Nothin better than watching TFL snow videos at 4 in the morning

@13moclov

3 жыл бұрын

I got a DUI baby Wooooo!

@dtlusk24

3 жыл бұрын

@@13moclov wow your brilliant 👏

@13moclov

3 жыл бұрын

@@dtlusk24 thank you

@13moclov

3 жыл бұрын

@@dtlusk24 Also it's you're

@dtlusk24

3 жыл бұрын

@@13moclov 😆😅

Even though it is pricey - it is about $6-8k cheaper than putting a diesel and leather in the Ram 1500 or Ford F-150. You might get a slightly cheaper trim at Chevy, but there is no comparison in price when you look at the complete package. Needless to say, my AT4 is on order...

@crystal2latina509

3 жыл бұрын

Any updates?

Even on NY's Day you guys are pumping out the quality content! Keep it up, guys, and here's to an awesome 2021!

Were I looking for a new half-ton 4WD pickup (I'm not), the GMC AT4 with the diesel would be about #1 on my list. The two biggest downers: the ridiculously high price (true of all new pickups these days) and the stupid design belt-driven oil pump (the belt requiring a labor-intensive replacement at 150K miles). Instead of all the blather about electronic locking vs. limited slip differentials (I have lots of experience with both on my 4WD vehicles), here is the SOLUTION: install a Detroit Locker in the rear--it stays locked all the time except for turning corners. It's always there when you need it and is bulletproof (I have one that has given zero issues in 13 years in a 4WD). Then, install a Detroit Truetrac differential in the front axle. Another bulletproof design. Neither the Detroit Locker nor Torsen are outrageously expensive, and they both are more effective than the factory offerings. Problem solved.

@Malc664

3 жыл бұрын

Good comment, auto lockers.

@DM-tf6mk

3 жыл бұрын

Well said and I agree the prices of these new trucks these days are out of control. Even with all the technology the prices are out of hand. In my opinion to try and get something affordable the options are almost to basic.

@uttamgala7186

3 жыл бұрын

Agreed and agreed. Here in Canada they’re going for 80 grand after taxes and fees. 80 grand for a half ton 🙈 I’m sorry that’s just nuts.

@foxbodyguyeightyeight3672

2 жыл бұрын

150000 miles is pretty good for a belt considering I've seen lots of regular gear drive pumps fail before then so 🤷 not a big deal to me

I've put 10k on my AT4 since September. It's a great blend of on road comfort and off road capability. The Diesel is quiet and very responsive....and gets good economy especially when filling up at Costco for $2.10 per gallon. Love it. Does great in snow and slush as well...but I put Michelin LTX's on. Love them as well. Had Duratracs on my old All Terrain and didn't care for the dry road performance.

Nice review of the AT4 Andre. Thanks for the video TFL.

Selective rear locker is ok for off roading if your willing to turn it off and on when making sharp turns so your not dragging your rear end but the automatic locking rear is better when your not expecting slipping in every day situations.

@NukePooch1

3 жыл бұрын

Agreed. Also better for most drivers who wouldn't know what a locking diff is and when to turn it on.

@samduran5180

3 жыл бұрын

@@NukePooch1 Ford just started offering e lockers in 2012 these Ford guys just started to learn what a locker is lol

@trailrunnah8886

3 жыл бұрын

I hate to say it, but I kind of like the setup Toyota uses on their vehicles with locking diffs. My 4Runner has a selectable locking rear diff, but it also has traction control (ATRAC). If I get into a situation where a rear wheel starts slipping, it will apply the brakes to that wheel and send power to the other. I tried it a few times, it actually is effective. If that fails, then it's easy to hit the button and turn on the rear Locker. The ATRAC also works on the front wheels, which is kind of like having a limited slip in the front. Or on the first generation Jeep Rubicon, I believe it's axles were limited slip, and then you could lock them up as well. Best of both worlds there.

@JAMESWUERTELE

3 жыл бұрын

@@trailrunnah8886 ATRAC is a mountain goat! I have been more than impressed with how good it works off road.

@trailrunnah8886

3 жыл бұрын

@@JAMESWUERTELE haven't had the opportunity to take mine anywhere that I really needed it, but hopefully this year I'll get to utilize it more!

