Obama, Romney get heated over Libya

President Obama and Mitt Romney have a heated back and forth over the attack on the U.S. diplomatic mission in Libya.
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  • @anantnaik12
    @anantnaik123 жыл бұрын

    Remember when this was the most “heated” it would get in presidential debates 😂

  • @freddanlindmark4895
    @freddanlindmark48959 жыл бұрын

    You call that heated? You should watch European politicians..

  • @InfoRome

    @InfoRome

    8 жыл бұрын

    You are absolutely right...and they are discussing about nothing :O

  • @InfoRome

    @InfoRome

    8 жыл бұрын

    However I am with Obama on this. At least he talked about something. 1 day..14 days..who cares?

  • @FranciscoBrostantino

    @FranciscoBrostantino

    8 жыл бұрын

    Thats the most heated you can get from Obama

  • @radekseky4571

    @radekseky4571

    5 жыл бұрын

    How times have changed haven't they.

  • @meowdalachow7932

    @meowdalachow7932

    5 жыл бұрын

    Man if I was the Europe pres or whatever the highest authority I would start building my milatry god dam thier geography bigger then the u.s in fact

  • @uwezo86
    @uwezo864 жыл бұрын

    I would pay a million dollars to watch Obama debate Trump. 😂😂

  • @dantheman8152

    @dantheman8152

    Жыл бұрын

    Cheeto boy would have got cooked

  • @imthenoid69

    @imthenoid69

    11 ай бұрын

    @@dantheman8152 Lol

  • @DougiesFather

    @DougiesFather

    11 ай бұрын

    @@dantheman8152ya right Obama would have got smoked like a opp in O block

  • @vem9583

    @vem9583

    10 ай бұрын

    Obama: Why did you do nothing about the insurrection? Trump: WHERE’S YOUR BIRTH CERTIFICATE

  • @Cobras7111

    @Cobras7111

    10 ай бұрын

    Lol Obama would mop the floor with Trump

  • @pranavprakash4460
    @pranavprakash44604 жыл бұрын

    This debate is far more civilized than the debates for the 2016 election.

  • @thedukeofdunhurst6377

    @thedukeofdunhurst6377

    4 жыл бұрын

    Exactly correct ,politicians playing politics

  • @bobwiggle4533

    @bobwiggle4533

    4 жыл бұрын

    cause he has a script playing in his head

  • @jamx97

    @jamx97

    4 жыл бұрын

    Obama is a fucking clown all talk no action. Pussy president. Romney is another idiot.

  • @rromero1091

    @rromero1091

    4 жыл бұрын

    Trump says it how is it. That's why he won

  • @pranavprakash4460

    @pranavprakash4460

    4 жыл бұрын

    R Romero Yeah, he does. That’s not always a good thing though.

  • @mohamedsudheer9163
    @mohamedsudheer91636 жыл бұрын

    pls proceed governor

  • @StickFiguresMaster
    @StickFiguresMaster9 жыл бұрын

    2:08 OMFG HE GOT RED!!!!

  • @iggypopisgod9
    @iggypopisgod94 жыл бұрын

    Romney had a real opening here, but he fumbled badly

  • @Manatti06

    @Manatti06

    3 жыл бұрын

    There was zero to fumble on... He said Obama didn't call it terror. Even the moderator confirmed

  • @SergyMilitaryRankings

    @SergyMilitaryRankings

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@Manatti06 Obama is a war criminal

  • @jamessalmas7019
    @jamessalmas70193 жыл бұрын

    CNN: Obama and Romney get heated in a debate. 2020 debate: Am i a joke to you?

  • @dannyboyman12
    @dannyboyman124 жыл бұрын

    Obama = Genius. Constantly calling him “governor”. Demonstrating that their are levels to this while also respecting his title.

  • @elskerjeg5815

    @elskerjeg5815

    3 жыл бұрын

    That was Romney's title at the time. You wouldn't say "Romney". You say the title. Do you understand? It has nothing with telling Romney that he is less than Obama. Can you grasp that you have been informed?

  • @jd0879

    @jd0879

    2 жыл бұрын

    What. Can’t believe you and 226 people think Obama is calling him Governor as a power trip. He’s merely being respectful

  • @jonion7884

    @jonion7884

    2 жыл бұрын

    real genius would have been to call him Mitt

  • @phineos
    @phineos11 жыл бұрын

    Is it me or does Romney starts rapping at 2:36?

