Oberstar Risks a Dramatic Departure Into the Gales

It’s one thing to encounter a storm with 8-10ft waves and 50mph winds on the open water. There it doesn’t matter so much if the ship is blown sideways a bit by the wind or if the ship rises and falls in large waves. You have almost endless room to compensate and correct things, and assuming nothing unexpected happens, you’re generally alright, even if the waves are coming close or even going over the railing. Next to shore is another story, and in a tight canal only a couple hundred feet wide and only a few spare inches between the hull and the bottom, there’s no room for error. Aside from the waves, currents are also a major factor. Throwing a large vessel against the natural water movement in a confined space where it can already change and move unpredictably can be a major challenge. Add in the fact that you’re sailing a nearly 70 year old vintage ship measuring 806ft long, 75ft wide and is extremely low in the water (30ft depth in a canal that’s also about 30ft deep) filled with 31,000 tons of iron ore and it becomes a whole different ball game.
And yet the crew of the Oberstar makes it look downright easy. Most ships, even the largest and most modern ones stay out of the canal during high winds and waves, usually they wait for calmer conditions to shoot the gap. The lakers, unlike many vessels, usually err on the side of caution following the Edmund Fitzgerald incident, so nobody was expecting them to leave. The most common topic of conversation on the piers, even among the diehard boat watchers was “this crew is crazy, very risky move!” (Thus the title) Had she rolled or dipped into the waves at all she would most likely have scraped the bottom of the canal. They knew what they were doing, her weight kept her stable and showed off the age-old drama of ship vs nature; far, far closer than what is usually seen. While in the canal the waves nearly broke over her railing near her mid section, and a mile or two offshore they were high enough to roll over her deck on a couple occasions (I’d stopped filming by that point unfortunately). Not an unusual occurrence for sailors, but for those on land it’s an incredibly rare sight that usually happens far out over the horizon.
Not certain why they didn’t wait, they would have had a smoother ride and probably would have arrived on the other side of the lake at about the same time due to slower speeds and detours around the worst of the storm, but they did make it safely to their destination in Ohio without much incident, and got to show off some of their skill in dramatic fashion! Safe sailing to the crew, and we all enjoyed the show!
10/13/23

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  • @jonathanellsworth21
    @jonathanellsworth215 ай бұрын

    Before commenting: Please read the description, as it fully explains the context of the situation and this video’s intention: to honor the sailors and this beautiful vessel. I realize up to this point this has been a subject of debate, this is mostly due to the fact that when I made the video I was anticipating maybe a hundred or so views (lol), mostly from people who know exactly what I meant, so a broader context seemed unnecessary. Now that I’ve had a bit more practice with a larger audience (and since it’s still an ongoing topic of conversation) I decided to revisit this video and clarify, which I hope helps! In the meantime thank you all for watching and your support, I’ve been absolutely blown away by everyone here. Yes even some of the criticism, as it’s helped me out in the long run. At the time of writing, this video has over 460,000 views, which for context is over 5 times the population of the city of Duluth, and larger than the population of any single city in the State of Minnesota, Minneapolis included. That is astonishing and I thank you all, never, EVER expected that, this was just a hobby video I threw together for a few family members and friends lol. I hope you enjoyed!

  • @sophiasbear69

    @sophiasbear69

    4 ай бұрын

    nice video ive lived in las vegas for 26 years now.born and raised in chicago,wisconsin,minnesotta i miss the lakes alot, looks like the vessel may have done this a few times in far worse conditions.... in the 50s 60s and pre fitz disaster,when competition was fierce and encouraged if only for bravado.

  • @thomasmint1761

    @thomasmint1761

    4 ай бұрын

    Yes, and I commend you further. The 6:50 duration is longer than the attention span that the Big 10 can gain with one of their football or basketball games

  • @jonathanellsworth21

    @jonathanellsworth21

    Ай бұрын

    @@thomasmint1761 thank you!

  • @jonathanellsworth21

    @jonathanellsworth21

    Ай бұрын

    @@sophiasbear69yeah she’s one of the old timers, same era as Fitzgerald

  • @judysmith271

    @judysmith271

    22 күн бұрын

    Great video! I love ships and watch tugs, barges and freighters, ferries every chance we get on the west coast. Where is this? Yes I read the description, and I see the word lake in the comments but it's still a puzzle. Who, what, when, where, why and how -- the 5 Ws and an H -- the essentials of any good story. Appreciate the video!

  • @tonycobb3306
    @tonycobb3306Ай бұрын

    I spent a season on that vessel back in 93-94 when she was the MV Charles M Beeghly. What memories!!

  • @sweynforkbeardtraindude
    @sweynforkbeardtraindude8 ай бұрын

    NOTHING like a classic laker! Especially when she is beating back Mother Nature! Brings back some great memories. Thanks.

  • @tenfodaddy4351
    @tenfodaddy43514 ай бұрын

    Amazing to use the anchor wells as a reference against the opposite sea wall and noticing the Oberstar doesn't ride up or down noticeably whatsoever! The ship fully laden is a beast!!!

  • @mtnshelby7059
    @mtnshelby70598 ай бұрын

    Wow, what a great video. These mighty ships are so captivating. Thank you.

  • @KristinaBenoit
    @KristinaBenoit3 ай бұрын

    Every time they go out, I hope to see them return safely.

  • @jonathanellsworth21

    @jonathanellsworth21

    3 ай бұрын

    Same!

  • @caveweta
    @caveweta8 ай бұрын

    The legend lives on from the Chippewa on down, of the big lake they call Gitche Gumee……. Watching this video had me humming that gloomy desolate song…..and remembering those poor sailors on the Edmund Fitzgerald

  • @evolveausevolveaus

    @evolveausevolveaus

    8 ай бұрын

    Same here

  • @hulkhoganstights6596

    @hulkhoganstights6596

    5 ай бұрын

    Weird

  • @Southwest_923WR

    @Southwest_923WR

    4 ай бұрын

    1 also, and I would venture to say over 2/3 viewes felt the same.