Great video Andre. I bought an identical twin to that truck. Every option even the same color. I got 10k off sticker witness employee pricing and rebates. It’s super nice truck for the money. Love this turbo diesel I6 . Best driving diesel I have ever owned. Very impressed with it.

Love me some TFL snowy videos

I wonder if we're watching these snow videos for the purposes of, 1 - they're good content and informative and 2 - Andre choosing his next truck, lol.

Happy New Year Thanks for doing your program. It’s the best Michigan

Nice review Andre, very relaxed look at the very nice looking truck. You seem to do really good reviews by yourself with the bike men as cameramen. Good job on the camera Kase. Stay safe.

Super excited about this engine! Sad to see a hwy tire as the spare. I hope it's at least the same size tire. I hope GM comes out with a mid-to large offroad SUV (like the Bronco) and puts this engine in it!

Beautiful truck and great review! I'm amazed at all the camera views!

This gmc gets excellent traction in the cemeteries too. I’ve never gotten stuck driving over a fresh grave.

I love my 2021 AT4

Love your guys videos and watching them, you guys always pack in the info👍👌 Just as a suggestion for what the vehicles are capable of. You should start in 2 wheel drive traction control on off, then switch to 4 high traction control on off, then switch to 4 low track control on off, and diff lock if that's an option on and off. I know it would make the videos quite a bit longer but it would be very informational, and cool to see the capability of each vehicle in each mode 😉🙃🙂

Love the video Andre

I love how you guys keep testing new vehicles let it be any weather. Looking forward to see how well mach e performs in snow comparing with Tesla

I just bought this truck!

Love that diesel sound

Thank you so much for this. I had thought of this truck as a possibility. But now, not sure, Like to find a vehicle for hunting, fishing camping. I'm just not sure which one

Wow 😮 i love the GMC

I'm with you about a front locking axel and a selectable rear differential. I think we need to sue the manufacturers for false advertising saying they are 4 wheel drive and they are not. Yes I want a 10% form what ever Lawyer takes up this Class Action Suit. 😎

Happy New Years!!

Love you guys!!! Wish you could test a deleted titan xd 😆

Those Rancho never get old! Lol!

Handsome looking truck. Much better than the Silverado.

@Encourageable

3 жыл бұрын

TB looks better than AT4

@TheMeanmarine13

3 жыл бұрын

I think so too. I'm a ford guy so I don't keep up with GM products every year but I thought the new Silverado was uglier than sin. This GMC though is a very attractive looking vehicle. The RAM trucks look pretty good I think. The front of that Silverado though 🤢🤮.

@keith1776

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheMeanmarine13 all I have to say is my truck doesn’t need a 6 inch lift to fit 35’s like the GMC lol, I’m running a level kit and it’ll clear 35’s lol

Great truck

I have wrangler duratracs and they got the snowflake rating

Lets have that Landrover Defender on here already but be sure to take a tow motor for when it breaks down lol.

That same truck in 23’ is like 76k…. Kind of nuts when you think about it. Hopefully dealers bring back incentives soon

Did you try turning the know to off road see what the difference it makes. If not do a video on it thx

Regarding the video's comments around 9 min for putting bigger tires on-good luck going much bigger on the AT4-even with its 'factory 2 in lift'! I have a 2017 All Terrain, put 2.5 inch Fox front coil overs in and Fox rear shocks and upgraded the tires to 34 in Falken Wildpeaks, and get front rubbing when I crank down hard to the drivers side. I could probably take out the wheel well insert on that side, but I just ignore it-its not leaving marks on the insert or the tire. With the even more square wheel wells on the AT4, you'd probably have to do some cutting/trimming for bigger tires or get a bigger lift I guess-but I still think the shape of the wheel wells is problematic to size up to a bigger tire. Would love to upgrade to a diesel, but got a heck of a deal on mine as an end of the year factory close out. Would go with a diesel SLT though and put on the suspension and wheels/tires I want-think the cost would come out about the same as the AT4 w/ a upgrades better than spacers/Rancho shocks/decent tires on factory wheels.

Good thing it comes with all those cameras so you can see in real time where you can't go without lockers. 🙂👍

@RB-xv4si

2 жыл бұрын

😅

Since when was a half inch of snow considered a snowstorm in Colorado?

