Older Grapplers | How to Still Beat the Younger Grapplers
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@mikehenry795 жыл бұрын
Solid advice. I rolled with Roy a few times in North Carolina shortly after getting my purple belt. I can attest for anyone who finds this on KZread that Roy's pressure and control is almost shocking, especially in light of the fact that he's a perfectly normal sized guy. Just as he describes here, he neutralizes the typical athleticism "advantages" (younger, stronger, bigger, faster, etc.) in short order. By the time he started hunting submissions, I was desperate just to get out from under him. Some of the more memorable rolls of my BJJ career thus far.
@dragonballjiujitsu7 ай бұрын
One of the best videos on Jiu-Jitsu I've seen. These are the things I have been saying for years.
@artisking96085 жыл бұрын
Great Advice! I'm 49, this helps
@jessegandy7361 Жыл бұрын
Very good points here. You're exactly right sir.
@gordonstromkins40743 жыл бұрын
As a 65-year-old Brown Belt I didn't find this very useful, as it assumes you can get on top to apply pressure. My own game is based on being perfectly happy on the bottom, or the top, and "inspiring" my partner into working harder. I consider it a victory if each person I roll with ends up bright red and puffing....
@roymarshjiujitsu
3 жыл бұрын
ideally, I'm on top yes. But, in the video I explicitly talk about playing guards that limit movement and maximise control so that I don't have to outpace or outwork my opponents. I also prioritise guards where I can use my weight from the bottom and use the power of overhooks and underhooks rather than grips and open guards that allow too many options. Lastly, I prioritise sweeping as my guard action so I can try to get on top if possible. I discuss this some in the video
@duckyfrogdogkim3546
Жыл бұрын
@@roymarshjiujitsu is there a video instructional on how to perform this exactly? because ive been using your method and having great success with most people except those who are wrestlers and athletic higher belts.
@rodneyhorne96152 жыл бұрын
I'm 49 and I've been in BJJ about a month now at Triad BJJ in Archdale NC. It has been exhausting chasing these young guys around and I was getting hurt in some way every class. I did the things in this video today and it changed everything. The young guys were exhausted and I actually got a blue belt in side control (hopefully, he didn't let me). Everything in this video was right on. Right down to a guy trying to bench press me off. I will definitely be following Roy's advice going forward.
@sustainablejiujitsu3 жыл бұрын
Superb advice well said Roy 👌
@roymarshjiujitsu
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you. I have a quick question. I noticed this video getting a lot more views in the past week. Was it posted somewhere?
@sustainablejiujitsu
3 жыл бұрын
I came across it on KZread as I couldn’t agree more and feel the same so maybe it lined up more that were alike ? A gentleman friend in Germany speaks highly of you (mirco)so I checked it out. Love it I’m with you there 👍 Thank you
@roymarshjiujitsu
3 жыл бұрын
@@sustainablejiujitsu thanks. It’s great to meet others who are on the same page as me. So, it’s fantastic to know you
@mircow.
2 жыл бұрын
@sustainable Jiu Jitsu/James: glad you like it👍🏼👍🏼😉…
@miguelpagan84365 жыл бұрын
So true , and thank you.
@bananapatch91183 жыл бұрын
59 and overweight. I started GJJ 3 weeks ago and love it ! I’ve been an mma junkie since UFC 1. I do have one concern…I have never had knee issues but since starting GJJ class my knees are stiff and sore. I ordered some asics gel knee pads and hope they will help. Thoughts ? And at 5’10 245 I hope to learn your weight n pressure game. Thx !
@roymarshjiujitsu
3 жыл бұрын
I had knee surgery back in 2011 and started wearing knee pads and braces after that. I still wear them every time I train now. I just like the stability they give me.
@11147575
3 жыл бұрын
@@roymarshjiujitsu Same here guys... 64 and started 7 months ago, always wear gel knee braces,with knee pads over them.. Really help to stabize and cushion, without inhibiting movement.. I also wear a compression Arch support and ankle brace due to constant Plantar faschitis Anything I can do to keep up the training, cause I'm really enjoying it..