  • @kimjongun2946

    @kimjongun2946

    4 ай бұрын

    Wow what a freak

  • @andreasgroeller1083
    @andreasgroeller10838 ай бұрын

    Wow. A fantastic Video. Thank you so much Jonathan. ❤️👍👍😍

  • @sgtooby
    @sgtooby8 ай бұрын

    I was underage at 15 years old when a friend of my parents got me in the International Seafarers Union in Montreal, I spent a few seasons up and down the seaway on a few of these ships as a deck hand, taught me a lot, straight whiskey for one dangerous work another... Imagine those swells in November with all surfaces covered in ice! I don't notice anything different 50 years later, good paint job on this one,,, one of the deckhand jobs they would dangle us over the side to chip the rust and paint while under full steam, more fun than dangerous that one, breaking the blocks of ore from the conveyor belts while dangling in the hole was a little more. Oh to be 15 again!

  • @jonathanellsworth21

    @jonathanellsworth21

    8 ай бұрын

    Very cool! Always considered working on a laker but I have depressive episodes every now and then, probably wouldn’t be a great situation on a ship lol. Which vessel? Guessing one that’s not around anymore since the Canadian fleet is shorter lived due to more salt cargos.

  • @tmayer0009
    @tmayer00098 ай бұрын

    Such a beautiful ship, I love the forward pilot house classics! The workers are getting her prepared for a nasty trip. Love the video, so awesome to watch her going out into the storm!

  • @shawncosmos5431
    @shawncosmos54312 ай бұрын

    In my early life we use to get a ‘weekly reader’ at school. Like a kid newspaper type of thing with stories from around the country. I was in third grade when one came highlighting Lake Superior and all the Great Lakes. Been fascinated by them ever since….

  • @tomtalker2000
    @tomtalker20004 ай бұрын

    I think that is one of THE LONGEST ships i've ever seen. Just massive and it plowed through like it was butter.

  • @jonathanellsworth21

    @jonathanellsworth21

    4 ай бұрын

    She’s massive for sure! 806ft long, 75ft wide. That low deck definitely emphasizes that. She’s still over 200ft shorter than the largest ones we see here though!

  • @robertmorris8997
    @robertmorris89977 ай бұрын

    "Dang that water's cold." "Yeah, and it's deep too."

  • @susanbelida6981
    @susanbelida69818 ай бұрын

    ❤Nice job...be safe..thank you sir!!

  • @salmanskippy
    @salmanskippy4 ай бұрын

    She's mighty and graceful. Thanks for sharing.

  • @jonathanellsworth21

    @jonathanellsworth21

    4 ай бұрын

    No problem! Thanks for watching!

  • @debbiejarus1723
    @debbiejarus17238 ай бұрын

    Wonderful video! I so admire these boats and those that sale upon them.

  • @davidshaw5979
    @davidshaw59798 ай бұрын

    It is hard for me to comprehend from this side of the world that this is a Lake and not the open sea, very dramatic and it reminded me of the song by Gordon Lightfoot, the Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald and how ferocious inland water ways can be.

  • @jonathanellsworth21

    @jonathanellsworth21

    8 ай бұрын

    This canal was the place the Edmund Fitzgerald departed from on that voyage, every departure we sort of keep that in the backs of our mind! If I may ask where do you hail from?

  • @vonbuzz9009

    @vonbuzz9009

    8 ай бұрын

    Superior is as dangerious or worse than being at sea ,, the waves dont act like sea waves ,,, and the anniversary of the Edmond Fitsgerald is less than a month away,, when the winds of November come early,,,

  • @danw7760

    @danw7760

    8 ай бұрын

    It's often referred to as an inland sea.

  • @robdog1245

    @robdog1245

    8 ай бұрын

    Superior is an inland ocean, but I wouldn't go so far as to say its more dangerous than the North Pacific. The Gulf of Alaska is one of the roughest places on the planet aside from Cape Horn, there's waves that routinely reach 50 plus feet. The lakes aren't deep enough nor do they have enough fetch for 50 plus foot waves, 20-25 sure, but 50 plus no way. Plus saltwater is denser than fresh water, a gallon of salt water weighs approximately 8.5lbs, and in even a 25 foot wave, that's a huge amount of weight breaking over a deck. @@vonbuzz9009

  • @heinzkerger9594

    @heinzkerger9594

    3 ай бұрын

    I had exactly the same thoughts as you, also remembering the song of Gordon Lightfoot. Nature is crazy somehow. Heinz, 64, Germany

  • @nicksaur4330
    @nicksaur43308 ай бұрын

    Can anyone who feels the same articulate the romanticism around the old boats of the Great Lakes??

  • @scottsparks5214

    @scottsparks5214

    4 ай бұрын

    Nope. Im a boater that's lived on Lake Erie my whole life. And I'm still mesmerized every time I see one. I don't think the build new ones. They are all 60 to 70 years old

  • @TOTALCAMARO
    @TOTALCAMARO8 ай бұрын

    She’s strong her attitude is “Bring it on” you’re not going to stop me. I’ve been around too many years, I’m a veteran on these lakes. Her anchor openings are getting washed out lol Great video thank you for going down there and sharing this. Stay safe and warm 😊

  • @jonathanellsworth21

    @jonathanellsworth21

    8 ай бұрын

    Lol, I always think Oberstar has a bit of a determined or grouchy look when she’s facing right at you (love that btw) so can completely believe the ship is saying that 😂

  • @TOTALCAMARO

    @TOTALCAMARO

    8 ай бұрын

    @@jonathanellsworth21 I agree with you lol And I might be crazy but to me the anchor openings do look like eyes 👀 to me on all the ships. It gives them a personality. That’s just me lol

  • @hoodlum1107

    @hoodlum1107

    8 ай бұрын

    I'm curious as to why the anchor openings are so low down, on ocean going ships they are much higher.

  • @jonathanellsworth21

    @jonathanellsworth21

    8 ай бұрын

    @@hoodlum1107the whole ship is really, really low in the water here, there’s actually about 30 feet of hull below those openings. That’s why I was very surprised they left in these conditions! Plus she’s over 70 years old, designs have changed a lot over time.

