Best series I've seen on KZread about Obsidian Zettelkasten. I've spent months researching and watching videos about Zettelkasten, finally the only playlist that makes sense to me about the Zettelkasten workflow. Thank you so much for this Obsidian playlist! ❤️

This is one of the better Obsidian videos i have watched. Thank you for taking the time to make this. It is great for us to all learn from each other and to grow and become better people. Thanks again.

@EffectiveCo

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks so much Rick! There's more to come :D

Great to see your workflow! I learnt two new things: 1. Templates and 2. The value of Kindle highlight imports.

@EffectiveCo

3 жыл бұрын

Great to hear!

Finally! A real road map. Thank you!

@EffectiveCo

3 жыл бұрын

Glad this helps!!

I started to research about PKM, PARA, CODE, Obsidian, Raindrops and etc, and crafting a workflow to apply all these knowledges/apps isnt an easy task. Thanks for sharing your workflow and insights in a sober way. Wish you the best.

Great workflow. Quibble. If you are using Ahrens' terminology, Literature Notes *are* permanent notes. What I think you are trying to say, when you say, "permanent notes" is Main Notes or notes that land in your main slip box. Literature Notes are permanent notes that land in your bibliographical slip box. If by literature notes you mean freeform notes on your reading, that falls into the category of fleeting notes. Or as Ahrens called them Fleeting Literature Notes. Ahrens didn't use labels much though. These were all more descriptive. My one criticism of Ahrens' book is that you have to pay super close attention to catch what he really was saying and he assumes you caught the nuance. Most people don't seem to have.

@EffectiveCo

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the feedback -- to be honest I haven't read Ahrens' book. My use of literature/permanent notes is an understanding I've accumulated that makes sense to me. Thanks for helping clarify those definitions :D

@mikethelma

3 жыл бұрын

@@EffectiveCo If you are using Luman's terminology, and that is where the whole ZC rage came from, then your terminology is basically right. Using simpler terminology, what is called a literature note is actually usually called a bibliography card, or note. It contains information about the work (book) at the highest level. Just enough to tell you if it has what you are looking for and allow you to locate the book later. It gets slightly confusing after that. Some of the references listed on the literature note are turned into permanent notes which are supposed to be atomic notes. What is left somewhat unclear is the nomenclature and exact use of the more detailed notes that are fleshed out from the permanent notes and include all kinds of other observations made as those notes are "processed". My landing on this video was driven by me desire to clarify that. Still looking.

Thank you so much! This video finally clicked with me how to create permanent notes from my literature notes.

@EffectiveCo

3 жыл бұрын

I'm so glad this helped the idea click! Anything else you're trying to learn we can help with?

Great to see your workflow! I just got a kindle myself, and i gotta say it's going to help massively while reading with ADHD!

@EffectiveCo

3 жыл бұрын

I love the Kindle Paperwhite. It's lightyears better than the 2nd gen Kindle I had for nearly a decade...

@BryanJenks

3 жыл бұрын

@@EffectiveCo i sprung for the Oasis 😅️

Hey Justine. We have a similar workflow. In my case I use roam. Another thing I’ve done, following Cornell style note-taking, is to phrase a question to myself first. The question would be answerable by my permanent note. The questions are what I use for something like a spaced repetition tool. It would come up in the future and I’d have to recall my permanent note to answer.

@EffectiveCo

3 жыл бұрын

You could use Anki for spaced repetition -- there are a few plugins that create integrations for it :)

Very cool overview... as for the incubating note on education coming from stimulating environment, if you haven't already, be sure to look into Piaget's idea's on cognitive constructivism, Lev Vygotsky's theory of social constructivism and the related theories of education those spun off. Maria Montessori, Standford's education's Bing Nursery School, Seymour Papert and the heavy influence it had on Alan Kay, which directly led to the invention of the computer GUI and modern techniques of programing

@EffectiveCo

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for giving me a total awesome rabbit hole to dive down someday! Appreciate it!

Thanks for sharing, man! My workflow is very similar to yours. Greetings from Bogotá, Colombia.

@EffectiveCo

3 жыл бұрын

Very cool! Thanks for watching!

Thanks. Seeing how you organize gives me ideas for how I might organize what I do.

@EffectiveCo

3 жыл бұрын

Wonderful -- that was my hope!

Great video. I'm already trying to learn to use Obsidian following your great tutorial. Thank you

@EffectiveCo

3 жыл бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

excellent

8:25 process triage

Hi, very useful video! I have a question: Is there a reason you use [[productivity]] in the notes instead of [[020 Productivity]], or even why not use both? Or it's just for the sake of the linear sequence of the nodes in the graph? Or is there a moment when you decide to put your note in a "000" level note? Don't all of your permanent notes go straight to the MOC once they're crafted? I mean, why should this loop be avoided: Index -> *MoC* - literature -> permanent -> *MoC* ? For example, at 22:30-22:40 Thanks in advance!

@EffectiveCo

2 жыл бұрын

I used [[020 Productivity]] as an index, a jumping-off point about major topics relating to productivity. The [[productivity]] link is solely for items relating to the topic of productivity. I realize this probably doesn't make sense for most people, but the way I was using/thinking about it, dividing it made sense.

Thanks , man!

@EffectiveCo

3 жыл бұрын

No problem!

Valeu!

@EffectiveCo

Жыл бұрын

Thank you so much! Glad you found this valuable

Hi, thank you for the great video! I was wondering how you use the index and topic differently. So for example you have both [[020 Productivity]] and [[productivity]]. What exactly are in your [[020 Productivity]] page?