@ddtrader1755
Жыл бұрын
@@11147575 Respect!!
@justinmarkow61173 жыл бұрын
This is jiu jitsu! Great stuff!
@roymarshjiujitsu
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@davidtice49725 жыл бұрын
I'm older than anybody here. I just teach and work on techniques. I roll once in awhile.
@poivrefrancais81045 жыл бұрын
Prof, this is great advice, and here's the BUT... What if you've come to grappling late (eg 60) and you never learnt the heavy pressure top game, and it never feels like you'll ever learn the heavy pressure top game because you're always the recipient of someone else's game. I'm 12 months in and learning how to survive and escape but rarely do I get on top. These young guys come at meet like an express freight train. I can contain them and came them done, but a pressure top game seems a long way off. What are your top 3 recommendations for the older new grappler who wants to get into a position to use a pressure top game? Tnx
@roymarshjiujitsu
5 жыл бұрын
Great question! First, I would focus on learning to defend and escape as well as learn more control based guards first. This is true of everyone who starts jiu-jitsu. That should be your first priority, Second, talk to some of your training partners and ask them to let you practice just being on top. Ask them not to try hard to escape or to put you in guard - or, if they do, to let you start back in a dominant position. I have to imagine you have some training partners who are relaxed and humble enough to let you do this, Third, set small goals. Don't even worry about submissions. Make your victories things like passing a guard or escaping a mount or pinning someone for 30 seconds. If you make your goals big (tap the 20 year old beast, for instance) then you will always be disappointed. I'll add one thing. I don't escape side control to guard very often. I usually fight for underhooks and come up to my knees for waste control (see Lucas Leite's Coyote Guard for an example). Underhooks and escaping back to having my hips facing down is a huge part of what gets me on top. I#m not trying to be cheesy and plug my stuff but I do have a seminar I filmed about escaping pins that I sell (very cheap) if you're interested. graciemuenster.com/store/ Let me know if this helps or if you have more questions!
@poivrefrancais8104
5 жыл бұрын
@@roymarshjiujitsu Prof, Thanks for taking the time to answer. I am fortunate to have a couple of excellent instructor who will roll (for 15mins!!!) in order for me to 'see' things by doing 'catch and release'. This, and a crappy knee) took us to side escape->half-guard with underhook->slight back climb->seat belt. All good. Then the leap to full pressure execution.....It will come, I know. I admire you ugly, lovely, pressure game. Executing it slowly, powerfully and crushingly at minimal exertion. Thats the goal. But let me bring in another of your videos too. The 5 S's. Now when I get into that half-guard-ish position, my first response is stand-up. That response, more than anything, get admiring comments from the 20 y'olds. I'm going to be seeing Ross H next week (whom I think you know well). I'll be getting his assistance on this matter. I'll look at your video now. Again, thanks for taking the time to respond
@poivrefrancais8104
5 жыл бұрын
Purchased!
@MesGuided
3 жыл бұрын
@@poivrefrancais8104 what are the 5 S's?? What video is that referencing?
@poivrefrancais8104
3 жыл бұрын
@@MesGuided From each position (specifically guard), how do you 1. Survive, 2. Stand-up. 3. Sweep 4. Submit 5 Strike.
@aaronholland27715 жыл бұрын
How does this translate to takedowns? I’m hoping sacrifice throws might be one answer.
