8:00 i wish there was a signature version of this, even the standard location’s art is insane

@marlikbudvergard

2 күн бұрын

Fr

@CarolinaPride95

2 күн бұрын

Insane art, hopefully the golden version isn't a complete disappointment lol

@norcall5733

2 күн бұрын

Golden versión will be that dust layer with slight movement they all have nowadays 💀

@CarolinaPride95

2 күн бұрын

@@norcall5733 nah in their defense they only did that for titans goldens, I forget they reasoning they gave but apparently they just didn't have enough time to animate em all lmao

@shadowcurtain

Күн бұрын

Looks so amazing

Horizon’s edge maybe has the best art out of any card ever. The colours, the story and the shot are perfect and beautiful

@user-xn6ej5pt5u

2 күн бұрын

My thoughts exactly. Golden art's gonna be sick

@CarolinaPride95

2 күн бұрын

@@user-xn6ej5pt5u hopefully...could be disappointing, I feel like golden animations have gone down in recent years sadly

@s7edgekat610

Күн бұрын

They are much better ones. Check l ok r, runterra card art... amazing. They let you see full page art in have and in March things your are waiting too. Histone sound do that to

hehe, it's not chip damage, it's ship damage

@austexan

2 күн бұрын

Ok.. well played :P

From "Why do they add runes if all of them are rainbow?" to "This is not rainbow,means useless" in a span of a day.

@TheSchantz3

2 күн бұрын

If every other good card is rainbow then you can't play dual rune cards without making major concessions. Its not contradictory.

@joaoneis6010

2 күн бұрын

@@TheSchantz3yes, that just make his first statement stronger, they print only rainbow DK Support while it is already their best deck by far, and only a singular 2 frost rune cards out of nowhere, why would anyone play it? It’s so out of place.

@Lovyxia

2 күн бұрын

@@joaoneis6010 They don't make enough cards to support enough Death Knight archetypes with different rune setups. The class fundamentally needs more cards to have both varied rune setups and deckbuilding. Back when it was all triple runes, most of your decks would essentially be pre-made due to the card count. I think the rune system kind of needs a redesign like being able to use 4 runes when using 2 colors because it doesn't feel like 2-1 rune distributions can take off without being worse versions of rainbow or pure decks unless they force those decks like with Plagues.

@juliosoto6315

2 күн бұрын

I am main DK, i cant complain about this, everyone wanted Rainbow playable, because everyone were playing triple rune deck in the past, nowadays, Rainbow is the only worth type of deck playing because of rotation, especially with Highlander decks, it would surprise me if they want to give triple rune decks support again. From what i see, 2 same rune cards are enough restriction, and still versatile with another rune.

@accidie_

2 күн бұрын

​@@juliosoto6315the appeal of Rainbow was in that it had no support and would be just good-stuff DK

Death Knight has both Eliza and Boat, this feels like Blizzard trying to make BGs players try standard.

@Cuestrupaster

2 күн бұрын

YEP BOAT

It's worth noting that Shaman is getting some Spell School synergy, so they might get some cards to freeze that will be playable in DK which might make these Freeze stuff a little better.

Slippery Slope is the only double Rune card that Warlock will have access to, so the only possible Rune combinations for Warlock will be Rainbow and double Frost

Very cute flavor going on with Death knight trying to stay cool on their island vacation. Gameplay wise, woof. 4 more months of DK players jamming plagues

@chaosjimthevoidlord3762

2 күн бұрын

I’m going to keep playing handbuff I don’t like the plague package With these new cards I might try an aggro rainbow deck, but I doubt it’ll be any good compared to paladin warlock and rogue dominating everything with their top tier decks

Finally non rainbow DK support

@micahturner8297

2 күн бұрын

So funny seeing people say that now honestly because for so long rainbow was terrible…..lol

@pierrecourtois5167

2 күн бұрын

​@@micahturner8297yes, and it went from pityful to mediocre. Still very unfun. The fact that the HS team doesn't want to give us anything but meh support for the spell saddens me

The rune system definitely needs a rework or to do more. They should incentivize building triple of any rune by giving each a specific bonus. Triple frost could give armor at the start of the game, Triple blood could give lifesteal to your hero power and triple unholy could maybe give you extra corpses when undeads die.

