Incoming rule change? 🤔

@jonnybaze7449

2 жыл бұрын

Hopefully, there needs to be a “clear path” rule.

@LilOak

2 жыл бұрын

it should be if no defender is between them and the goal line (or something). that'd be easy to review kinda like offsides in soccer.

@greatkentuckian9032

2 жыл бұрын

@@jonnybaze7449 I second. I feel that it if the player is most likely not going to injury themselves, it's free game.

@Myrrden

2 жыл бұрын

No.

@dougsholly9323

2 жыл бұрын

While it sucks in this instance, to change the rule you'd have to make it so verbose to cover all of the instances that it would be nearly impossible to enforce fairly. No chance they mess with it.

Imagine if this is the last play of the game, this would be crucial.

@jmwall24

2 жыл бұрын

At least it wouldn't end up being the actual last play, since the game can't end on a defensive penalty.

@lifetake3103

2 жыл бұрын

By the rules it literally couldn't

@mitchellhumphries3567

2 жыл бұрын

@Eugene then they should change the rules to where they review it to see if he intentionally ripped off the helmet to prevent him from scoring or advancing which I think is what happened here. And since there were no other defenders around him it should be ruled a touchdown by default. Because he did technically score.

@bigman8477

2 жыл бұрын

yeah the final was 30-3, woulda been so crucial

@flex5752

2 жыл бұрын

@Eugene who’s WE ?

"It's almost like the rule rewards a defensive player who rips off a helmet." That's how I feel about pass interference in college, and probably in the pros too. PI in college is only 15 yards. Sometimes it's better to take the penalty if you know you're beat.

@szkies_

2 жыл бұрын

fair point. that’s why i think the nfl does a better job at enforcing the rule when the ball is placed at the spot of the foul

@justbecause7402

2 жыл бұрын

Yes there is no room for "smart penalties" in any sport like in soccer they say "tactical foul" as if breaking the rules is good lol

@neverbackdown1918

2 жыл бұрын

@@justbecause7402 well, in basketball you foul at the end to get the ball back. That’s a smart penalty.

@micahtshibangu7402

2 жыл бұрын

@@justbecause7402 it you break a guy that's about to be a 1v1 with the goalie and tackle him just before the box then it's a smart penalty 😂

@MaximumEdits

2 жыл бұрын

The difference, though, is the player actually scored during this play, unlike a pass interference where you don't know if the player would have scored. It isn't a fair comparison.

This happened with Florida’s Dameon Pierce. Definitely needs to be a rule change. Ecspecially if they are running free.

@fkn_sent2232

2 жыл бұрын

I was about to say what about the Florida game his came off at the 1 and I wanna say he got a unsportsmanlike for not going down like come on I'm sure more and more strict BS rules coming

@stephenbeck7222

2 жыл бұрын

They could have given the OU player here a penalty for continuing to run without a helmet, which would have been a dead ball foul and effectively canceled the face mask penalty (but still given OU the yardage gained on the play). Good discretion on the refs for letting him run since there was nobody around. But it’s a good rule that encourages players to give themselves up when they lose their helmet, whether it was a foul for their helmet coming off in the first place or not.

@jayjya

2 жыл бұрын

definitely doesn't need a rule change. its a good rule. dumb fans.

@carlosdanger788

2 жыл бұрын

@Eugene head injurys are going to kill football in 50 years, whod let their kids play with all the info coming out today about head trauma. letting someone play without their helmete is gross negligence and this is such a rarity it doesnt need a rule change to give refs the ability to screw it up

@bigalan3145

2 жыл бұрын

I believe, coming from the NFL rulebook but would be surprised if college doesn't have something like this, the refs can award a touchdown from a personal foul/ unsportsmanlike conduct when a runner has free run to the end zoned but was fouled to prevent it.

Need a rule change. Oklahoma should not be penalized and brought back 30 yards because of a penalty to the other team

@jacoblansky829

2 жыл бұрын

He wasn't called back for the penalty. If you watch closely his helmet came off.

@ammo1238

2 жыл бұрын

@@jacoblansky829 u must have cte

@jacoblansky829

2 жыл бұрын

@@ammo1238 He wasn't called back for the facemask. His helmet got pulled off. Helmets come off for various reasons including hard hits and the like. The rule is there for a very good reason.

@alexludavertigo6926

2 жыл бұрын

should be like offsides

@evilgramcrackr2910

2 жыл бұрын

@@jacoblansky829 I know the rule. My point is, it is a terrible rule. Why should Mario Williams be denied a touchdown just because his helmet was pulled off? It's not like there was anyone to tackle him, he was all alone. If that is the way the game can be played, anyone can just rip someone's helmet off and guarantee that they won't allow a touchdown. In other words, getting a penalty yourself is penalizing the other team for you ripping off their helmet. It needs to be changed.

