Waterdancer can make a big weapon. Cause the rogue gift is 1. So you get a copy of it that costs zero alongside the Deadly Poison which also costs 1 and thus gives a copy. 2 Poison from deck=2 mana cost+2 free Poison 2 Gift from deck=2 mana cost+2 free Gift 2 Poison from initial Gifts=2 mana cost+2 free Poison 2 Poison from free Gift=2 cost+2 free Poison 6 mana for 12 Deadly Poison. So you can do it either with Waterdancer on the board or drop her on turn 10. Since you’re likely running Excavate, all that damage goes on your Shovel unless you’ve used both already in which case it goes on your daggers with 1 less durability.

@DjVerse100

4 ай бұрын

Wow that sounds really fucking strong

Love the pirate-summon support I've been waiting for right after Hooktusk rotates, thanks Blizz

@josiahkrodel4656

4 ай бұрын

Unless they fix that text. That card is just an infinate?

@Phoenax

4 ай бұрын

@@josiahkrodel4656 It says after "YOU" summon a pirate. The others are being summoned by Goldbeard.

I think the Watercannon could have easily been 3 mana 2/3 weapon, would have made the effect more efficient for the cost while shifting the focus to the effect rather than the raw weapon stats.

Sonya Waterdancer will be broken for the Excavate Rogue in Standard. Copying 1 mana cost cards that gets generated by Azurite Scorpion will be so good.

@frost7842

4 ай бұрын

who would have guessed that "but not less than 1" will be problematic.

@GeldarionTFS

4 ай бұрын

The 1 cost and the Prep + 3 cost also!

@polk7706

4 ай бұрын

Can also work in wild with academic espionage and the wishing well

@Gjcoxy

4 ай бұрын

Yeah but with Scourge Illusionist rotating its gonna be a lot harder to get your excavates in.

@chadgamer6942

4 ай бұрын

​@@Gjcoxyi mean its still gonna work your just gonna have to top deck drilly

maybe boucing up the miniaturize pirate before goldbeard to have board space and mana for combos will be the way to go

Isn’t The Crystal Cove kind of like construct quarters? Like a pretty tuned down version of its original iteration.

Turn 7 draw 7 cards deal 7 damage and summon 2 random 4 drops.

Thistle Tea Set looks sweet.

Shuffle Rogue maybe could work? Fal'dorei Striders early game on turns 4 and 5, then later Sonya and Gear Shift on turn 6. You get to cast Gear Shift again for 0, so total of twice. You draw 7 that turn including first draw; then Everything Must Go! costs 1, so you play that and then get a 0 cost to play again. 6 mana to drop four random 4-costs + Sonya + any draws from Striders.

@GeldarionTFS

4 ай бұрын

I forgot that immediately after this, Warrior will cast one of their 15 board clears.

@impkiller5932

4 ай бұрын

yesterday I died against even shaman on turn 3 bc he find 2 0 mana spells that give +2 attack, this is too slow. you need something more efficient in wild.

@kasskennedy5843

4 ай бұрын

@@impkiller5932he’s not talking about wild . Nobody plays wild .

@GeldarionTFS

4 ай бұрын

@@impkiller5932 I was actually brewing for standard, because fal'dorei strider is actually rotating back into standard! I used to copium that card hard.

As someone who perpetually overestimates card strength based on my own personal hype, I gotta agree with Regis here. Goldbeard just requires you to play pirates in a way they dont normally like to (withholding cards, lowering tempo for future combo ) and I think the payoff is just not as explosive as it would need to be to make that trade worth it. I would love to be wrong, as I love pirate decks, but I think people tend to overreact whe. they see Rogue get combo payoff cards.

Sonya with yogg tentacles 👀👀👀

hey @RegisKillbin just wanted to let you know that your hashtag says "WhaizbangsWorkshop" and not "Whizbang". Not sure if the spelling is intentional but i noticed it on your last few vids. Thought i'd point it out in case you didn't know. Thanks for covering all the cards in your reviews! I don't play a lot of hearthstone these days anymore but still watch these occasionally to see whats new.

Get well man

Rogue looks like most fun to play (as) so far.

this style for Sonya is fantastic

Scoundrel is the kind of card where the mini and shadowstep/bounce will probably result in an OTK somewhere. It reminds me too much ot Scabbs. The rest of the set might not even be used in whatever combo deck, but that card seems really easy to sleep on.

Goldbeard is the ultimate magical Christmas land card. The example clip in Alliestrasza's video did 8 damage to face for 10 mana + a weapon in play. Probably better ways to do it.