  • @hoodlum1107

    @hoodlum1107

    8 ай бұрын

    @@jonathanellsworth21 ah, that explains it, thanks

  • @ellenhalpern1882
    @ellenhalpern18828 ай бұрын

    Great video, thanks

  • @scuffco1868
    @scuffco18688 ай бұрын

    With continuous world dinner dump in the world, this truly makes me proud to be in the USA 🇺🇸..Thanks to crew & John for being on board..Be cool & be safe

  • @mooseantler

    @mooseantler

    8 ай бұрын

    And remember to vote TRUMP in 2024!

  • @jonathanellsworth21

    @jonathanellsworth21

    8 ай бұрын

    @@mooseantler no politics here for either side if you could please! Wanting to keep the comments drama free lol

  • @loricharpentier1654
    @loricharpentier16546 ай бұрын

    These are brave sailors that sail Lake Superior!

  • @jonathanellsworth21

    @jonathanellsworth21

    5 ай бұрын

    Very brave!

  • @billkramer2994
    @billkramer29948 ай бұрын

    Grt video w only nature's sounds! The "Big Fella" pounding out to do big boys jobs in Big weather with nary a miniscule ship movement!

  • @Mjs_1990
    @Mjs_19905 ай бұрын

    That's so cool. Wish I had got to see this when I lived up north. This was really awesome, thanks for sharing

  • @jonathanellsworth21

    @jonathanellsworth21

    5 ай бұрын

    Glad you enjoyed! Can always come back and see them! (Can’t guarantee the storm though!)

  • @dmorgan28
    @dmorgan288 ай бұрын

    What power in those waters and winds. And the ship powering thru them. Awesome! Cool video 👍❤️

  • @centexan
    @centexan8 ай бұрын

    Wow. Those are some pretty hefty swells for the canal. Of course, that's a pretty hefty freighter!

  • @jonathanellsworth21

    @jonathanellsworth21

    8 ай бұрын

    When the piers are flooding you know it’s a good storm

  • @MrPerry61
    @MrPerry615 ай бұрын

    The Captain has faith in his ship and his crew.

  • @kimjongun2946

    @kimjongun2946

    4 ай бұрын

    What?

  • @bryantburns3664

    @bryantburns3664

    3 ай бұрын

    ​@kimjongun2946 Is u stupid? Is u dumb?

  • @CanadianGrenadian
    @CanadianGrenadian8 ай бұрын

    Awesome, thanks

  • @jonathanellsworth21
    @jonathanellsworth218 ай бұрын

    Another wind noise warning for this… just because there was almost nothing I could do about it lol. It was strong enough to literally knock the wind out of you at times (especially on the bridge), was actually a bit hard to breathe when facing directly into it! All things considered I’m very pleased that anything else can be heard at all lol.

  • @freedomforever6718

    @freedomforever6718

    8 ай бұрын

    The wind noise added to the actual drama of the day giving us a sense of the ship's crew earning their keep in that storm. Great video. Thanks.

  • @jonathanellsworth21

    @jonathanellsworth21

    8 ай бұрын

    @@freedomforever6718 lol I personally agree, without it you loose a lot of the sense of how it felt to be there and just how powerful it was. But a previous video from a different storm had many complaints even though “gale” was in the title so figured I’d give a more direct heads up lol

  • @daffyduck9901

    @daffyduck9901

    8 ай бұрын

    That's not a gale that's just a breezy day 😂 Buttercup

  • @jonathanellsworth21

    @jonathanellsworth21

    8 ай бұрын

    @@daffyduck9901 Gale Warnings have a very specific definition, from 39mph to 54mph. Wind at the time was 40-45mph continuous with gusts over 50. Very much a gale lol, about as solid in that range as you can get. Any stronger and it wouldn’t be a gale, it would be a severe storm warning. The term “Gale” is occasionally just used in culture to loosely cover the entire spectrum of storms, mostly because of pop culture and stories, the Edmund Fitzgerald song for example, it sounds more dramatic, but it has that very specific meaning in the real world.

  • @rezzer7918
    @rezzer79188 ай бұрын

    Gotta LOVE those Interlake Behemoths!

  • @guodzillakaiju5683
    @guodzillakaiju56838 ай бұрын

    "concluding some terms with a couple of steel firms when she left fully-loaded for Cleveland. And later that night when the ship's bell rang, could it be the north wind she'd been feelin'?"

  • @markweigel3301

    @markweigel3301

    8 ай бұрын

    😎🇺🇸🏴‍☠️🧜”And So Rang The Bell Of The Edmund Fitzgerald…”

  • @robdog1245

    @robdog1245

    8 ай бұрын

    With a load of iron ore, 26000 tons more than the Edmund Fitzgerald weighed empty, that big ship and crew was a bone to be chewed when the Gales of November came early.

  • @afridgetoofar1818

    @afridgetoofar1818

    Ай бұрын

    “Sundown you better take care”

  • @marcomcdowell8861
    @marcomcdowell88618 ай бұрын

    Always something interesting going on around The Great Lakes.

  • @scottbruns5142
    @scottbruns51428 ай бұрын

    12 days past the video, the crossing created no news. Watching it leave has me wondering what size of wave it may have encountered. I love that vintage of boat. They filled Great Lakes when I was young.

  • @jonathanellsworth21

    @jonathanellsworth21

    8 ай бұрын

    Not surprising that there was no news, they encounter this and worse waves all the time out on the open lake, the only unusual thing here was they shot the canal in it (which usually they avoid in waves) and they were close to shore enough for everyone to see it. The crews are most likely completely desensitized to it, and for most people as long as the ship doesn’t sink, once they’re out of sight they’re out of mind as well. But they did make it no problem, in fact they’re back here in port today, and the gale warnings are back in effect! Wonder if they’ll have a round 2?

  • @wmjlambert
    @wmjlambert22 күн бұрын

    My Father was a River Bridge operator, near the now gone Republic Steel in Buffalo. The Great Lakes are not to be trifled with, unforgiving and especially ferocious in Spring, and especially Fall. We had a very nice cabin cruiser at times in peril.

