for the seal, a generic bearing reyailer sells seals by dimensions and usually, it is less than rge half of the price of an otiginal and usually it is as good if not better than the original, very often, these equipments are thrown away for problems that are easily repairable. In over 40 years of home ownership, I never bought a new garden equipment, I always rescued equipments that have been discarted. many times, the failure was due to an elementary cause, as elementary as a shorted kill wire. very good video

@INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE

Жыл бұрын

thank you for the information

Outdoor Power Repair Shop owner here, i would never discourage a repair and not fix just to sell a new mower, any honest repair shop would repair it than tell someone they need a new mower, and truthfully we don't make as much money off selling new equipment like some people think lawn mower shops do, repairs or fixing and selling used equipment is where we make more on, now if a piece of equipment is worn out and just flat out abused i will suggest to the customer that they might want to consider buying a new piece of equipment with a 2 or 3 year warranty vs sinking money into something that is not worth fixing. For replacing a seal in a Honda push mower i would charge an hour labor plus the part so around $95 compared to a new Honda mower (i am a Honda dealer) at $339 for a basic push and $579 for a self propelled steel deck model. A Good used Honda mower like in this video, i could sell with out the bagger easily for $150-200 depending on the year model. Most repairs shops only service and repair what they sell, that is big time dealers so naturally they will push to sell equipment because they choose to only service & repair what they sell, small shops like mine don't do that, i don't sell much new equipment, i have it yes (handheld products and walk behind mowers) but i'd prefer to fix someone's equipment than sell them new equipment, i believe in using something until it can not be used or repaired anymore. I always say have a certified professional do preventative maintenance twice a year and the equipment will last a lifetime.

@INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE

2 жыл бұрын

thank you TheOutdoorPowerGuy for the information. Not all shop around here are so caring.

I would of done nothing different than what you did. Good job!

@INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE

2 жыл бұрын

thank you William Snow.

Great fix, another one saved from landfill 👍🏻 well worth the parts for the repair

@INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE

2 жыл бұрын

Yes indeed! thank you Catcha Cow

Those Hondas are pigs to push without the drive assistance. I like your spanner wrench between the seal and the pipe solution. Great idea. The only thing I would have done in addition would be to smooth out the corrosion on the drive shaft where it contacts the lip of that seal. That's crazy amount of $$ for that seal.

@INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the tip, and it makes sense. Yes I might have to consider a universal seal because $18 is high for what it is.

@TheLawnmowerLady

2 жыл бұрын

@@INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE True, if that old seal was not so torn up, the size numbers might have readable.

@smallengines1018

2 жыл бұрын

Everything is a crazy amount of $$ these days

@punchogunter2362

2 жыл бұрын

If you smooth out the shaft from corrosion doesn't that mean you'd be taking a little metal off the shaft for the clearance between the shaft and the seal?

@TheLawnmowerLady

2 жыл бұрын

@@punchogunter2362 not enough IMO to alter the diameter. Besides, the spring on the inside lip of the seal will adjust.

That’s about as deep as it gets for repairs, lots of labor (of love) excellent work!

@INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE

Жыл бұрын

It sure is!

As I have a small yard on flat terrain, I have never found the need to replace the seal. I have been utilizing it for a decade without any issues.😊

@INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE

Жыл бұрын

very nice!

Yes, great job with this video series. I would have replaced the seal. That mover is certainly worth 58 bucks but I would have replaced the belt at the same time. You really do a good job explaining the details of the job.

@INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you Curiosity I appreciate that.

Never worked on a self propelled system, though watching your video it would be less scary. Taking it to a workshop it would be expensive. Well worth it for a nice looking Honda especially $58 ain’t bad, agree the seal is expensive. Great Job Again...😀

@INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE

2 жыл бұрын

thank you Rick Thelian.

I would fix the leaking seal just in case I have a simi steep Hill to cut the self propelled part is a great idea for us older people 😂🤣

@INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE

2 жыл бұрын

now that makes sense.

