That woman pushed that baby aside and got in front of her to get away from the fire....Who is this lady? She didn't even reach back to pull the kid with her? Just complete disregard for the kid....and the report said nothing about that, meanwhile my jaw is on the floor 🤯

@conniekabasharira7084

Жыл бұрын

She almost threw the baby down

@elleceegames607

Жыл бұрын

She was discusting

@SN-bl6xm

Жыл бұрын

Poor child! My mother would do the same. She has personality disorders and zero empathy for her children.

@molotochnik.i

Жыл бұрын

A lot of people don’t think about anyone but themselves in adrenaline rushed flight or fight situations and I don’t doubt for a second a huge portion of the population would do the same, selfish but true and how society works

@molotochnik.i

Жыл бұрын

@@gsesquire3441 People really trying to cancel a random woman that doesn’t even know of their existence, will never meet them or see them🤣 Cancel culture no longer applies to only celebs LOL time to ruin the lives of normal working class people

This happened to me from a taser gun that I purchased from online. I had it for only 3 months and kept it plugged in for when I would need it to walk my dog after work "winter time" and it's dark out. I was awakened by my dog barking and growling in the kitchen and then my smoke detectors went off! I got up and could immediately smell burning wires, plastic and a weird smell of electricity, as soon as I got to my kitchen and turned on the light, the taser gun that was plugged in starting hissing loudly and sparking! I grabbed my kitchen towels and knocked it from the wall, grabbed it with the towels and threw it inside my oven and closed the door, because I didn't have time to make it to the back door and throw it outside. It exploded inside the oven and kept on burning even without there being any oxygen left inside the oven. The way it was burning and the white hot color it gave off, I knew I couldn't open the door and use baking powder or a fire extinguisher. I had to call the fire department for them to come out and help me. That is when I learned the dangers of these lithium batteries and now I NEVER- EVER leave anything that is chargeable plugged in that's not attended!... I hope this helps someone else out there, I definitely learned my lesson and could have lost my home, my dog and my life, ironically from a chargeable device designed to protect my life & safety!...

@charlesritter6640

Жыл бұрын

That was quick thinking.

@tylerharris4392

Жыл бұрын

@@gsesquire3441 that's what IC protection is for

@valeriemartinez5631

Жыл бұрын

I don't think I would be able to react that fast

@sandasturner9529

Жыл бұрын

@@valeriemartinez5631 said poster is probably a mother too.

@GriddleMeThis

Жыл бұрын

That was quick thinking but ovens have vents that’s why it still burned it had oxygen.

Let me give you some old school advice. If you must leave a charging battery unattended, make sure it's charging at the lowest amperage possible. 2 amp max. This is true for traditional batteries, and is still true for modern lithium batteries. Yes newer batteries are more capable of handling a fast charge, but it is still potentially dangerous. Only use fast charging if you are needing a partial charge quickly, and if you can be there to keep an eye on it. Otherwise prevent battery overheating via low amperage trickle charging.

@EnchantedSmellyWolf

Жыл бұрын

Indeed!

@UTR1

Жыл бұрын

My car has a built in Qi wireless charger and for some reason, my iPhone gets SUPER hot if I use it.. makes me really nervous. So I use a 12v socket corded charger instead. There should be better regulation on how these systems are made. I’m not for *more* govt in most cases, but I don’t believe many people understand that even if you buy something from a reputable company, the technology inside can still be pushing the limits on safety.

@theashpilez

Жыл бұрын

That iz toooo complicated for whamen to understand. To them everything gets filled up in two minutes . This reality of awareness will not change anytime soon.

@chuckyyes

Жыл бұрын

@@theashpilez 😂😂

@alexapuerta

Жыл бұрын

Also, make sure Optimized Charging and Overcharge Protection is turned on in device settings.

My neighbor is one of those lithium battery deaths from our apartment fire. My fiance and I lived next door, the explosion happened behind my head at 1 a.m. while in bed and his scooter battery was being charged by his front door entry way but it was my bedroom wall. 320 Grafton Ave in Dayton Ohio. The explosion blew his front door off the hinges and the fire was in the hall so we couldn't get out our door and we lived on the 3rd story with a concrete parking lot outside our windows. Thank God firefighters made it within minutes because we had to be rescued by the latter. My neighbor Dale had dementia and he was found by the door and his husband survived. I'll never underestimate fire and I have severe PTSD from that night. Smh.

@SmokeyTreats

Жыл бұрын

Very scary & horrific! Glad for those who survived!

@tira2145

Жыл бұрын

Hopefully you sure the battery maker and we're awarded millions of dollars.

@tira2145

Жыл бұрын

Sued the battery maker.

@goldendragon8393

Жыл бұрын

Seek therapy

@truehappiness4U

Жыл бұрын

PTSD? Get professional help them! Asap! Or your life will be more scary, more anxiety. Professional help does help, or else those jobs don’t exist.

This is why newer systems should have charge indicators connected to limiters. The charge hits a certain level, the charge detector sends a single, the limiter cuts power off and requires manual action to reset.