  • @johnlundgren5085
    @johnlundgren50858 ай бұрын

    And let me just say that I love being out in the Big waves on Lake Michigan and over the years I've seen some very big waves, back in the 80's I was racing on a Sailboat from Michigan City to Chicago and the waves were around 25 feet and higher and we got back to Chicago in less than 4 hours it was an Awesome ride?.

  • @birddogsforever9135
    @birddogsforever91358 ай бұрын

    Had a bird's eye view of this from my office window downtown - I was hoping someone captured from the piers! There were a couple large waves that washed over the deck once they were a mile or so out. Impressive to watch.

  • @jonathanellsworth21

    @jonathanellsworth21

    8 ай бұрын

    Darn, I missed that! That’s impressive to catch, usually this sort of thing is far out of sight lol

  • @ESHANABROOK
    @ESHANABROOK8 ай бұрын

    Heavily laden that ship is not having an issue with the chop.

  • @Buce-ku9vx
    @Buce-ku9vx5 ай бұрын

    Easy going against the waves. True skill bringing her in.

  • @ThatCreditGuy1
    @ThatCreditGuy18 ай бұрын

    Here’s to a safe voyage.

  • @SiTengoTiempo
    @SiTengoTiempo8 ай бұрын

    Risky indeed to navigate out into that water! Greetings from the other terminus of the Great Lakes in Kingston, Ontario. Cheers!

  • @jonathanellsworth21
    @jonathanellsworth218 ай бұрын

    Since it’s a talking point and some are very much misunderstanding the purpose of this video… the purpose is to show respect to the ship’s crew and their skill, not to imply danger. Fun and dramatic does not equal dangerous. That was never intended to be implied anywhere in this video, aside from one possible risk (canal depth, explanation in another comment) Nor am I saying anywhere that this is the worst storm we see here (Far from) or any hidden interpretations that border on absurd (lol). This isn’t that sort of video. I understand the reason behind this thinking, trust me I’ve watched and rolled my eyes at KZread hyperbole as well, and you sort of learn to expect it. What this is, is a fairly impressive (at least for me) display of nature and a historic ship and her crew going head to head and I very much enjoyed filming and seeing this! Nothing more nothing less. I hope everyone enjoys!

  • @johnsoper5675

    @johnsoper5675

    8 ай бұрын

    I was on an oil tanker about 45 years ago. We hit big storm on Superior. I loved watching it climb the waves and dive into the next one. The lake in this video was calm compared to what the storm that was in. A lake freighter is not built to handle a massive storm. I would hope and pray that all lakers would have the sense to seek shelter and wait out the storm.

  • @jonathanellsworth21

    @jonathanellsworth21

    8 ай бұрын

    @@johnsoper5675 they’re built for a different kind of storm, but yeah since the Fitzgerald incident they’ve been extremely cautious

  • @jonathanellsworth21

    @jonathanellsworth21

    8 ай бұрын

    @@johnsoper5675 I’m guessing on the east end, somewhere out towards the middle of the lake between Marquette and Whitefish Bay? That’s usually the area that gets it the worst, the area where the wind has the most room over the water to really get it moving, they call it the shipwreck shore.

  • @hajemitobek2845

    @hajemitobek2845

    7 ай бұрын

  • @tomaiger

    @tomaiger

    5 ай бұрын

    change the title of the vid and all ok...

  • @peterrollinson-lorimer
    @peterrollinson-lorimer8 ай бұрын

    She certainly is low in the water. Luckily the water level seems high as well.

  • @roconnor01
    @roconnor015 ай бұрын

    Fabulous images. As a Brit, I love that these classic vessels have such a long lifespan, due to the fact that they operate in fresh water.Cheers from the UK.🇬🇧

  • @jonathanellsworth21

    @jonathanellsworth21

    5 ай бұрын

    Long ways from the lakes! Glad you’re here :) yeah they can last a long time if treated right, always really cool to see!

  • @roconnor01

    @roconnor01

    5 ай бұрын

    I've recently retired, having spent my entire career working in the shipping industry in Liverpool.I have a passion for ships of all kinds. I guess I picked it up from my Grandfather and Father who both served in the navy and then the merchant service. Interesting point, my grandfather served on the Olympic,Titanic's sister ship !

  • @mortyrosenstein4211
    @mortyrosenstein42118 ай бұрын

    So odd seeing the bridge forward design from older vessels. Like looking back into a Time Machine. They stopped using these on longer vessels ages ago for a variety of reasons, one to stop the bridge from getting smashed by rogue wave or heavy seas. I guess not much chance for 60 foot rogue wave in Great Lakes. And the seas are different too. Much shorter period and shallower troughs. I have spent plenty of time in 5-10 meter swells in the pacific, it’s routine. Long period swell makes it easy to handle. I’m betting 5-10 meter freshwater chop is far more abusive than 5-10 meter ocean swell. At least they don’t have to deal with corrosion like ocean going vessels do. Must be nice to be deck on a freshwater boat.

  • @rono108
    @rono1088 ай бұрын

    Great video. Thanks for posting. Hi from Canada.

  • @jonathanellsworth21

    @jonathanellsworth21

    8 ай бұрын

    Thank you!

  • @mikepech6822
    @mikepech68228 ай бұрын

    No problem for Oberstar. Will get into the open water and hammer the throttle and get onto plane and just skip across the tops of those waves.

  • @jeffjohnsisland5551

    @jeffjohnsisland5551

    8 ай бұрын

    On a plane?

  • @carlerickson74
    @carlerickson748 ай бұрын

    That guy in the foreground is trusting that dumb little tripod waaay too much! Lol one gust and that iPhone is in Davy Jones locker quick as a flash! Lol

  • @jonathanellsworth21

    @jonathanellsworth21

    8 ай бұрын

    Lol you probably don’t want to see the people who lean over the rail and extend their phone out at full reach to get a clear picture over the water… right before the horn goes off…

  • @ronaldvanbeekveld8398
    @ronaldvanbeekveld83988 ай бұрын

    Nice day for a boat ride 😎

  • @jonathanellsworth21

    @jonathanellsworth21

    8 ай бұрын

    As long as it’s big enough 😂 absolutely! Sounds fun actually

  • @robertmawby3021
    @robertmawby30215 ай бұрын

    Always remember, the sea is only there to be flown over!