Great video and repair. Unfortunately, root cause analysis says it's going to happen again as the root cause has not been addressed - the shaft is prone to picking up weed fibres that will find their way into and destroy the seal. Corrosion on the shaft will also destroy the seal. Given that my deck is corroding underneath (I blame galvanic corrosion as I wash it well and store it in a dry location after every use), I'm going to put grease into my gearbox. It's low speed, so low heat and low centrifugal force so it won't fling the grease off. Thank you for taking the time to make this video. Seeing this video has shown me the failings of this system. Your video is concise, no bullsh!t, and accurate. Well done.

@INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE

2 жыл бұрын

the root cause was not weeds but synthetic fibers from something they ran over. I couldn't tell you what they had in their yard that has fibers like that.

Great effort in getting this nice mower fixed; glad you fixed the transmission because you or someone may use it where self-propelled is a required.

@INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you Doc Palazola

Another good video there sir. It was very interesting to see that string or whatever it was cause that seal to leak. Oh and that is one quiet mower for sure, both while just the engine running and then when the blades were engaged. You are one lucky guy to find all these mowers on the "curb" 🤔💁🏼‍♂️😂😂😂

@INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE

2 жыл бұрын

I was lucky. It was about 10 or 1030 when I saw the ad, and it was on the far side of town.

Good job, even though the seal was a bit pricey, it's well worth it, especially since you now have a fully functioning mower that you didnt pay anything for.

@INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE

2 жыл бұрын

thank you tez00001 that's what I was thinking as well.

Cool repair job done mate. 👍

@INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks 👍

Great video like always , thanks for showing us what you do , we truly appreciate all your work

@INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE

2 жыл бұрын

thank you Jorge Rodriguez

Great work! 👍

@INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you! Cheers!

I have spent more money on machines than they were worth a few times or broke even. Sometimes the satisfaction of a job well done is worth it.

@INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE

2 жыл бұрын

you what, you are absolutely right.

Thanx for the vid mate, yeah I would have go at doing the seal now you have shown us The process. Cheers.

@INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE

2 жыл бұрын

No problem 👍

I am a DIY'er so I would have done the same thing that you did. Great job!

@INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you! 😊

Great job! That was a tough one.

@INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE

2 жыл бұрын

Yes it was! Thank you A Patterson

Great video series! Have to wonder why the seal failed. That mower is certainly worth the cost and effort. Thanks for sharing. 👍

@INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE

2 жыл бұрын

no problem. They must have ran over the material that breached the seal. kinda looked like polyester fabric of some sort.

@ericrichardson3332

Жыл бұрын

It happens to alot of equipment string / fiber from who knows where wraps around a spinning shaft wether it be a drive shaft or some other spinning shaft and works its way into the seal or even bearings and cause damage to the equipment, could have been some trash blow into the yard and didn't get cleaned all the way up a little bit of that fiberis material got missed and next time the yard was mowed it got caught on the shaft and eventually took the seal out like an assassin

Definitely replace the seal. The mower has little value if the self propel doesn't work. Happy you got the mower working.

@INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE

2 жыл бұрын

me to Cole Steffens.

Great job! Even though the seal was way too expensive for what it is it’s still worth it since the rest of the mower is in such great shape and it’s got the blade brake feature. Surprised those shaft bushings just fell out like that, usually they put up a fight and won’t come out.

@INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE

2 жыл бұрын

I didn't show all my efforts to take it out but you're right, it did fall apart pretty quickly. thank you mjg263

Grouse work mate well done and yes i would have done the same thing too.

@INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE

2 жыл бұрын

thank you Patrick Stapleton

If I could have the same skills and experience like you than is worth it...

@INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE

2 жыл бұрын

it's more about determination I think

Hey Just came across your video. Honda’s expensive, lots of bolts and nuts , labor intensive, parts are expensive . I’m a equipment technician and people have no idea that Honda equipment is labor intensive. This is a excellent video showing all of this.

@josephpuchel6497

2 жыл бұрын

Hey Along with this the shafts get corroded and rusty and should be sanded down prior to seal and bushing adjusters install.

@INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE

2 жыл бұрын

thank you Joseph Puchel

@INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE

2 жыл бұрын

yes you really absolutely right.

On the transmission, I think a repair shop would give you the shaft. 😜🤪

@INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE

2 жыл бұрын

lol... yes sir

You did the right thing!

@INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE

Жыл бұрын

thank you Bruce Coleman.

👍👍👍👍

@INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE

2 жыл бұрын

thank you Task Big

I might have tried putting some grease in the transmission, and see how that worked, $18 for the seal is a lot of money, but you have a good working mower now .

@INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE

2 жыл бұрын

you are right about the grease, I wanted to try the seal and then if that didn't work, then grease time. thank you Alan Lake.

@nbpt1000

Жыл бұрын

@@INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE I am considering a #00 grease to avoid any leaks.

For a retired guy like me that would be a great project and i would of done the same as you did

@INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE

2 жыл бұрын

thank you hunter1953

I still think a thicker oil in the transmission would have worked. You had several comments before about doing that. Did you find out something that caused you to go this route?

@INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE

2 жыл бұрын

not really, I'd like to fix it the way it came from the factory, If for some reason the new seal leaked, I would have resorted to grease. Now I have been know to fix that "the best I can" and it would not have left the factory, but It's usually because the parts aren't available or affordable.

Hello

@INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE

2 жыл бұрын

hi

Come to Brazil

@INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE

2 жыл бұрын

but I like it here.

You might want to invest in a small good pick set. I personally use the Harbor freight black handle set $10ish for 4 big and 4 small ones. I use the small ones weekly at work and they are good. If you have a parts store near you you could find a decent set there I'm sure to.

@INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE

2 жыл бұрын

you're absolutely right about the pick set. Mine have since disappeared.

@iowafox2206

2 жыл бұрын

@@INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE those would be alot better then a flat screwdriver. Picks are something you can't do without in my opinion.

@INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE

2 жыл бұрын

completely agree with you.

So how long do you spend each day on fixing the equipment, considering you have two channels, you use have some videos already in the line up, or you film a little each day and edit it at the end of thee week and we get these fantastic videos. But however you do it, you do a fantastic job, can we say, almost chrisfix like. 👀. Have a great night

@INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE

2 жыл бұрын

I work a few hours a day on either filming, editing, scripting, and recording my voice overs. And yes I have several videos already uploaded at any one time.

Nice job and nice repair. Too bad your video time wasn't the real time to complete the repair 🤣 I have worked on small engine transmissions and they are time consuming. Not a difficult fix but take in to consideration is this mower worth it? As a hobby, not too bad but can be pricey depending upon the make and model. Appreciate your efforts...

@INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE

2 жыл бұрын

thank you Mr G. it definitely took longer than I showed. I don't recall how much film time I started with, but If I had to guess, it was over an hour of raw footage.

that was well worth fixing right, good job! Do you have the other KZread channel, Home Garage?

@INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE

2 жыл бұрын

thanks and yes Home Garage is my other channel. they were supposed to be separate channels but ended up being the same thing.

It would depend on my patience level on the day I was working on it.!!!

@INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE

Жыл бұрын

Makes sense!

I would have done what you did. A honda is worth the cost and effort .a brand new one is about $700.00

@INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE

Жыл бұрын

you got that right, thank you Ray Morrison.

What fluid do you put in a lawn mower transmission? I have a 23" self-propelled Troy bilt, and it is starting to lock up when it's pulled backward. I thought it would be the usual issue with the keyway, but on my model, it's inside the transmission.

@INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE

Жыл бұрын

it depends on the mower, some ask or gear oil while some ask for synthetic motor oil. I don't recall what I poured into this one. To be honest, whatever it look like, that came out of it, put the same back in.

Hey how are you I have to ask your opinion. If I drain the tank an run my Stihl weed trimmer out of gas is it ok to put a way for winter or would you do something else thank you love your vidoes

@INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE

2 жыл бұрын

I'm doing well, thank you Frankaferd Hadley. If your winter is only 4 months, then that's all I would do. If your winter is longer, you might want to consider fogging your eying, to keep rust from seizing your ring(s) to the cylinder.

