Oboe vs. English Horn with RPO musicians
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Rochester Philharmonic musicians Erik Behr (principal oboe) and Anna Steltenpohl (oboe and English horn) give a mini-lesson on the similarities and differences between and oboe and English horn. The video concludes with a short duet!
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Wow, they made it an entire 48 seconds before telling us how hard it is to make reeds. World record!
@cyndie26
6 жыл бұрын
I guess that's why they're so wicked expensive! They also only come one at a time, so if you mess up ONCE, it's about $20 down the drain. Although I have just seen an ad by Légère, who makes my clarinet reed, selling a plastic oboe reed at $190.36, so it's worth about ten wooden reeds.
@RoseCadenza
6 жыл бұрын
What?! I would refuse to buy a Legere oboe reed if they cost that much. I don't even like Legere reed anyways.
@ok-ms3ke
5 жыл бұрын
Nice
@lil0of
Жыл бұрын
@@RoseCadenza legere has improved significantly in the last few years, but i play sax so i can't speak on the quality of the double reeds
@RoseCadenza
Жыл бұрын
@@lil0of I play saxophone as well. I bought a couple of their reeds a few years ago, and I didn't really like them. I've never really liked playing with plastic reeds that much.
Ah, the oboe. Played by tomatoes all over the world.
@Naimbora
5 жыл бұрын
Except for Albrect Mayer who developed a technique for breathing in and out simultenaously.
@jaydenmaerend8520
5 жыл бұрын
so true
@stilltheartist
5 жыл бұрын
@@Naimbora circular breathing
@spicynoodles3317
5 жыл бұрын
Excuse you, I classify as the sub-class of oboe player “stop sign”.
@18mg43ad
5 жыл бұрын
I was wondering what you meant and now I've come to the part of the video where I understand it
I love the oboe but the people playing it look like their heads are about to explode.
@noacastillo9608
6 жыл бұрын
Bass clarinet player?😉
@JackalSniperSnipez
5 жыл бұрын
Quenya Sindarin looks more like a contrabass clarinet
@goldsparklewrappingpaper504
4 жыл бұрын
Jackalsnipahz vonvonseven That's s bass clarinet
@AWEsome3GIRl3sam
4 жыл бұрын
and thats how it feels lmao
@darrena.marcus8534
4 жыл бұрын
Sugar that made me laugh
1:14 "The oboe is traditionally seen as the leader of the woodwind section." (English Horn player sad face)
@zi_pun
6 жыл бұрын
hahaha
@RoseCadenza
5 жыл бұрын
Really?! I honestly didn't know that. Is it because you can hear them really well? Or is it because they're the instrument that you tune to? Why is it the leader? The only oboe player in my band btw.
@jimena6194
5 жыл бұрын
Hannah the Musician they explained that t plays the tuning A so others hear it because the oboe is easily heard over say a flute.
@yannapooh2005
5 жыл бұрын
As a oboe player I feel like the oboe is a under rated instrument because people hardly know it exists.
@hankgillette
5 жыл бұрын
I assumed the rest of the orchestra tuned to the oboe because you can’t tune an oboe.
We used to always make fun of our oboe players face in high school, but he was a damn good player
@xcaluhbration
6 жыл бұрын
Joshuah 😂
@ishfoxergamer1415
5 жыл бұрын
Did you call him Hobo just like they do to me
@lizziea5480
4 жыл бұрын
@@ishfoxergamer1415 you sound so hurt 😂
@oliverbrown747
4 жыл бұрын
@@ishfoxergamer1415 wow I get that every time I take it out of my case at school
@ainsleyboss-harmon9839
4 жыл бұрын
@@ishfoxergamer1415 my mom and dad call the intrument itself a hobo
I see a lot of comments about how red the oboist's face turns red. I think it's just this oboist style. It doesn't take a lot of air blown into the instrument to make a sound. The tube the reeds are strapped to is about the diameter of a knitting needle. So it's more like you're holding your breath when you play it.
@ainsleyboss-harmon9839
4 жыл бұрын
Exactly
I didn't think anybody could get that red
@ypaexio4263
7 жыл бұрын
Thesquirrel ofdeath do you even know how much of your breath it takes? I know this cause I'm a oboe player.
@naturetubeUK
7 жыл бұрын
Ehomeyjr I have no idea my friend. I have never played an oboe in my life. By the expression on his face, it looks very hard. I wish you luck in your playing.