  • @jonathanellsworth21

    @jonathanellsworth21

    5 ай бұрын

    Lol 😂 Well since this isn’t a sea, then we should have no trouble 😂

  • @robertmawby3021

    @robertmawby3021

    5 ай бұрын

    @@jonathanellsworth21 It’s wet, deep and rough, so that’s close enough for me.!

  • @sittinandthinkin
    @sittinandthinkin8 ай бұрын

    She's riding low will full holds. Going out like that is easier than coming in riding high empty.

  • @alanchandler254
    @alanchandler2542 ай бұрын

    Didn't realise that this was on a "lake" gets pretty rough and that is a large freighter, good luck and safe journeys to everyone that works on them.

  • @johnsoper5675
    @johnsoper56758 ай бұрын

    It's not the crew's decision to head into the gale force winds. It's the captain and probably under the orders of the company.

  • @jonathanellsworth21

    @jonathanellsworth21

    8 ай бұрын

    Most likely the Captain’s. James R Barker, owned by the same company, was also supposed to come through that day and load immediately after Oberstar but they didn’t. Granted she’s a much taller ship and the thousand footers notoriously hate the turn into and out of the harbor through the bridge.

  • @runninggirl2765
    @runninggirl27658 ай бұрын

    I would be terrified to be on a ship with weather like this-even though I am truly fascinated by it. Takes a special person to live the life of a Great Lakes Sailor.

  • @canlib

    @canlib

    8 ай бұрын

    Don't be terrified

  • @runninggirl2765

    @runninggirl2765

    8 ай бұрын

    Thanks1 Your comment made me smile! Have a great day. @@canlib

  • @gowdsake7103

    @gowdsake7103

    5 ай бұрын

    It's a little bit windy sheesh you must be a bot

  • @anaa2054
    @anaa20548 ай бұрын

    Great departure

  • @richardhunt304
    @richardhunt3048 ай бұрын

    Great video,I'm sure they all know what they are doing !

  • @jonathanellsworth21

    @jonathanellsworth21

    8 ай бұрын

    Absolutely, the video isn’t to doubt them, it’s to show them off!

  • @topgeardel
    @topgeardel8 ай бұрын

    Great video. You really captured those intimidating waves. I wouldn't feel safe on the pier or the ship the way they looked. But, as they say, "No guts, no glory"

  • @gowdsake7103

    @gowdsake7103

    5 ай бұрын

    Intimidating? Really

  • @justinjwolf
    @justinjwolf8 ай бұрын

    I like that you can see the flexing of the hull.

  • @jonathanellsworth21

    @jonathanellsworth21

    8 ай бұрын

    Not something often seen within sight of shore that’s for sure!

  • @wendyphillips5002
    @wendyphillips50028 ай бұрын

    Great video of waves off lake superior. You don''t see waves off the lake like that all the time. Thanks for showing us these images of the fall in Duluth area. I grew up near lake Michigan. Now living on and near the Pacific ocean coast line these waves and swell are small compared to the pacific. I take my kayak out into waves and swell like many times in the Pacific. The kayak just rides up and down the big swell. The waves just wash over the deck.

  • @jonathanellsworth21

    @jonathanellsworth21

    8 ай бұрын

    Ocean waves are bigger for sure! They move differently, more rolling from what I understand, the waves on the lakes are more steep, so they can apply more force with a smaller swell. Or so I’m told, obviously haven’t tested it personally. Although I have been on a cruise ship in a tropical storm, possibly a Cat. 1 Hurricane by the time we were getting out of it, in the Atlantic! Absolutely loved that surprisingly, would love to do it again lol. (I’m nuts)

  • @jamesgoens3531

    @jamesgoens3531

    8 ай бұрын

    @@jonathanellsworth21 just came across your video. That’s one long ship and I’m sure you can feel it flexing in heavy seas. I guess I’m nuts too. Heading back to Seattle from Alaska, our cruise ship hit right at hurricane force winds and 7 meter seas. I was impressed with the stabilizers and how they controlled the roll, not so much the pitch though. Got some neat video of it too. This was a much better ride than what I experienced as a deckhand on supply boats in the Gulf while in college way back when. 😂

  • @jonathanellsworth21

    @jonathanellsworth21

    8 ай бұрын

    @@jamesgoens3531glad I’m not the only one! Love seeing ships pound through waves, big or small, never ceases to impress

  • @bertradmacher2623
    @bertradmacher26238 ай бұрын

    I would like to see how much that hull flexes will under way

  • @lrq7927
    @lrq79278 ай бұрын

    Love the lakes and the Lakers!

  • @markweigel3301

    @markweigel3301

    8 ай бұрын

    😎🇺🇸🏴‍☠️🧜🥷You Keep The Great Lakes, I’ll Take The Ocean Instead !!!

  • @electrictractiontrainsandt3063
    @electrictractiontrainsandt3063Ай бұрын

    Excellent!👍

  • @dougall1687
    @dougall16878 ай бұрын

    Yeh, once out of the canal she immediately headed east into the lee of the Wisconsin shore rather than taking the direct route. Given how low in the water she was, a good decision!

  • @AVOWIRENEWS
    @AVOWIRENEWS4 ай бұрын

    Wow, "Oberstar Risks a Dramatic Departure Into the Gales" sounds like an intense and exciting title! It brings to mind a thrilling adventure, perhaps at sea, where braving the elements is both challenging and exhilarating. The courage and determination needed to face such powerful gales are truly admirable. It's amazing to think about the incredible stories and experiences that come from such daring ventures. Stay safe and keep embracing the adventure! 🌊💨🚢✨

  • @T.T.T.H
    @T.T.T.H5 ай бұрын

    Great footage, and that vessel is huge!

  • @jonathanellsworth21

    @jonathanellsworth21

    5 ай бұрын

    Thank you! 806ft!

  • @oldrustycars
    @oldrustycars8 ай бұрын

    That windy, and a tripod on top of the wall? I wonder how many cameras and phones are on the bottom of the canal?

