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@commandercaleb_

4 ай бұрын

W

@JustLikeHeaven77

4 ай бұрын

Nearvana?

Pretty sure the title was a sarcastic jab at how the media was putting out articles on how Kurt was depressed, dark and brooding all the time.

@hetnieuwenormaal

7 ай бұрын

And he sure proved them wrong

@briankennedy1192

7 ай бұрын

Exactly lad. Plain examples of how British and American sarcasm or dark humour doesn't always translate.

@joen8529

7 ай бұрын

@@hetnieuwenormaal Considering Courtney did it, no he didn’t.

@jessewallace666

7 ай бұрын

@@joen8529 someone had to be the Courtney killed Kurt guy….😂

@hetnieuwenormaal

7 ай бұрын

@@joen8529 I guess Yoko broke up the Beatles too eh?

“The song title was a joke” proceeds to kill himself a year later

@sorryimsosad

7 ай бұрын

And people be like “BUT HE SAID IT WAS A JOKE” Yeah and I’m sure we all would be totally honest about a very sad and scary feeling w a tv interviewer

@imwastingmytimeonthis677

7 ай бұрын

he didn’t kill himself Courtney did there a video showing very clear proof she hired someone to kill him it’s sad and scary how gullible people are 😩

@RavenBlaze420

7 ай бұрын

Kurt was murdered. There is to much evidence to murder. Then again you believe the narrative's and not the facts.

@texisthereason

7 ай бұрын

ANNNNDDDD I SWEAAARRR THAT IIIII DONTTTT HAVE. A GUNNNNNN. He bought a gun a week before he died and took the bullets with him to an airport. The driver didn't return them back to his house. Courtney's hit man Allen wrench had to buy new to kill him since they weren't there when he did the job.

@valentinoletcher

7 ай бұрын

Bro kurt didn't suicide. He was murdered.

We needed both. Kurt's words made us feel heard and understood. Noel's words gave us hope and helped us realize we've got a long way to go. I love them both immensely.

Kurt was right. Noel is right Both beautiful

@michaelsotomayor5001

2 ай бұрын

good take

@user-xm3wd8tz6d

Ай бұрын

This was my thought as well and I didn’t know he thought this at the time.

It was a joke title and the song is more or less about love. And it was never a hit, it was a b side.

@deafphantom865

7 ай бұрын

A joke that didnt age well

@shea8294

7 ай бұрын

He didn’t know Courtney would take him literally

@KPac1234

7 ай бұрын

glamorizing suicide was done throughout the in utero record, they’re a pop rock group at this point doing that smh

@jurgisvalancauskas4006

7 ай бұрын

You talk like Kurt didn't kill himself. Read his diaries (they are published). He was on the way to suicide all the time from his teenage years to his eventual death. He was suicidal

@SWOLDER

7 ай бұрын

That song is not about love …..

Ahh yes "leave forever" my favourite Oasis song.

@untissify

2 ай бұрын

😂

@patmarek1222

Ай бұрын

😅

@samtomo69

Ай бұрын

😂😂😂😂😂😂 LEAVEEEE FOREVERR

@kennethlauer4735

Ай бұрын

Ooooasis

@alfonsoyanez4953

Ай бұрын

“Leave forever” then “Don’t go away”

“Leave forever” and a picture of Liam to start. Great vid

The fact Noel knew that B-Side shows he was really a fan and it inspired him to write an epic A-Side.

@jodiestonehill9318

6 ай бұрын

Nailed it.

@zarni000

4 ай бұрын

dont know if you are aware but anybody who was even remotely involved in music would know pretty much everything of nirvana's that came out. they were that big.

@nemesis8626

4 ай бұрын

​@@zarni000 yeah but that song didn't even come out. Only on in uteros 30th anniversary edition decades after the albums original release and Kurts death, it was due to be on the pennyroyal tea single but never did because Kurt died so it didn't get put out

@Black-lq2pb

4 ай бұрын

@@nemesis8626 It was first released in November 1993 as the first track on The Beavis and Butt-Head Experience compilation album which peaked at number 5 on the Billboard 200

@davidchez513

3 ай бұрын

​@@nemesis8626Wrong, it released in the Beavis and Butthead Experience on November 1993

I don’t think I’d call that song a hit

@timhazelwonder151

7 ай бұрын

I would

@gummyerin

7 ай бұрын

Live forever is not a hit , its a master piece

@DerekDerekDerekDerekDerekDerek

7 ай бұрын

​@@gummyerin😂😂

@ricmcguigan1635

7 ай бұрын

That whole Beavis and Butthead cd was pretty good.