  • @hlrahmed

    @hlrahmed

    4 жыл бұрын

    Pj Oshio 😂😂😂

  • @cwaggs4339

    @cwaggs4339

    4 жыл бұрын

    2:36

  • @SharlenesJourney

    @SharlenesJourney

    4 жыл бұрын

    😂😂💀💀 right

  • @epicgamerz5851

    @epicgamerz5851

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@SharlenesJourney Haha im subbed to you

  • @epicgamerz5851

    @epicgamerz5851

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yoo back when numbers couldn't be highlighted and yee he was spittin lol

  • @seandaily6344
    @seandaily63446 жыл бұрын

    "Please Proceed Governor " lmao Obama shut him up !!

  • @GymContentsz

    @GymContentsz

    4 жыл бұрын

    airplanegod nah

  • @leopold7269

    @leopold7269

    4 жыл бұрын

    airplanegod na Bidens gonna send the orange buffoon flying out the house

  • @mogdaboi

    @mogdaboi

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@leopold7269 Biden wont even realise the Donald is destroying him lol oh jeepers I cant wait haha

  • @amayagaragedoors7672

    @amayagaragedoors7672

    3 жыл бұрын

    Get the transcript !! Lol It wasn’t no mistake it was a set up !!!

  • @ZASurvivor

    @ZASurvivor

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@airplanegod Biden won. Trump lost. Mk?

  • @TylerSpark714
    @TylerSpark7144 жыл бұрын

    Remember back in the day when the term "Heated debate" in politics didn't involve yelling at each other like children and shit slinging? I really wish we hadn't lost that civility in 2016.

  • @jamessulonteh7604
    @jamessulonteh76044 жыл бұрын

    "Can You Say It Louder Candy"lol

  • @johnnorris7632

    @johnnorris7632

    4 жыл бұрын

    Said it but not next day and Candy backed that up

  • @WiloPolis03
    @WiloPolis034 жыл бұрын

    Remember when this was considered heated?

  • @Tshepang.Nathan
    @Tshepang.Nathan6 жыл бұрын

    favourite moment: " Can you say that bit louder candy"😁😁😁

  • @michaelhourigan2599

    @michaelhourigan2599

    2 жыл бұрын

    🤢

  • @reneramirez3724
    @reneramirez37244 жыл бұрын

    Obama said im going for the full 8 years

  • @robinhansen8105
    @robinhansen810510 жыл бұрын

    He's fighting for his career and reputation, under heavy fire, while being watched by a billion people, live. It's impressive that he can any words right at all.

  • @parasitetenant1

    @parasitetenant1

    11 ай бұрын

    Destabilising an entire continent for oil. He was another shill with a commanding tongue.

  • @sheridangreer5003
    @sheridangreer500310 жыл бұрын

    Mitt why do u studder so much

  • @blueballsexotics8596

    @blueballsexotics8596

    6 жыл бұрын

    Sheridan Greer because he was shiting in his pants. Obama had him intimidated

  • @deluxebasketballanalysis2198

    @deluxebasketballanalysis2198

    5 жыл бұрын

    Francisco Garcia90 lmfaooo Obama bitchass is dumb

  • @mattg8600

    @mattg8600

    5 жыл бұрын

    Dulex Gamer Fairly sure Obama is smarter than you, me and everyone in this comment section lmao

  • @greysanatomy4life606

    @greysanatomy4life606

    4 жыл бұрын

    Deluxe Gamer ˆyou dont have to like his politics but he’s definitely intelligent

  • @jimeagle6636

    @jimeagle6636

    3 жыл бұрын

    You are kidding? Obama stutters like a machine gun.

  • @cheezmaka1237
    @cheezmaka12379 жыл бұрын

    How does that foot taste Governor??

  • @brianbuchholz5819

    @brianbuchholz5819

    6 жыл бұрын

    Obama said at 4:18 of this clip "No acts of terror will shake the resolve of this nation." He didn't call Bengazi was a act of terror, he used the word "Attack" and "Attackers" not "Terrorist Attack" or "Terrorist". kzread.info/dash/bejne/ZYKpmLiTaafLhsY.html

  • @johnnyzhang1387

    @johnnyzhang1387

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@brianbuchholz5819 Great observation, Russian troll!

