OCD is Actually PTSD in Many Cases - OCD Treatment at Gateway Counseling Center

John Hawkins Jr. discusses the close relationship of OCD and PTSD.
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  • @BrownGeorge-pw2xo
    @BrownGeorge-pw2xo4 ай бұрын

    I was diagnosed with OCD since my teenage, spent my whole life fighting OCD. I suffered severe depression and mental disorder. Not until a friend recommended me to psilocybin mushrooms treatment. Psilocybin treatment saved my life honestly. 8 years totally clean. Never thought I would be saying this about mushrooms.

  • @Bastianbishops

    @Bastianbishops

    4 ай бұрын

    Can you help me with the reliable source 🙏. I'm 56 and have suffered for years with addiction, anxiety and severe ptsd, I got my panic attacks under control myself years ago and they have come back with a vengeance, I'm constantly trying to take full breaths but can't get the full satisfying breath out, it's absolutely crippling me, i live in Germany. I don't know much about these mushrooms. Really need a reliable source!! Can't wait to get them.

  • @SusanaGomez-mp8sk

    @SusanaGomez-mp8sk

    4 ай бұрын

    YES very sure of Dr.alishrooms. I have the same experience with anxiety, depression, PTSD and addiction and Mushrooms definitely made a huge huge difference to why am clean today.

  • @EthanEdward-wx7ut

    @EthanEdward-wx7ut

    4 ай бұрын

    How do I reach out to him? Is he on insta

  • @PriscillaLogan-by9ll

    @PriscillaLogan-by9ll

    4 ай бұрын

    I wish they were readily available in my place. Microdosing was my next plan of care for my husband. He is 59 & has so many mental health issues plus probable CTE & a TBI that left him in a coma 8 days. It's too late now I had to get a TPO as he's 6'6 300+ pound homicidal maniac. He's constantly talking about killing someone. He's violent. Anyone reading this Familiar w/ BPD know if it is common for an obsession with violence.

  • @JesseJason-qc7ug

    @JesseJason-qc7ug

    4 ай бұрын

    Does he ship? Can he deliver to me here in Poland 🇵🇱

  • @jonathankelly2655
    @jonathankelly265511 ай бұрын

    Obsession is a problem-solving strategy to avoid re-experiencing trauma.

  • @aravinthselvaraj7340

    @aravinthselvaraj7340

    4 ай бұрын

    So what's the solution

  • @phil4863

    @phil4863

    4 ай бұрын

    Makes sense because I keep on trying to find ways to do what I should've done to Stop what happened

  • @nylalar1002
    @nylalar10024 жыл бұрын

    I’ve been seriously trying to tell the help around me I believe my ocd is trauma related but no one listens and says I’m stuck with ocd forever now. This truly gave me some peace. Thank you.

  • @persevere6326

    @persevere6326

    3 жыл бұрын

    Lyn Lara There is no doubt in my mind that somewhere on your life journey ( as a child) you saw an image that was disturbing... it traumatized you because what you witnessed was not natural to your nature..... your anxiety ran off with the images and the last thing in the world you would do became your most fear. It’s anxiety...... and trauma,... not you.

  • @renakmans3521

    @renakmans3521

    3 жыл бұрын

    Scott Corey It’s so interesting because most therapists don’t recognize ocd as trauma /ptsd related but it needs to be in the forefront more. I just don’t know what trauma triggered my religious ocd. All I remember was being exceptionally scared of movies like the Exorcist. Now what to do with that ?? That’s the tough question to answer.

  • @persevere6326

    @persevere6326

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@renakmans3521 Religious based horror movies like the exorcist can absolutely cause religious fears (trauma)...... To a child there is no difference between real life and a movie. For example.... mine started after looking through the book Amitiville horror.... a real life story of a man possessed who murdered his family. This was not my fault as my brain was not developed to comprehend. My parents should have been more protective and aware of this material. Yes, they are to blame for exposing me to this at such an early age.

  • @andycodling2512

    @andycodling2512

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yep ...no one seems to understand or know how to help

  • @miqueorque

    @miqueorque

    2 жыл бұрын

    I’ve been thinking, knowing my OCD is from trauma, I know I’ll be healed from the OCD :)

  • @ElizabethGonzalez-jt7ns
    @ElizabethGonzalez-jt7ns3 жыл бұрын

    I agree! “Real Event OCD” is actually PTSD.

  • @floweryunicorn8888

    @floweryunicorn8888

    2 жыл бұрын

    actually ocd in general is reaction to trauma and sometimes self loathing. Many times the person with the trauma doesn't realize that a certain even in their life traumatized them.

  • @PauladaleMcLean

    @PauladaleMcLean

    11 ай бұрын

    I do not want to stop wearing a mask after Covid despite that I can feel pretty stigmatized by it. I have a close friend who got long Covid and she is still has to be on oxygen after 2 years! . I have been told this is Covid OCD - I am thinking people are crazy for not wanting to still wear masks! Is this what you mean by "Real event OCD?"

  • @ElizabethGonzalez-jt7ns

    @ElizabethGonzalez-jt7ns

    11 ай бұрын

    @@PauladaleMcLean … remove the muzzle…. And be free. The mask lowers your oxygen levels and can cause pneumonia. You’ll be ok.