@haughteyify

7 ай бұрын

Biblical

They were both right. That’s what makes them both legendary artists.

@SuperBroonie

5 ай бұрын

😂 yeah at least Nirvana understood dynamics and meter. Oasis songs are nearly all the same speed Which makes Noel a crap composer really he hit a formula and never detracts.

@electricmaster23

5 ай бұрын

that's ridiculous and not at all what I was saying. "Live Forever" is one of the best songs ever written.

@jamie8037

4 ай бұрын

​@@SuperBroonie absolute bollocks

@matty-mm5vo

3 ай бұрын

@@SuperBroonie please shut up

@shane6450

3 ай бұрын

@@SuperBroonieNoel is all about, “positivity maaan” yet don’t ask him to play certain songs or he’ll curse you out and threaten to murder you. Very positive.

Both are real. Both are valid. I can see the beauty in both

The first pic is Liam 😂

@arinthia827

5 ай бұрын

Fr how is no one else noticing that

@skuLLface_firec0ck

5 ай бұрын

It’s Noel

@j-xmas

4 ай бұрын

Not sure how they didn’t spot that 🙄

@leegreene5148

4 ай бұрын

know ur potato 😆

@AceBambam

4 ай бұрын

same thing😂

Neither side is right nor wrong, it's creative freedom, and people can have opinions that are different from someone else

That's Liam in the beginning, not Noel. But I imagine they both felt the same. I remember when Oasis hit here in the States. They really were a breath of fresh air. Rock music had become so relentlessly downbeat, at least lyrically. Obviously for Kurt, the depression was real. I mean, he did what he did, so he clearly wasn't bullshitting. But for many, the dark lyrics were just bandwagon-jumping. Dudes who a few years prior were imitating Poison and Motley Crue were now writing songs about how much they hated themselves and how lost they were. 😂 It had gotten stale. So many of them acted embarrassed by fame, and they made a point of never appearing excited about anything. Then the Gallagher brothers came along, giving that all the two-finger salute, being cocky as hell, Liam singing proudly "I'm a rock and roll starrrr!" Oasis ruled.

@miggypeso909

3 ай бұрын

Yeah they weren’t all that popular here. Maybe where your from but they where seen as boring Beatle wannabes for the most part.

@_boracic_atreus_23

Ай бұрын

This is an AI video mate.

He is right there is no value in self pity at all

Live forever is one of the best tracks ever written !

@pearljammer7689

4 ай бұрын

Far from it 🤣🤣🤣😜

@The01Lawliet

2 ай бұрын

It is a great track indeed!

The point of his music is to help people like him, that may be sad and hurt, feel less alone in a world where being sad is frowned apon.

@KPac1234

7 ай бұрын

Yeah with lines like “ look on the bright side suicide” he was really trying to help people lol

@sageantone7291

7 ай бұрын

The point is not telling people what the point is.

@lilhollo420

7 ай бұрын

@@sageantone7291 the point is I never asked of your opinion

@whoareyouyouareclearlylost323

7 ай бұрын

Who the hell remembers Gallagher or Kurt Kobain more? That's right...

@lilhollo420

7 ай бұрын

@@whoareyouyouareclearlylost323 I only talk of valid points and that his music helps people, everyone knows the band members if there a fan and that they had wayyy more than one drummer. Stop trying to call me out on shit, I don't see you covering there music!

I don’t think Kurt gave a crap what anyone thought 😂 forget the lyrics for a sec, the music is what really matters… hate myself was a rockin track!!

@ScurvyRascal

29 күн бұрын

Hear hear! Can't stand the Gallaghers arrogance 🤮

I totally think Gallagher was right about this. Although I understand that yes, I agree Kurt cobain’s song was about self pity. That was Kurt letting out his raw emotions. I do believe Kurt was through a really hard time and it needed to be expressed. I also believe artists do have powers to create a change in fans perspectives. Both are right actually. However I can also understand Gallagher’s take on this also.