That is definitely more than I like to spend however it's still less than what the mower is worth. I probably would have tried grease.

@INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE

2 жыл бұрын

I was second guessing myself after having ordered the seal. thank you Brian King

What do you put it transmission for fluid? I've had 0 luck with finding an answer

@INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE

Жыл бұрын

plenty more videos to search

where do you find individual parts ....is there a small engine online warehouse ....or Amazon

@INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE

2 жыл бұрын

I just use Amzn but I cross reference part numbers from ereplacement dot com

I would replace the seal. I actually have 2 honda hrx217 mowers I got with non functioning transmissions and that same seal leaking. They look to be harder to get to and replace. You may have been able to remove the wheel height adjuster and slipped off the seal without removing the trans on that one however. What type of oil did you use there. That trans also appears to not be a hydrostatic transmission.

@INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE

2 жыл бұрын

no this is not a hydrostatic unit, this trans only requires motor Oil for lubrication.

I think it was worth it, considering the fact that if most people don't like pushing a lawnmower then fix it! By the way, how much time did it take to fix it?

@INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE

2 жыл бұрын

I think it took 3 hours while filming, without filming least half of that time.

What's your personal limit expense for free mowers and what's the most you'll pay for a mower both working and not working?

@INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE

Жыл бұрын

hmm.. for a free mower, I will not spend over $100, and that is usually for the transmission. And as for buying mower working or not, ... the depends on what kind of mower it is. I will pay unto 100 for a good toro, or honda, but for junk mowers, I will only pay 20, and that's it.

How often do you think the transmission fluid should be changed on Honda lawnmowers?

@INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE

Жыл бұрын

that's a tricky question, for they Hydrostatic, I'd check it one a year. As for the others, I'd check it once a year, but I doubt you'll need to replace it. The issue, is that to inspect it, it's in the position to replace it. Like I said, tricky.

I would have fixed it too

Could you show the part number for the seals? Thanks

@INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE

2 жыл бұрын

I would, but my seal, may not work for your machine. I would call a shop and give them the model and serial number for from your machine, and they will tell you, what the part number is .

you could put grease in there. then no need to replace the seal

@INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE

2 жыл бұрын

you are correct. The grease would have worked as well.

is that olive oil u poored into the transmission

@INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE

2 жыл бұрын

nice eye, No was just using olive oil bottle, because of its long neck.

Yes it’s worth close to 200.00 up

@INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE

Жыл бұрын

agreed!

I don't think owner popped belt off. I would think it came off. Why save for street free? Run till dead.

$18 for the seal.... YIKES! Imagined if it rolled. 🤣😅☠

@INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE

2 жыл бұрын

I know right.

You put a lot of effort into filming segments. However, no, just no. The transmission will leak again and you will end up using grease.

@INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE

2 жыл бұрын

thank you 999thenewman

Why don't you use this as you new mower since you spent so much on it.

@INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE

2 жыл бұрын

because I'm trying to prove that my old beat up honda will still last, as long as the maintenance is kept up. I have someone in mind to get this one anyway.

@smallengines1018

2 жыл бұрын

@@INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE oh yeah.

@animered1986

2 жыл бұрын

@@INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE My lawnboy is over 30 years old and still going strong. Been thru 2 sets of rings though. I don't know how many tires, or belts, too many to remember. Ohh and 1 coil If you take good care of them the old ones last forever. No so sure about these new ones where 60-80% of it is all plastic.

@INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE

2 жыл бұрын

you make a good point. thank you Anime Red.

Not bad at all but I would of just gotten a new mower and done

@INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE

2 жыл бұрын

I kinda like the idea of the new mower too.

@ramadinsookhoo6141

2 жыл бұрын

@@INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE yes sometimes the casket does cost more than the funeral that's why it's good to know your limits and know when to call it quits and move along

@INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE

2 жыл бұрын

nicely put.