Another irrational rule where no review can be allowed to impact the final decision. Wanting to stop a play when a player loses a helmet for safety’s sake is a good idea but if after a review it’s obvious there was no danger, like this, an officiating crew should be allowed to overrule. In fact, the rule actually encourages future ripping off of helmets by defenders in this situation.

@RoyalMela

2 жыл бұрын

The problem comes in when you have to judge if there was danger or not. Ballcarrier is slower than player chasing him, so when do you blow the play dead?

@paulzetterberg8081

2 жыл бұрын

Let’s be realistic though. No player is going to rip a player’s helmet off intentionally to prevent a touchdown. If they’re in a position to take their helmet off, they’ll also be in a position to tackle them normally with no foul.

@mae2759

2 жыл бұрын

Nobody will rip helmets off intentionally. If they're that close, they're going to tackle the runner. No need for a rule change for something that will probably never happen again.

@steven8955

2 жыл бұрын

This is definitely not “encouraging” people to rip off others helmets and besides, that’s a 15 yard penalty still, and you may not even get it off any way Intentionally going to rip it off to prevent a touchdown or any play could A. Work but still give them penalty yards B.Fail giving 15 extra yards on the play C.Fail and allowing the runner to get a touchdown and penalty yards on your teams next drive

@williammichaelloushin3727

2 жыл бұрын

@@RoyalMela maybe make a rule that the next opposing player to just touch him is called a tackle….and if the next opposing player actually tackles him it’s an unnecessary roughness penalty? 🤷‍♂️

Announcer: "If you know there's a free runner, why wouldn't you rip someone's helmet off" Answer: That would only work if you rip the runner's helmet off. Good luck with that.

@davidkinsey8657

2 жыл бұрын

And if you are in position to rip the runner's helmet off you should also be in position to tackle them.

@mishaelroy2026

2 жыл бұрын

well you can rip anybody on the field’s helmet off. hell, i think you take ur own off the ball is dead

@TrombonePirate

2 жыл бұрын

@@mishaelroy2026 the play is only dead if the runner loses helmet. If a blocker loses his helmet he just can't advance downfield to block. Not sure about defenders but the play isn't dead

@ZmannShow

2 жыл бұрын

@@TrombonePirate if it's a defender they have to stop pursuing the play. Essentially once your helmet's off you have to stop playing

@TAshifter88

2 жыл бұрын

As long as you hold onto the helmet real good, he’s not running anywhere. You don’t have to rip the helmet off to downgrade a TD to a 15-yard penalty..

It's almost like the rule rewards a defensive player who rips off a helmet. Though it is the responsibility of each player to make sure the helmet is strapped correctly so it won't come off.

@handshoesandhorsegrenades1848

2 жыл бұрын

You rip it off like this regardless of how well it fits

@aaroncatron2306

2 жыл бұрын

@@handshoesandhorsegrenades1848 Right, what I'm saying is that the way this rule is structured, it could create an incentive for a defensive player to save a touchdown by ripping off a loose helmet. This exposes the ball carrier to injury. If we're going to say that a fake slide is illegal because of the potential for injury it creates, then we have to say the same here.

@stevenmorrison4692

2 жыл бұрын

Not really any reward. More than likely your going to get a 15 yard flag.

@CS-wn2sz

2 жыл бұрын

All these players wear helmets that are too big for comfort reasons

@falcon1378

2 жыл бұрын

@@stevenmorrison4692 but in the future a player could rip off another player’s helmet at the goal-line in like a 5th overtime and he’d be awarded with a W for his team. Loopholes, Loopholes, Loopholes.

As a cb who doesn't tackle, but just takes helmets, this was a really legit play

@Brian-nw2bn

2 жыл бұрын

Underrated comment sir. Bravo

This in essence shows that football needs a 'clear path' rule like the NBA. Or whatever the rule is called when you take down the attacker as the last non-GK in soccer.

@paulrichards8704

2 жыл бұрын

In soccer it's called the denial of a goal-scoring opportunity

@bigben7509

2 жыл бұрын

@@paulrichards8704 In hockey that would be a penalty shot.

@yangsong5084

2 жыл бұрын

However, the football field is 100 yard long, and many scenarios the runner gets chased down from behind. imagine taking a tumble running full speed without a helmet. Thats a career ending injury waiting to happen

@smade62

2 жыл бұрын

@@yangsong5084 mans has a point

@AEMoreira81

2 жыл бұрын

@Eugene - Not just the game, the whole tournament as it was the first place game.