  • @SierraAspenAutumn
    @SierraAspenAutumn9 ай бұрын

    Someone said OCD is trying to create a sense of stability in the caos. So this makes a lot of sense to me that PTSD would be connected.

  • @ryonjane
    @ryonjane3 жыл бұрын

    when I figured this out by myself my therapist was shocked lol

  • @smokingcrab2290
    @smokingcrab22905 ай бұрын

    Deep down I always knew this. There's a reason I was obsessed with my perceived problems and it all stemmed from trauma

  • @sadiemoreno3642
    @sadiemoreno36422 жыл бұрын

    I have always managed stress through OCD and realized that when I got stressed I did rituals because I felt out of control. When I wasn’t stressed, I had no ocd. I might have a couple thoughts that were managed. I now have ocd after an incredibly stressful life changes and watching a scary movie. It became my ocd content and obsession. I find it hard to believe sometimes that people won’t link ocd to trauma and rituals linked to stress management and feeling in control. The mystery is that I live years without ocd owning me until I’m triggered in my nervous system. When I do exposure therapy and breath work etc my ocd resolves into something completely manageable and I’ll go days or weeks with feeling just fine until I’m triggered again. I believe I was frightened in my early childhood and used the ocd as a means of my only control. The worse the stress the worse the ocd is.

  • @JennaayP77

    @JennaayP77

    9 ай бұрын

    100%. Me too. The worst my stress levels get, the more severe my OCD rituals are. Thank you for sharing btw.

  • @JUPITER11119

    @JUPITER11119

    9 ай бұрын

    Me three :)

  • @Dove-gx5gz

    @Dove-gx5gz

    Ай бұрын

    Exactly my experience 🩷

  • @MrSauceman09
    @MrSauceman093 жыл бұрын

    My existential OCD came on after a horrifyingly traumatic weed trip. This gives me hope that I won't be like this forever. Thank you.

  • @nathanielrossi9659

    @nathanielrossi9659

    3 жыл бұрын

    Weed trip?

  • @rGrizz

    @rGrizz

    Жыл бұрын

    @@nathanielrossi9659 It can happen, my friend gave me a 1000mg peanut butter jar and didn’t quite tell me to take it slow. 1-2 hours later I was fighting for me life, frozen, thoughts shame, family looking at me. It was horrible man. Ever since I’m scars to take edibles or smoke and it happened again after a 200mg edible

  • @MsMusicalBeans
    @MsMusicalBeans3 жыл бұрын

    This sounds similar to the OCD "core fear" theory. I'm not sure if I have CPTSD or OCD or both, but heck, learning about both has helped me reframe a lot of my struggles.

  • @MrSofuskroghlarsen

    @MrSofuskroghlarsen

    5 ай бұрын

    I relate very much, my friend! Hope you are doing well.

  • @gabrielsimbachosenboxing6734
    @gabrielsimbachosenboxing67343 жыл бұрын

    Wow this is exactly what I feel. Ever since I had traumatic experiences, I developed OCD. Having fears of these experiences, and becoming something I hate or fear. 💯

  • @lostandlooking
    @lostandlooking3 жыл бұрын

    I have this severely. I am 29 and have dealt with this for the last decade. I think I have noticed over this time is that there are 2-3 consecutive days each month where it reaches its peak. This is the reason I cannot work at a traditional job and why I have not made a single friend since I was maybe 18.

  • @sheldoncarter6609
    @sheldoncarter66099 ай бұрын

    I tried treatment for OCD, which was diagnosed at a young age. My psychiatrist didn't do anything involving treating OCD. They put me on a lot of medication for depression which was related to the OCD, and just tried to treat that. It was forgotten that I was there for OCD, and I had to remind him. No doctors or therapists have ever really tried to treat my OCD. All the information for treatment I have recieved if through online and videos like this. Thanks for sharing.

  • @Dove-gx5gz

    @Dove-gx5gz

    Ай бұрын

    Same experience for me. You are not alone.

  • @truthisstranger7726
    @truthisstranger77265 жыл бұрын

    The only other therapist I know of that talks about OCD being part of Complex PTSD was Pete Walker in his, for the lack of better word, revolutionary book on the subject. However, he mostly focuses on Narcissism, so I was glad to hear someone talk about OCD specifically.

  • @gatewaycounseling

    @gatewaycounseling

    5 жыл бұрын

    Pete Walker's book was actually the first time I heard the term Complex PTSD. Yes. It definitely was revolutionary. It is a very little known phenomenon that so much of what is diagnosed as OCD is actually PTSD. Almost every PTSD client I have worked with has some form of OCD that serves as an anxiety regulator.

  • @Damien-qk7in
    @Damien-qk7in Жыл бұрын

    I'm 2 minutes in and starting to tear up.. wow man you're hitting on my situation so accuratly

  • @miqueorque
    @miqueorque2 жыл бұрын

    I was sexually abused as a child. I developed disturbing sexual intrusive thoughts since then (all kinds). I developed self harm compulsions as a result to get rid of the thoughts… My OCD is directly associated with sexual abuse.