That's freedom of expression in music regardless of what opinion you might have about it. Its great that Oasis wanted to send out uplifting music for people. It's our biology, environment and influences that make us who we are. I'm not happy all the time craving happy music and messages. Sometimes I am. But other times I want to scream to release anger or cry to release sadness. Kurt had a different experience and felt abandonment as a child being kicked out of his mothers and fathers homes on numerous occasions during a recession in a small poor town even sleeping under a bridge as a teen when he had nowhere to stay. I have similar experiences in my life. So when I'm feeling a certain way it's comforting to know that there are successful people out there sharing the same raw emotions from those hard experiences and not just faking it to bend over because someone doesn't understand it. It's music man. And maybe it's not the same anymore here in North America but we used to have that freedom as any type of artist whether you're a painter, writer, musician or any other kind. It's all controlled now but it didn't used to be like that. On top of all that Kurt was bashed in the media constantly. Pretty tough to write how happy, amazing and accepting the world is when it's not true for you in your life. Art should be raw and real. It's an expression of self. If you don't feel sadness or anger at times you're a robot. I have nothing against Oasis. They've written iconic music and deserve their place in history. But we're all human. Just be you

@alexnagy2044

7 ай бұрын

This is the coolest comment in my personal opinion. Absolutely correct in every aspects! 😊✌🏻💜

@Mattythebassman

7 ай бұрын

Noel came from a super working class background with an abusive father. He probably had just as much the same problems as Kurt.

@zerog1037

6 ай бұрын

He actually didn't sleep under a bridge, not tht it should take away from his music.

Live forever is an incredible song

Live forever is my favorite song from Oasis, and Oasis has been my favorite band for a very long time. Noel definitely knew how to write songs and the way he portrayed life was beautiful.

Both tracks are pretty awesome.

"I Hate Myself And I Want To Die" is a JOKE title. It's a Kurtism. It's a b-side and isn't on any album and the lyrics are just amusing nonsense. "Runny nose and runny yolk Even if you have a cold still You can cough on me again I still haven't had my full fill". Gallagher is a total git for taking the title literally. I believe Kurt used to say it sarcastically when asked how he was doing. Similar to the way he'd show up at a party and demand of the host "Here we are, now entertain us!" To be funny which ended up in Smells Like Teen Spirit. Kurt was troubled but also quite funny and people continue to completely misunderstand him.

@austinwalker2000

7 ай бұрын

​@@stephen4631🙄 don't get offended so easily

@BlindingSun_

7 ай бұрын

It is on an album though

@austinwalker2000

7 ай бұрын

@@stephen4631 being like he took it to far is a I'm offended type of response

@austinwalker2000

7 ай бұрын

@@BlindingSun_ B side so bonus but yes technically on an album I'm guessing that part was a typo

@BlindingSun_

7 ай бұрын

@@austinwalker2000 it was on the beavis and butthead album

The title was a response to all these people, reporters etc constantly asking himself how are you (like the famous t shirt he wore ironically), I don’t think he was actually expressing suicidal it’s at the time. Although in hindsight I see how that’s difficult to believe. They also had a song entitled a rape me that repeated the title many times throughout the song yet it was 100% anti rape and the band had a very hard stance against any kind of violence towards women, in fact the only rule at their shows was no groping the females. So like most thing Gallagher was sadly misinformed.

@alexnagy2044

7 ай бұрын

His famous Tee "Hi how are you?" That's a Daniel Johnston classic genius album artwork. Just check it out and you won't be so misinformed either...lol (Kurt was a huge fan of Daniel, RIP 🕊️ both of them) Anyway as much as I love Cobain's work, that's why I never agreed with sarcasm. There are things that are too serious for this, and only work face to face! Then a person can feel it from emphasis or from mimicry, gestures. But no one can expect us to treat a written thing with absolute irony. If you look at it from here, Noel did well! (Imo ofc) ✌🏻💜

@sorryimsosad

7 ай бұрын

I mean he literally killed himself and attempted before and wrote about hating himself and his life in his journals. Also would you air out your internal struggles w some random interviewer?