I feel like a reverse down by contact rule would be a good change. If the runners helmet comes off he needs to be only touched by another player to be down. Thoughts?

if theres a free lane to the endzone after the helmet comes off, they should let it play since theres no danger to the runner

@lifetake3103

2 жыл бұрын

kzread.info/dash/bejne/f6l_1KeCXda-c9o.html Yea chase down tackles are a thing.

@Deere55

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah we definitely need more judgement call rules for the refs .......

@At0mic1impact

2 жыл бұрын

@@lifetake3103 you're right. However, the video shows very little times during the chase down where their was helmet to helmet contact, which is illegal in college football anyway.

@redwall1521

2 жыл бұрын

@@At0mic1impact It doesn't matter if it's illegal, you're increasing (significantly, as well) the chances for a head or spinal injury.

I logically understand the rule as a way to stop a helmet less player from getting a potentially dangerous injury but at the same time I hate the rule.

@KBP120

2 жыл бұрын

Pussyville USA

@theodorixjohnson4336

2 жыл бұрын

On paper it makes sense but yeah in the real world it just rewards players ripping the helmet off a player if someone busts open, exactly like here, so now instead of an immediate touchdown because of epic play they still have to wade through goal line defense which is often the most difficult defense to break

@lucasng4712

2 жыл бұрын

@@theodorixjohnson4336 This has never happened before

@neverbackdown1918

2 жыл бұрын

@@theodorixjohnson4336 lol what? The Oregon player did not intentionally rip his helmet off, and this is an extremely rare play. This “reward” stops at this game. If you are in position to face mask, you are in position to tackle, so trying to tackle is the right decision.

@eduardopadilla9958

2 жыл бұрын

There's nothing logical about this ... He wasn't in no danger with the helmet off

"if there is a free runner why wouldn't you just take his helmet off" if you could take his helmet off then you should just be tackling. A facemask that rips a helmet off should count as a PF and one of two that will cause ejection.

@RMDx2

2 жыл бұрын

So why didnt the Oregon player just tackle here? That's your argument, right? Completely disproven by the video you just freakin watched 🤣

@kkoblens

2 жыл бұрын

@@RMDx2 he tried to you smooth brain. He didn't rip his helmet off on purpose just to cause 15 yd penalty. It happens in an instance.

@philipbernier6977

2 жыл бұрын

@@RMDx2 come on Randy

@WithTwoFlakes

2 жыл бұрын

(1) Common misconception about College Rules. The rule is NOT that two P/F's = ejection. It is 2 U/C's. (2) A facemask foul already is a P/F, that's why it is in Rule 9 Section 1

"15 yards from the end of the run" So....15 yards past the endzone? *Didn't think I would get replies to this. It's just a joke, ref should have said "from the spot of the foul," in my opinion.

@Jack44M

2 жыл бұрын

No....the ball is dead when his helmet came off. THAT is the end of the run. Any player who loses his helmet during a play CANNOT continue to participate in the play. It's 15 yds if he does.

@quentincampbell612

2 жыл бұрын

@@brandon737 ask Jason Witten

@sez1742

2 жыл бұрын

@@brandon737 which is why we should allow horse collar tackles. If we’re not addressing how his helmet came off in the first place (force of face mask)....then defenders should be allowed to “Roy Williams” some folks. Picking and choosing what to enforce. Dude wasn’t running and “surprise my helmet flops off”......it was forcefully removed by a hand to the face mask. Where’s Myles Garrett when you need him to give “pointers”??

@truthbetold1855

2 жыл бұрын

@Steven Andrews I wouldn't say automatic first downs are always to the benefit of the defense lol

@bradsmith2661

2 жыл бұрын

@@brandon737 "As an official I am not going to accept the potential liability..." Sounds like you're admitting that these rule changes concerning "safety" are really just a way for officials and leagues in general to cover their own ass. Rule changes like this are strictly political and financial decisions because at the end of the day it would cost more money from some bogus lawsuit from a butthurt player that changed his mind after the fact about accepting the risk of playing a game like this.

People are making too big of a deal about this rule. When was the last time you saw a TD get nullified because somebody's helmet was yanked off as they were proceeding to run into the endzone? It's incredibly rare and you aren't going to suddenly see a surge of defensive players attempting this "strategy." Ripping somebody's helmet off is not as easy as it seems.