  • @Laura-vl6db

    @Laura-vl6db

    9 ай бұрын

    🫂 Me too. But I also do have OCD. When they occur at the same time, it can get confusing. Both are very distressing. My health related OCD was managed(though still flared). However, my PTSD flared when I experienced a betrayal from a good friend. And then I had classic PTSD symptoms. Most OCD diagnosis comes from a trauma event and I’d argue it manifests around the same thing, especially given most people with OCD have trauma.

  • @rebeccawilson1601
    @rebeccawilson16013 жыл бұрын

    I was diagnosed with PTSD after my first Deployment and recently was diagnosed with OCD. My therapist believes I have had OCD most of my life, because no one took me to a therapist when I was young. I am 49 years old and mental health had such a stigma when I was young my parents didn't focus on it. They where in denial and I just learned to function in the world.

  • @Piqued5
    @Piqued52 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for saying this bc I've been thinking this for a very long time. My OCD doesn't seem to match with others despite an official diagnosis. My intrusive thoughts and compulsions are so tied to my specific PTSD triggers

  • @nickyc1784
    @nickyc17844 жыл бұрын

    I was in 2 plane accidents when i was younger. Ever since i have had ocd. It has been ruining my life.

  • @GurenSuzuki
    @GurenSuzuki2 жыл бұрын

    For the first time in my life I am seeing results from therapy for OCD and extreme phobias, and it's all thanks to the approach you described in your video. My new therapist doesn't tackle OCD head on, but she's trying to help me resolve my past trauma. I don't have a diagnosis of ptsd at the moment, but it's all exactly how you said in your video. I see approaches that focus on head butting OCD instead of resolving the underlying issues as if trying to shut down the alarm system while the building still on fire. You have to put out the fire first, and then the alarm will be gone.

  • @TheRealDeal_Aniket
    @TheRealDeal_Aniket4 жыл бұрын

    I searched for OCD + PTSD..YOUR VIDEO CAME UP..THIS IS SO TRUE. I REALLY NEED HELP.

  • @tboyy1234
    @tboyy12344 жыл бұрын

    Spot on. I developed somatic OCD from a one off PTSD event.

  • @matthewkallmeyer2697

    @matthewkallmeyer2697

    9 ай бұрын

    Same

  • @Tam438
    @Tam4382 ай бұрын

    Understanding the impact of a religious upbringing coupled with attachment issues, have been key in understanding my struggles with ocd. .This is so important and needs to be talked about much more. Thank you for this🙏

  • @italianpride127
    @italianpride1272 жыл бұрын

    ptsd is 100% a catalyst for ocd im living proof and i can give you an absolute logical and descriptive reason as to how it is introduced to the subconcious through trama and how it progresses expodentialy over time

  • @Operation3Sixty
    @Operation3Sixty4 жыл бұрын

    Very interesting. I have had OCD all my life. But it got much much worse after i developed combat PTSD after my second deployment. I developed more symptoms and they're becoming more difficult to control.

  • @codcreed3220

    @codcreed3220

    4 жыл бұрын

    I have OCD from being constantly being beaten up which was something I didn't choose to do. But you chose to go to war and to risk your mental health and your life, God bless you.

  • @Clairerowe-intuitive

    @Clairerowe-intuitive

    9 ай бұрын

    Thank you for your service

  • @hellomeggy2119
    @hellomeggy2119 Жыл бұрын

    Recently I stated working with a trauma therapist. I mentioned to her that my top three diagnoses are OCD, PTSD and phobia. Up until now, I've been focused on reading the OCD and had various therapies. But I realized OCD is a mal-adopted coping skill triggered by PTSD. Because any obsessions I had that are unrelated, I was able to stop with ERP. But few things were very hard and I realized even if I was about to stop the compulsions, if I don't resolve my fear, trauma, phobia, then my compulsions will come back which is why even when I try to stop, the compulsions intensify later on. I need to learn to change my mindset which clearly is distorted and accept the "mistakes" I made while compulsing. My OCD is "protecting" me from my past but also perpetuating and created a phobia that I now have to keep doing the compulsions for to make sure my phobia doesn't happen. If my phobia did come true, my life will really be ruined and be stuck in PTSD forever. So OCD is protecting me but also hurting me. It's a vicious cycle. Thank you for this video. It's something I've been lining for since I realized about this. But it was so hard to find someone who does both trauma and ocd but this clarifies that i need to address trauma first. My therapist even said I need intense care and that is okay to do compulsion for now since it is what I need to function and in in a survival mode but once we really start working together then she'd address and help me learn better coping and be more confident that I wouldn't need to do it anymore.