@jojodroid31

Жыл бұрын

Every consumer device has a BMS, or battery management system. It cuts off power when the battery gets too hot or the voltage too high. Your phone doesn't explode when you charge it overnight either.

@STho205

Жыл бұрын

However phones were ignighting in people's pockets, on tables and brief cases a few years ago even when not actively charging. Every contrivance of man can fail, despite assurances it is Unsinkable, Lifetime service, reliable, fully safe. Almost nobody will follow the advice at the end of this piece, and the UL sticker is about as meaningful down the production line as a DOT sticker on a motorcycle helmet. It simply means the manufacturer at one time was careful with quality control while the auditor was there. Since then they've change plants, suppliers or cut staff.

@HobbyOrganist

Жыл бұрын

That can FAIL though...

@HobbyOrganist

Жыл бұрын

@@tripplefives1402 Given how many BILLIONS of these phones there are and how many wind up in the landfill, the number of these fires is exceedingly rare! Americans alone Toss out 151 Million Phones A Year. In 2016, the average smartphone was replaced after 28.1 months. So about every 2 years all these phones get replaced, but we see a dozen, two dozen pocket fires?

@weeardguy

Ай бұрын

Well, it's good to know the industry knows what it's doing for decades already. Advanced BMS systems/IC's by Texas Instruments and Maxim for example can be configured to do everything you talk about.

It's not just the fire, but the chemicals associated with lithium batteries and the deadly gas that is put off by the burning. Manufacturers and government rushed too quick to something they thought was the answer but have created a more lethal problem that will cause environmental issues for many decades to come.

@trueheartintent

Жыл бұрын

They knew the dangers; they’re not incompetent- they’re malevolent. If you think they made this switch from gasoline cars, to electric, as some sort of altruistic way to protect the environment, then you’re smoking crack.

@stagsmcnasty1

Жыл бұрын

Wrong again, lithium iron phosphate is not the same as lithium ion which has been used for 20 plus years.

@potatoSaladMonkeyCats

Жыл бұрын

Exactly

@Z020852

Жыл бұрын

They even forgot why we even have all these cars in the first place: they rushed these to get out of the problem of shovelling massive quanities of horse poop off of NYC streets.

@ExceptionalLibra

Жыл бұрын

Um, both have rushed multiple things without proper research for decades. The list is enormous. Look at us now. History is full of examples that show extreme incompetence when introducing things to consumers.

I seriously hope that child is ok and doesn’t have second to third degree burns 😕

@guppygb6078

Жыл бұрын

She died.

@TheInvisibleMan1001

Жыл бұрын

​@guppygb6078 Yeah, it's very unfortunate🤣

@g.e131

Жыл бұрын

​@@TheInvisibleMan1001 It's funny to you that a little girl died?

@tellmemoreplease868

Жыл бұрын

That little girl is alive. Another girl passed.

@ozrob76

Жыл бұрын

I love how the Mom just noped out and almost pulled the bike down to block her path out of danger... 😬🤔

Not only did the child get pushed out of the way by the adult, she had to save herself!!??

*slowly unplugs my lithium ion battery-powered speaker that i normally leave just plugged in for convenience* 😳

@soilBGuRu420

Жыл бұрын

😂😂😂😂💀💀💀

@mogulmade

Жыл бұрын

Just walked to the bathroom to unplug mine. Everything will henceforth be disconnected if not in use.

@fltfathin

Жыл бұрын

Most devices are safe-ish to constantly charge, it's the size of the battery and lack of safety measure in them is the cause

That's why lithium iron phosphate batteries are superior. LiFePO4 use a safer chemistry which is not prone to overheating to dangerous levels. It's important to understand this advantage when shopping for portable power stations as backup power sources in the home.

@matthewweaver1123

Жыл бұрын

Yes, you give up some power density, but the tradeoff is a chemistry that is much more tolerant to less than perfect charge/discharge depth and temperature extremes.

@FreedomAirguns

Жыл бұрын

WRONG, it's LTO (lithium titanate). LiFePO4 are among the riskier chemistries. They have a potential energy on par with TNT.

@arturv83

Жыл бұрын

@@FreedomAirguns LiFePO4 is still safer vs lithium ion right?

@FreedomAirguns

Жыл бұрын

@@arturv83 Lithium ion is a marketing gimmick. They're all based on "lithium ions" moving from anode to cathode and "vice versa", but the various chemistries can be different. So far, and you can see tests done by firefighters on youtube on the matter, LTO are the best out there.

@arturv83

Жыл бұрын

@@FreedomAirguns yes but there is a big difference in how LiFePO4 performs/functions vs lithium ion… do you have links to the tests you mentioned?

My cousin is a volunteer firefighter in Kansas. He said they have had 3 or 4 fires at their dump last year, caused by lithium batteries

My friend once rented from a guy in New York who used his apartment as a conduit/relay for shipping "used" electronics. My friend didn't ask any questions because the rent was dirt cheap in comparison to the surrounding community (cash under the table; the landlord freaked out when he tried to pay him in check one day). Then the landlord started shipping bulk quantities of lithium ion batteries through his place and he bolted; he said he didn't like sleeping next to a pile of napalm and grenades LOL

@rayvega3163

Жыл бұрын

Obviously not the point of this video but why would the landlord be freaked out when your friend tries to pay him a check? And why did he ship those large quantities of bulk quantities to your friend?