@k3aintwittalking873

2 жыл бұрын

Thankyou someone with sense

@seanrojas

2 жыл бұрын

it's not that it's happened it's that we are trying to avoid it from happening again now that it has

@joe2lank

2 жыл бұрын

Because now this exploit is known. Teams could now easily adapt the strategy of try to grab the Facemask of a free runner. Worst case scenario is get a 15 yard penalty. Best case scenario is stop a touchdown. Additionally, should the helmet stay on and the runner scores, the penalty will be declined. It’s basically the same as DPI. If the QB is going for a long pass that is over 15 yards and the defender is able to interfere with the receiver, it is better for the defender to interfere and get a 15 yard penalty than leave any room for a pass completion.

@hesavedawretchlikeme6902

2 жыл бұрын

'Disagree with you.

“The runner will be dead” 😂😂😂

@supermariogalaxy376

2 жыл бұрын

He would if he got hit in the head without a helmet 😅

Who' up for practicing taking off helmets off while chasing down a runner at full speed to prevent a touchdown......?

@WithTwoFlakes

2 жыл бұрын

Because that wouldnt work. Rule 4-1-3 says ball is dead when BALL CARRIERS helmet comes off...

@grouchyblackman

2 жыл бұрын

@@WithTwoFlakes I think you need another flake.

If I was a defender, I would just start ripping helmets off 😅🤣😂

If you rip someone's helmet off, but they are still on their feet and able to score, assess the penalty on the kick/return. If you tackle or hit a player without a helmet on it is already a penalty, so don't do it. If you do it anyway, then it should be a full game suspension for the player and a forfeited possession. You can't penalize the player/team who was fouled, that's just stupid. Penalties and rules MUST BE BACKED BY COMMON SENSE. Enough of the rules designed only to keep the NFL/NCAA safe from lawsuits. If that's the object, take off the pads, put on panties and play flag ball.

I get its for safety, it sounds good on paper, but if theres no more opposing team-members with in 5 yards or no one touches the player, let the score stand.

@dezznutz3743

2 жыл бұрын

this was a rule made up by government bureaucrats and NOT football players, coaches, refs, etc.

@rheumatoidarthiritis9072

2 жыл бұрын

Budda Baker and DK Metcalf

Make it a touch rule. If a players helmet comes off the defender can’t hit him so instead let the defender tag of the ball carrier ruling the ball dead. This eliminates opinions of the refs deciding if the defender was close enough

@howardbaxter2514

2 жыл бұрын

Except that gets very dangerous very quickly. Not to mention, it can also be subjective. The rule is fine as is.

@Shottamanrambo

2 жыл бұрын

@@howardbaxter2514 its not lol

@howardbaxter2514

2 жыл бұрын

@@Shottamanrambo it is fine as is. It’s an all encompassing rule. It sucks that players can’t advance the ball further, but it protects players from serious injury. Creating exceptions to this rule does nothing but hurt the game. Think about it. You are adding more subjectivity to the game in which fans WILL NOT be pleased with. And you are putting players at risk. It’s a liability issue for refs. Keep the rule as is with NO exceptions.

If anyone is "close to him is anyone's opinion"... You mean like these instances??: 1 - Making a clear catch and a "football" move? 2 - Intentional grounding means the ball wasn't "near" an eligible receiver? 3 - Roughing the passer when the player puts their "body weight" on the QB? 4 - "uncatchable ball" resulting in no pass interference call? 5- The difference between a "peel-back" block and a clean one...? The entirety of the officiating is subjective and it absolutely ruins the game.

"Hmm, should I tackle this guy?"... "No I think I will just rip his helmet off"

If you don't change the rule then the meta will be ripping off a passers helmet not tackling.

@jacksonwaldon

2 жыл бұрын

It’s still a face mask so only when the receiver looks as if he’d 100% score without the helmet coming off

@dougsholly9323

2 жыл бұрын

It would be really hard to intentionally rip off a helmet without getting a face mask penalty. However, intentionally committing a penalty to prevent a touchdown already happens. I don't really see this as something a defender can exploit.

@Akrna47

2 жыл бұрын

15 yard penalty is bad. That's why

@e-man5654

2 жыл бұрын

That's harder to do than tackling. It's not easy to intentionally rip a player's helmet off.

In the case of a penalty like that on the defense, where the receiver is clearly not at risk of being touched again, the TD should have be awarded, especially for something like unnecessary roughness or a personal foul. I can see in other situations where if it comes off, sure the ball is dead. The player is responsible for their helmet being secured as well.

@rheumatoidarthiritis9072

2 жыл бұрын

If Budda Baker's helmet came off what's DK Metcalf gonna do? Not tackle him? The rule is fine

@GRat9717

2 жыл бұрын

@@rheumatoidarthiritis9072 Yeah, that's the best way to avoid plays that wouldn't normally happen.