@willb3018

3 жыл бұрын

Or anywhere?

@yuhves2596

3 жыл бұрын

In southeast texas it is

@tmklunk

3 жыл бұрын

That’s what I thought

@lyman135

3 жыл бұрын

You don't have the full amount during the storm. Notice it is still snowing.

When I bought my AT4 I was convinced I wanted the 6.2. After adding a set of 34s, its noticeably slower which is to be expected. While it was in the tire shop I took my friends 3.0 Duramax for a spin. I quite like the power delivery of the diesel compared to the 6.2. In the next year or so, I’ll likely trade into the diesel. It’s power delivery is perfect for moving a heavy vehicle through traffic.

@204audi

3 жыл бұрын

The 6.2 will have lower maintenance costs, and doesn't have after treatment and def to cause you issues.

@SwopetheDope

3 жыл бұрын

I bought a diesel elevation..... I Don't think I can ever go back to a gasser...

@WinningDeadlyEncounters

3 жыл бұрын

Grass is always greener. Keep your truck. No emissions no fuel filters etc. just change gearing

Hey guys 38M live in Ca. and we don't get snow, focus!!!

The 1500 looks way better than the HDs but it still look like it has buckteeth. That said, I really like the diesel option.

Nice silver n black for me 👍

When’s tfl just gonna buy one of these?

Andre, will this be your replacement to the H2?

General question about American trucks and offroading. Has anyone damaged or sheared off the overly exposed rear shocks mounting? They hang awfully low and I fear it getting damaged if accidentally hitting a rock. Not sure how it impacts the function, but I would think it would be better if mounted closer to the wheel. Thoughts?

I am guessing this video was shot same time as Kase’s 2nd gen ram diesel off-road video posted on TFL classics . I am wondering which truck made it the furthest up the iron clads trail?

Get the ZR2 if you want a fully capable GM vehicle and don’t want to break the bank. But if you like full size and have the money this AT4 is pretty cool.

@loganholmberg2295

3 жыл бұрын

I got a 2014 ZR2 and I love it....except for GM disabling my truck fob apps on my phone this year and deciding its now part of onstar for 20 bucks a month. Assholes. As to the AT4 that's allot of money for a front lift, smaller chin spoiler and painting the tow hooks red instead of black. Yeah get the ZR2. You can remove the spoiler yourself if you want and the front lift is a simple enough upgrade.

I don't get the hate for the g80. You don't have to stop to engage it and if you adjust your driving habits to how it works its fine. Its never left me stranded in my 2014 and I've seen guys get stuck because they never engaged their locker and then had to stop in the middle of some pit to engage it.

@leonardrice1500

2 жыл бұрын

Love my g80

So trail boss or at4? Which truck is a better buy

Can this Diesel engine get tuning. If yes than from the factory or third party thanks for helping

It won’t go up by itself? If it has the hill start brake assist package it won’t , it brakes like it should

Wait, did I just suddenly hit that part of KZread that I can only like once.... dang it...........

You should air down the tire pressure ....

2:30 Although the Goodyear Duratrac tires are not winter tires, they do have the three-peak mountain snowflake symbol. According to TireRack.com that symbol means it is "severe snow service" rated. From TireRack.com: "A three-peak mountain snowflake (3PMSF) symbol branded on a tire's sidewall indicates the tire meets required performance criteria in snow testing to be considered severe snow service-rated. Originally used as a designation for winter tires, the 3PMSF symbol is now featured on some all-season and all-terrain tires with snow performance that meets the testing criteria."

@samduran5180

3 жыл бұрын

Yup TFL is against everything that's not Ford. They have alot of biased opinions.

@loganholmberg2295

3 жыл бұрын

I thought thats what they were referring to when they said no snowflake. That's strange. I got Coopers with the 3 peak rating and they're fantastic. Decent offroad and pretty good in the snow.

@johnbenson4744

3 жыл бұрын

Most do, but it seems some sizes aren't rated

@vernhardie9500

3 жыл бұрын

It is weird. Goodyear only lists one size of Duratrac that is not winter rated (three peak and not this size ) yet the duratracs on the gm trucks do not have that symbol on them. Same tire though......