@CytotoxinK

Жыл бұрын

@@rayvega3163 it's likely that the landlord's "used electronics business" was illegal; they were either stolen, counterfeit, imported but didn't meet US quality/safety standards, sold/shipped through a third-party residence to evade taxes, etc. Criminals prefer to be paid in cash because it provides greater anonymity. To obtain a checking account (and recieve payment through checks), you need to provide a name, phone number, address, social security number, etc. which make it easier for the police to track you down; that's why they avoid formal banking like the plague.

@brentfisher902

6 ай бұрын

@@CytotoxinK Amun Ra Darwin to that one...

People don't believe it can happen until it happens to them. Never happened to me but Im always very careful with my vapes, hoverboards and even my phone, anything that uses lithium ion batteries has the potential for fires and explosions. It's really hard to put out these fires too, just look up how much harder it is to put out an electric vehicle fire than a regular gas car fire.

@hus390

Жыл бұрын

They said here they removed safety feature. I guess it most of the times explodes because people are negligent

@avanz2885

Жыл бұрын

My phone has a safety feature that stops charging when the battery is 85%, I've fallen asleep many times while charging my phone very close to my face. Safety feature or not, I need to stop that 👍

@T1Oracle

Жыл бұрын

​@@avanz2885It's bad for your battery anyway. Only charge as much as you are going to use. Don't keep the battery full longer than it needs to be.

@cjporterfield1955

Жыл бұрын

It's not harder, it's impossible, I am a firefighter, we just back out of Lithium.

@reachandler3655

Жыл бұрын

@atletico ATM Not necessarily, you can't always see if a battery is damaged, also how would you know if the safety system to prevent overcharging is not working correctly?

WOW, Was that the mom of that girl in the second video?? Not only did she NOT immediately grab her kid to get her out of harm’s way, but she practically SHOVED HER into the fire so she could get herself to safety. 👍 Mother of the Year Award right there.👏👏👏

@Speed00007

Жыл бұрын

She is probabaly an influencer that takes selfies and makes dancing videos to get likes. Just the typical modern woman.

@javiruiz8365

Жыл бұрын

Please don’t shame bLK women!!!

@yatishsadasivan

Жыл бұрын

Seriously what kind of woman is she.... Call CPS!!

@DanaWalker-wi2uf

Жыл бұрын

@@javiruiz8365 shes black, what of it? you make cruddy excuses

@mkfmgaming3019

Жыл бұрын

Notice the demographic 💀💀💀💀

me: literally sleeps beside a full stack of lithium batteries for my vape and portable fan ☠️

@Zectro73

6 ай бұрын

Me too Nintendo switch, phones, keyboards, etc. thank God it doesn't catch fire 🔥

I really hope that's not that womans baby the way she saved herself and not the baby. 😡

@goldendragon8393

Жыл бұрын

I'd rather it be 1 dead than 2.

Lol, this proves nothing. They intentionally removed the safety feature so the battery would fail. 99.9% of the time, safety mechanism would kick in and short circuit first before it even gets over loaded. If you are going to use this a way to fear monger the battery technologies, you are absolutely doing a poor job. One could easily say that your electrical system in your home could easily fail as well if you take away the safety feature. If you take away the circuit breaker in your home, any electronics could have easily done something similar. One could easily say that your refrigerator is combustible if the compression safety feature is remove causing infinite compression until it becomes literally an IED.

@nastybastardatlive

Жыл бұрын

Blablabla; it proves plenty. Lets give out hand grenades to everyone; they have a safety latch that makes them harmless, and they make wonderful paperweights.

@tmilesffl

Жыл бұрын

Glad to see you missed the point. Considering there are hundreds if not thousands of fires each year from lithium batteries, research like this needs to happen.

There needs to be safety standards in place for ALL electronics using lithium batteries 🔋 I remember when Hover Boards were very popular & there were lots of fires that occurred due to over charging...We Need to Have Standard Safety in all Electronics.

@houzeroze

Жыл бұрын

Batteries have UL certification.

@tylerharris4392

Жыл бұрын

Yup

@guidedbygreen1480

Жыл бұрын

Agree, we need better standards built into the batteries to prevent thermal runaway.

@chadhindsley5431

Жыл бұрын

Yeah right. With the rush for lithium everything for electronics and cars to get rid of gas + with the cheap cost of china made batteries with cut corners there's going to be a lot of problems

@herculesbrofister265

Жыл бұрын

Good luck with that. For instance amazon is awash with laser pointers that greatly exceed the legal limit for output. That's a law already in place, but ignored and unenforced.

These batteries are also found in some RC cars, which can catch fire without the car running but by just being connected to the car (happened to me once)

@henrywashington3732

Жыл бұрын

Found in MOST rc vehicle's these days. Nobody using old NICD and Nimh batteries anymore. Lipo's are way lighter and put out superior power.

@gamercat7004

Жыл бұрын

I have lipo batteries for my rc I worry about them. I don't keep them charged fully when not in use.