Whats the band playing at 1:12?

Happens all the time. What happened to Florida vs FSU was 10 times worse than this. When Dameon Pierce bull rushed his way to the end zone after a defender ripped his helmet off and he scored he was flagged for a 15 yard penalty for continuing the play.

That should have been a game time ejection for unsportsmen like conduct for ripping the helmet by the face mask off the player's head...

@neverbackdown1918

2 жыл бұрын

Lmao are you dumb? That wasn’t intentional. He jumped to try and make a play on the ball, came down, and tried grabbing at Williams to take him down. He accidentally took off his helmet.

This doesn’t incentivize anything if someone even tries to recreate this he might have a hard time taking the helmet off and cost his team 15+ yards. No ones willing to take that risk to try and outsmart a rule.

I get the rule.. but there has to be some amendment to it. Like if he has clear path with no inherent danger coming towards him, the TD will count. Also.. if the player that catches it mid air in the end zone and def player just happens to take off helmet when they both come down.. is it a TD?

My boy still certified! Shout out to Deestroying, put me on to Mario

How about if the runner has his helmet ripped off, he can advance the ball until he is touched. It protects the runner and allows him to take advantage instead of being screwed out of a touchdown. What do y’all think?

@yeahright2022

2 жыл бұрын

That doesn't work. You can't turn a game of tackle football into touch football. The safety of these unpaid college athletes should take priority over 6 points on the scoreboard. Too much can happen after the helmet comes off.

@tristanboudreau8447

2 жыл бұрын

@@yeahright2022 what else you got?

Proposed rule change: If the ball carrier's helmet comes off while he's in possession of the ball (due to a defenders action), then that play must merely be touched by a defender to consider him 'down'. If never touched, he can score a TD. That would solve this problem and maintain the safety of everyone.

What if you make it two hand touch if his helmet is off

Something similar happened with NC State and Miami. Miami player muffed a punt and NC State recovered inside the Miami 10 yard line. Only problem was that the recovering player for NC State had his helmet ripped off a few seconds earlier by a blocker who didn't even know there was a fumble. They ruled the NC State player ineligible from the second his helmet came off so they awarded the ball to Miami even though they didn't recover it and never had possession. On top of that the personal foul penalty they called on Miami for ripping off the helmet was only like 5 yards as it was so close to the endzone already.

Such a bs rule that the refs don’t even understand themselves, that’s why for some reason they gave Dameon Pierce a personal foul for continuing to play without his helmet but they didn’t give Williams one here. No consistency with the dumba$$ rules smh

@steven8955

2 жыл бұрын

The difference in how refs ruled isn’t actually about the rule. It’s about who was reffing and how they decide to rule. The rule is necessary though because if someone was close to make a tackle as well they would potentially either A. Seriously injure the runner B. Get penalized for tackling the helmet less player C. Not be able to touch them making the runner essentially invincible I know reviewing it is an option people throw out there as a possibility but I think in the world of football it would be a liability Like on a roller coaster they tell you not to unbuckle until the cart comes to a complete stop even though it’s going like 2 mph and you are held down my the bar still and sitting so there’s no way you are going to really get hurt They still have it as a rule because it’s a liability What happens if this play happened, still no one around but he trips and breaks his neck...liability

@Chad13

2 жыл бұрын

@@brandon737 I absolutely know what the rule is. You obviously didn’t comprehend what I was saying. I have a problem with the referees issuing a personal foul in one instance and not the other. Thanks for replying to my comment though, Goofy

@Chad13

2 жыл бұрын

@@brandon737 Diving into the end zone = trying to truck somebody…got it🥴🥴🥴

easy rule change; if the helmet comes off, then it becomes touch football. if a defender can touch him and not tackle, then he's down.

@EMSeeversCG

2 жыл бұрын

The helmetless player is ruled down at the spot, if he is touched by any player after his helmet is removed. Love it. Also make it an additional penalty for anyone who uses excessive force to down the helmetless player.

@smyzmaster3913

2 жыл бұрын

@@EMSeeversCG perfect rule right there

@MontanaSkies77

2 жыл бұрын

Major thumbs up for that idea. 1 hand touch after the helmet is free and clear. Anything more than 2 hand touch is a personal foul.

cool to see bob stoops on the sideline coaching again

Advantage goes to Defense! Great defensive strategy to use in a pinch. The NHL has the same rule, roughly, and Rangers used it against Penguins in last nights game to win the series. You do whatever you can to win, is the motto!