@violetscreaming

7 ай бұрын

@@sorryimsosad But it’s well documented what the true meaning of that songs title was and it wasn’t literal

@alexnagy2044

7 ай бұрын

@@violetscreaming His famous Tee "Hi how are you?" That's a Daniel Johnston classic genius album artwork. Just check it out and you won't be so misinformed either...lol (Kurt was a huge fan of Daniel, RIP 🕊️ both of them) Anyway as much as I love Cobain's work, that's why I never agreed with sarcasm. There are things that are too serious for this, and only work face to face! Then a person can feel it from emphasis or from mimicry, gestures. But no one can expect us to treat a written thing with absolute irony. If you look at it from here, Noel did well! (imo ofc) ✌🏻💜

@violetscreaming

7 ай бұрын

@@alexnagy2044 how am I misinformed? He famously wore a tshirt that said hi how are you? Even you said so, so I’m not sure how I’m misinformed?

We needed both, the raw feelings we all go through, but a tune to lift us back up... Just helps us feel alive! Thanks guys!

I feel Cobain really at times thought that's what people think of me. He would often say my lyrics have very little to do with my life or me at all but could be maybe he was a little embarrassed only Kurt knows ? his lyrics have helped people in darkness no doubt. thanks Kurt for your talent and honesty RIP.

Noel Gallagher wasn't the only one that was right, so was my dad. RIP ❤️

“The song’s name is a joke” *kills himself the next year*

Live Forever helped and defined young people in the 90’s in the UK. The beginning of a new era. One of the best songs ever.

I like both groups

Both were right. Nothing wrong with using your life experiences as song writer or write a song for the masses that have nothing to do with you

Kurt’s music was more relatable, honest and angsty. I think in that way it was uplifting because people didn’t feel alone. I don’t think he had a lot of self pity that’s just how he felt in that moment when he made that song I’m guessing.

Leave forever. I love that song.

✨Two good songs that’s it. Move along.✨

I dont think gallagher was wrong for thinking how he did but he definitely diddnt understand that kurts goal was not to motivate and inspire listeners like him, actually in hindsight kurt diddnt have a goal or any ambition, he simply wanted to portray the pain and passion he felt in his heart and mind. He was a true artist not afraid to embrace the self pity and self loathing because honesty is the best clarity. He did not care to send out hopeful messages he cared to make raw, emotional, honest lyrics and music so that the people who are tortured by the same mentality can resonate and feel less alone in their sufferings. He definitely succeeded with me.

@christopher19894

7 ай бұрын

The glorification of suicide or depression is the worst thing for suicidal and depressed people to experience tho, especially if there's no happy ending or light at the end of the tunnel within the writing, because it justifies existing in that realm indefinitely. And then, when their suicidal idol who glorifies darkness actually kills himself, it becomes a demonic enterprise on every level. It's interesting to analyze as a stable music nerd or historian who has no personal investment in the personality of Kurt-- but a lot of kids and teens were all in, and then Kurt cashed out, leaving them feeling even more empty than they did before they got sucked into the cult of his personality.

@l4rkm3ss

6 ай бұрын

@@Aku-eg3jq me too i have respect for just grunge rock as a whole its just so raw and passionate. They were true artists🗣️

@l4rkm3ss

6 ай бұрын

@@christopher19894 i see your point, i can agree that it can lead to consequences but i think 'glorification' is the wrong word for it. It was more acknowledgment. ofc its always good to look at the world positively but the truth is the world is not positive. There are no real happy endings, to truly feel real passion and love means that tremendous pain is up next. In the end thats just how it is. The only thing we can do is be content with that. Artists like Kurt could see that and wanted to embrace it. Not to glorify the truth but to acknowledge it and display the beauty in the cruelty. Sadly people are very impressionable but that shouldn't stop messages from being sent. Ignorance is bliss but those who want to see past that should have the right to do so. For me this was the soul thing that helped me through my depression, cant say ive gotten rid of it but ive been enlightened, ive been able to make sense of it, i dont want to live, but having music i can resonate with, knowing im not alone in how i see the world, it grounds me and it keeps me here. Cant say that for everyone but its still the case for some. Sorry for the long tangent 😭

It wasn’t a hit … it was a very obscure b side … it appeared in no album … and the song is nothing about hating yourself or dying

@BlindingSun_

7 ай бұрын

It appeared on an album in 1993

@AnglephileSwedenGerman

7 ай бұрын

U​@@BlindingSun_its sad u had to Google that

@ericbroggi6151

7 ай бұрын

It appeared on The Beavis and Butthead Experience album.