@jredpichay
7 жыл бұрын
Ehomeyjr when I play my oboe, my face gets so red and you can see my vanes popping out😫😫😫😫😫
@sciencewolf8320
7 жыл бұрын
Thesquirrel ofdeath It is relatively difficult but more than worth it, it's a beautiful instrument
@Metamario68
7 жыл бұрын
jredpichay - that's good because we know you're trying!
the oboe should give the tuning A without vibrato though 😂😂😂
@RoseCadenza
5 жыл бұрын
Yeah. That would screw everybody up. XD
Famous anecdocte: At a rehearsal, Sir Thomas Beecham once asked the oboist to give an "A" so the orchestra could tune up. This particular oboist had a very wide vibrato. Beecham looked around at the orchestra and said, "Take your pick."
Oboist had a bad reed and went full tomato
I saw the oboe guy go purple for a second I mean look at him he looks like the red hulk
I would have liked to know about difference in tone, range, typical roles they play in an orchestra. Showing that they have reeds and come apart isn't very interesting.
I can confess that for some inexplicable reason now I'm obsessed with these two instruments althought I still love saxophone since I was a child. I believe that the great classiness, sweetness and tenderness of oboe's sound is incomparable (because clarinet sounds good BUT) and English horn is the perfect complement for oboe so I love them too much together. I need to listen an English horn version of the Ennio Morricone's masterpiece "Gabriel's Oboe". Thanks for sharing and greetings from Spain!!! 🌸🌸🌸💐💐💐🌸🌸🌸
We both have to import cane from France where the good wine is lol
That's a great idea for bass trombone and tuba!
Lovely demonstration! Thank you - an excellent way to feature two beautiful instruments.
@connorross6921
5 жыл бұрын
And a tomato
I take apart and clean woodwind instruments at my job and its a good thing these instruments sounds so great because they are the biggest pain to work on xD
That duet is beautiful. Both players have such a beautiful sound, I strive to have just as clean and smooth a sound!
Best video yet, highlighting the differences between the Oboe and the English Horn. Thanks!
So glad I came upon this video! It was so enjoyable to listen to! Thank you!
I didn’t know someone could possibly get that red
Beautiful playing!
One of my favorite instruments
Beautiful duet at the end.
I play the oboe. I also think the english horn is AMAZING
I love playing the oboe I not that good like a professional but I always wanted to play the English horn
Enlightening and entertaining!
Gorgeous!
Vielen vielen Dank für dieses Video. Sehr gut gemacht. Grüße aus Buenos Aires.
Ah yes in France, where they have the good wine.
Oh lord sounds good both of em'
I’ve never heard of an English horn. I used to play violin but a wrist injury made it impossible to play now so I had to quit. I’ve been searching for my heart instrument for years now. I love woodwinds because they sound magical 😂
Thank you :) I played oboe for several years but the frustration of getting/making reeds was enough to make me give up :(
@hankgillette
5 жыл бұрын
I can imagine that making one is hard. How long did it take you to make one?
@abigailmeadows3371
2 жыл бұрын
@@hankgillette it takes years to be able to actually make a good one (as in good tone, right pitch) but you can usually have one make noise if you practice for about a month. Also it takes about 3-5 days to actually make a reed
@susanunger4700
10 ай бұрын
Ditto
The English Horn is basically an F Alto Oboe.
@Kyubiwan
3 жыл бұрын
Oboe in F
@RockStarOscarStern634
3 жыл бұрын
@@Kyubiwan Yeah it has an Alto Voice & is in the key of F.
The oboe player move so much when playing and turn as red as a like a tomato or something
Que belleza gracias 🤩
Dude this guy makes oboe look hard
1:25 tfw you play the tuning A with vibrato
thanks you the explanation
que bonito!!!!
Bassoonist: *breaks down door Bassoonist: "SUP FUCKERS"
2:03 - 2:15 Watch how he progressively gets redder
2:15 omg this man's face
The oboe is much more physically difficult to play than the EH, which makes playing the latter a lot more fun.
The name of the English horn actually comes from a mispronounciation in French. The French often pronounce Anglais like "anglé". There is an angle in the tube where the player blows. The instrument was not invented in England, but in Italy, like many classical instruments. Also, it is not technically a horn because it doesn't have a mouthpiece, but a wooden reed.
What piece are they playing and what are other tunes like this? I could listen to that for hours
Good Wine from France and Oboe reeds,... brilliant. when is practice next ?
Tell leader of the woodwind section to the stuck up, snobby flutes and clarinets who think we shouldn't even play a solo, play a song, or breath the same air as them in the same measure at my school.
@connorross6921
5 жыл бұрын
Are bass clarinets snobby cause in my band the trumpets are
His face got redder and redder
@IceOfPhoenix88
Жыл бұрын
omw i do not remember this video or comment at all yet ive been here before woah
English Horn , sounds awesome to me.