@roymarshjiujitsu
5 жыл бұрын
I focus a lot of my throws on working from the clinch and doing armdrags or trips. Think Greco but with some leg work involved. And, yes, I really love sacrifice throws. Sumi Gaeshi and Tani Otoshi are two favorites of mine
@abc80s74
5 жыл бұрын
Im 50 year old blue belt great advice i try to do this all the time
@omardiangeloarteaga48753 жыл бұрын
Focus on the technical side. Have tecnchical solutions to phisical problems
@MonacoRocha3 жыл бұрын
I've Been In Great Shape Since 1965 TKD,Karate Boxing Swimming, Long Distance Running, Gymnastics,Yoga Ect. I train Everyday ,Very Flexible... AM I TOO OLD TO START TRAINING BJJ...??I Live in Montreal 15 min. Drive From Tristar Gym ( Firas Zahabi) George St.Pierre's Training Gym..... What do you think??
@roymarshjiujitsu
3 жыл бұрын
I think you are never too old to start training. I will say, however, that not every gym is the same. Some gyms are great places for people of all ages to train and some I would steer very far away from as they won't be concerned with people's safety. Go visit and speak to the instructor. If everyone there is between 18-28 and the techniques seem designed for an elite athlete then you're not going to find a good fit - even if you are in good shape.
@MonacoRocha
3 жыл бұрын
@@roymarshjiujitsu Roy Thank You For The Fast Reply... I found This Great Instructor He Trained with The Behring( Silvio) Family In Rio for 25 years .. I am Interested In SELF DEFENCE BJJ Not COMPETITION...!! OLD SCHOOL RICKSON GRACIE SELF DEFENCE...Before Covid I Checked out Many Gyms Some are Stupid & Scary Lots of guys Students With Big Injuries... Like Everything else On This Planet Even BJJ is Being Poisoned By Greed & Stupidity...I want to train 1 technique a week Learn that Well.. so 52 weeks a year if I learn 25 techniques well that year Is Great Even if I learn 20 is Great.. No Rush & No Fast Aggressive moves I stay away from Young Stupid Schools .. I've seen some Gyms (Gracie Barra) Montreal Train 6 techniques in a 1 hour class... Show the Technique thats WAY OVER THE HEADS OF WHITE BELTS & DRILL THAT TECHNIQUE FOR 2 min.. then NEXT TECHNIQUE... ARE THESE PEOPLE STUPID.. How can you even begin to understand a Technique in 2 F Min...????? I want to Train SLOW No EGO .... THANK YOU ROY
@kdb5605 жыл бұрын
Gotta get my sorry, old (66) blue belt ass to where yer at Professor! Hehehe, any chance of a camp in the future?
@davidtice49725 жыл бұрын
If you already have been training for years then lift weights more.
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Solid advice. I rolled with Roy a few times in North Carolina shortly after getting my purple belt. I can attest for anyone who finds this on KZread that Roy's pressure and control is almost shocking, especially in light of the fact that he's a perfectly normal sized guy. Just as he describes here, he neutralizes the typical athleticism "advantages" (younger, stronger, bigger, faster, etc.) in short order. By the time he started hunting submissions, I was desperate just to get out from under him. Some of the more memorable rolls of my BJJ career thus far.
One of the best videos on Jiu-Jitsu I've seen. These are the things I have been saying for years.
Great Advice! I'm 49, this helps
Very good points here. You're exactly right sir.
As a 65-year-old Brown Belt I didn't find this very useful, as it assumes you can get on top to apply pressure. My own game is based on being perfectly happy on the bottom, or the top, and "inspiring" my partner into working harder. I consider it a victory if each person I roll with ends up bright red and puffing....
@roymarshjiujitsu
3 жыл бұрын
ideally, I'm on top yes. But, in the video I explicitly talk about playing guards that limit movement and maximise control so that I don't have to outpace or outwork my opponents. I also prioritise guards where I can use my weight from the bottom and use the power of overhooks and underhooks rather than grips and open guards that allow too many options. Lastly, I prioritise sweeping as my guard action so I can try to get on top if possible. I discuss this some in the video
@duckyfrogdogkim3546
Жыл бұрын
@@roymarshjiujitsu is there a video instructional on how to perform this exactly? because ive been using your method and having great success with most people except those who are wrestlers and athletic higher belts.