@joshuagallman9922

6 ай бұрын

It was on that Beavis and Butthead album

@nemesis8626

4 ай бұрын

​​@@BlindingSun_ not a Nirvana album it didn't, yeah beavis and butthead, how many people you think rushed to get that? 😂

Music is the only thing in the universe that you can love more than whatever you think you are, that's the key of living forever.

I would say that song has reflected my mental state at several points in my life, and tbh it didn't have a negative effect on me. It made me feel like I wasn't alone

That is Liam in the picture. But yes Nirvana were too soppy and Oasis were only about the good times. They have songs about everything in life and can help you through any mood.

@FilaMila-wc4iw

5 ай бұрын

in case of someone mentally challenged, very true

Musicians aren't here to please the masses. It's art, it's personal, and typically it describes what's going on in their life at the time. Life isn't sunshine & rainbows all the time, Kurt was a very positive person, and he was very clever with his lyrics...like "R@pe Me" for example....people thought it glorified it when in fact it's the opposite...it's an ANTI-R@pe song. With "I hate myself and want to die" I think he was pointing out the fact that people think these things daily, but are judged when they discuss them openly.... kudos to Kurt for having the b@lls to put it all out there . 💯👏🏻🌹

"And i was like holdup, that aint no hottub!?"

I believe both were true in their endevours

Kurt wasn't serious about the song title. If I remember correctly, he wanted to call In Utero that name, and the label wasn't having it. IMO I Hate Myself... is one of my favorite Nirvana B-Sides. All that said, Live Forever is a great, great song.

@hisenseks

4 ай бұрын

No one is serious until they are

No one wears an Oasis shirt everywhere you go in life. Nirvana❤ Kurt Cobain🥰 spoke/still speaks to people young and old everywhere. 💯💕

@mickhack749

7 ай бұрын

Everyone learns wonderwall before any nirvana song on guitar though so…….

@MDG509_

7 ай бұрын

​@@mickhack749 I learnt about a girl before Wonderwall...

@Skinnyfish09

7 ай бұрын

I still wear an Oasis shirt. 😅

@Alienkiwi730

7 ай бұрын

A lot of young people who wear Nirvana shirts don't even listen to Nirvana

@mikeycraig8970

7 ай бұрын

Yes they do. Just because they messed up cracking America, which in their words, "they couldn't be arsed" to do. They were massive literally everywhere but the States and yes, I saw someone wearing an oasis t shirt two weeks ago. Besides I'd rather wear an oasis one than nirvana just because it's primark selling the t shirts l😂

The thing is, when you have a lot of pain and Despair, hearing others share theirs actually uplifts you because you finally feel not alone in your feelings, and others understand and go through their own battle. So if you hear a “happy” song, it makes you feel misunderstood, thereby isolating you even further

Anyone can write about whatever they want , music is an artistic form of expression.

Maybe it’s also partly because he’s just mad that he writes shit boring songs lmaoo

@matthewensign9683

7 ай бұрын

I've tried listening to Oasis. I don't get it. Maybe I'm missing the context or nostalgia factor...either way, I don't get the hype.

@benjaminlewington6627

7 ай бұрын

Shit boring songs that's sold more that 70million times 🤷‍♂️

@francisbrodie9140

7 ай бұрын

@@matthewensign9683the first 2 albums and b side album were awesome everyone in the uk listened to oasis dressed like oasis drank oasis and went to oasis gigs but the 3rd album was shit maybe they should’ve kept the bsides for that but the never released another album in the 90s and by the time they released stuff it was 2000 the scene had changed dance music was back it sucked in 99 ocs played Stirling castle to 30000 by 2000 they were back playing in front of 2000 folk! Cast, the verve both broke up

@thestorm5735

7 ай бұрын

​@francisbrodie9140 the 3rd album is great in its own coke-up way, it's on the 4th where things got kinda meh

@marshallgibson8872

7 ай бұрын

Kurt never got high off his own farts. I don't think they play nirvana at Barnes and Nobel either.