@ItalianMetalHED

Жыл бұрын

Old RC cars used Nickel cadmium which was much safer but density was a bit less

@okruiner7835

Жыл бұрын

@@gamercat7004 storage voltage?

@gamercat7004

Жыл бұрын

@@okruiner7835 3.85v at 30% store charge

Don't overcharge your lipos, Always attend charging batteries, Never poke lipos with sharp or metal objects. discharge lipo batteries properly and don't over discharge when using. Dispose of properly. *Read the warning labels.* I got into FPV drones and this is basically my biggest worry either then losing a expensive drone.

@poison7512

Жыл бұрын

Good luck getting the general population to figure that out.

@nuttysquirrel8816

Жыл бұрын

If it's dented don't use it.

@jojodroid31

Жыл бұрын

Get a lipo pouch if you don't have one already.

So the woman pushed the child into the bike and rushed out the door. She could’ve picked the baby up. Was that her mother? My goodness. Poor baby.

@sgrey2350

Жыл бұрын

And the baby will grow up to be a mother just like that one. Vicious cycle that only individuals can break.

@QueenEsther414

Жыл бұрын

Stop being so quick to pass judgement because the situation happened so fast the mother was probably in a state of shock. Like you got angel wings on walking around being sinless and perfect. STOP IT!

@QueenEsther414

Жыл бұрын

@@sgrey2350 You need to work out your own salvation with fear and trembling because the situation didn’t happen to you and the mother was in shock. I’m sure she would not purposely try to hurt her own child. People’s response time is different from yours so knock off the judgment and thank God that they’re both okay. The government and companies are pushing all this so called new technology and the citizens don’t know what the dangers are and thy should be concerned so they can make wise choices. Peace! ✌🏾

@floridagirl386

Жыл бұрын

​@QueenEsther414 in a state of shock your natural mother instinct comes out. You couldn't tell me otherwise.

@lyricofwise6894

Жыл бұрын

​@Acts2:38 Exactly, people quick to emotion but not quick to think in their judgements (just like in the vid). Explosion happened in HALF a second (the vid is in slow mo) and she probably didn't know kid was there and intended to swipe out of the way the bike, in that half second she was already in flight mode mentally the moment it smoked up

But as you mentioned, in order to perform those tests they had to disable the security features, therefore, it was intentionally produced. What this means is the there must be a stronger enforcement from government agencies to force manufacturers to maintain and improve battery safety features to protect all

@fltfathin

Жыл бұрын

Meanwhile probably standardize charger and battery interface so if they can't comply to the spec, let 3rd party manufacturers handle it.

"Wait, aren't these batteries also in our cars?" "Shhhh, thou shalt not question the EV inquisition"

Batteries exploding with enough energy to litterally throw you is scary

@Avalanche_Ride_92

Жыл бұрын

Imagine if it was a car battery that was over charged and blowing you away and sound like a shotgun! My friend had that happen to her and she learned not be near it when it's plugged in

Imagine that happening during a flight

@blueforest2927

Жыл бұрын

Yikes !

@duhsunnyday8590

Жыл бұрын

That's why they always ask if u have anything with lithium batteries

@mexicanpepe4life

Жыл бұрын

@@duhsunnyday8590 99% of the global population have zero clue

@tira2145

Жыл бұрын

Happened to a company called valuejet. Back in the 90's. Killed everyone on board.

@JS-zb1vv

Жыл бұрын

Can’t bring a lot of lithium batteries on planes

Here is a pro tip for lithium battery charging, try to charge at a lower speed and limit charging to 80% Not only do you decrease battery tear by a factor of a thousand, you increase the charging cycles the battery can do and decrease the chance of a catastrophical failure.

A fire chief in California who has studied these types of fires said that an electric car fire can require up to 25,000(!) gallons of water to extinguish, versus 750 gallons for a gasoline car. That does not sound very 'green' to me.

They "removed the safety features" from the battery and then purposely over charged it? I bet if I remove the brakes from my car it will crash...

@tmilesffl

Жыл бұрын

And yet with the safety devices, these things DO happen. Glad to see you missed the point.

@Mikey8239

Жыл бұрын

@@tmilesffl Well line them up as provided and test, don't remove the safety devices then over charge them. Batteries of this type blow up when over charged, what they did was like throwing a brick in water to see if it sinks.

@anzuis7

Жыл бұрын

@@tmilesfflnot really. Usually when these happen it’s because of the lack of safety features or just user error.

@valeriehofmann2615

Жыл бұрын

What safety feature did they remove and how do you overcharge them?

This is such poor reporting. Raw numbers entirely miss the point of the problem; what is important is the rate and comparisons to what electric bikes, scooters, and vehicles are replacing. At 216 fires in NYC with a minimum of 92,000 ebikes/scooters of NYC (Citi + estimates of delivery biker estimates), that's a rate of 234 fires per 100k ebikes per year. Compare that to vehicles: Nationally, there are 1530 ICE vehicle fires per 100k cars and 3475 per 100k hybrids per year. Oh, and if you were wondering, the rate is 25 per 100k for EVs, so it's likely that we're just undercounting ebikes that aren't sold and the true rate is closer to this. The scale of the issue is TEENY compared to gasoline vehicles, which ebikes are largely able to replace in many metro areas. Ebikes and scooters could be made safer through regulations, I agree. Let's require commercial users to pass a course in safe charging and offer outdoor charging lockers in places like NYC. But let's not fear-monger our way out of a safer, greener technology.