  • @imapandaperson
    @imapandaperson10 ай бұрын

    I have CPTSD and OCD, and i fully think my CPTSD caused my OCD. They are intertwined --- my intrusive thoughts are an extension of the themes of my real trauma, and i do compulsions to cope with both trauma-related intrusive thoughts and real flashbacks. I have no doubt that growing up in constant fight or flight due to child abuse, plus the constant gaslighting, made my developing brain search for ways to keep me hypervigilant (aka flashbacks and intrusive thoughts) to keep me safe during the abuse. I know some people have ocd without trauma, or trauma without ocd, but both is the way my brain chose to cope with a situation that was far beyond my child brain's ability to handle. Wish more people talked about OCD that has been triggered by trauma

  • @renakmans3521
    @renakmans35213 жыл бұрын

    You are so correct! I’ve had many therapists and I’m the one who always tells them I feel like I have PTSD. Many think they are two different things. I feel that my ocd is 80% based on past “bad” experiences based on ocd! It’s a loop that won’t stop and just a thought of remembrance from the past often puts me back to square one. I’ve had zero success with ERP and therapy or meds. Your statements give me some hope I’m just wondering where to start? Thank you.

  • @Herovsevil11
    @Herovsevil112 жыл бұрын

    I feel like the universe guided me to this video. I will just say I really needed to see this right now. I know you probably won’t read this but thank you. I guess now to work on this for the rest of my life lol.

  • @arcadiansounds2850
    @arcadiansounds28504 жыл бұрын

    so what youre really saying is... OCD is just a symptom of trauma. When working with clients, did you discover a pattern in the type/kind of trauma, that once healed, made the ocd go away? what techniques did you do outside of exposure therapy.

  • @madmarc0663
    @madmarc06634 жыл бұрын

    This explains soo much in my experience because what you're presenting is exactly what I'm dealing with. I have OCD, but it was never THIS bad. Which lead me to look into Intrusive Thoughts, OCD, and now PTSD. Thank you for this video.

  • @man4145

    @man4145

    Жыл бұрын

    My symptoms got worse as I got older also.

  • @SunShine-xu5jb
    @SunShine-xu5jb3 жыл бұрын

    This is so true in my opinion. I have been thinking this for a long time but had not heard anyone say it until now! Im so glad you put it out there.

  • @LoudPaintings
    @LoudPaintings4 жыл бұрын

    You're right. I've seen very few people talking about the association with OCD and PTSD. I've been doing exposures which has helped tremendously, but it has just seemed like there is a missing component. Some will have OCD without PTSD, and vice versa, but I think it can also be coupled together. My sister and I both have OCD and grew up in a fairly traumatic situation, but we are very different people so it manifests quite differently. Thank you so much for this video.

  • @robd1437
    @robd14374 жыл бұрын

    Sharing this with my therapist. Thank you!

  • @hhsrrrr
    @hhsrrrr3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for sharing this insightful video. I feel this is very helpful for me presently.

  • @bbyy_j9837
    @bbyy_j98374 жыл бұрын

    Can I have a phone session with you you’re the only person I’ve sound in 22 years to sound like they might be able to help me

  • @iudawarness-coppertoxicity1206
    @iudawarness-coppertoxicity1206 Жыл бұрын

    I think you just saved my life.

  • @gj1695
    @gj1695 Жыл бұрын

    Incredibly helpful explanation. Thank you.

  • @persevere6326
    @persevere63264 жыл бұрын

    Oh..... thank you soooooo much for posting I’ve never heard this before Please keep this up forever

  • @gatewaycounseling

    @gatewaycounseling

    4 жыл бұрын

    Scott, you are very welcome! Thank you for taking the time to watch my video and give feedback. Feel free to also see our blog and submit any questions you may have through our website. GatewayCounseling.com

  • @jamesbromfield9070
    @jamesbromfield90702 жыл бұрын

    This is very enlightening

  • @sxfnlc
    @sxfnlc Жыл бұрын

    You are 100% spot on ❤

  • @jillianr.2505
    @jillianr.25052 жыл бұрын

    This is gold.

  • @BRACALONEBORDINTEAM
    @BRACALONEBORDINTEAM2 жыл бұрын

    This is great thank you so much. I was talking with my therapist about this, and it's true, I had phisical abuse, mental abuse when I was a child and this brings me to ocd. It's not to cure the anxiety related to intrusive thoughts but healing trauma is more effective on an abused mind and body.

  • @GypsyInThirteen
    @GypsyInThirteen4 ай бұрын

    This was a good one !

  • @humbertosolorzano9842
    @humbertosolorzano98429 ай бұрын

    makes totally sense since most of the times OCD is triggered by stressful situations.

  • @underthesignofthemoon
    @underthesignofthemoon2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for that insight. But how DO you actually treat PTSD? And if it's not an one-event occurrence, so something that lasted for years in childhood, isn't that CPTSD?

  • @MsInvinciblesummer
    @MsInvinciblesummer Жыл бұрын

    My daughter got contamination OCD after vomiting. I feel like this might be a response to the stress of vomiting which she’s had a phobia about for years.

  • @pearl6038
    @pearl603810 ай бұрын

    I just had a relationship break down due to his mental health issues and not disclosing. In hindsight now I see he had severe OCD, body dysmorphia and paranoia. Prior to that I had a strong suspicion he had primary attachment issues from his mum going back to work. From things he said I believe she had OCD even worse than him perhaps. Although she was a dentist, he had slightly protruding teeth and a small chin. Symtoms of a poor jaw development due to bottle and pacifier use. As his parents were in college when he was born, in high pressure medical fields and his mum only 18 years old I believe she neglected his emotional needs and he formed a poor attachment leading to lifelong problems with attachment (a disorganised attachment and CPTSD). He perceives small infractions against his OCD control issues as traumas, because OCD is very stressful for the sufferers. It does produce that kind of chemical effect in the brain. So it compounds to PTSD leading to the OCD symptoms. I hope those suffering know that thoughts don't define them and who they are at their core.