@LaZeriousWilliams-uf9ki
6 ай бұрын
I Love The English Horn Too
I like the sound of deeper instruments like the English Horn. Maybe that's just me because I play tenor sax, and I think that tenor sax sounds better than alto sax. English Horn seems to have a much more beautiful sound the oboe. I would love to play the English Horn after alto sax.
@hankgillette
5 жыл бұрын
You might really like the bassoon.
I wanna be the leader of my woodwind section. Only problem, my tuning A sounds like trash compared to yours haha. At my school, the first Flute leads the sectionals, when all the woodwinds are together.
Does anyone know the name of the duet that was played in the video??
Any tips to build endurance, I make a good sound and about halfway through a piece my embouchure collapses
I want to play the English Horn
If the EH is pitched a fifth lower than the oboe, would a composer have to notate the fingered notes a 5th higher to get the sounded not he/she wants? In a music program you have to write it the way you want it to sound. Would it have to be re-written for a concert score to compensate. Thanks.
Ahh nice to see there are other oboe geeks out there
I am trying to find this duet, it not the suite? Or the one called Father Son Duet?
I always wanted to know the difference bc they look almost the same to me
The oboe sounds like a Marigaux 901 as opposed to the now ubiquitous Loree heard in most American ensembles.
What’s the name of that duet that Alec Wilder compose?
Is Oboe D' Amore higher than English Horn? What key are they in?
Du très beau hautbois
Can you blues on one?
The duet was very pretty, but I think this video would have been more instructional if they had played excerpts separately so we could better hear the differences between the instruments.
I play a recorder, but i can't get much tunes out of it :P Doesn't matter. When i was young, i actually had a first go at the Piano at Shelby Church. It didn't sound very good though, cause i had no idea how to play it properly, XD. But, with KZreadrs showing people how to play the Piano, i totally know how to play it now. I just don't because i never played it again. Also, I'd rather play a big ol' pipe organ.
very nice video thank you. why does the english horn sound more sad though? I don't know what Im trying to say, but I think the engish horn sounds more serious...Like it grabs your attention like , "man this is serious," when a minor piece is played.
The English Horn is essentially an alto oboe and has, in fact, origins in France.
@hankgillette
5 жыл бұрын
I guess French Horn was already taken. There is the old expression that the English Horn is not a horn and not English. Why the different names? Clarinets and saxophones have various sizes, and they just call them a clarinet or saxophone with a modifier that tells what range they are in.
@turtlelam1
4 жыл бұрын
Both French Horn and English Horn actually have German origins
Wish I Could Play The English Horn
Rochester Philharmonic Orchestra Yeah the English Horn isn't really a Horn, it's an F Alto Oboe.
And, let's face it folks, the oboe pitch is what it is, no slides to pull out, no help for it.
we have to get cane from france where they have the good wine
Ah yes. Cane from France where they have the good wine. A delicacy in my land
I’ve never turned red while playing my oboe. He is using too much upper wind from his lungs instead of bottom lung wind.
@emperorofgaming8146
3 жыл бұрын
No offense, but the principal oboe of an accomplished orchestra probably knows how much wind to use.
@tamirlyn
3 жыл бұрын
@@emperorofgaming8146 Generally, for sure. But here it does seem he got way too excited :)
Hi
I prefer the name Alto Oboe because it's an Alto Role.
Which wilder piece are you playing?
Do oboists often suffer from haemorrhagic stroke?
So is the English horn for oboe players who can't cut it? Just wondering.
@emmaudo4185
6 жыл бұрын
JonFrumTheFirst it’s just a nice addition to a band, and if you have more than one oboe you might as well put them on English horn or bassoon it’ll make the band sound better than two out of tune oboes
@connorross6921
5 жыл бұрын
It’s for people who don’t like the appearance of a tomato
@ChucksterJax
5 жыл бұрын
Absolutely NOT! Not all symphonic music has an English horn part, So in a lot of symphony orchestras the second chair oboist doubles on English horn.
@hankgillette
5 жыл бұрын
@@ChucksterJax The English Horn would require a different musical score, or do they transpose?
They need to put the mic away farther
They made this piece up bc I can’t find it anywhere 😭😭😤😤
1:25 et 1:43 they re same I can't distinguish
An ill wind that no one blows good.
His head got really red playing it because you can only blow through the reed
2:30 bruh.
his face looks a little too red 0_0
Is it healthy to play on hoboe?
@hankgillette
5 жыл бұрын
No. Hobos will often strike you if you try to play on them.
Buddy said 🍅
I call it a "crook"
COR ANGLAIS
A bass oboe bruh that’s a thing what
Wuu ur face is red 🌚
Please can we use the proper name ? Cor Anglais.
They need some reverb.
mans not hot
@connorross6921
5 жыл бұрын
Mans a tomato