I'm 49 and I've been in BJJ about a month now at Triad BJJ in Archdale NC. It has been exhausting chasing these young guys around and I was getting hurt in some way every class. I did the things in this video today and it changed everything. The young guys were exhausted and I actually got a blue belt in side control (hopefully, he didn't let me). Everything in this video was right on. Right down to a guy trying to bench press me off. I will definitely be following Roy's advice going forward.
Superb advice well said Roy 👌
@roymarshjiujitsu
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you. I have a quick question. I noticed this video getting a lot more views in the past week. Was it posted somewhere?
@sustainablejiujitsu
3 жыл бұрын
I came across it on KZread as I couldn’t agree more and feel the same so maybe it lined up more that were alike ? A gentleman friend in Germany speaks highly of you (mirco)so I checked it out. Love it I’m with you there 👍 Thank you
@roymarshjiujitsu
3 жыл бұрын
@@sustainablejiujitsu thanks. It’s great to meet others who are on the same page as me. So, it’s fantastic to know you
@mircow.
2 жыл бұрын
@sustainable Jiu Jitsu/James: glad you like it👍🏼👍🏼😉…
So true , and thank you.
59 and overweight. I started GJJ 3 weeks ago and love it ! I’ve been an mma junkie since UFC 1. I do have one concern…I have never had knee issues but since starting GJJ class my knees are stiff and sore. I ordered some asics gel knee pads and hope they will help. Thoughts ? And at 5’10 245 I hope to learn your weight n pressure game. Thx !
@roymarshjiujitsu
3 жыл бұрын
I had knee surgery back in 2011 and started wearing knee pads and braces after that. I still wear them every time I train now. I just like the stability they give me.
@11147575
3 жыл бұрын
@@roymarshjiujitsu Same here guys... 64 and started 7 months ago, always wear gel knee braces,with knee pads over them.. Really help to stabize and cushion, without inhibiting movement.. I also wear a compression Arch support and ankle brace due to constant Plantar faschitis Anything I can do to keep up the training, cause I'm really enjoying it..
@ddtrader1755
Жыл бұрын
@@11147575 Respect!!
This is jiu jitsu! Great stuff!
@roymarshjiujitsu
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
I'm older than anybody here. I just teach and work on techniques. I roll once in awhile.
Prof, this is great advice, and here's the BUT... What if you've come to grappling late (eg 60) and you never learnt the heavy pressure top game, and it never feels like you'll ever learn the heavy pressure top game because you're always the recipient of someone else's game. I'm 12 months in and learning how to survive and escape but rarely do I get on top. These young guys come at meet like an express freight train. I can contain them and came them done, but a pressure top game seems a long way off. What are your top 3 recommendations for the older new grappler who wants to get into a position to use a pressure top game? Tnx
@roymarshjiujitsu
5 жыл бұрын
Great question! First, I would focus on learning to defend and escape as well as learn more control based guards first. This is true of everyone who starts jiu-jitsu. That should be your first priority, Second, talk to some of your training partners and ask them to let you practice just being on top. Ask them not to try hard to escape or to put you in guard - or, if they do, to let you start back in a dominant position. I have to imagine you have some training partners who are relaxed and humble enough to let you do this, Third, set small goals. Don't even worry about submissions. Make your victories things like passing a guard or escaping a mount or pinning someone for 30 seconds. If you make your goals big (tap the 20 year old beast, for instance) then you will always be disappointed. I'll add one thing. I don't escape side control to guard very often. I usually fight for underhooks and come up to my knees for waste control (see Lucas Leite's Coyote Guard for an example). Underhooks and escaping back to having my hips facing down is a huge part of what gets me on top. I#m not trying to be cheesy and plug my stuff but I do have a seminar I filmed about escaping pins that I sell (very cheap) if you're interested. graciemuenster.com/store/ Let me know if this helps or if you have more questions!