@austexan

2 күн бұрын

Not a bad idea. The cards themselves definitely don't seem to reward triple runes enough.. Which is largely a result of the fact that they can't make them TOO powerful because they're still accessible via discover. A flat bonus for triple runes would allow them to incentivize mono decks without creating unbalance via discover. Blizz should definitely consider this.

@tarille1043

2 күн бұрын

Or... They should start printing actually good double/triple rune cards? Triple rune decks were THE only way to play DK when they had strong cards. It's only now that literally every card is Rainbow/Runeless that there's simply no point being anything but Rainbow since Rainbow can already play pretty much every card...

@CrimsonKnight

2 күн бұрын

@@tarille1043 i dont care what they do they just need to actually do something

@austexan

2 күн бұрын

@@tarille1043 That's exactly my point though.. They can't make them TOO good, because Rainbow etc can still discover them.

@omega4223

2 күн бұрын

Didn't they kill triple rune discover? Doesn't that allow for triple rune cards to be really strong as a restriction payoff?

You did the good old "buh-roke"! We're so back!

There is soul freeze so maybe warlock is the double rune class.

Zeddy? No. More like my Uncle Zeddy was good seeing you at the family get together can't wait to see you on the fourth of July mate!

I'm really on board with the theme for DK this expansion Undead Pirates, how cool is that?

I love Death Knight. I like playing it and don't mind playing against it. Since the class' release, I knew, as a wild player, that it would take Hearthstone years to make enough Rune support to make all the different rune combinations have such insane synergies that the class would be worth playing in wild and that each combination would feel distinct enough from the last. I still dream of that day, but with each passing expansions and each rune card that's released, it gets a little closer to a worthwhile arsenal of rune cards, and I get a little happier. Always nice to see the development of Death Knight, just wish Blizz had more guts to print triple rune cards.

Horizon's Edge may be what DK need to have a real advantage over Pain Warlock. I can't wait to see how it does in Theorycrafting

Maybe finally a frost archetype deck on wild ?

horizon's edge artwork is amazing

I'm just not sure double runes can keep up with the value of rainbow death knight builds

Question, if Warlock has a DK tourist, does that come with rune restrictions as well?

@locogato3488

Күн бұрын

Yes, Rune restrictions will apply to Warlock as well. But the only options are double Frost one Blood, double Frost one Unholy, and Blood Frost Unholy.

Just watched the newest video about that DK card, it seems absolutely insane. Mega durgle mclurgle? :D

Imagine two of these bad boy locations on board, 30 dmg in turn 6-7 with additonal board to clear sth off.

@austexan

2 күн бұрын

Except you're dead because you spent two turns doing absolutely nothing. And you're NEVER doing 30 damage unless your opponent has like 40 health worth of minions on the board so you can keep trading yours off... AND it's a 3 card combo... On a Friday in June when at 4:33 Pm in a rainstorm this card is good I guess.. But that still puts it a long way from playable. There are many other combos that are easier to set up with a much better payoff.

@korekdorek

2 күн бұрын

@@austexan 3 Cards combo in control deck seems nice, so why not? I see it being played, unless aggro is going to be more unbearable than it is now. It's a lot of damage at the end of the day, and I don't see death knight playing better combos.

@austexan

2 күн бұрын

@@korekdorek Sure.. But those 3 card combos usually win you the game or do something so big it swings the board waaay back in your favor. This not only requires that 3 card combo, it also requires an empty board on your side (which you can at least control) AND, for your opponent to oblige with by having a ton of high health minions out, or you won't have anything to trade your minions into. You need at LEAST the 10 health to trade the 2/2's into, on top of health to absorb the location damage, which again takes damage away from the face. So in the end its a 3 card combo, that takes setup on not just yours, but your opponents board to pull off, after spending two turns spending 4 mana to do nothing (on top of the card to generate minions to trade).. and after all that the result is what? You (maybe) cleared the board, have no board of your own, and maybe did a little chip damage to your opponent? There are far more reliable board clears, and far easier ways to do face damage. This card will never ever ever ever see play. Ever. Full stop

Warlock doesn't have any triple rune payoff cards, so they would be happy to go double frost if they don't care about deathrattle.

lol, I had a deck once with glacial shard and the big 6/6 colossal dragon once. The dragon kills any frozen creature, if i remember right. I remember playing against a Rogue player once, and he got this huge full board out early by playing random stuff. Then I played the dragon and some glacial shard stuff and killed his board. You could just tell he was pissed (I know I woulda been). Pretty soon after, he rage quit.

idk but the shamantourist seems to do not that much in dk rigth?