@EffectiveCo

2 жыл бұрын

The 020 page is my map of content for that area - it's a workspace where I work on the idea of productivity. The [[productivity]] note is a topical link simply used to tie related ideas together.

@kentyfilms8546

2 жыл бұрын

@@EffectiveCo I see. Thank you! Keep up the great work!

Thank you for posting this. I have been using Drafts for quick mobile capture for quite some time and am a very new Obsidian user as my PKM system. Do you have a "one click" solution for getting the notes form Drafts into Obsidian? I am synced using iCloud but cannot seem to get this to work over mobile.

@EffectiveCo

3 жыл бұрын

You should be able to use one of Obsidian's URL schemes. I don't use them so I'm not certain how they work on iOS. I'm sure someone could help you out on the forums though!

Is there a way to group all tasks / ToDos from all notes to visualize in one place from all notes i have?

@EffectiveCo

3 жыл бұрын

I believe there is now with a plugin. I'd recommend searching on forum.obsidian.md

Your link in the description 404s. 😞

@EffectiveCo

2 жыл бұрын

Oh darn! Sorry - I took this down recently because I wasn't using it anymore :(

Thanks man ! I see your tags are all lower case links... is that deliberated ? if so... why ? And also... do you drop all your fleeting notes (triage?) after a while ?

@EffectiveCo

3 жыл бұрын

I do lowercase tags intentionally, yes. It's easier to use in my opinion. Triaged stuff ends up in Obsidian, so instead of dropping it, it more gets developed into permanent notes.

It's not said in the video, but is this a Zettelkasten workflow ?

@EffectiveCo

3 жыл бұрын

Kind of -- I've taken ideas from Zettelkasten, Evergreen notes, and my own devised methods and mushed them together. It's basically something I've found that works for me.

Thank you for showing your workflow. I am sure I am not the only one who is constantly looking for a better, more efficient way to process information. I was wondering if you could comment on a few things? I have been using my kindle in that way for a while and while the iPad is a better typing experience using the kindle app, I have found typing and notetaking very awkward on the kindle itself unless the notes are just one or two words. I also try to use the apple pencil now that it converts it to text but that is awkward too. Second, where do you do your actual writing? Do you use Obsidian to write blog posts or other types of writing you might do? Thank you for your content and your time.

@EffectiveCo

3 жыл бұрын

It is a bit weird to take notes on the Kindle directly. You're right that iPad is a much better experience. I'm not taking more than a sentence or two of notes at a time though, so I've been able to manage. As far as writing other stuff, sometimes I do this in Obsidian, other times in Drafts, and other times directly in the app/site's composer. Just depends on how I'm feeling that day :P

@dr.braddavis1710

3 жыл бұрын

@@EffectiveCo Thank you - You mentioned sharing to Drafts by selecting text and using the share sheet. Is it a shortcut you created because i can get either the reference or the copied text to go into drafts but not both with manually doing a cut and paste.

how did you add your photo in raindrop I cant seem to do add my picture even though I connected already my gmail account thanks

@EffectiveCo

3 жыл бұрын

It might be based on Gravatar. I'm not sure off the top of my head though

How to create custom template in obsidian ?

@EffectiveCo

3 жыл бұрын

You can turn on the Templates plugin, designate a folder to house your templates, then start creating them!

What is the app you use for drafts? Is that an Android version?

@melvin_0bviously

3 жыл бұрын

It’s literally Drafts, by Agile Tortoise

@EffectiveCo

3 жыл бұрын

Yep @Jeffrey Melvin has it right!

Nice video! What theme are you using?

@EffectiveCo

3 жыл бұрын

Nord -- I love the calming hue of the blues of dark mode Nord

@hberto

3 жыл бұрын

@@EffectiveCo Nice! I moved to Clair de Lune

@EffectiveCo

3 жыл бұрын

Silly me - this was actually Gruvbox! I’ve since switched to Nord

@hberto

3 жыл бұрын

@@EffectiveCo one question, how you define when using pascal case or lowercase to page names?

@EffectiveCo

3 жыл бұрын

I don’t really have a system for that to be honest. Generally try to stick to title case for page titles of literature or evergreen notes. Otherwise, it’s a free for all right now :P

i'd love to use raindrop but their privacy policy is pretty scary. why must it be far and away the best bookmarking service argh

@EffectiveCo

3 жыл бұрын

If you're on Mac/iOS, you could use Reeder as an iCloud-only read it later/bookmark style service.

Triage, seriously?

@EffectiveCo

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, seriously :) I think of it like a parking lot. It's only for stuff I need to come back to at some point in the future. Most of the stuff I consume does not go through "triage" as I'm taking notes on it directly.

@peterklenner2563

3 жыл бұрын

@@EffectiveCo With the current pandemic ongoing call it anything but Triage. It really jolted me, every time it popped up. Call it stack, inbox, hold, storage, safe, anything but Triage!

@billpippel2667

3 жыл бұрын

@@peterklenner2563, "a rose by any other name is still a rose."

@LinkEX

3 жыл бұрын

@@peterklenner2563 It does sound rather dramatic. As it is commonly associated with life-or-death emergencies, despite its neutral word root in French. So I can see why you're not a fan. It kind of dilutes the severity behind it. But avoiding the term altogether out of fear that it might alienate some people through the mere mention of the word seems a bit much, too. In the end it's kind of fitting since it's specifically for notes he 'could not tend to' at the moment. Stack or inbox might also work, but it's more generic and he might have those terms already in use for something else in his workflow. In terms of making the concept stick, there is merit in choosing that term at least.

@peterklenner2563

3 жыл бұрын

@@LinkEX There are alternative terms which convey the exact same meaning in this context as triage does but without the cringe factor, for example, filter, sieve, or, priority queue.