@AnyColorYouLikeBro

Жыл бұрын

ICE engines don't spontaneously combust, so your comparison is pointless.

Whenever I hear someone suffered a TBI on the job I always wonder what makes them go back. So glad that they’re alive to tell the tale.

@obi-wankenobi1750

Жыл бұрын

Probably the TBI lol

@brentfisher902

6 ай бұрын

@@phillipbanes5484 That's what I say too...when the interviewer says "Why do you want to work for us?" I would replay..."Homelessness is highly over-glamorized"

We need more of these Li-Ions and I need a really big one in our garage 😂

Li-Ion soon will be a thing of the past, since were now moving to solid state battery, it wont burn easily, and it can withstand room temperature up to 90 C degrees.

@westelaudio943

Жыл бұрын

Still waiting bro...

@exoticcar5482

Жыл бұрын

I never heard of Solid State batteries

@Felevr

Жыл бұрын

@@exoticcar5482 its new, youtube it.. or google it. Ull find it ☺️

@EricHurwitz

Жыл бұрын

​@@exoticcar5482 look up company called quantum scape and solid power.

@EricHurwitz

Жыл бұрын

​@@exoticcar5482 also look into lithium iron phosphate as they are safer than lithium ion.

Here's a thought. Don't take off the safety parts.

@tmilesffl

Жыл бұрын

And yet with the safety devices, these things DO happen. Glad to see you missed the point.

@123asap6

Жыл бұрын

@@tmilesffl Moral of the story is Lithium is one of the MOST REACTIVE elements out there. Even in high school chemistry they always warn against any moisture or heat in close contact with anything lithium or similar elements like flouride because their reactivity is what makes them dangerous. They simply don't want to exist even when in compound forms. At the end of the day Li-Ion or any lithium based batteries for that matter are all potential IED's if you do even as much as scratch them a little, or heat them above 130 degrees Fahrenheit.

Most electronic equipment have overcharging protection on them.

My hand is tangling as I’m holding my phone with its powerful lithium ion battery.

I didn't even hear any of that. I was too in shock at the lady throwing the baby back into a fire to save herself. Wtf

@te9591

Жыл бұрын

She didn't throw the baby, the child was behind her.

@kayc7442

Жыл бұрын

Women first, then the children. Men are left behind to die

For any rechargeable electric appliance that I'm unsure it's overcharged safety system, I usually plug it to a timer and set the time based on the device charging time.

@artchick07

Жыл бұрын

Where did you find your timer?

@uelld.8371

Жыл бұрын

@@artchick07 I just buy it from my local hardware store. Any retail/hardware store usually sell them, either the analog 24 hour or the digital ones (called electric socket timer). Even online shop like Amazon has it, just make sure that the socket is compatible (international items).

@floridagirl386

Жыл бұрын

​@@artchick07any walmart or hardware store.

Please continue to spread the word on this matter. Give the opportunity to have case device to contain the battery in. The battery should be easy removed from its device and than stored in safe case for charging.

As someone with an RC car hobby, LIPOs are finicky & require attention / proper care. I always store them in a flame retardent case in a 50% charged state & always balance charge them.

Wow - thanks for this report. I needed to hear it. Have been considering getting a solar generator like this for emergency use. Haven't heard this part of the story before.

@mario12359

Жыл бұрын

Get a lithium ion phosphate battery not a lithium ion. The phosphate batteries not only last 4-5 times longer but are significantly less likely to be prone to fires.

This almost always occurs when using a wrong charger. If you're supposed to charge at 1 amp and you charge at 5 amps no wonder why it explodes

@rennmaxbeta

Жыл бұрын

Devices only draw the current they need. Using a higher amp charger is usually fine.

@cosmic5934

Жыл бұрын

@@rennmaxbeta perhaps its faulty charging circuits in the phones or the chargers leaking out much higher voltages than they should be

@T1Oracle

Жыл бұрын

​@@rennmaxbetaIt's always fine. It's like using a bridge built to carry a semi, just for small cars. Overcapacity is never the problem, under capacity is. If you draw 5amps on a wire meant for 2, that wire will burn. A 5 amp wire is simply a thicker wire than a 2 amp wire.

@edd868

Жыл бұрын

Using a fast charger on something not made for a fast charger sounds like a no no

@poison7512

Жыл бұрын

​@@rennmaxbeta that doesn't apply to hobby grade stuff. You can definitely set the charge rate manually in those instances.

That explosion from the scooter was huge! It took the windows out! 😳

@Avalanche_Ride_92

Жыл бұрын

Big Punch from small packages Not being funny!