  • @atheerahusnaa9951
    @atheerahusnaa99513 ай бұрын

    Thats right, really helped me to identify myself

  • @renatasafonova9109
    @renatasafonova91094 жыл бұрын

    think i have OCD and PSTD. always begins with remembering how bad it was and can end in rituals. I am always looking for diseases I have, as if I have found diseases that I have and I can cure. absurd when I know I’m not sick, but I’m sick of all the mental illnesses I’m reading about with rememering what į was feeling then. i only once had a real depression from which msn was traumatized. my experience was awful. other times it was the fear of surviving the same thing again because for me it is a danger that my mental illness will deprive me of life. But somtning is wery interesting, my ocd and pstd push my to anaziating Me better, my fear, my compulsions, my obsesios. Its is and Fear and and somthing į want known better. Maybe Fear of somthing always bring you face a Fear? Į think so. Just need be self aware sometimes. Not scaning and just monitoring yourself o somthing all the Time. Į think if first Time, when į was sick someone say that į feel just anxiety, depersonalization iš nothing bad, its not be a the Time, its not shizofrenia o somthing just for you , its treatible, its bicouse is NORMAL, becouse į am a HUMAN with my personaly past, maybe į was feeling then less fearly, maybe i was dount feel so terible. Doctors should talk more about whay you sick o not just how to treat. Doctors should give more įnformation. And all įnformation in Internet must be more about its normal sometimes but not write about " is cant be cure". Yes, its maybe pstd its not first trouma, somthing is from early chilhood.when parents everyday talk with childrens not about feelings wich is normal for humans, o about you are not normal, you a mentaly sick, you never be like others kids, you cant change, jūst be normal. Need indentificate that. Its more esay now.

  • @milochamp1586
    @milochamp1586 Жыл бұрын

    You are the only person who made sense in this topic. Aftermath of trauma is the OCD . I see it like this, our nervous system became sensitive as a little child by seing lack of safety for the caretaker. Now after few years later. that sensitive kid gets to watch a horror movie or get to hear somewhat terrifying superstitious quotes from an idiotic adult or go through some less impactful incidents as a teenager. All these less impactful things can traumatize that sensitive kid later on. THe OCD occurs after these traumas.

  • @iLL.b
    @iLL.b2 жыл бұрын

    I always thought I had OCD. Since I can remember... Then a few years back I started doing more research, reading about it, and wondered if maybe i have PTSD. So I appreciate this video. I've had therapy before.. i mean.. if something happened to me to give me PTSD, the only thing I can think of is that I was the new kid in school, I was picked on cuz I was really fat, but i feel like when I bring all that up, sometimes ppl just say to get over it, lol, "you aren't in middle school anymore, quit being paranoid that ppl are going to criticize you. You're fine. " so I feel silly about it. I mean but how do you make that "paranoia" go away? And depression and anxiety? It's intense. Ppl always just say, "maybe try taking to someone like a therapist, " but.. it's like getting rejected by ppl for opening up when they say that. Ive had therapy before. I think I had OCD before that but can't remember any trauma beyond what I mentioned. I'll try to be social, but I still feel like I can't get over things, despite therapy, despite the medication ive taken years ago... I legit do NOT understand why getting an "AHA!," moment is supposed to be so instantly helpful, in therapy; or how that would even help socially, personally, etc.. You know? Like... "Aha! I was picked on and hurt physical at school, and so now I distance myself from people socially and have a fear of getting close to people because I'm afraid of getting hurt again... Aha!...ok, but I already knew that.....sooo....??"

  • @MikeNevill3
    @MikeNevill39 ай бұрын

    Thank you

  • @propman3523
    @propman35233 жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much. Curious as to what connections you see to Complex PTSD (C-PTSD) and sexual compulsions. Have you written and books on this? Do you have research references for practice applications?

  • @masonbalison196
    @masonbalison1962 жыл бұрын

    I was recently diagnosed with OCD but have been diagnosed with PTSD since I was 14. When I was 20-21 that’s when I noticed the symptoms of the OCD really begin to get bad. I think I’ve always had it but over the years it’s gotten to a point where it’s almost unmanageable because of the mental distress it causes me. When I explained the thoughts to my therapist she said it’s trauma related. We decided to do an OCD work book but after watching your video I think that you make a great point and I am going to talk to her about treating the PTSD first. I do need some basic OCD tools though because the obsessions and intrusive thoughts are extremely disturbing.