  • @joecrockrell04

    @joecrockrell04

    5 жыл бұрын

    I wish we could have gotten Obama to say that quote

  • @gavpowell1981

    @gavpowell1981

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@brianbuchholz5819 He used the same words about September 11th in the same speech, not to mention that the word attack rather implies a terror attack, it's not like it was a mugging.

  • @davidv5552

    @davidv5552

    5 жыл бұрын

    Some,people will never or blind that obama over came to be a 200k a year man

  • @owusuboadimckeown2844
    @owusuboadimckeown28444 жыл бұрын

    Obama confuses Romney 😂😂

  • @JRod527763
    @JRod52776311 жыл бұрын

    The look that Romney gave Obama over that lie was priceless! XD

  • @seanlukens7433

    @seanlukens7433

    Жыл бұрын

    Obama was the one who lied.

  • @ILoveAmerica2424
    @ILoveAmerica242411 жыл бұрын

    how, please explain.

  • @sandyjuventus
    @sandyjuventus11 жыл бұрын

    Why is there AmaboKcorb.swf in the video suggestions? :D

  • @THEBASEDBOB
    @THEBASEDBOB11 жыл бұрын

    "PLEASE PROCEED... WITH EMBARRASSING YOURSELF..."

  • @patrickbaxter1849
    @patrickbaxter18495 жыл бұрын

    2:38 Stuttering and mumbling

  • @parkerwright586

    @parkerwright586

    4 жыл бұрын

    I'd love to see you out there. That would be a real beauty to see I'm sure.

  • @CornellG

    @CornellG

    3 жыл бұрын

    Patrick Baxter should’ve said “Mitt, relax, you’re stuttering. Breath my friend”.

  • @caroljohnson1415
    @caroljohnson14153 жыл бұрын

    I wanted to see what a “civilized debate” looked like, because I forgot. I thought going back pre-Trump would be helpful. I was surprised when I saw so many others do the same. Hmm.....I should have paid more attention to other time frame posts. 😢😷

  • @juliangeorge2026
    @juliangeorge2026 Жыл бұрын

    "please proceed"

  • @GTOoo
    @GTOoo5 жыл бұрын

    Please proceed.

  • @nh0ckvit
    @nh0ckvit11 жыл бұрын

    What do you do in the future

  • @dawnroccadaboat
    @dawnroccadaboat11 жыл бұрын

    FYI - look up the word 'friend'. Also.."That's it" makes it 6 words.

  • @deggiemac7596
    @deggiemac759611 жыл бұрын

    Tell me what he has done.

  • @commonman80
    @commonman8011 жыл бұрын

    Yep...

  • @MrP868686
    @MrP86868611 жыл бұрын

    Anyone watching this video has officially witnessed the end of any chance Romney had against Obama at the polls. I wouldnt be surprised if we find out he dropped out the race tomorrow. I just love how Obama let Romney talk himself right into a corner, and then gave him a few seconds to let the world see him for who he really is before stepping up and kindly changing the subject. Check and mate....

  • @BigLebowski2000
    @BigLebowski200011 жыл бұрын

    Romney got owned ha! ;D

  • @lettherebelamp5102
    @lettherebelamp51027 жыл бұрын

    "Please proceed governor." Fuckin Badass

  • @mmnyako
    @mmnyako6 жыл бұрын

    Bama droping down the hammer all night long on Romney

  • @shadapakap
    @shadapakap4 жыл бұрын

    When Trump interrupts the other candidates, y'all get pissed and call him names. When Obama interrupts the other candidates, nobody says a thing. I see how it is.

  • @jamesmarroquin731

    @jamesmarroquin731

    4 жыл бұрын

    The difference is that Trump reduces himself to calling his opponents petty insults. He is a classless person. Name me one time Obama ever personally insulted any of his opponents. I’ll wait.

  • @shadapakap

    @shadapakap

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@jamesmarroquin731 Oh, so he never insulted any of his opponents but he blatantly disrespected them by interrupting while they're speaking, right? How classy...