  • @bennetts-revenge_2

    @bennetts-revenge_2

    8 ай бұрын

    I was wondering about myself. Kinda chancey doing that lol

  • @jonathanellsworth21

    @jonathanellsworth21

    8 ай бұрын

    A lot of phones lost here lol. Most from people sticking their phones over the side to get a clear picture of the ship and then the horn goes off and they jump. Seen it many times, I’ll warn people as often as I can.

  • @jimmcintosh9045

    @jimmcintosh9045

    8 ай бұрын

    The waves weren't far off the top if the wall either!

  • @CoakleyPatrick
    @CoakleyPatrick4 ай бұрын

    Nice one...Thank you..☘️

  • @jonathanellsworth21

    @jonathanellsworth21

    4 ай бұрын

    Thank you!

  • @michaelnotigan7796
    @michaelnotigan77968 ай бұрын

    There's alot of drama going on with the great ship meeting those storm swells. You captured the conditions and what it must have felt like being out there filming this; perfectly!

  • @jonathanellsworth21

    @jonathanellsworth21

    8 ай бұрын

    Thank you!

  • @daffyduck9901

    @daffyduck9901

    8 ай бұрын

    Those weren't big swells by stretch of the imagination

  • @michaelnotigan7796

    @michaelnotigan7796

    8 ай бұрын

    They're a good indication of what's going on further out on the lake, Captain Nemo.@@daffyduck9901

  • @daffyduck9901

    @daffyduck9901

    8 ай бұрын

    @@jonathanellsworth21 it's a day off

  • @1glopz
    @1glopz8 ай бұрын

    Spookey? ship reminds me of The Edmond Fitzgerald rip

  • @jonathanellsworth21

    @jonathanellsworth21

    8 ай бұрын

    As it should! Basically the the same ship, just built a couple years earlier with a lot of modifications over the years. All said, this design was and is incredibly successful and safe, of the hundreds of ships that were built for the lakes since the 1930s only one has sunk on the lakes, and you definitely know the story there.

  • @jonathanellsworth21
    @jonathanellsworth218 ай бұрын

    Ships rarely come and go through the canal in high waves, so it was incredibly cool to see one face off with nature at such close range. Plus the waves themselves were fun to watch. Yes these ships often face far worse conditions, however usually this sort of thing happens far out of sight on open waters, not 50 feet from your face with the waves coming at you in person, so this was extremely fun to see, especially with a classic, 1950s vintage ship showing off a little of what she’s made of. The only risk I was concerned about is the canal is dredged to 30ft deep. As you can see by the hull markings on the ship, her bottom is at that same depth. Any rolling could have potentially lead to her scraping the bottom (which is partly why ships rarely use the canal in waves) but her crew is very good and she sailed out straight and steady! She’s also very low in the water so waves started rolling over her after reaching open water, so I hear, so they had a rough trip! Always respect the lakes, even a small taste of it is very impressive.

  • @robertsanders6463
    @robertsanders64635 ай бұрын

    Great!

  • @pizzapapa40
    @pizzapapa407 ай бұрын

    Very cool 😎and probably very cold !

  • @jonathanellsworth21

    @jonathanellsworth21

    7 ай бұрын

    Wasn’t terrible that day, 40s or 50s I think. I remember having more trouble walking straight than being cold for once 😂 Water is extremely cold though!

  • @magnuswalker7957
    @magnuswalker79578 ай бұрын

    I'm sure that this beautiful ship has experienced worse than this little swell

  • @jonathanellsworth21

    @jonathanellsworth21

    8 ай бұрын

    Oh yes definitely! Was more worried they’d hit bottom. Fully loaded like this they have 30 feet of hull under the water, the canal depth is 30ft. If the waves rocked them at all they could’ve hit.

  • @mack8488

    @mack8488

    8 ай бұрын

    @@jonathanellsworth21 if its both 30 feet they are scraping the bottom already ( seems unlikely)

  • @jonathanellsworth21

    @jonathanellsworth21

    8 ай бұрын

    @@mack8488 I invite you to do some research then :)

  • @mack8488

    @mack8488

    8 ай бұрын

    @@jonathanellsworth21 30 minus 30 seems to be zero?

  • @jonathanellsworth21

    @jonathanellsworth21

    8 ай бұрын

    @@mack8488 pretty darn close, I think you’d be surprised once you dig into this how often ships fit through spaces that are mere inches larger then themselves

  • @Medionxtr
    @Medionxtr8 ай бұрын

    A ship that old still in use....

  • @karaDee2363
    @karaDee23638 ай бұрын

    The ship is not moving up and down at all despite the large waves, which tells me that's one very heavy ship

  • @jonathanellsworth21

    @jonathanellsworth21

    8 ай бұрын

    According to the information I can find, the ship weighs roughly 16,200 tons, with carrying capacity of 31,000 tons of cargo. Assuming she’s carrying a full load here (which it certainly looks like) that puts her at a grand total of 47,200 tons, or 94,400,000 lbs. (can add metric conversions if anyone wants)

  • @_PJW_
    @_PJW_24 күн бұрын

    Very nice! Looks like typical Dutch weather.

  • @jonathanellsworth21

    @jonathanellsworth21

    24 күн бұрын

    Lol depends on the day I suppose 😜

  • @_PJW_

    @_PJW_

    23 күн бұрын

    @@jonathanellsworth21 Tru dat. Every day ending on 'day'. 🤣

  • @dmschell
    @dmschell8 ай бұрын

    Was there in Duluth about 10 years ago and ate with Karen Ellsworth and three. They were very sweet to me.

  • @jonathanellsworth21

    @jonathanellsworth21

    8 ай бұрын

    110 years ago eh? 😁 (fixed lol) And that’s very cool! Nice to know there’s more Ellsworths in town!

  • @livenhfree
    @livenhfree8 ай бұрын

    Crazy. Impressive. But also brings to mind the Edmund Fitzgerald (may the 29 rest in peace).

  • @dontmissthelittlethings
    @dontmissthelittlethings2 ай бұрын

    Well experienced crew.