3 random means if a frozen face is the only thing to hit it will hit 3 times

You're asking at the end about how good the DK cards will be. I think it all depends if DK finally gets a new wincon. We didn't get one since Festival, maybe Titans if you count Hellia. The Rainbow spell is a 10 mana RNG fiesta, and aside from that attrition is mildly playable, a lot worse since Blood DK rotated. If DK doesn't get a new wincon, all these cards will join the pile of mediocre cards that "supports" Rainbow DK (note that none of them spends corpses tho). They don't synergize with hand buff either. I'm not optimistic towards if my favorite class will finally get the time to shine.

The more I see all of these DK cards, the more I think that the rune system is REALLY limiting the design space for the class as a whole.

Hey I did choose a different name for my ship of operation back in BfA. I'm pretty sure.

They need to make one legendary for DK that changes between triple runes for each type. Or better yet make three different pay-off cards to make running triple runes worth it/possible.

Oh boy, the freeze cards really seem so conditionally that they sure wont see much or any play. Even with decent Freeze Support like the Lifesteal weapon or Might of Menethil I only can see the Snow Shredder to be hardrun. The Location on the other hand seems extremely strong and can fit in almost any archetype of DK this is definetely a powerhouse-card

@nigh_anxiety

2 күн бұрын

Freebooter goes in Warlock easily with Soulfreeze, but its a very different archetype than we have been seeing. For DK there's also the Howling Blast and probably more support coming later.

@shiizaad

2 күн бұрын

@@nigh_anxiety Oh yeah Freeboster does well with Soulfreeze, I just considered DK here tbh. I think with Howling Blast support you indicate the shaman cards? Because as we seen in the reveals so far the class cards were not really designed about the other class in mind. So I doubt Shaman will give Howling Blast support, maybe something minor but it would be sure a welcome surprise if Shaman gives us a decent Howling Blast support.

Holy shit that location's art is fucking incredible!

Tbh I am enjoying BG way more than standard rn. But these new tourist cards look dope af. Gonna lean on yall creators heavily for deck lists though cuz I don’t got time like that 😂🎉❤ luv u bye

DK and rogue, in a vacuum, seem to be getting the best cards.

OMG ITS ANOTHER ZEDDY VIDEO CALLING EVERY CARD IN THE EXPANSION BROKEN! 😂😂😂😂😂

I feel like blizz is completely fumbling the rune mechanic of death knight, it started so good too.

Why are they still printing so much 2 runes cards !?

Just cus decks are 'rainbow' now doesn't mean they will be rainbow goign forward... or next year. Adding double rune cards now is a good move to start prepping for when the rainbow payoffs rotate

Incredible game design. Create a system where 3 runes should be a strong and good reward. Proceed over the coming months to never make 3 rune cards because its to hard to balance and too big of a commitment.

HS is all about synergestic packages with deckbuilding restrictions. Reno just got nerfed lol.

1:13 Skipperino Zalderino

@silvereloking6149

2 күн бұрын

cringe

Freeze Shaman incoming

Even DK will be the new meta

2 mana draw 16 pretty good :)

deaathratle zoo warlock ?

seems like dmg to me not bad ,but yeah if only if it werent for double frost it would have been better!

Cant you just turn 2 play that 1 mana 11 summon 2 copies of this then coin out the dk location in Warlock? HMMMMM No still doesnt fit but would be pretty fun

Tbh the reopen mechanic of location just kills the game even faster… it speed up the game to get it done by turn 5-7. Its not healthy long term

no one would be playing even DK at all, does Genn and Baku not go back into oblivion after the expac comes out?