It's not just vehicles with these, many handheld and household objects are starting to use them. The phone you carry every day likely has one

I’ve never had or known of a lithium ion fire in my area. I would love to see the data because these fires can suddenly be happening like it’s a new trend. There are millions of batteries in peoples homes.

@MA-mh1vs

Жыл бұрын

There have been several recalls due to defective batteries catching fire.

@users4007

Жыл бұрын

Not a new thing, but since people are buying electric vehicles more this has became more common, still not that common but if it happens it is very dangerous because the fire is hard to put out

@jaredlowe3927

Жыл бұрын

Must be manufacturing issues. All smartphone batteries use lithium batteries. If manufacturing is bad, the battery reacts chemically inside, creating a bridge of solid lithium compounds that cause overheating. If manufacturing is good, that will not happen

"Removed the saftey features" something that all the products here have in common. Remove the saftey features to your phones battery and stick it in your pocket or bypass the fuses in your house. The message here is make sure you buy from a proper source, have good duligence like anything else in your home.

@emma70707

Жыл бұрын

This needs to be higher up! Sure, some yahoos buy cheap knock-off batteries without battery management systems or do stupid things like charge them after a bad accident, but this is largely a safe technology that people have trusted to live in their back pocked or backpack for *many years*. It's important to put regulations into place in dense places like NYC where there's a huge financial incentive for delivery ebike riders to abuse their batteries (likely purchased cheaply in the first place and to charge them more quickly than they're meant to be charged), like having charging lockers outside as they do in parts of Asia if they can be temperature-regulated easily and having commercial users go through a training program about safe training practices. But it's silly that cities are talking about full on bans in residences when the majority of reputable brands are as safe as your laptop.

One question here: how does one prevent a battery from “overcharging” ? Are we supposed to unplug it the moment it reaches 100% ? With some devices it’s not easy to tell. With others (hybrid vehicle, for example) it’s not under user control.

@EricHurwitz

Жыл бұрын

Technically we aren't supposed to charge li-ion over 80%

@jeffreywoods4040

Жыл бұрын

Mainly by only using smart chargers and high-quality batteries with protection and monitoring electronics built-in. Many of these disasters happen when something is poorly-manufactured, counterfeit with safety features removed or bypassed, or where li-ion batteries are improperly wired as a “drop-in upgrade” for simpler, older battery types. Electric cars have a ton of battery safety features, as do original laptop, power tool, and phone batteries. Lithium ion batteries do not like to be damaged, particularly by crushing or puncturing. This causes an internal short that lights flammable metals on fire. Be sure children know to come clean with anything they damage, and if you ever see something “bulging”, unplug it and get it serviced.

The alarm should be on quality control. I swear the main draw against batteries is how expensive or unreliable they can be.

Whoa! Thanks for the video. I have a bad habit of overcharging batteries so this is an eye opener.

@michaelgraham8504

Жыл бұрын

NEVER OVERCHARGE LITHIUM BATTERIES! FIRE RISK

In the state of Tamilnadu in India at least four or five lithium battery fires were reported last summer. In one case a father and daughter died at their home when they kept the removable lithium battery charging overnight in their house living room.

Pro tip if you own an android or and iphone you should have settings that limit your battery to 85% it helps to keep your batteries below 100% to help the life span and helps not push the batteries

@F35Nerd

Жыл бұрын

It doesn't limit your battery to 85% forever. At least on my Pixel, it fast charges to 85%, then it stops, then slowly charges up until my alarm goes off.

@windsofmarchjourneyperrytr2823

Жыл бұрын

I find those dumb Qi slow charger things make the battery way hotter than fast charge

@jaredz9507

Жыл бұрын

@@F35Nerd you might have a routine set up, i have my s21+ hold 85% when i sleep and before my alarm goes off to go to work it will change back up too 100% I've had this phone since it's came out and this is how i treat all of my lithium batterys for my PEVS

The lesson here is only purchase electronics from reputable brands, DO NOT purchase random off brands you have never heard of. Also do not leave ANY electronics charging for extended period of time. Always always check your electronics

This is my biggest fear. Not theft, not flood, but all the lithium-ion battery products in my house. When I stop using a device with one, I charge to ~40%, then put in the oven (we don't use the oven) so if it catches fire it won't catch the house on fire.

@mercurialmagictrees

Жыл бұрын

Oh interesting. I suppose you need to remember that before you preheat the oven before you bake something. A metal container or fire proof safe would work as well.

@plateshutoverlock

Жыл бұрын

I would use a junk, non working oven that's not connected to anything for this.

@jaredlowe3927

Жыл бұрын

That’s a good idea! We need to have better battery recycling infrastructure. Traditional car batteries have a near perfect recycling system.

@windsofmarchjourneyperrytr2823

Жыл бұрын

@@plateshutoverlock Yup. Brilliant to give a potential fire a now WIDE-OPEN GAS LINE. right??? Lol

@windsofmarchjourneyperrytr2823

Жыл бұрын

Also, from having a cr*p oven (Magic Chef), I assure you. They DO most certainly have air vents. It comes out the vents under the display.

Good to see that mother save her child 👍👍👍

So don’t remove the safety switches from batteries when you’re charging. Got it thank you. We would have never realized that.