@cordellroberson532

3 жыл бұрын

@@vernhardie9500 it's not the same, OEM get to choose compounds, gm chose longer life over the peak certification.

gm should make a limited edition at4 with a front solid axle

Funny how the DuraTracs are on the floor, but the spare isn't the same (shown by camera underneath tail). M & S still no flake on a high end 4x4 truck.

@mblake0420

3 жыл бұрын

Pretty sure mine has a flake on the tire, different size duratrac

@jeeeeebuscriest

3 жыл бұрын

The DuraTracs on my ZR2 have the three peak rating, and the spare is a matching DuraTrac too. Surprised they didn’t do the same on this more expensive truck.

Do a the same test with the Ford F-250 tremor

Does you not taking air out of the tires when you're going off-road for better offroad performance?

Why didnt you get the winter rated duratracs with the studs? please!

Wishing you and the team a Happy, Safe, Healthy New Year. And thank you for a testosterone infused, experiential, informed landing experience, and for providing part of my personal, routine landing choice experience. Thank you.

I'm just curious why did you cut the traction control off?.. I thought it was supposed to be helpful..

Andre does the heater work well? The price isn't good, $50k I would pay for that.

Wish it was with the 6.2 instead of the diesel...

Barely broke a sweat on that trail

Thank you but I will take the Chavey LT Traill Boss with the Duramax Diesel engine!

Hey guys, I have a GMC AT4 and will be visiting CO in mid Jan, I am looking for an easy to intermediate trail you would recommend I could go have some fun exploring. Thanks for any advice.

@badgerpa9

3 жыл бұрын

Many of the trails are closed in winter, you can end up with feet of snow in a day on the trail so to keep people from being trapped they close them.

What are you going to buy to replace Frank the Hummer, Andre? And will we see a video about it?😁

The look of this truck is really growing on me, I like it better than the Silverado. I just wish the GM would make a truck with radiused wheel wells. Tires are round, yet GM loves their square or trapezoidal shaped wheel wells. A rounded off wheel well would probably allow for a 35 on this truck, and there's no reason one shouldn't be able to run a tire that big on a truck this big.

My 2010 GMC AT has front locker. I believe , all 4 wheels turn in 4 wheel drive, but not in Auto. No crawl. I take of sync. In mud. Works much better

@polsok44

3 жыл бұрын

There was no front locker available from Gm

@arneservatius8686

3 жыл бұрын

polsok44 thanks arne

@boudroux1

3 жыл бұрын

The 4x transfer case has a clutch that engages the other front wheel. Technically not a locker but it works well when used in Auto mode driving in the rain and snow.

Hmmm Andre sounds like you want the 4wd set up from, dare I say it, the Defender. Now let see how much bashing this comment gets. BTW Happy New Year to you Andre and the whole TFL crew!

For the everyday person I don’t need all that tech. I like having my lt trail boss with not all the gadgets

Correction Andre. Check the sidewall because Wrangler DuraTrac tires are Mountain/Snowflake approved.

My durotracs have the snowflake rating

GMC LOVE BRASIL

Is the rear diff leaking? It looks like there’s diff lubricant on the exterior.

@The333Wanderer

3 жыл бұрын

Michael Hasenstab It's a General Motors vehicle. Need the question be asked?

@badgerpa9

3 жыл бұрын

There is no fluid on the rear diff, there are a couple ribs it looks like must be for pleasure.

What did we see in this video?

Pretty sure duratracs have the snow ❄

@lagoonrd4173

2 жыл бұрын

Some do not like some ko2 do not

Did I hear him correctly.? Duratracks no snowflake and mountain symbol? They are up here in Canada. Weird.

@cordellroberson532

3 жыл бұрын

GM requested a longer lasting compound, that why the factory tires dont.

@numbnutz9398

3 жыл бұрын

@@cordellroberson532 That makes sense, thanks for the info!

BFGoodrich mud & snow tires. Hot Hot Hot Michigan

@Malc664

3 жыл бұрын

Can't beat a BFG.

These guys need to get serious about testing snow capabilities. Maybe they should watch a couple Arctic Truck videos. 😂 Ford (or even just snow) fans should check out their modified F150 on 44s.