  • @whothou

    @whothou

    12 күн бұрын

    ​@@shadapakapit's a debate and him interrupting people is rare and usually defensive. But if he does it's to emphasize a point or to actually come with a follow up. Both Obama and Romney have interrupted each other in their debates. Past debates have done the same.

  • @truthsayer7172
    @truthsayer71725 жыл бұрын

    Candy unnecessarily messed up Mitt Romney's point.

  • @bradtdarius

    @bradtdarius

    3 жыл бұрын

    My favorite moment of those debates. The moderator could verify Obama's claim, because she was one of the reporters at the Rose Garden when Obama called it an act of terrorism.

  • @dmndbiggestfan2605
    @dmndbiggestfan26054 жыл бұрын

    We should bring samurai swords and let it roll

  • @ProchetoDasGupta
    @ProchetoDasGupta4 жыл бұрын

    I wish I could see a debate between Obama and Trump .

  • @ILoveAmerica2424
    @ILoveAmerica242411 жыл бұрын

    can someone send me the time on the rose garden speech where obama calls the lybia attacks acts of terror plz.

  • @KMactheFarmer
    @KMactheFarmer4 жыл бұрын

    What about the weapons barry?

  • @ILoveAmerica2424
    @ILoveAmerica242411 жыл бұрын

    True, very well put Calvin. Thank you for contributing with facts common sense and proper language.

  • @duegreat
    @duegreat11 жыл бұрын

    Why do we still have no answers?

  • @loislane5001
    @loislane50014 жыл бұрын

    Like you.

  • @Davidof1990
    @Davidof19903 жыл бұрын

    Who's watching this after the Trump - Biden debate?

  • @00z53
    @00z534 жыл бұрын

    I miss him

  • @williamperez492
    @williamperez4923 жыл бұрын

    This dude started 3 wars in 8 years

  • @benaffleckisanokayactor

    @benaffleckisanokayactor

    3 жыл бұрын

    Great

  • @dereksue4877

    @dereksue4877

    11 ай бұрын

    That's the aforementioned country's choice, not this one man's choice.

  • @Augustus99100

    @Augustus99100

    18 күн бұрын

    Exactly he had 7 wars in his presidency and ended none. Trump ended all of them in 4 years.

  • @SharlenesJourney
    @SharlenesJourney4 жыл бұрын

    2:36

  • @commonman80
    @commonman8011 жыл бұрын

    I have FOUR Words for you my friend. Get Hooked On Phonics... That's it...

  • @richardtompkins9797
    @richardtompkins97975 жыл бұрын

    He got you on that one

  • @MC_1993
    @MC_19934 жыл бұрын

    That’s how a president is supposed to be. It’s impressive how well spoken he is.

  • @wilmarkjohnatty4924

    @wilmarkjohnatty4924

    Жыл бұрын

    He just lied to you to your face and then gas lit everyone "get the tape candy" - Candy capitulates and the admits it took 2 weeks. He is a liar.

  • @geebster.

    @geebster.

    Жыл бұрын

    @@wilmarkjohnatty4924 google the transcript. he called it an attack then said “No acts of terror will ever shake the resolve of this great nation.” Why mention acts of terror when talking about Benghazi other than to include it as one? Criticize him for not using harsher language, but he said act of terror.

  • @commonman80
    @commonman8011 жыл бұрын

    No, "To Sweet" is what I ment...

  • @Delorian82
    @Delorian8211 жыл бұрын

    You could possibly come to that conclusion if you ignore him blaming it on the video in the same speech and 4 hours later Susan Rice said to the media it was not a coordinated or organized attack but a spontaneous reaction to the video. And that is what they ran with for 2 weeks after.

  • @craiggerrard5117
    @craiggerrard511710 жыл бұрын

    It's incredible that Romney relied on ill-informed partisan bloggers for his information. Serves him right that he was made to look foolish.

  • @ramayaruk
    @ramayaruk6 жыл бұрын

    Bama was bout to knock a nucker out!

  • @floodedcar123
    @floodedcar1237 жыл бұрын

    @Genetal waffen Thank you

  • @joshuameek9187
    @joshuameek918723 күн бұрын

    I remember when I thought there was a lot of drama in this debate compared to know this was nothing.