@poivrefrancais8104
5 жыл бұрын
@@roymarshjiujitsu Prof, Thanks for taking the time to answer. I am fortunate to have a couple of excellent instructor who will roll (for 15mins!!!) in order for me to 'see' things by doing 'catch and release'. This, and a crappy knee) took us to side escape->half-guard with underhook->slight back climb->seat belt. All good. Then the leap to full pressure execution.....It will come, I know. I admire you ugly, lovely, pressure game. Executing it slowly, powerfully and crushingly at minimal exertion. Thats the goal. But let me bring in another of your videos too. The 5 S's. Now when I get into that half-guard-ish position, my first response is stand-up. That response, more than anything, get admiring comments from the 20 y'olds. I'm going to be seeing Ross H next week (whom I think you know well). I'll be getting his assistance on this matter. I'll look at your video now. Again, thanks for taking the time to respond
@poivrefrancais8104
5 жыл бұрын
Purchased!
@MesGuided
3 жыл бұрын
@@poivrefrancais8104 what are the 5 S's?? What video is that referencing?
@poivrefrancais8104
3 жыл бұрын
@@MesGuided From each position (specifically guard), how do you 1. Survive, 2. Stand-up. 3. Sweep 4. Submit 5 Strike.
How does this translate to takedowns? I’m hoping sacrifice throws might be one answer.
@roymarshjiujitsu
5 жыл бұрын
I focus a lot of my throws on working from the clinch and doing armdrags or trips. Think Greco but with some leg work involved. And, yes, I really love sacrifice throws. Sumi Gaeshi and Tani Otoshi are two favorites of mine
@abc80s74
5 жыл бұрын
Im 50 year old blue belt great advice i try to do this all the time
Focus on the technical side. Have tecnchical solutions to phisical problems
I've Been In Great Shape Since 1965 TKD,Karate Boxing Swimming, Long Distance Running, Gymnastics,Yoga Ect. I train Everyday ,Very Flexible... AM I TOO OLD TO START TRAINING BJJ...??I Live in Montreal 15 min. Drive From Tristar Gym ( Firas Zahabi) George St.Pierre's Training Gym..... What do you think??
@roymarshjiujitsu
3 жыл бұрын
I think you are never too old to start training. I will say, however, that not every gym is the same. Some gyms are great places for people of all ages to train and some I would steer very far away from as they won't be concerned with people's safety. Go visit and speak to the instructor. If everyone there is between 18-28 and the techniques seem designed for an elite athlete then you're not going to find a good fit - even if you are in good shape.
@MonacoRocha
3 жыл бұрын
@@roymarshjiujitsu Roy Thank You For The Fast Reply... I found This Great Instructor He Trained with The Behring( Silvio) Family In Rio for 25 years .. I am Interested In SELF DEFENCE BJJ Not COMPETITION...!! OLD SCHOOL RICKSON GRACIE SELF DEFENCE...Before Covid I Checked out Many Gyms Some are Stupid & Scary Lots of guys Students With Big Injuries... Like Everything else On This Planet Even BJJ is Being Poisoned By Greed & Stupidity...I want to train 1 technique a week Learn that Well.. so 52 weeks a year if I learn 25 techniques well that year Is Great Even if I learn 20 is Great.. No Rush & No Fast Aggressive moves I stay away from Young Stupid Schools .. I've seen some Gyms (Gracie Barra) Montreal Train 6 techniques in a 1 hour class... Show the Technique thats WAY OVER THE HEADS OF WHITE BELTS & DRILL THAT TECHNIQUE FOR 2 min.. then NEXT TECHNIQUE... ARE THESE PEOPLE STUPID.. How can you even begin to understand a Technique in 2 F Min...????? I want to Train SLOW No EGO .... THANK YOU ROY
Gotta get my sorry, old (66) blue belt ass to where yer at Professor! Hehehe, any chance of a camp in the future?
If you already have been training for years then lift weights more.