@RegisKillbin

4 ай бұрын

Yeah, that was a great example of why I think this will fail. A really mediocre result for a bunch of mana that required them to give up tons of tempo for it, just not playing Dread Corsairs the whole game, and sitting on tons of resources for no reason.

Triple sevens with everything must go could be good

Crystal cove would work well with the new weapon. A 4/4 that attacks randomly right away could be great tempo no?

@maciejkolorowy3340

4 ай бұрын

But that 1/1 attacks immediately, so how you gonna use as 4/4 charge?

@zachorletzkiy

4 ай бұрын

@@maciejkolorowy3340 the location says when summons so I think it would transform into a 4/4 before so I no it’s immediate attack if you trigger the location :-) not charge since you can’t decide but it should be 4/4 I think

Goldbeard might have a fun combo in wild with kingsbane and Raiders with octobot discounts which you have pit stop to tutor them and can ping them with harmonic. Kingsbane is already a decent deck in wild so Goldbeard might make a fun version of it (and not so good version)

Haven't seen any 5 star cards yet, i wonder what cards were

What happen if you sumon goldbeard when you already have goldbeard on the board

If u play 2 goldbeard's is that otk?

The only thing he’s shoplifting is your mana, the amount needed is abysmal

How does crystal cove interact with the 1 mana magnetic mechs ? Do they have to be separately summoned, or can they magnetise at 4/4

@censoredname6490

4 ай бұрын

I think magnetising stuff doesn't count as summoning, at least the secrets that counter summons don't trigger.

If you had 2 shoplifter goldbeard is it infinite?

I’m thinking pirates are busted. Lots of ways to push aggro and mid game. That means the legendary doesn’t need to do heaps of damage, just enough to finish off the opponent, so your payoff only needs to be “crystal cove” plus some arbitrary “summon a copy” pirate. Having burst damage also means surviving through a Reno which is nice. That being said, I agree with the card by card ratings

Correct me if im wrong, but the location doesnt specify needing to play a minion. With that in mind, does that not mean the weapon would summon a 4/4?, and would goldbeard copy the 4/4?

Does goldbear effect triggers on himself when he is summoned ?

@kripperinoobviousino6019

4 ай бұрын

No

Goldbeard could make the Juggernaut scary again

I saw goldbeard and saw crystal core rogue post completion. nothing in standard tho

Regis said so many 4s in a row during the rating section it sounded like he played ceystal cove on all of them 🤣

I REALLY want to make a hooktusk deck with the new package(guys I promise it will have more then 40% winrate)

Despite the reservations, it sure looks like rogue mana cheat and coin generation (and bounce effects to keep him around) will make Goldbeard viable.

Shoplifter Goldbeard could've been a neat deathknight card

If I had a nickel for every time a community member rated a rogue card lower because its cost might be prohibitive and then it turned out to literally be too cheap and powerful, I'd be a *very* rich man.

@cannibleking7960

4 ай бұрын

especially since it says summon not play that opens it up so much more

@RegisKillbin

4 ай бұрын

Ah yes, Rogue, the class known for its powerful 6+ cost Legendary cards like Hooktusk, Shek'zara, or Tak, and definitely not known for its broken 3 & 4 cost legendary cards like Velarok, Drilly, or Mimiron.

@diogoesteves2117

4 ай бұрын

@@RegisKillbinwe had smite 2 years ago this kinda feels like theyare trying to push something similar, that should count as sort of a 6 cost legendary

@Mr_bean_is_santa_claus

4 ай бұрын

@@RegisKillbin and soon sonya

@JustForTheTunes

4 ай бұрын

​@@RegisKillbin lmfao I love the sass and I totally agree with your thoughts. I want Goldbeard to be good cause I LOVE pirate decks, but yeah this just seems like it won't quite pan out the way some people think it will.

All of these cards that support and play well with Goldbeard have good potential. Fuck Goldbeard, it's wishing well time!

Because Goldbeard reads “summon”, does that mean it’s gonna fill the board since the copy is also a pirate that is summoned ?

@blowc1612

4 ай бұрын

Dont think so. Since it will attack and die that it knows to not summon another copy of it as the original.

@blowc1612

4 ай бұрын

But it may count to other cards that has a bonus for summoning a pirate.

Goldbeard is a bigger, slower, clunkier, and can-only-run-one-copy version of Ship's Cannon.