  • @novadoug
    @novadoug8 ай бұрын

    great video . located Cleve. Oh. I know first hand how rough these waters can be. the negative comments have probably never been on the water let alone rough. Let haters be haters. keep posting thank you

  • @jonathanellsworth21

    @jonathanellsworth21

    8 ай бұрын

    Lol I suspect the negative comments have never seen the water except for videos of tsunamis and category 5 hurricanes 😂 Don’t worry, I’m having fun with this, and to be fair to some of them, I didn’t have the video set up for a massive audience at first, made it mostly for a couple dozen friends and family members who knew what I was talking about, so it was missing a lot of context that I’ve added in since. The number of interested people has been very much a welcome surprise! Thanks for watching!

  • @nadeemmustafa6450
    @nadeemmustafa64508 ай бұрын

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  • @jonathanellsworth21

    @jonathanellsworth21

    8 ай бұрын

    That’s a long way from the lakes! Glad to have you here!

  • @jamesburroughs4709
    @jamesburroughs47098 ай бұрын

    Wish there was video of the rest of the voyage!!!

  • @dodgeguyz
    @dodgeguyz8 ай бұрын

    I’ve seen storms in the Gulf and the Atlantic Ocean. They have nothing on the Great Lakes when the storms roll in!

  • @jonathanellsworth21

    @jonathanellsworth21

    8 ай бұрын

    I’ve been in and both and they can both get really bad for sure, in very different ways!

  • @Fritzsche-ki6gv

    @Fritzsche-ki6gv

    4 ай бұрын

    Nothing on them? Not taking anything out of the Great Lakes, but saying the oceans have nothing on…a lake…is kinda stretching it…

  • @russoley8995
    @russoley89958 ай бұрын

    A ship its size would thing nothing of 6 ' waves, as you see it was having no problem

  • @jonathanellsworth21

    @jonathanellsworth21

    8 ай бұрын

    Nope! Very impressive indeed. My one worry at the time was the draft markers on the hull indicated she was down about 30ft under the water, and the canal is dredged usually right around that same 30ft mark, more or less. She had to have been very close to scraping, not much room to roll in the waves at all, usually they don’t fill quite that full in these circumstances. Fortunately they seemed to have gotten it exactly correct, all the more impressive. She was rock steady.

  • @musicwerks
    @musicwerksАй бұрын

    Nice!

  • @richardhall916
    @richardhall9165 ай бұрын

    We didn't, rather couldn't wait , we had a week turnaround , Cleveland and back

  • @jonathanellsworth21

    @jonathanellsworth21

    5 ай бұрын

    You were on her? If so thank you very much! Probably seems normal to you, but what you guys do is amazing, and it inspires people around the world!

  • @charlestaylor7912
    @charlestaylor79126 ай бұрын

    Always some jag-off who's gotta put his one cent in.

  • @jonathanellsworth21

    @jonathanellsworth21

    6 ай бұрын

    ? Me or other commenters? lol

  • @bobdelano6746
    @bobdelano67465 ай бұрын

    God bless and happy new yr From the Crew of Dodge Buoy

  • @jonathanellsworth21

    @jonathanellsworth21

    5 ай бұрын

    Thank you! Happy New Year to you as well! Are you a smaller boat in the area?

  • @bobdelano6746

    @bobdelano6746

    5 ай бұрын

    @@jonathanellsworth21 i am yes . A 38 ft Bertram. On the western end of Lake Superior

  • @jonathanellsworth21

    @jonathanellsworth21

    5 ай бұрын

    @@bobdelano6746 probably seen you before then if you’ve come through Duluth! I’ll wave hello if I see you!

  • @OliverMoore1973
    @OliverMoore19738 ай бұрын

    How long is the damn thing!!😱

  • @jonathanellsworth21

    @jonathanellsworth21

    8 ай бұрын

    806ft

  • @baritonebynight
    @baritonebynightАй бұрын

    James Oberstar is responsible for Delta Queen's forced early retirement.

  • @josephinebennington7247
    @josephinebennington72478 ай бұрын

    Do the people who live at the bow ever meet or socialise with the people who live at the stern?

  • @roboftherock

    @roboftherock

    8 ай бұрын

    Probably not - chiefs and indians, etc?

  • @jonathanellsworth21

    @jonathanellsworth21

    8 ай бұрын

    Oh yes, actually not sure the back of the ship has very many cabins, I think most are up in the bow, potentially even below the waterline! The back mostly houses the engines, unloading equipment, galley, dining room and various other things like air conditioners etc. I imagine some people live back there, like an emergency crew for the engines but they’ll definitely socialize with the people in the front, because if they want to eat, then they have to either go back or someone has to bring it up! Part of the reason this design is no longer built, it wasn’t all that user friendly in some day-to-day life circumstances!

  • @josephinebennington7247

    @josephinebennington7247

    8 ай бұрын

    @@jonathanellsworth21 My post was initially tongue in cheek…but I’m grateful for the extra info. The bow-sprit looks an odd unnecessary addition too.

  • @jonathanellsworth21

    @jonathanellsworth21

    8 ай бұрын

    @@josephinebennington7247 it’s the steering pole! Since the bridge is so far forward and it’s hard to see the bow, it can be hard to tell exactly which direction is directly forward, so they put that there as an easy marker

  • @josephinebennington7247

    @josephinebennington7247

    8 ай бұрын

    @@jonathanellsworth21 Easy marker = easy answer! Well, well, well…Glad I asked.

  • @maxifenix9979
    @maxifenix99797 ай бұрын

    Small ship, small world.

  • @chuckmartin7482
    @chuckmartin74824 ай бұрын

    The captain wants to go water-skiing. ‘ Let’s put her up on plane’….

  • @user-lo5px7md8k
    @user-lo5px7md8k8 ай бұрын

    Сколько метров его длинна?

  • @Nonoatfirst
    @Nonoatfirst3 ай бұрын

    I dunno. I watched hundreds of these ships as a kid in the early 60s & could never understand how they managed in heavy 'seas'. Superior & Erie especially must have brutal waves. It just looks terribly vulnerable.

  • @jonathanellsworth21

    @jonathanellsworth21

    3 ай бұрын

    You forget just how much ship is underneath the water, you’re seeing probably a quarter of her

  • @seawench555
    @seawench5558 ай бұрын

    Thanks for sharing Jon, how long is she?