Gallagher is absolutely correct!!

@DEATHWillTAKETHEPAINAWAY

2 ай бұрын

No he’s not

I think that being in touch with sadness and grief is different from negativity. You can choose to be negative about literally anything: Christmas, School, Love, Work, etc. Blind positivity is foolish but someone who can feel the full range of emotions and still develop as a person is unstoppable.

Straight off the bat, that’s Liam in the first shot

When I think of positivity, Oasis is not the first band that comes to mind. They seem like quite miserable lads.

@FilaMila-wc4iw

5 ай бұрын

However, whenever I think of misery, it's Oasis that comes first to mind

@liamw6562

5 ай бұрын

Have you never listened to, I don’t know, there first two albums? Not a single song is about misery

@djf817

5 ай бұрын

​@@liamw6562yeah just overrated Brit pop.

@benedwards4495

5 ай бұрын

@@liamw6562tbf if you look at the lyrics on songs like some might say, cast no shadow and hey now they are very negative. The songs just sound positive in how they’re played

@catrocastre8215

3 ай бұрын

Yup, great messages, but controversial dudes, always some drama.

He is right. It’s a stupid line to title a song.

I grew up with Nirvana and Oasis - I was a teen when both groups hit the scene. I’m 51 now and blessed to have been around in those days when music was awesome. I got nothing bad to say about Nirvana or Oasis.

Artists are not responsible for the mental health of their fans. If their fans are depressed, they’re not going to suddenly feel happy if their favorite band starts singing about butterflies and rainbows. They’ll probably seek out different musicians at that point.

1) it was meant as a joke bc Kurt was tired of everyone saying he was some depressed, gloomy person. 2) if anyone cares to actually look into it, the evidence strongly suggests he was, in fact, murdered. I used to think that the whole “Kurt was killed” crowd were delusional. But then I took a honest look into what the evidence was and I came to the conclusion that Kurt was a victim of foul play. There are just way too many pieces of evidence that don’t point to suicide as the cause of death. Most recently some info from his autopsy was leaked. Kurt apparently had a substantial gash in his leg. How did that happen! Could it have been resulting from a struggle?

@garretttracy1839

7 ай бұрын

They said with the amount of herion and Valium in his blood (from the root beer that someone laced!) he was so high he was physically incapable of holding the shotgun up to his mouth. Plus they said they measured his arms and the length of the gun and said his arms were too short to pull the trigger holding it to his mouth he just couldn’t reach. He was definitely a victim, look up the videos of the guy who said who killed him, they found him 8 days later with his head cut off in a train yard. His apparent cause of death was being hit by the train and it killed him don’t really see how that decapitates you.

@andrewbroughton65

7 ай бұрын

Courtney instigated it..there's a doco on KZread by the Detective She hired when they couldn't find Kurt..He recorded all Her phone calls -unbeknownst to Her- & He examines Her lies...She should be incarcerated.

@andrepereira744

7 ай бұрын

you're both crazy

@denisefrontino1101

7 ай бұрын

Or being drug across somewhere to GET HIM TO the greenhouse??? Ya never know...will be thrilled to find out that particular info 🌼

@user-db5yt5mh9n

7 ай бұрын

Gash on leg could be from the backfire from the shotgun rip kurtd❤

firstly, that song wasn't a hit. also, he meant it as a joke

@sorryimsosad

7 ай бұрын

It was so untrue he attempted suicide and then actually committed to it. Guess he was really serious about his irony. “See guys I’m dead now just for the bit”

@lawnmowerman7

7 ай бұрын

@@sorryimsosad he got more depressed after he wrote it. It was meant to be a reference to how people perceived him. This is what he, himself said, anyway

Noel was being a mature adult here He knew kids would get influenced by stuff like this and he didn’t want that that’s why his music was often happier

Music should express every emotion not just happy because “sad bad” that’s a given, grunge was about expressing feeling one way, indie was about feeling another way that’s all