@locogato3488

2 күн бұрын

They would be playing it in Wild. They won't delete Baku and Genn from the game, they will just take them out of Standard.

IDK the location seems sketchy. Most of the damage might get soaked up by minions, then you can't trade anything to reopen it. Or get 1 reopen at best. So on average that deals 6 Dmg split. I don't think that's worth in any DK deck

@austexan

2 күн бұрын

Exactly. It's a garbo card

I miss triple blood

@pierrecourtois5167

2 күн бұрын

Me too man. Feels like HS hates any kind of control / attrition playstyle

Just official post double and triple ruin are dead

Frostwyrms Fury should be 2 frost gems.

@Cuestrupaster

2 күн бұрын

No.

@JurnaMusic

2 күн бұрын

@@Cuestrupaster if they want frost to be playable it should.

@Cuestrupaster

2 күн бұрын

@@JurnaMusic No one wants that...

@JurnaMusic

2 күн бұрын

@@Cuestrupaster I really don't think it would be a big deal. It's not as strong as it used to be.

@Bladius_

19 сағат бұрын

Worst idea I think I've seen for a while. Fury is a defining card for Frost DK, it's incredibly powerful. It was also, in part, the reason DK can't discover three rune cards anymore, being able to find Fury outside of triple frost decks was completely toxic and that would allow it again.

Hearing him both sides the “DK card is bad because not Rainbow and not Even” and then also complaining about “Why aren’t there more high commitment, 3x rune cards” is wildly displeasing. Every card is cheap rainbow support due to this exact mindset being so loudly spread early into DK’s existence, and is the reason so many DK cards are buffed by stripping runes, which leads to homogenous piles in Rainbow shells. Because people just loudly complain when DK cards don’t just immediately fit in to a preexisting, obviously defined deck until either the devs handhold the intentionally pushed DK rune cards into more decks or someone takes the effort to actually build a real deck around the restriction.

@tarille1043

2 күн бұрын

What's so displeasing? Saying the cards are bad because they're not Rainbow is a reflection of the design choices that have very few impactful double/triple rune cards available that sacrificing a rune option from Rainbow isn't worth it to play them. As far as this "mindset being so loudly spread early into DK's existence" that's not the case. Most people LOVED the triple rune decks. It wasn't until CNE that people wanted Rainbow decks to be an option. It's all been the devs pushing things like double rune decks that are just crap versions of triple rune decks and then the watering down of everything into Rainbow, not the playerbase.

@goldenson4566

2 күн бұрын

my main point for what’s so displeasing with it is the sheer amount of DK cards that get “buffed” by simply having rune restrictions lifted from them. The rune system could be used to better define what makes each type its own and give an archetype to each one, but each time you take a rune off a card, it muddies the identity and abilities of each deck. That even extends to cards like Helya, which should’ve defined what UUF was as an archetype, turning the entire plague package into effectively DK’s version of Libram Paladin, made all the more baffling by the near immediate return of Highlander decks afterward. That is to say that it’s not good to encourage “more generous runes” on a lot of these cards. Slippery slope should not be a single rune card, and even mentioning that as a way to make it good encourages worsening the design of the whole class. The alternative should be encouraging stronger payoff cards, or even tightening back some rune requirements with some possible accompanying buffs to actually make it so Rainbow stops just being a pile of good stuff that keeps getting its runes taken off.

Imho frost death knight will be back 3 rune frost dk mark my words

@Bladius_

19 сағат бұрын

Main issue is finding a way to support corpsicle in FFF, because that card is cracked if you can get it running consistently.

Aggro DK!? Bwahaha

Yay i m dead

These frost cards are pretty….chill. 🤡

Omg

lets go!!!!!

lets go

Nice

Kalos

Cool

🙂

Hype

I can't wait for 2 frost 1 unholly to be meta. This review won't age well.

Give mega bundle pls 🎉🎉🎉🎉

Wow one card that isn't rainbow this whole ass expansion and it's garbage let's goooooooo

@shrekkek9396

2 күн бұрын

It's pretty good, lol. If there's at least 1 frozen minion it's draw 2 for 2, above rate.