If the Oregon player would have tackled him instead of ripping off his helmet, then Oklahoma wouldn't have gotten an extra 15 yards.

There was absolutely NO ONE behind him! These plays should be reviewed! If there are any opposing players that can make a play then the running should be ruled down, but this? No one was around. Crazy

They should change that rule from no advance to two hand touch when a reciever is that far open ***or when no one is around*** That way they can procede with the play and the defense can stop him by non-tackling

Easy answer, Wear the helmet and Chinstraps correctly and the the helmet doesn't come off. Not saying this is always the case, but 90% of the time it either all the straps are not tightened properly, or they choose to wear the outdated single strap(Aaron Rogers :) .

So do we call this a "smart" play by the defender.

@nickgoesvestmode

2 жыл бұрын

No. The smart play is to tackle the runner. If you have enough time and wherewithal to remove a helmet, you have the time to make a tackle.

In soccer, there's a rule called "play advantage." When a player got fouled (regardless if the player is in control of the live ball or not) and the ref sees a significance advantage in the play to the fouled team (say, a good chance to score), the ref will HOLD the call to the foul for a few seconds and let the fouled team to continue the play (if they choose to). If in the next few seconds the good chance is gone (for whatever reason), the ref will call the foul. If the ball is in play continuously (I'd say at least 5 seconds away from the foul), the foul will NOT be called anymore/forgotten, regardless of the outcome of the play. If it's soccer, the touchdown in the video will be counted, as it's a play advantage for the fouled team.

@truthsmiles

2 жыл бұрын

This makes a lot of sense - thanks for explaining!

@truthbetold1855

2 жыл бұрын

The big difference, is tackling by 300 lb fast linebackers isn't a thing in soccer. Without the helmet it's dangerous to keep playing, thats why they put that on the offense to recognize as the defense has to stop too.

@Daniel-dr2jb

2 жыл бұрын

You’re asking too much from football refs 😂😂 They still don’t know unanimously what is considered a “catch”

Are the players supposed to have the helmets rivetted to their skulls before kickoff?

I turned on the game and saw the guy score a TD without his helmet and thought...WTF!

Honestly I agree with the refs on this one. It is the rule, you can’t just make exceptions for stuff like this. But the rule should definitely be changed

@sethdavis459

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly, I hate for the refs that they’re gonna get booed for doing their job, but that rule is awful. Needs to be looked at

@lennythegumpsummers8889

2 жыл бұрын

@@sethdavis459 How is it awful and also How would you change it the rule is to protect the player

@Mr_Jish

2 жыл бұрын

@@lennythegumpsummers8889 An exception could and probably should be made in this kind of situation where if the offensive player has a clear path following loss of the helmet and thus there is clearly no "imminent danger", the ball should not be ruled dead at the spot of losing the helmet. The rule as it currently stands absolutely makes sense in the context of a player losing a helmet with defenders in the immediate path, but this is not that. In this case, it essentially rewards the defense who should have otherwise been scored on.

That’s a stupid rule, should be a TD

@maybe_proxima64

2 жыл бұрын

it’s for safety

@Nicholas-ou4sb

2 жыл бұрын

@@maybe_proxima64 makes sense

@alangonzalez3986

2 жыл бұрын

@@maybe_proxima64 yea but they should change the rule if the field is clear and no one is near him.

@RoyalMela

2 жыл бұрын

@@alangonzalez3986 How do you make a fair call every time if the field is clear? You have a slow runner and tackler is faster and catching up. Where do you call the play dead at that time?

In a game earlier this year, the runner was flagged for advancing the ball after his helmet came off...he advanced the ball less than 2 yards. I wonder why they didn't all that here?

y'all got any more of them Palpably Unfair Acts?

Bro probably didn’t even realize his helmet was off💀

@tommyellenbecker4786

2 жыл бұрын

I'm sure he did. I had my helmet ripped off a couple times and it fucks up your ears pretty good.

@alex6326

2 жыл бұрын

Oh

Dangerous rule. You want to make the game safer but make rules that encourage ripping helmets off.

Pretty cool to see Coach Stoops back on the sideline, though

I was there in person and remember screaming at the top of my lungs “DAMN YOU JASON WITTEN!!!”

"If you know there's a free runner, why wouldn't you rip someone's helmet off" Where do they get these people?

@nickgoesvestmode

2 жыл бұрын

If there is a free runner, how about you just tackle them and avoid the penalty altogether?

The helmet removal rewarded the defense. Totally goes against what a foul suppose to do

@redwall1521

2 жыл бұрын

what, reward the offense?