  • @inankaradag9703
    @inankaradag97034 жыл бұрын

    ?

  • @dragunov815
    @dragunov815 Жыл бұрын

    Oh.

  • @justinland7489
    @justinland74899 жыл бұрын

    this guy is clinically/criminally in-fuckin-sane

  • @commonman80
    @commonman8011 жыл бұрын

    It's here on KZread. Go to CNN. Or just put it in the search box...

  • @bobbybrady8
    @bobbybrady811 жыл бұрын

    then why didnt they send the marines in there if it is 'simple tactics'?

  • @genes6043
    @genes60434 жыл бұрын

    Complete and utter meltdown from 2:37. What an absolute joke of a performance put on by Romney

  • @sedeyus
    @sedeyus11 жыл бұрын

    Yeah, I admit that pissed me off too. Before the first debate, Obama was polling around the same levels electorally as he did in 2008. And he was close in Arizona and Missouri, two states he didn't win in 2008. He could helped with some house races and a senate race in Arizona if he took Romney apart in the first debate, like he did in the second and third debate.

  • @kerm6460
    @kerm64604 жыл бұрын

    when obama said "please proceed"

  • @Whitneypyant
    @Whitneypyant11 жыл бұрын

    Yes he did called on act of terror. Here a quote "No acts of terror will ever shake the resolve of this great nation, alter that character, or eclipse the light of the values that we stand for,"

  • @Augustus99100

    @Augustus99100

    18 күн бұрын

    He invaded Libya without Congress and started three wars in his presidency. Hillary testified to Congress years later that the video story was used prior to the terrorist story.

  • @Startrakk989
    @Startrakk98911 жыл бұрын

    How ironic.

  • @scwt89
    @scwt8911 жыл бұрын

    The Transcript: "No acts of terror will ever shake the resolve of this great nation, alter that character or eclipse the light of the values that we stand for"

  • @nyvarsitysports
    @nyvarsitysports5 жыл бұрын

    2:09 - Obama's face was like '...idiot...'

  • @patpathos
    @patpathos5 жыл бұрын

    Lol, yes Mr. President, I'm sure you were happy to move on....

  • @agunwoke
    @agunwoke4 жыл бұрын

    When you see a president you know.

  • @Delorian82
    @Delorian8211 жыл бұрын

    I saw the confidence in Obama after Crowley saved him from the smackdown.

  • @lindsey7951

    @lindsey7951

    Жыл бұрын

    Smackdown? It was a lie, there was nothing to get smacked down over.

  • @jimeagle6636
    @jimeagle66363 жыл бұрын

    You could title this video, "How Candy Crowley ended her career in 30 seconds."

  • @yao052

    @yao052

    2 жыл бұрын

    - How Candy Crowley ended her career in 30 seconds by being correct!

  • @Kevin-ou4xj
    @Kevin-ou4xj Жыл бұрын

    0:21 Just pure leadership. Stands up for his team and takes responsibility for anything they do, good or bad. Night and day between Obama and Trump, and I feel silly even having to say that 😵

  • @thataintfalc0
    @thataintfalc011 жыл бұрын

    You can really see the confidence in Obama when he pointed out Romneys pathetic attempt at lying. I really hope the american people are smart enough to re-elect him.

  • @MrReaper2050
    @MrReaper205011 жыл бұрын

    You should watch the entire video. He did in fact refer to the incident as an act of terror. Here is the quote: "NO ACTS OF TERROR will ever shake the resolve of this great nation, alter that character, or eclipse the light of the values that we stand for,"

  • @lunafringe10
    @lunafringe104 жыл бұрын

    how was in charge of the house then? Reps? Why didnt they confront Obama on this?

  • @charlesw322
    @charlesw3224 жыл бұрын

    Who was the black guy? Did he ever become president?? That would have been kind of cool!

  • @qcbornbred4780

    @qcbornbred4780

    4 жыл бұрын

    He ended up being president believe or not and did quite a shitty job

  • @TheNineFiveSeven
    @TheNineFiveSeven10 жыл бұрын

    hue hue hue

  • @ILoveAmerica2424
    @ILoveAmerica242411 жыл бұрын

    I did that and the whole rose garden speech came up, but he doesn't call the lybia attacks an act or terror. can someone send me the exact time on the video? CNN and Fox, msnbc ext..only have clips which im used to being misleading. because they can get things out of context.