  • @ollie2111

    @ollie2111

    2 жыл бұрын

    How are things now? How are you feeling? I've pretty much been going through the same thing. Started little by little as a pre-teen after some life-upending stuff kicked it off (as well as started or increased several other mental struggles) and then after some bad experiences as an adult, now in my 20s it's escalated to an extreme that it's never been before. And even when I thought it was/is OCD I also felt sure it was either mixed with or increased by some kind of PTSD/CPTSD or both idk. I have never been told directly by a therapist what I have but they did mention I have been through "traumatic events" many times. They seem to only mention that I get anxious (and once mentioned dissociation, which I constantly feel but thought was normal), which yes anxiety, but it's also a much more intense form of anxiety. Which doesn't seem far off anyway, it made perfect sense when I learned that OCD and even PTSD are technically types of anxiety disorders. I'm trying to bring it up and my therapist sounds supportive but it's hard to know for sure if they are being supportive or dismissive, which is really stressing me out. Anyway I think it is possible they can be both hand-in-hand. I feel similar to you too, I want to be able to get help with the PTSD side of it and just have some basic tools for the OCD side before being able to fully do something like ERP, because of retraumatization and lack of boundaries I worry about myself being unable to handle that for now. What I think can be hard with this stuff is that sometimes it feels like it calls for two opposite things to heal. One needs a sense of stability, reassurance, certainty, and support that we have never gotten in our lives, and the other one gets fueled by things like reassurance and the need for certainty. I think it may take a lot of care to sort out which stems from which and what is the right approach for the different aspects. Like for some things I'd need support and reassurance, usually things I feel angry and upset about, whereas other things where I feel extreme terror, guilt, an excessive sense of persecution (like, specific and individual rather than situations part of systemic minority-identity discrimination stuff) and/or rumination for hours over various things that happened many years ago or non real-event things, I think I may need a bit of those ocd tools to learn to let go or lower the intensity. Then there is risk of retraumatization, so it can be difficult to walk that line. However, this is all my conjecture being forced to work it out on my own for the past several years, I'm becoming more aware of my patterns, but I dont know if my assessment is correct and while I have had bad therapists, they still have the proper education and an actual good one might be able to help as well as guide the path if I have gotten anything wrong in my self-reflection. Cause I sure as hell can't do it on my own, I can't take this and often get to the point of sui ideation, both in an intrusive way and sometimes in a tipping point it will go from intrusive and unwanted into wanted (wanting to end the pain) and potentially at risk of actually taking steps closer to doing it. Anyway I haven't finished the video yet but I keep thinking about this and how difficult it is to express the different kinds of help I feel like I need and shame for feeling like I have too many things "wrong" with me for it to be real, fear of being seen as fake/hypochondriac, imposter-syndrome type stuff, have gone too long not being listened to for real too. Thats why I was forced to figure it out on my own. Again, I am not foolish enough to think therapists are *all* incompetent/unhelpful. There are good ones out there. Well, not enough of those good ones, thats for sure. No one can truly heal 100% on their own, we are a social species after all.

  • @man4145

    @man4145

    Жыл бұрын

    @@ollie2111 hope you received help my friend. This man seems like he has the ability to help, hopefully you reached out

  • @ollie2111

    @ollie2111

    Жыл бұрын

    @@man4145 thank you! Not this person who made the vid but I *do* have a therapist now and they've seemed to be good. They are subtly not on board with the OCD idea but I obviously have trauma so maybe its just C-PTSD and PTSD after all, which when I asked about those they said "I fit all the symptoms for both". And I thought maybe that is coming out in weird ways that mimic OCD sometimes. And they basically said "let's focus on the trauma first cause that usually helps the other one lessen". Which in my case it has so like, yeah either its a mix of both or just trauma that comes out in that way sometimes. Anyway, hope you're doing well, uh, "Man" haha.

  • @man4145

    @man4145

    Жыл бұрын

    @@ollie2111 great to hear Ollie. I’m no professional in psych but from my research I’m gathering no matter the label at the root there is a dis-regulation of the nervous system, once it’s addressed and integrated, balance ensues. I really hope you find peace and your goals are fulfilled, take care friend.

  • @dreamznaspiratons7064
    @dreamznaspiratons70643 жыл бұрын

    god bless you

  • @andycodling2512
    @andycodling25122 жыл бұрын

    I have come to the same conclusion, I have both

  • @ollie2111

    @ollie2111

    2 жыл бұрын

    That is what I think too for myself, honestly. Cause all this "reframe your thinking" "think positively instead" or only talking it out don't seem to work for me at all, or the last one only temporarily and then maybe even feel worse later. But I noticed certain ocd tips *do* help me with some of it. Some of the less intense triggers at least. But it's also hard to stick with it or do it carefully & structured on my own and not like, ruminate myself into hell instead. (I do have a therapist, not sure how to explain my feelings or what to do since I don't feel like I have gotten any tools, just some reassurance which was nice but not enough to know what I am supposed to do long-term, nor get me feeling like my life is still worth trying enough to actually do anything anymore).

  • @KristinAlayna
    @KristinAlayna2 жыл бұрын

    I knew I wasn't crazy.

  • @Rainbowtaintedglasses
    @Rainbowtaintedglasses3 жыл бұрын

    Pretty sure this is what I'm going through with complex PTSD. I have like a ocd reaction but know it definitely comes from the cptsd. I just don't feel very valid as it's such a specific trigger and not a typical one you hear about when you read about cptsd and OCD.