😂 remember, when we all said years ago, we should be using sodium ion batteries, and everybody laughed at us ? 😂

if you're into electronics like i am and work with lithium batteries, don't forget to discharge them to below 3.6V. Discharged batteries are alot harder to light on fire since the lithium is in an innert, oxidized state Also, if you store them fully charged they're gonna loose capacity and increase their internal resistance over time

@mercurialmagictrees

Жыл бұрын

Good advice thanks. So old phones that are completely drained of energy are safe to have around or is it better to take them to recycling. I like to collect my old phones and use them as a paper weight but if it's unsafe I will recycle them.

@tobbleboii5988

Жыл бұрын

@@mercurialmagictrees it's always better to give them to recycling, so that they can be recycled. But batteries mostly fail durcing charging or when they are pierced. Especially when the battery has lasted years without incident, having them around is pretty safe

Most technologies these days have safety features to stop charging after a certain percentage or at 100% the reason they had to shut off the safety feature on the scooter is exactly that. The technology is safe and it’s more like opponents of technology like EV and solar are against this technology becoming mainstream.

@BD-bditw

Жыл бұрын

I think you have missed the point on this. They switched off the safety circuit to illustrate what can happen when the safety circuit fails, as there is every chance of it so doing. Any silicon chip can overheat and break down with normal use. The demonstration is so appropriate to illustrate the dangers, just like a demonstration of a cigarette being left on a piece of furniture. But on the subject of EVs, they are crap and people power will put and end to the madness of them being forced on people who do not want them. Why should taxpayer's money be used to subsidise (bribe) people into buying them? In the UK a recent survey tells us that only one in ten of EV buyers are women! No prizes for guessing why.

@b0red324

Жыл бұрын

@@BD-bditw with the raising costs of gas why are people complaining that gas is 5-6 dollars a gallon we caused the prices to go up with our consumption if it’s 10 dollars a gallon all you can do is pay the price and accept it.

Last year, My uncles shed got burned down due to overcharging Li-ion batteries without using a appropriate charger. Fire depts responded and killed the fire. At least they put so many gas cans in it. ALMOST burned down the neighbor’s house.

Everybody who owns and stores/charges a large lithium battery in their home should have a "Firesak" it's a bag that is designed to contain the explosion & fire and gives you plenty of time to react compared to not having one.

never had any issues with any kind of batteries for decades. even the the recent years purchases of cheap made in china electronics hasn't cause me any issues with it's batteries. the battery industry's claim of rare failure is indeed true. at least for me and most people i know.

@BeautyBeastRC

Жыл бұрын

Same. It's not hard to not overcharge a battery on any decent charger.

@skyking6989

Жыл бұрын

Because people are using the wrong charger. If it fits they plug it in and no wonder why they explode

@brega6286

11 ай бұрын

All of us want to hope to be one of the "most".

I had a outlet spark around new years so I ran to my bf who was in the shower and he ran to our fuse box and turned off everything, when he purchased the house he knew the bedrooms hadn't been renovated but Jesus that was some old wiring

@floridagirl386

Жыл бұрын

What

@johnmcdermitt1693

Жыл бұрын

What does that have to do with lithium batteries????

If your instinct is to protect yourself and not sacrifice yourself for your child, you’re not a good parent.

Key point, you removed the safeties. Are their defective batteries out there? Yes, but they are usually in knock off products. Are their protections you can take? Yes, you can purchase a timer to limit how long the battery charges. Charge the battery someplace where there is less likely hood of a secondary fire. When I charge my smaller batterie or my DJI batteries, I do it on the stove so if they catch fire, the chance of it spreading is small. Anything has the potential to be dangerous, not just Lithium Ion batteries. BTW - I purchased some no name rechargeable lights online and the batteries overcharged and caught fire. But they were enclosed in a meal box, so I didn't even know about it until later that day. Just another use for metal ammo cans.

@ananda_miaoyin

Жыл бұрын

Knock off products.... Like Tesla?

@so047

Жыл бұрын

there not their... smh

0:18 was that lady trying to pull away from her kid AND never reached down to help the kid?! WTF!?

I don't do it for my phone but for almost anything else I charge there is a timer set for that outlet incase I forget to pull whatever off the charger. I started doing this with my cordless tools due to all the garage fires I've seen or heard about. Then I figured it must be a good idea for everything else.

Sadly this happened to my mother's house almost a week back, Her roommate plugged a hoverboard cord into the wall and left it in and it exploded and set the whole attic on fire.

lithium battery failures are incredibly rare and almost always caused by user error. even cheap Chinese battery cells will never just randomly blow up. I'm all for battery safety, but lets not pretend like this is some new epidemic. this kind of reporting turns off a lot of people from going green and buying stuff like electric bikes, scooters, and cars because they think the battery is just gonna randomly blow up one day. the best way to prevent fires is to not overcharge and to not charge the battery in an extremely hot environment. if you follow these rules you are completely safe.

@A22DNAL

Жыл бұрын

Eh, I think it is an epidemic of sorts with the AMOUNT of things that have begun to go up in smoke...by being manufactured in places with lax standards, by companies with even worse standards.