@ruidefreitas6827

2 күн бұрын

@@shrekkek9396 it will see play in wild if anything bcs wild has all the combo cards (lady deathwhisper, cheap freezes etc.)

@ProfessorEich

2 күн бұрын

first i thought the same. But keep in mind that we gonna see the shaman cards tomorrow! Maybe there is some kind of freeze or spell school support?

BEST CARD EVER...!!1!!1! Takes 9 mana and two cards for this combo, and basically always has to combo with something to be even remotely playable.. So if you don't have one of those combo cards.. its just a dead card in your hand... And even IF you do? Well for the 15!!!!!1 RANDOM damage combo.. you need, not only 9 mana, 2 cards and a mostly empty board.. you also need your opponent to have AT LEAST 2/10 worth of stats out or you're not going to be able to kill off your minions.. And remember since the location is also killing off minions.. you're more than likely going to need your opponent to have many more.. Say your opponent has like 2 5-5's and you happen to roll this amazing combo at 9 mana.. On average you're hitting every enemy once.. so in the end you manage to use 3-4 activations, 9 mana and 2 cards to clear.. 2 5-5's and do like 4 damage to face.. and now you have an empty board. With 3 5-5's you're probably not even clearing the board on average.. for 2 cards and 9 mana.. etc etc. (Yea you don't HAVE to combo it, you can play it by itself on turn 4, then combo on turn 5 I suppose.. But everything above still applies, and it means you're playing a "4 cost do nothing" on turn 4.. Which if you've played Classic lately just is not going to cut it. And it dang sure it's going to cut it in wild rofl... TLDR: This location is a terrible terrible card. I would bet dollars to dominos this never sees play in any competitive deck.. but 4-5 *'s? Really? Can we please get honest reviews and not the hype train every time? Please??

@impkiller5932

2 күн бұрын

They don't even close to shadowstep lol

@shiizaad

2 күн бұрын

Its not a 4 Mana do nothing because it can do 3 random damage which is not good but not bad either, compare it to like the Gem Trogg for Druid/Warlock that would do 4 random damage if you play it on the same turn with an active finale. I can see your point and that the location can be a bit clunky but I see it in this way: for 12 Mana (4 Mana for the Location and 4x 2 Mana for your HPs) it deals random 15 Damage over 5 turns in the worst case. But if you play Minions with taunt, threatning effects (e.g. Maw and Paw, Gold Penner, etc) or high-attack-minions, you will threaten your opponent to pick the worse of 2 options: let the minion live and deal with the damage/effect or they reactivate your location. Best Case its a 4 Mana Deal 15 if you force your opponent to trade into you and than the location is a 4 Mana Astalor. And you can still reactivate it sooner with combo or just wait the one extra turn. Also even if the location is used for board-clear mostly, this is still pretty good because DK is already midrange-/control-orientated and wants to have the board advantage.

@Cuestrupaster

2 күн бұрын

Look at this guy's copium forgetting about Crop+Threads. ~I don't think it's that broken, but it's a very good card.

@shiizaad

2 күн бұрын

@@Cuestrupaster Threads wont do anything new. If all of the gnomes die at the same time due to threads the location still reopens only once.

@Cuestrupaster

2 күн бұрын

@@shiizaad I know, I'm just giving an example of an unlikely combo that appeared because another card... the location doesn't even need that many things to combo with it actually, because DK already summons a bunch of things... you don't need to deal 15 damage all at once...

second

first

@theinfamousx2275

2 күн бұрын

second

I hope Rainbow DK dies so the design team can finally move on to designing fun cards for DK again. Removing the triple runs was a mistake, especially if the Rainbow payoff is as mediocre and unfun to play as Necrotic Explosion is

GIIIIIIIIIIIIIIVVVVVVVVVVVVEEEEEEEEEEEE MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE MEGAAAAAAAA BUNDLEEEEEEEEEEE! PLZ ty

Frostbitten Freebooter. . . Whoever came up with that pile should be fired. . .it would be interesting to have more freeze cards as any class. .other than mage.

5 damage to enemies ... means face as well, card is broken already !!!!