  • @Augustus99100

    @Augustus99100

    18 күн бұрын

    He never did because they were still lying about the video.

  • @kingre7
    @kingre711 жыл бұрын

    Yea but they knew an attack was happening and NO riot was outside the compound. Also ignored requests for more security at the compound... So, you really want to continue down this road you cannot win?

  • @dawnroccadaboat
    @dawnroccadaboat11 жыл бұрын

    Commonman 80...you said I did not understand Phonics and later grammar? Check your usage of the word "TO" in 'TO SWEET"...it should be "TOO" :) Have a nice day.

  • @SSJCyan
    @SSJCyan8 жыл бұрын

    candy crowley makes me sick

  • @Phallomancer

    @Phallomancer

    7 жыл бұрын

    "S-s-she... called my team out for lying... I...I hate this lady!" - Kevin Trembley, 2016

  • @jimeagle6636

    @jimeagle6636

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Phallomancer well idiot, Obama and Crowley lied.

  • @DrumFrenzy123
    @DrumFrenzy12311 жыл бұрын

    most spine tingling moment in the whole debate in my opinion.

  • @marinegirlpowers8888
    @marinegirlpowers88885 жыл бұрын

    He is something

  • @madhusudhanark4338
    @madhusudhanark43384 жыл бұрын

    Can't even imagine this kind of debate in india

  • @swordarmstudios6052
    @swordarmstudios605211 жыл бұрын

    They don't send commandos into an operation without full knowledge of the situation of the ground. That is what Marines and other shock troops are for. That is simple tactics.

  • @lucyloojones2779
    @lucyloojones27794 жыл бұрын

    Tell it like only you can! You have NEVER HIDDEN the truth! Thank you for standing up for our nation!

  • @TheRealBizWiz
    @TheRealBizWiz11 жыл бұрын

    Towards the end when the President gets up, Romney sounds like he's just rambling.. I actually felt kind of sorry for him, lol.

  • @sammysamMZB
    @sammysamMZB4 жыл бұрын

    Clenched jaw...gadamn obeezy 😂😂

  • @sl5932
    @sl5932 Жыл бұрын

    Romney looked the part but couldn't land a punch.

  • @Helga7850

    @Helga7850

    Жыл бұрын

    Romney is not an Islamist, at least.,

  • @Topman9792
    @Topman97923 жыл бұрын

    If be delighted to see Obama and Trump debate. Orderly, classy and dignified vs tough, resilient, deal maker.

  • @chinabuddy
    @chinabuddy11 жыл бұрын

    Also I think the strict definition by our government on terrorism is that these acts of terror such as 911 are not random but rather specifically designed to create terror. Terror is intense dread/fear whereas terrorism is the systematic use of terror. Hence a terrorist systematically uses terror as his weapon. People getting angry at someone randomly killing them would not be an act of terror. The random person killing them however could be a terrorist "if" it was his intent to cause terror.

  • @commonman80
    @commonman8011 жыл бұрын

    It wasn't The "eye of a lion" look. It was a HOLLY CRAP I'M BUSTED!!! WHAT DO I DO NOW!!! Look...

  • @JohnScott9000
    @JohnScott900011 жыл бұрын

    Barry still failed to answer the actual question from the audience.

  • @phineos
    @phineos11 жыл бұрын

    Watch the polls in the next few days.

  • @Calvin5150VH
    @Calvin5150VH11 жыл бұрын

    He speaks in very general terms and never called what happened in Libya a terrorist attack. "No acts of terror will ever....." Is he talking about Libya or just whatever?

  • @Mike-qk9ys
    @Mike-qk9ys4 жыл бұрын

    His people were on the record for 4 days saying it was a protest. Because he used the word terror in a speech in the rose garden, it does not mean he said it was a terrorist attack. It took 15 minutes for Trump to order troops into Bagdad the other day to protect the embassy. 15 MINUTES!!!!!

  • @kingre7
    @kingre711 жыл бұрын

    Truth did... but apparently not one liberal saw it... After the debate Crowley admitted that Romney was correct. But who's watching CNN after the debate at 12 am???