  • @marijane9475
    @marijane94753 жыл бұрын

    I've been researching a lot to understand some paranoia that I have and you are the only person that has ever mentioned trauma and movies. My dad used to make me and my brother watch scary movies when we were about 5-6 years old. I have a lot of fears of irrational things like what you see in horror movies and I was wondering if you could expand on that at all. Im not sure if it makes sense, it definitely doesn't to me, but do you think scary movies could cause kids to have paranoia or ptsd like symptoms as adults?

  • @mailill
    @mailill11 ай бұрын

    I believe you are right in assuming there is a connection between childhood trauma/CPTSD and OCD. And also that( C)PTSD needs to be addressed in therapy alongside with - or before (if the symptoms are strong) - exposure therapy. I think both kinds of therapy are important, at least they were for me. However, I've seen research showing a connection between OCD and inflammation in parts of the brain, which is not so unexpected when you think about PANDAS (where OCD, anxiety, depression, unregulated feeling and tics are among the symptoms), and where underlying infection and autoimmune reaction seems to be the cause of PANDAS. So maybe combining the therapies with addressing possible infections or chronical inflammation would be a good idea? Like trying an anti-inflammatory protocol diet (AIP diet) for a while? For me, eating dairy and gluten - as well as too much carbs, and grains - seems to mess with my mental health and also worsen some auto-immuneconditions.

  • 4 ай бұрын

    Yes. I think for most people, we would never spend all the time and effort put into the actions labelled "OCD" if there wasn't a very good reason, or several very good reasons, from the point of view of the person we were at the time the initiating events took place. I'll share a bit about my experience, hoping it can be useful to others. For years, I was very uncomfortable unless I cleaned everything that was brought into the house, fearing new germs fresh off the plane from some jungle far away, would harm my children. It seemed unlikely but still possible, given all I was hearing about ebola, kuru, etc. Eventually I traced it to my father's bursts of anger, which were terrifying for the young child I was. I saw how, to protect myself, I got into the habit of watching everything I do in order to avoid giving him a reason to get angry at me. Trying to avoid making any kind of "mistake" had pushed me to take excessive precautions before doing anything, that were a waste of time and also an annoyance to others. Plus I felt anxious to succeed immediately at anything new I did, which made it difficult to try new activities. And I felt intense pressure to never be shown wrong on anything I said, which annoyed people around me when I would come up with unlikely reasons, to try to show I was actually right. And I was very judgmental, harshly criticizing everything and everyone, in a vain unconscious attempt to show that at least, I wasn't doing the "bad" things they were doing. I still have traces of these, but it's no longer limiting my life. For germs, it brought immense relief to come across information that convinced me I had worried for nothing, because it was never scientifically demonstrated that germs cause any illness, or that contagion exists.

  • @sammullett17
    @sammullett17 Жыл бұрын

    My thoughts are destroying me, really need the correct help!

  • @timcook4552
    @timcook4552 Жыл бұрын

    I hope he vlogs again.

  • @bri3449
    @bri34493 жыл бұрын

    Wish you guys were in North Carolina :(

  • @stevomagnam8814
    @stevomagnam88142 жыл бұрын

    You said severe OCD is PTSD, what about moderate OCD?

  • @adamjensen5832
    @adamjensen58329 ай бұрын

    So 6 months ago I lost my father to cancer. It happened really quickly. 18 months previous to that I lost my mother. During that space I also lost another few family members. I didn't have ocd. But whilst my mum was in and out of hospital often I developed a psychomotor form of blinking and breathing which u thought was ocd. That eventually dissspeared once my mother passed away. Almost like a release. Then when my dad passed away I was on pain meds for my neck. I blocked out how I was feeling. Now I'm off them, I've developed this weird counting thing. I can't call it ocd as I don't have a compulsion to count. There isn't any reason why I do it. There isn't a specific number I count to. It happens randomly. I've been told this is a coping technique in a way. Because I haven't dealt with the grieff either in any way. I didn't cry, I was angry for a while then I felt nothing but numbness. Does thus sound to you like ptsd?

  • @christineweber2203
    @christineweber22035 жыл бұрын

    Thank you yes I feel I have ptsd which is my ocd.

  • @gatewaycounseling

    @gatewaycounseling

    5 жыл бұрын

    If it is associated with PTSD, it will resolve once you have sufficiently treated the PTSD.

  • @mikebucur8461
    @mikebucur84613 жыл бұрын

    Interesting..

  • @stevomagnam8814
    @stevomagnam88142 жыл бұрын

    I have OCD but have parents who suffer from anxiety and grandparents who have too, could I have inherited it from them?

  • @ALTheFreeMan
    @ALTheFreeMan2 жыл бұрын

    Do you think Relationship-OCD can be a result of childhood trauma and/or PTSD???

  • @ollie2111

    @ollie2111

    2 жыл бұрын

    That would make sense, wouldn't it? I think so. (*disclaimer, I am just some random with an opinion, not a doctor :) )

  • @bbyy_j9837
    @bbyy_j98374 жыл бұрын

    I need your help. 😔

  • @SpicyBxtch7
    @SpicyBxtch79 ай бұрын

    Well I will be darned

  • @itsAuffy
    @itsAuffy3 жыл бұрын

    so the solution is basically exposure therapy?

