one app wont work on new version devices or will it only work if that app is already installed/purchased on those older devices? Yes, I am interested in just using a spare just to get access to Mindsnacks again since I seen a few still able to play it on their old devices on YT but the app itself in general is no longer of use saying "The developer of this app needs to update to work for your version" on gen 5 and newer devices. They went ahead to make Elevate. Please and thank you!

I have a 6s with the latest updates (Ver. 15). So if I crash my iPhone and need to reinstall, it might not let me? Makes me a little nervous. So I can never pass this phone on to another person. I've got an old backup-could do a fresh one. Don't even know if its the right kind of back up. I at least, have not had problems, but I am not jail-breaked or using ios 9 on the phone or trying resell my phone. Good to know there are issues in advance, though. Thanks. My old iPad 3 is on ios 9 and only limited apps still work on it. Kindle app is the only app that will still work for library ebooks. At least both my devices still work. I have had more problems with printers and their damn proprietary ink.

I nearly had a heart attack when I saw this. I thought this was a new issue. But no, I went through this a while ago with my 6S. At the time I was terrified for days, looking for a solution, as I had never backed my phone up before. Stupid, I know. But in the end I was able to update the ios and everything was fine. I really could have used an actual guide for how to fix the problem though. It was ridiculous and I'm shocked that this was actually a widespread problem. Glad its finally getting attention, even though I resolved it

i use a 6s as my personal phone, and xr as a work phone. other than the 16 gigs of storage and battery, it’s still solid. bought a 6s plus on 13.3 with 64 gigs as my upgrade. love the 6s.

I would brute force the iOS 10 or some version that is supported by using fast boot and rooting it with computer, but I'm not sure if it has "fast boot"

It sounds like an omission on Apple's part. The intention was probably to force an upgrade on those devices for some reason but they did not consider people might be unboxing phones with factory software several years down the line. This is obviously a problem but it affects so few people it'd be pretty hard to get people to fix it. The instructions on the error message should work though. You should be able to update and activate the device using a PC, in that case, from Apple's perspective this is a non-issue.

I like how sometimes Reddit thread rabbithole can give more context than actual forums and news sources.

@edwardcanez

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Sometimes?

@rostyc

Жыл бұрын

@@edwardcanez always ;)

@Jakepearl13

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Yeah,but don’t give em a pass just for that.

This is a good example of why I have changed over to a Samsung. When I had my last iphone I never felt that it was mine, but was still belonged to apple and I just was allowed to borrow it in spite of paying a premium to own a apple. They could update when they wanted and it was mainly to apples benefit more than mine. Good that you are highlighting the issue.

@chrisdavidson911

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"They could update when they wanted" - you know you can turn off automatic updates? At least it could actually be updated.

@CTE-6000EagleVeryHeavyFighter

Жыл бұрын

Enjoy just 2 years of software and security updates

@V0ID_beats

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@@CTE-6000EagleVeryHeavyFighter it’s not 2 years though

@fa14bi-78

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@@CTE-6000EagleVeryHeavyFighter It's 5 Years but oh well.

@BlackWACat

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>They could update when they wanted what? literally not a thing, turn autoupdates off lmao i was literally on iOS12 when 15 came out

In 2010, T-Mobile kept interrupting my service because they didn't like I was using a borderline obsolete Blackberry. I'd try and call out and then get their jingle about "new and exciting phones for purchase" and wouldn't be able to connect with the person I wanted to talk to. I'd talk to customer service and they'd fix it for like a day, then back to the automated message. I switched to Verizon.

Im using my old iphone6 and I dont plan to update to a newer one. even it is falling apart. but I like the size of it. i even got robbed and they give back to me after look at it... Im planing to buy another from aliexpress...

I was going to buy the latest iPhone on the grounds that at least the camera and basic functions would still work long after the security patches stop so that it works out as a few dollars a week over it's lifetime. I'd take my fair chances on natural durability but not on the possibility that Apple may decide to totally brick it at a whim. This video has saved me a lot of money.