I’m a huge fan of both Nirvana and Oasis. Noel is right and wrong about Kurt’s music being a form of “glamorized self pity.” Noel is right because even though both men-including Liam- experienced tough childhoods, they rose from the dirt and grime. Now Kurt, like Noel and Liam, has the chance to provide hope to others who are imprisoned in similar situations-especially my generation who grew up on Nirvana and Oasis. On the flip side, Noel should practice compassion and open mindedness towards Kurt. He never asked to be the spokesperson for a generation because he knew he was just a normal person. Kurt does good, makes mistakes, he wanted to be 100% authentic and genuine, I believe, in his imperfection. But people were so caught up in the media presentation that Kurt’s words never affected them. Plus, we all respond differently toward difficulties, drugs, anything. And how can Noel toss stones at Kurt when he’s not perfect himself. He has a brother, something Kurt mentions “I wish I had”, sister rather (sorry). Noel and Liam always have knockdown dragouts, verbally or physically. On the other hand, Kurt had Courtney (geez, she’s a comforting poison. Maybe not the best example), but he had his bandmates who sincerely loved him. Yet this topic is a “you say ‘tomoto’ I say ‘tomato’ “ Honestly, I’m not tossing my own stones at either person. Just saying maybe Noel should practice a little compassion. Sometimes people who suffer need another person who suffers in order to heal. A positive person bearing a positive message, though logical, can be dangerous. Weird as it sounds. This is a very philosophical topic for me. Anyway, love both to Nirvana and Oasis. Good guys n good music ❤️❤️

@lisaparsons4124

6 ай бұрын

Kurt Cobain a awesome singer that I remember in 1990, when I was 23.I also remember that song I hate myself and want to die,was a joke.May Kurt Cobain RIP 💐🙏

It’s absolutely true, and even nowadays largely thanks to him self pity and negativity is seen as cool. Not good

Art can often be a response to other art. We’re all in a bigger conversation playing to the great chord underneath it all.

"As much as i liked him" Noel just didn't like the title of the song. He said multiple times that he liked cobain and his songwriting. Kurt was depressed, noel wasn't. So obviously noels isnt going to like it. Slide away is a banger of a song that noel written when he was down. It was just about the title nothing else.

People really can't stand kurt cobain or his music being criticized for some reason, it's weird. It's like they think he's holy or something.

@Kingofthekop1

6 ай бұрын

Huge Nirvana fan but i agree, Most nirvana fans are insufferable.

@brianj4201

5 ай бұрын

The issue is that Noel is a git. If he was actually saying something of importance it would be a different story.

Eliciting a response, even one of disdain, is art. Cobain was a genuine Rembrandt of his time. Oasis drives on Nirvana's roads.

Live forever is such an amazing song

I think in the younger years the duality of the messages is important to hear as you experience life. You go through angst and all sorts of things and hearing music that you can identify with, have a catharsis with, is important but so is the music that helps to lighten the heart and that maybe tomorrow will be a better day.

I don't give a s... Noel just wanna send a positive message. It's not a relevant point of view that "Oh Kurt was a funny and sarcastic person" Fack it! How is a person who, let's say, listens to it for the first time in his/her life knows, and let's say he takes it seriously? RIP Layne Staley 🕊️ had saying that he really regretted writing so many negative, sad and generally drug-ridden songs. Because he realized that he could do it as an artist and then he would be honest and free...at the same time, it's a fact that he is responsible for the mood of hundreds of thousand or millions of people! It is not possible, and imo, childish to blame everything on sarcasm, especially written words. Face to face is different. In a conversation, you notice from emphasis or mimicry, but I don't think that's right in this form. RIP Kurt 🕊️ I love his artwork btw. This is mostly for blind and young fans, who's defend it all costs with such a ridiculous response: "but that's just irony, you know, he was a funny, sarcastic person, blah-blah..." ✌🏻&💜

Noel is the best songwriter of our generation, he was right and live forever is a masterpiece

I’m actually impressed he even knew that song. Yea Kurt said it was a joke but that’s not easy to say after what happened.

Video is about Noel Video shows Liam Also, Live Forever is primarily about their Mom.

#1 reason why I prefer Oasis to Nirvana

Who care what Noel thinks? Kurt had serious drug, pain, depression and ADHD issues which he would never understand. Kurt was speaking his truth, and it’s not for Noel to tell his what to say.