  • @user-pi3gp8tc8t
    @user-pi3gp8tc8t2 ай бұрын

    i think that my ocd is far more older but i just to know about it a few months ago, I'm 22 (m) suffering from hocd, but i had sexual intrusive thoughts towards my family members when i was 13-14 years, also i always had intrusive thoughts of death but anyhow this doesn't ruined my life as hocd is ruining

  • @SecretlyACat
    @SecretlyACat Жыл бұрын

    My ex had rocd and now I have trauma over my ex admitting his guilt And now I think I have rocd, do I just have PTSD? I already did for other reasons before this. I have been tryna find someone to ask about this!?!

  • @stellaancimer8505
    @stellaancimer850511 ай бұрын

    It is all depend how much the brain is inflamed, in what kind of situation, circumstances person is..for me pills was necessary, that I can speak about trauma in therapy..and nutrition is necessary

  • @msnow3850
    @msnow38509 ай бұрын

    How do I discover the PTSD event?

  • @arcadiadragoons5467
    @arcadiadragoons5467 Жыл бұрын

    Been trying to reach out to you to see if you could work with me but you haven’t gotten back… are you still practicing?

  • @sheldoncarter6609
    @sheldoncarter66099 ай бұрын

    My brother and I went through trauma as children. I developed OCD and my brother developed addiction. Curious if addiction is also PTSD in a sense.

  • @shanesorensen7878

    @shanesorensen7878

    6 ай бұрын

    Yes drug addiction can be a coping mechanism.

  • @persevere6326
    @persevere63263 жыл бұрын

    Just stopping back after months of observation among sites and videos of individuals who have ocd... My conclusion: 90% of these individuals have trauma in childhood. Of these, 95% do not see the correlation. .

  • @adamjensen5832
    @adamjensen58329 ай бұрын

    Is there any way to get in contact with you?

  • @RbxbDidbdb
    @RbxbDidbdbАй бұрын

    What kind of therapist can treat trauma based ocd?

  • @erinm3567
    @erinm35673 жыл бұрын

    My mom gave birth to me then no more than 12 hours later she had to have open heart surgery. She was still in the hospital so at least that was the case but it interrupted our bonding and bc she needed to heal and recuperate there was a lot missed out on. She then ended up dying when I was 8.5.

  • @man4145

    @man4145

    Жыл бұрын

    I’m sorry for your loss

  • @carinaluxford241
    @carinaluxford2412 жыл бұрын

    As an OCD therapist with the condition of OCD myself (managed), I do believe that often OCD is linked with some form of trauma. I don't, however, believe that it's necessary to address the trauma in order to manage OCD. From my own perspective, I began learning how to manage my OCD symptoms successfully before focusing my attention on my background in more depth. If a person chooses to work from the root upwards, then this can be successful too. However, often clients with OCD experience such immense difficulties with intrusive thoughts that it's hard for them to focus on anything else. Exposure and Response Prevention therapy with the right professional experienced in working with OCD can make all the difference in enabling them to free themselves from the never-ending cycles of compulsive thinking and behaviour.

  • @lindaraesmutz4929

    @lindaraesmutz4929

    2 жыл бұрын

    I agree! I have severe ROCD and I’m constantly trying to “work out” in my mind where the trauma came from, why I have these issues, I’ve seen countless talk therapists for years, blah blah blah. When all is said and done it’s all OCD BS- OVERTHINKING/ ANALYZING/ RUMINATING. The only thing that has started working is dismissing the thoughts and moving forward.

  • @lindaraesmutz4929

    @lindaraesmutz4929

    2 жыл бұрын

    Side note though: There’s nothing wrong with talk therapy and coming to terms with your own trauma 🤍

  • @rpaafourever7908

    @rpaafourever7908

    Жыл бұрын

    I think there are newer approaches now of combining ERP with IFS therapy. Regardless, ERP only works on the 'symptoms' we want to treat the cause. IFS and even SE are both more useful when it comes to that.

  • @danielstamegna2391

    @danielstamegna2391

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@rpaafourever7908 Hi, what does IFS and SE stand for?

  • @shawnleong3605

    @shawnleong3605

    9 ай бұрын

    Maybe not addressing the trauma is the reason why you only have your ocd “managed”

  • @justjess3695
    @justjess36954 жыл бұрын

    Help me please lol

  • @gatewaycounseling

    @gatewaycounseling

    4 жыл бұрын

    Hi Jessica, feel free to reach out through our website GatewayCounseling.com

  • @joshbanker8743
    @joshbanker87439 ай бұрын

    This is invalid

  • @darkfantasybrun5381
    @darkfantasybrun53817 ай бұрын

    I can totally relate that ocd is part of ptsd. I have combine ptsd with ocd. In some ways my ocd is related to ptsd. I want to get my ptsd away when I have ocd. As an ocd person. I can relate to a lot of things that you say. To be the perfectionist, to repeat things in order to be perfect, having flashbacks,

  • @GodHelpMe369
    @GodHelpMe3694 ай бұрын

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