College Defensive Coordinators be like: Decapitate ✍️ Runner ✍️ To ✍️ Save ✍️ Touchdown

Denounce will be like if he’s running 100 facemask

As a HS coach, I’ve seen kids keep their helmets far too loose, so they can easily get them on and off. It’s a problem, and I yell at them about it a few times every year. I’ve never had this happen, I’m far more concerned for their safety up on my soap box. But now I’m going to have to do helmet checks before every game after showing them this clip at the start of the year. If this guy has his helmet on tight and right it wouldn’t have came off, period. And he cost his team.

@changed_name1951

2 жыл бұрын

If he had his helmet tight, the defender would’ve made the tackle. Please think before you type next time

@j.g.mcbell9494

2 жыл бұрын

@@changed_name1951 did you watch the slow-mo towards the end of the video? He absolutely would not have made that tackle. No chance in hell.

@changed_name1951

2 жыл бұрын

@@j.g.mcbell9494 the receiver would’ve went down if the helmet stayed on…

@sez1742

2 жыл бұрын

@@changed_name1951 you are right. The receiver would prefer not to have a neck injury relating to being face masked.

You're setting a bad precedent; you're telling players if you can't make the tackle, rip the helmet off. Get the runner down by any means necessary, but don't let him score.

@rheumatoidarthiritis9072

2 жыл бұрын

I guarantee you everyone aims for the tackle. The guy in the video was going for the tackle. The precedent you're imagining is non-existent

@thomasfinnell9681

2 жыл бұрын

@@rheumatoidarthiritis9072 I didn't say he was headhunting, I'm talking about the rule. You're telling the players if you rip off the helmet in desperation and they score, the touchdown will not count. Whether it is intentional or unintentional does not matter. The score should have held up and been penalized on the kickoff.

@rheumatoidarthiritis9072

2 жыл бұрын

@@thomasfinnell9681 No cause you can't tackle the guy after he loses his helmet.

@thomasfinnell9681

2 жыл бұрын

There was nobody in the picture. It was man on man and no safety playing deep.

Reminds me of the Steelers vs Ravens game when Leveon Bell was concussed crossing the goal line. Ruled a touchdown on the field, but Harbaugh pulled a full scumbag move and got it overturned on a challenge that his helmet came off just before the touchdown.

I understand the rule is in place for the player’s safety but there’s no one else even remotely close to him

Isn't continuing to play after losing your helmet supposed to be a 15-yard personal foul penalty, the idea being that hitting a helmetless player is also a foul so the helmetless player must not be involved in the action? The receiver clearly continued playing after having his helmet ripped off. So shouldn't the ruling have been that the defensive face-mask penalty and the offensive personal foul offset? Would that have nullified the entire play, or simply let the play stand with no mark-off either way?

Two thoughts: 1. Is Bo Nix regretting his decision? 2. I’m about done with all the “safety first,” “we place safety above all else,” “be safe,” and all that crap. A nation like ours is not made up of safety-freaks. We are risk takers. We reward risk. We embrace it. We admire it. Nothing good or worthwhile happens-ever-without risk. Sadly, we are rapidly becoming cowering, timid mamma’s-boys with all this “be safe” crap. And these idiotic rules are reinforcing the decline. Time to end this silliness and for men to be men. That’s a touchdown. Period.

@lucasng4712

2 жыл бұрын

This is logically also such a funny take. Sports fundamentally are all about taking calculated risks; in most cases, it's opting for the choices that entail the least risk. Regardless, the reasoning has no place here

That the number one receiver from the deestroying video right?

In the Florida-FSU game this year, Damion Pierces helmet got ripped off, he kept running, and they flagged him for continuing to run. Officiating this year for both CFB and NFL has been brutal this year.

@hesavedawretchlikeme6902

2 жыл бұрын

Stupid. Yea there is little to no critical thinking anymore applied to such rules.

Oh God they got the AAC refs. Glad I'm not watching this game...I can recognize that annoying referee any day.

@stevenmorrison4692

2 жыл бұрын

Who cares who the refs are. A rule is a rule. The refs aren't making up the rules as they go.

@nathan.d.c

2 жыл бұрын

@@stevenmorrison4692 when was I questioning the rule? I just hate the referee. You had no reason to respond like that.

@jacobfaughtrunningproducti974

2 жыл бұрын

@@nathan.d.c as a UC fan, I 100% agree with you

@mae2759

2 жыл бұрын

ACC crew, not AAC.

@nathan.d.c

2 жыл бұрын

@@mae2759 head ref is from the AAC. Mike Roche. Maybe he moved this year. But I'm used to hearing him officiate AAC games.