Rogue just seems either really aggressive or mega value off wishing well

Sonya with a Sandbox would turn any 4 cost to a 1 cost so you can get free 4 cost minions

Ahha! I see what’s happening here! Regis is more critical on Goldbeard because…. He’s jealous of Goldbeard’s facial hair! XD

Give Shoplifter Beard stealth and you have something

So it will be 3 in a row rogue pirate archetype witch will dont be good? 😅😂

Have an aura that spells cost 1 more, waterdancer coin is an infinite combo

Dude, Sonia would just kill with the Wishingwell and a bunch of coins. You get a bunch of one cost legendary and you play them with her and Bam. You get zero cost legendary. All you’re hoping is you just get legendary from the wishing well

love how these are all 4 stars but warlock was a bunch of 2s....interesting.

all the location had to do was summon a 4/3 pirate with rush and this package wouldve been top tier maybe even nerf the durability to 2

The question is what happens if you play 2 gold beard

My rule of thumb for rogue is 5 cost cards or lower. Anything above 5 mana… not happening.

@kripperinoobviousino6019

4 ай бұрын

Tess Greymane, Aya Blackpaw, Crabatoa, Flik Skyshiv, Heistbaron Togwaggle, V-07-TR-0N Prime, Vanish, Galakrond the Nightmare, Pirate Admiral Hooktusk, Scribbling Stenographer, SI:7 Assassin, Shadowcrafter Scabbs and Valeera the Hollow has left the chat

Will he trigger himself though?

The watercanon artwork needs a bit of a fix. The water balloon is ehhhh

gotta love blizzard balancing/thinking.... pirates have always been overly aggressive. blizzard: what are pirates missing? oh yeah thats right they need to be faster lol

goldbeard is such a expensive and not very good payoff. Like ok you sent 6 damage face? Thats it? Maybe you build a big weapon and play the pirate that buffs off weapon. Is that card even still in standard?

I've played wishing well to legend the last couple of months, and I am bullish on this set helping it out. A pirate backup wouldn't be bad for the draw. The sonya is just upside. The deck is losing most of its draw, so i think the weapon, boat, 1 cost spell and mana cheat pirate could fit.

@alexparadise6121

4 ай бұрын

Also I agree, the 6 drop pirate looks horrendous.

I don't know why they didn't just give the 1/1 rush, the random "flavor" isn't hitting.

@GeldarionTFS

4 ай бұрын

Depends if it does anything similar to the animation + music.

@CarolinaPride95

4 ай бұрын

Pirates have always been about aggro and going face, attacking a random enemy can be better than having rush in certain situations for an aggro deck. I think it fits perfectly for pirates

Goldbeard has a problem with it's wording, the way it reads currently it should create an infinite loop. Goldbeard summons a copy of a pirate and since he summoned a pirate he would proc again and summon another.

I don’t think you realize what rogue can do regis 😭😳

@RegisKillbin

4 ай бұрын

I think I DO realize what Rogue can do, and it's WAY better than what Goldbeard can do, that's sorta the point. Why would they mess with this?

I feel like there's a strong chance you're underestimating goldbeard. I remember opening patches on day one and i was so pissed because it seemed like the lamest and underwhelming legendary I had ever seen. But the effect ended up being bonkers. There are enough pieces here to make this card devastating

@thebigyes8482

4 ай бұрын

In what world can you compare that 6 mana legendary to patches?

@Liliana_the_ghost_cat

4 ай бұрын

Who could ever think Patches was bad???

@blowc1612

4 ай бұрын

​@@Liliana_the_ghost_cat patches was rated bad befor release. 1/1 legendary wtf.

@Liliana_the_ghost_cat

4 ай бұрын

@@blowc1612 it was basicaly a 0 mana 1/1 with charge that draws a card. It's mind boggling how anyone would ever even think about wheter it was good or not. It's litteraly free value. You'd have to be actualy illiterate at how card game design works to ever think Patches was a bad card. At worst Patches was a Stonetusk Boar at the time, and that was a completely fine card to play in aggro decks, especialy during that period in Hearthstone's history.

Is it just me or is Everything Must Go just straight up a 0 star card. The last thing you want on a pop off miracle turn are 2 random 4 costs… Additionally, Sonya with the excavated spells that cost (1) + tess is going to be a rng fiesta and my main deck lmao

@kripperinoobviousino6019

4 ай бұрын

0 star means literally unplayable garbage that has no shot. This card is just okay but not awful.

Before we start worrying about whether Pirate Rogue is a viable option, let's let Dane get his hands on it first. He'll light the way.