Do duratrac no longer have the snowflake? They used to have it

@loganholmberg2295

3 жыл бұрын

There are different models now I think. Just like the coopers I use.

@terrencejones9817

3 жыл бұрын

Funny situation with the Duratrac on the AT4 and Trailboss. They don't have the snow flake rating on the tire. But if I used my GM parts catalog and look up the tire PN, as soon as I plug that # into the tire manufacturer website, it says they are snowflake rated. My guess, Goodyear charges for the rating. GM didn't want to pay for it.

Duramax makes the best diesel engine in North America

@jonathanm1854

3 жыл бұрын

"duramax" isnt a company that makes anything.

Are sure they are not 3 peak rated?

@Hellenkeller777

3 жыл бұрын

Someone in the comments said they were.

Does the hat come with truck?!

Never mentioned the tires size?

@cnovak1994

3 жыл бұрын

275/65r18

@dalephillips8250

3 жыл бұрын

@@cnovak1994 Just 32 inch tires same as stock on my Tundra. Thanks.

The Silverado doesn’t come in the 3.0L Duramax. Only the AT4.

Anyone remember the old days when it took skill to navigate difficult terrain off road. You had to know the dimensions of your truck. Now you don’t even need a spotter. Next you will have LIDAR and you won’t even have to drive. The truck will just navigate the rocks for you.

my driveway is more of a challenge up by Craig,

15 different camera views! LMFAO Are we off-roading or staring at the screens?

@Malc664

3 жыл бұрын

Both lol.

Theres a reason my newst truck is 24yo

@philllsxga.7737

3 жыл бұрын

Amen!!

@Malc664

3 жыл бұрын

Just watchin for research hey.

@philllsxga.7737

3 жыл бұрын

@@Malc664 good for you!! You would think that after over 100 years of building vehicle's the issues would be figured out and they would be reliable.. While they got the old problems figured out over the years now there's new ones and the prices are doubled!!

You should have compared to other diesels

For more news, views, and baby Flintstone chews.

I love the new gm trucks but there way to much money and I'm very sure they will not last 500.000 miles with paying for them 3 times over none of the new stuff will it's a shame it's come to all this electronic crap on them it's just not going to work long term but great job showing us

@Hellenkeller777

3 жыл бұрын

That’s why I got a Chevy ZR2. Has front and rear lockers and you can get them in the high 30k range.

We are going to buy a Ford F-150 limited I am so excited

problem with these diesels offered by GM is they can only be purchased with high end models and it cannot be purchased with an 8ft bed. this makes zero sense. The trade contractor, owner operator are the customers that can take full advantage of these types of diesels, not high end trucks buyers which for the most part use these trucks as a commuter vehicle and for 5% of it's use pull a trailer on the odd weekend. Shame.

@cordellroberson532

3 жыл бұрын

GM was going to offer it in a reg cab, but accounting said it would be a $6K upcharge, due to new computers etc. that's why RC does not have 10 speed.

Gotta air down. Way to much air.

If you buy an “off-road” truck why would you care about the wheels and tires if you are going to change them anyway?

No shit it doesn't wanna go by itself... thats what the skinny pedal on the far right is for...

0:25 Тьі наехал грузовиком на все три камня в повороте, а кларксон в одном из старьіх вьіпусков top gear не смог наехать в мерседесе в повороте на 1 яблоко.

Youd think that if a truck as expensive as this would use something as LAME as a G80, youd think that at least they'd put one up front.

@badgerpa9

3 жыл бұрын

They don't expect it to be driven offroad all the time, most trucks stay on pavement almost all the time. Even these will be onroad more and if you are a serious offroader you will do a front and rear locker like a detroit.

@Silverback_GMT410

3 жыл бұрын

@@badgerpa9 I understand that but if they're trying to market this as an off roader from the factory, they should offer it with some more capabilities from the factory.

I just wish GMC would have done something better with their interior. Even the high dollar trucks look like el-cheapo work trucks. It’s awful. Otherwise I love my 06 and would stick to the brand on my next purchase. Considering Ford f 150/250.

My 20 yr old clapped out Mercury Topaz could have went up that bullshit.