  • @jonathanellsworth21

    @jonathanellsworth21

    8 ай бұрын

    806ft

  • @Leo-qm6ue
    @Leo-qm6ue8 ай бұрын

    The length of that ship you think it would snap in half in heavy seas.

  • @jonathanellsworth21

    @jonathanellsworth21

    8 ай бұрын

    Tip of the iceberg, you’re only seeing about a quarter of the ship, the rest is underwater

  • @Fritzsche-ki6gv

    @Fritzsche-ki6gv

    4 ай бұрын

    In the ocean it would

  • @mrvoyagerm
    @mrvoyagerm8 ай бұрын

    Wouldn't even rattle the captains tea cup.

  • @jonathanellsworth21

    @jonathanellsworth21

    8 ай бұрын

    Probably not! They’re amazingly well built. Always a joy to see them, especially in their element, battling the waves. Usually it’s far out of sight so it was fun to see a small taste of it so close to shore.

  • @mrvoyagerm

    @mrvoyagerm

    8 ай бұрын

    @@jonathanellsworth21 The one that comes into Midland absolutely fills the harbour and makes all the other boats look like toys.

  • @jonathanellsworth21

    @jonathanellsworth21

    8 ай бұрын

    @@mrvoyagerm Michigan or Ontario?

  • @mrvoyagerm

    @mrvoyagerm

    8 ай бұрын

    @@jonathanellsworth21 Ontario

  • @jonathanellsworth21

    @jonathanellsworth21

    8 ай бұрын

    @@mrvoyagerm you probably get some Canadian lakers there then, or is it usually one in particular? Yeah they’re pretty huge! Especially when you see them next to your average pleasure boat

  • @roboftherock
    @roboftherock8 ай бұрын

    The blunt bow of Oberstar and the leading flagpole remind me of a narwhal. I get the impression that a unprepared spectator could end up being seriously drenched behind the canal wall. I liked the cutaway from the bridge walkway. I hadn't thought about it before, but each of those hoist cables must set up its own eddy currents upsetting the flow of air over the adjacent ones. They did move quite vigorously in the wind. Apart from the gale force winds, it looked like a reasonably good day.

  • @jonathanellsworth21

    @jonathanellsworth21

    8 ай бұрын

    Lol yep! The guy with the tripod took a pretty good wave at one point, unfortunately I didn’t catch it on the video 😂 hopefully his phone was ok! Glad you enjoyed!

  • @benishborogove2692

    @benishborogove2692

    8 ай бұрын

    I've been told the "leading flagpole" is called an aiming spar and was used to line up the ship in tight spaces. Modern lakers don't have them anymore.

  • @jonathanellsworth21

    @jonathanellsworth21

    8 ай бұрын

    @@benishborogove2692 steering pole! Yes, to expand on that, because the bridge was located so far forward on the hull, they had trouble telling exactly what direction straight forward was, so the pole was added as an easy reference. Now days the bridge is set further back so it’s not really necessary. However there is a bow mast that serves a similar purpose, and many modern ships have steering poles on the rear (usually doubling as a flag pole) especially the river size lakers such as Great Republic because they have to go down extremely tight rivers in reverse and they have the same issue.

  • @PAYNEKILLER..
    @PAYNEKILLER..5 ай бұрын

    Crazy seeing her under her own power, usually tugboat calling the shots.

  • @jonathanellsworth21

    @jonathanellsworth21

    5 ай бұрын

    She’s a Laker, these ships are the undisputed masters of the Lakes. Their captains and crews have pilot certifications and the ships have thrusters and other equipment that if all ships had them would make tugs obsolete. The only time tugs and pilot boats are used here in Duluth are for ocean going vessels (or “salties”) or for ice breaking if required, otherwise the ships are in total control of their movements. Nearly 70 year old ship and she still blows most modern vessels out of the water in terms of capabilities

  • @PAYNEKILLER..

    @PAYNEKILLER..

    5 ай бұрын

    @jonathanellsworth21 So awesome, I live in Maine, see a lot of 50ft lobster boats and big scallop boats by nothing like that. Crazy to see such a big ship handle like that.

  • @jonathanellsworth21

    @jonathanellsworth21

    5 ай бұрын

    @@PAYNEKILLER.. I’ve been up there, beautiful state! One of my favorites. I imagine you guys might see the occasional cruise ship but probably not too much for larger freighters. Canadian Lakers do go to Halifax on rare occasion though, so there are some not too far away!

  • @PAYNEKILLER..

    @PAYNEKILLER..

    5 ай бұрын

    @jonathanellsworth21 They're are cruise ships in Rockland harbor occasionally but I don't look at them like working ships for some reason haha. I'd still love to see the engine room though.

  • @MiBones
    @MiBones8 ай бұрын

    Do you know of any specific reason that the captain set off in this weather? I can understand complications in the canal, but how bad would it be on Superior proper?

  • @jonathanellsworth21

    @jonathanellsworth21

    8 ай бұрын

    I don’t think it was too terrible on the lake itself but it’s very hard to tell from shore. I do know the only other ship sailing on the open part of the lake at the time was a saltie (Isadora) which tend to care less about weather than lakers, they can ride much deeper if they want to for extra stability. All the other ships were either sheltered behind islands or skirting the outside edge along the whole northern shoreline. It did calm down later in the evening

  • @MiBones

    @MiBones

    8 ай бұрын

    @@jonathanellsworth21 Interesting about the salties. Thanks for the info.

  • @tuxedotservo

    @tuxedotservo

    8 ай бұрын

    Superior wasn't too bad - Lake Michigan had more of the wave action - 10-13 feet with the occasional 16 footer when last I looked at the Gale Warning. I'd assume Lake Huron was perhaps similar, though by the time they would've gotten to the Soo and started down Huron the gale was blowing itself out.

  • @MiBones

    @MiBones

    8 ай бұрын

    @@tuxedotservo Thanks. That helps to put it in perspective.

  • @tommcadam9897

    @tommcadam9897

    8 ай бұрын

    And...ships don't make money when they're at anchor.