I bought my 6s brand new when they were still fairly new models. It still works till this day and just recently had the battery replaced. I’ve dropped it numerous times, but thanks to an otter box case it is still pristine. Call me old school but I like my headphone Jack

@nyccollin

Жыл бұрын

You know you can easily convert lightning to aux right?

@YCStudios_greece

Жыл бұрын

​@@nyccollinyeah but How are you going to charge

@nyccollin

Жыл бұрын

True haha.

@NYPATRIOTBX

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@@nyccollin why convert when I have both already 🤷🏻‍♂️

@NYPATRIOTBX

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@@YCStudios_greece they actually do have a split adapter with a charge and a headphone Jack.

That's why you guys should have a Consumer law to protect people from these issues. Here in Brazil we have it, if we buy a brand new phone, even if it's old, and its fully working but it's software is bricking it for no reason, we can use those laws that protect consumers to at least make apple pay some fines until they fix the issues or give us our money back. The very least they should do is pay people back for the money spent if they want to do this. That's also why I kinda hate Apple and how anti consumer they tend to be.

i used to have that model glad i transfered to a ten then now a 13

Legislate legislate legislate. The free market and "competition" isn't fixing anything, and the argument is nothing but a red herring to allow these OEMs to continue as-is. Consumers will continue to buy devices with obsolescence built in and repairability not just an afterthought, but made impossible with modern manufacturing techniques. Right to Repair, Right to Privacy + Universal Opt-Out, Right to Data.

@MrTheinfoman

Жыл бұрын

Or simple don't buy apple product simple as that BTW Legislate by some corrupt people in politics (hard reality)

@videocommenter235

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@@MrTheinfoman You are a naive person if you believe those words. no name is right.

@elodgubcsi

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The market has the power to correct mistakes. But when consumers aren't aware or don't care, it won't happen. Legislations should never be the answer to a lack of aware consumers in a market. Companies will always be profit oriented and if a legislation prevents them from being that, they'll find a way to get around that. And that's alright

@PvtAnonymous

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@@elodgubcsi this. People always turn down the idea of a free market. But the free market was a concept based on knowledge and intelligence. If you make smart buying decisions, the free market will take care of every problem eventually. Now the thing is, since Wish and similar scam sites exist, I've lost all faith in the free market.

@YearsOfLeadPoisoning

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@@elodgubcsi Clearly consumer awareness isn't relevant when Apple only continues to expand their market share just as quickly as they lock their devices down. Having a repairable device doesn't matter to 99% of consumers.

This affects older iPod Touch also. I'm not sure what model I have but I made the mistake of resetting an old iPod Touch a year ago, to use in a car that has an iphone port. After the reset I could only get as far as this same error you are showing. Being an older device, it can't be upgraded past iOS 9.

I remember when iOS 7 made my iPhone 4 take 4 times longer to do anything. Then I got an iPhone 6, updated it to the newest version of ios8 and never updated it again and it lasted 5 years until the battery started not holding a charge

Very likely what happened is that since iOS update adoption rate is so high, at least compared to things like Android, no one noticed. Since a software update fixes issues like this, very likely people didn't link the bricking to the specific iOS version. Also, I haven't used iTunes or the device section of Finder lately but I'm pretty sure that when you're in recovery mode you can update the phone without data loss just by clicking update. I used this once to downgrade from a beta version of iOS since you can't restore data from a newer version. Though to downgrade I had to download the IPSW and hold shift or control while pressing it and select the IPSW file to downgrade.

@thunderbolt10031

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It's not guaranteed to work. Back in 2018 when I was using the god awful iOS 11 beta, I tried so desperately to downgrade to iOS 10 and it never worked. When I tried, iOS 10 was so broken that it was unusable and on top of it, half the data on the device was missing. I had to bite the bullet and restore and stay on 11.

@lieutent2654

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@@thunderbolt10031 yeah, unfortunately that’s the risk some of us take installing beta software on our personal phones lol. Sometimes I just feel impatient to wait so many months for those cool features they talk about on stage. But, I was also using my example of downgrading to say I know you can update from recovery mode. You don’t have to restore. I’m sure going up a version isn’t nearly as difficult as going down a version.

My 6S plus had the same fate, bricked for being too old. I loved that phone a lot as it was a present and now it’s bricked.😢