It should have been a touchdown in my opinion

I mean I get it but they need to make the penalty of the foul harsher on the person that rips the helmet off. Something like any lost time is replenished, 15 yard penalty, refresh downs and the offending side losses a time out and it no time outs it's an addition 10 yd gain.

WTH! Who makes up rules like this?? Good run man 😎

NCSU got screwed by the same rule earlier in the season when they recovered a fumble but helmet came off just before it

This is so rare that I don't think they needa change the rule. How often does someone grab a receiver's face mask, and he not only catches it, but lands on his feet and keeps running? If it happens more than once, you can discuss a "clear path rule" like they have in the NBA, but it's not necessary.

so if i rip off someones helmet because i believe their gonna get a touchdown and they do get the touchdown this rule will decline it? makes sense

How about no helmet equals a "2 hand touch" rule. They can keep running but don't need to be incapacitated to be stopped. Anyone have thoughts on that?

If you rip a players helmet off should it be a 20 yard or some ridiculous amount of yard’s penalty?

Why is this "1st and goal"? The helmet came off at the 31 yard line.

@onlybangrz4242

2 жыл бұрын

Face mask and the helmet came off which was another foul on Oregon

@onepunch9203

2 жыл бұрын

@@onlybangrz4242 Right. Foul play. Dead ball. I get that. Why did the referee say, "FIRST AND GOAL"??? Where did they place the ball for the next snap? The foul occurred on the 31 or 32 yard line.

Looks good seeing Stoops on the sideline there.

This is tough, so many different scenarios could happen. I honestly have no idea how to change this rule without, as the announcer said, bring too much 'judgement' call stuff into it. Just some weird football jank

"if there is a denial of a clear TD scoring opertunity and a helmet is torn off, automatic TD" should be the rule

Oh cool I can rip someone's helmet off to prevent a touchdown? Amazing!!😂😂😂

Lower chin straps are not tightened, improperly equipped for play, offensive penalty?

my question is why did the ref even signal touchdown?

So basically a player can prevent a touchdown whenever they want by ripping off a helmet. Makes perfect sense

Good point I hadn't thought of, if the defensive player is clearly beat, just grab and rip the helmet off, because giving up 15 yards is better than giving up a touchdown.

Maybe that’s ok, but in the Florida game Pierce lost his helmet at the 3 ran it in, got a penalty on him not the guy that removed it, which moved Florida back farther than before he ran it

I would say they should change it to a clear path rule where a touchdown is awarded if there is a clear path to the end zone, the helmet came off due to a penalty by the defense, and no defender is able to enter the runners vicinity before he crosses the goal line.

That's a high IQ play causing up penalty to prevent a touchdown. I love when players know the rules and find loopholes within them to to give them an advantage.

In rugby there's a rule that if a defensive player deliberately fouls to stop an obvious score, the referee can give a penalty try (a try is the equivalent of a touchdown).

@hesavedawretchlikeme6902

2 жыл бұрын

And they don't have to wear helmets, though there are now some choosing to I think.

"No airbags needed. We die like real men"

Didn’t understand the college rules. Thought they had accepted the penalty as they took off the touchdown. Couldn’t hear it because I was in a bar. Man was I confused for awhile 😂😂

Is this rule just in college? Or nfl too?

@MartinFireExotics

2 жыл бұрын

@@brandon737 so what I'm hearing is to win the superbowl just take whoever has the ball helmet off every play and offense will never be able to score cuz they'll just get flaged. Genius 😆

@MartinFireExotics

2 жыл бұрын

@@brandon737 not yet lolol it was suppose to be a joke but thanks for that Info

didn’t Dameon Pierce do this again the Fsu game

Miss the 60's and 70's when all men still played real grid-iron football.

@hesavedawretchlikeme6902

2 жыл бұрын

Indeed. That's (60s & 70s)when I played football. This sort of thing happened every once in a while, a helmet coming off. But the play didn't stop until the whistle blew. My dad and father-in-law played in the 40s, leather helmets or none for some players. And what about Rugby...now that's real.

My Grandpa: “That damn ref sounds like that F-ing Sobel!”

Ref : “player came up to me and said. I was hoping to take his Head with me on the fall”. Savage.

Simple rule change after the runner loses his helmet he is down with contact. No need to tackle him all the defense has to do is touch him. Gives him a chance to advance if he has an open lane

They changed this rule after Jason Whitten had that run against Washington or Philly when his helmet came off, up until then this was not even a thought.

No rule change because if the defender knows he is the last man that can make a tackle to prevent a touchdown then defenders are going to start removing helmets to end the play and take the penalty over getting scored on