Once there is a lot of lithium in the water...we will all be much happier...:-)

I want to go electric but the dangers of lithium ion explosions really prevents me from getting an EV. I live in a hot country and I have no faith that these batteries can withstand the heat here. I've seen so many videos about EV fires and it takes so long to put it out. These manufacturers haven't made preventative designs to make the fires under control when this situtation happens. Until they do, my current gas powered car will do.

My son gets so mad at me for charging my phone over night. Tells me it can start a fire… I thought he was being overly careful because he is but omg!

I'll keep driving my gas powered vehicle.

Keep on pushing for everything electric

@DivineLightPaladin

Жыл бұрын

Keep pretending this doesn't happen with flammable liquid combustion engines with batteries

@senoJSR

Жыл бұрын

@@DivineLightPaladin it doesn't

too many sheep ignorant people out there buying EV without knowing how dangerous batteries are. anything govt push on you, do the opposite

Imagine your massive 1,000 pound electric car battery igniting under you while driving on highway at 70mph with your family inside the car. Everyone would be toast before your could even get the car stopped. There are some videos of the ev’s catching on fire while people in them and the doors won’t open. Have to climb out through window. Luckily I’ve only seen it happen when stopped so they had time to get out.

The fires are caused by the lack of a charge controler on things like e-bikes, scooters, and similar devices. They will not combust unplugged.

@tmilesffl

Жыл бұрын

They also don't charge "Unplugged"

@falcorthewonderdog2758

Жыл бұрын

Lots of videos online of e bikes bursting into flames while chained to a bike rack.

Screw that lady who showed so much cowardess in the care of that baby, didn't even reach for her or take the brunt of the blast.

They act like these batteries are brand new or something. Phones, laptops, cordless tools, all sorts of things have lithium batteries. They all should have battery management systems attached to prevent overcharging. Even in the video they said that they purposely disabled the battery protection to overcharge it which caused the explosion and fire!

Ain't nothing like purposely poisoning the air with a cup of tea in the morning

So much for electric cars

Lithium isn’t new, we;ve had these battery’s in our homes for decades! People are usually the issue!

"This house has everything you'd find in a typical home" Shows motorcycle in the living room.

I'm more intrigued by the quality of the sofas not moving in the blast and more concerned how easily the whole window frames blew out.

I swear we gonna have Batteries in our clothes at some point.

Well, almost EVERYONE wears a lithium-ion battery in its pocket, everyday. Failures happens, but still they are quite rare vs. the number of batteries used worldwide. New solid-state batteries will solve this safety issue aswell.

Do these products not have a charge cutoff feature or something so they dont overcharge?

A while ago, 2007-ish I had a Motorola razr explode in my pocket. Didn't catch fire but that much heat down there wasn't fun. Not sure what happened since it wasn't charging I guess the battery just failed

Electric Cars being the "future" of transportation is a concerning future...

If the battery is swollen, don't use it and certainly don't charge it.

Now imagine a electric car in your garage plugged in all night....

Here we saw it first on TODAY. But what about tomorrow?

This is one of the major things that would worry me about an electric Car. They take too long to charge just standing there by it like you would if you were filling up with petrol, but I'd be worried about going off for a coffee and leaving it charging

@beanapprentice1687

Жыл бұрын

EVs almost never randomly catch fire. Also, most EV charging is done at home overnight, so you're not standing around anywhere.

1:06 so the average person would purposefully remove the safety feature 😏😏😏

Did y’all see that last clip in the lower right hand corner where that adult left that kid! How do you not think about a kid in that situation???

Be very wary of purchasing "off brand" Li-ion batteries, particularly large capacity ones and devices that have them installed.

@windsofmarchjourneyperrytr2823

Жыл бұрын

Try to find the right one w UL listing. Good luck.

"Researchers removed the safety features from the battery to ensure it would fail." @1:18 . That's like saying you removed the brakes from a car to show just how dangerous vehicles are. Lifepo4 (lithium iron phosphate) is very stable and won't explode like they are showing. The batteries that fail are cheap Chinese lithium iron polymer or lithium cobalt batteries that have no safety measures installed. Point is, don't buy cheap batteries and know the makeup of the battery before you buy and you're fine.

"sparks a fire" **battery proceeds to literally explode**

Yeah a typical residents park their scooters in the living room. So buying electric cars. They're a scam. 30 grand to replace the cheapest car battery.

Many scooters have dual charge points and two chargers but manual recommends using 1 port 1 charger.

Do people realize any vehicle can catch on fire for anything? Last year a box truck blew up outside of my girlfriend’s house in the middle of February. Hadn’t been touched for months and it was freezing out. She got woken up at 5am to a loud boom and the truck was engulfed in flames. Sometimes faulty wiring can be to blame. It’s not always electric vehicles or lithium batteries.. but people need something to complain about when they’re not complaining about gas prices.

As an electrician, the best advice I can give is never to use any electrical producs that arent stamped with UL or an intertek logo. These are professional laboratories that test any electrical equipment that goes to market. A product with a UL stamp has been tested and deemed safe. Never buy knock off products ever. Spend the extra money.