@HarleyMM1328

7 ай бұрын

can say the same for Kurt tho. i love nirvana but jesus christ most of their stuff is depressing. not bad for Noel to want to put out an uplifting tune to have people feel good.

@rmv9194

7 ай бұрын

He had great aim tho!

Respect for Cobain, so sad he ended dead. And respect for Noel for overcoming his rough life

This is definitely a nuanced situation imo. What should matter the most is how certain topics should be approached.

Agree with Noel. Music is meant to give you a boost and a spring in your step, not feeling like your in a cold dark room

@billybats4745

6 ай бұрын

It's all subjective man. It's not so black and white

@Last_Chancers_Karaoke

2 ай бұрын

There is no saying what music is supposed to be. It means different things to every single walk of life.

Two things can be true at once. There's an audience for everything.

I can respect his stance about not glamorizing self pity. Pretty interesting. Something I need to work on myself

Yes. Gallagher was right and still alive. Kurt killed himself. Point made.

Who’s Nearvana?

@LarsonPetty

7 ай бұрын

That would be a hell of a good name for a Nirvana tribute band.

Who ever you are stay Who you are.

I really like both Nirvana and Oasis. I think that some people need sometimes hear happy songs and sometimes some darker. People are different, listen different music and that's okay. Noel of course had right to tell his opinion, but Kurt also had right to write these kind of songs. And I aprecciate comments where is explained meaning of the song. :-)

That tune was a clear Signal of mental conditio of kurt with the hindsight, i like nirvana and oasis but there’s a difference, one were artists and the others good story tellers

So many bands were making music to respond to Nirvana at that time. What an impact, for the good and the bad.

Kurts honesty is what set him apart. I MEAN who is this guy anyhow? Oasis is that a bar or an island? Oh my wife it's a band. Never heard of him. So yea I'm on Kurt's side not jealous guy.

Great song

We needed to hear both messages tbh ☯️

I Hate Myself and Want to Die was Nirvana’s song on the soundtrack for the movie, Beavis and Butthead. Decent soundtrack. If anyone actually needed to know this…

First of all: Great to put up that question even - interesting thought! My opinion: I think both ways might have there points. Actually, it is - in both cases - a bit of a "shortened clichee" of course. Cobain might carry the "depressed" image and all - but might not have been depressed literally all the time, I guess. While Oasis might have been standing for a more "uplifting" / self-confident image - and still are likely to having had their "down" times as well - because we all do. So, in a way: At the end of the day, each of the phrases ( song titles ) was just a bit of "give the media / the fans what they wanna hear..." Or: "Let's feed the image". Meaning: Let's make money. Personally however: I can relate more to Noel's view ( even if it might also be a bit of clichee "feeding" to some extend ). I think it's the view of the world that's just more healthy ;) Musically, I dig em both - top notch, both Nirvana and Oasis! 🤘🏻🎸

“Leave Forever” doesn’t exactly radiate positivity

@ye6973

2 ай бұрын

lol they couldn’t even pronounce the song name properly for a short

I’ve said this for years! As a Nirvana fan, now that I’m older I kind of think that negative music and story surrounding the band fed into my sadness and depression. I wonder had I found a different band with a more positive outlook/story would I have maybe chosen happiness sooner? Who knows 🤷🏼

Nirvana saved my life. Screaming Kurts music was somewhat catharctic during a real low suicidal thoughts.

Oasis don't want to die but his sound will fade away. While Nirvana want to die but his sounds have never die

The song I hate myself and want to die was a joke.Kurt Cobain was a awesome singer, and sad he passed away in1994, back when I was 27.May kurt Cobain RIP 💐🙏

Music fits everyones mood and everyones stories. Thats how i see it we all have a song we can relate to. We all have our mood music. I used to wake up to Oasis every single day. As i kept sleeping through alarm clocks so i bought this Stereo system that you could set the alarm and it would play what ever cd or radio station etc you wanted. And i used to have the volime up a bit to make sure it got me up. Oasis brings back alot of memories.

Damn and he did it, honest lyrics,poor Kurt, people still think fame is happiness,many examples of that not always being the case

Music Means different things to everyone and Writing as well goes in that category. I don’t personally like the title myself but it’s Kurt’s way of expressing himself at the time and who am I to tell someone what to Title their own songs it means something different to all of us. Live Forever definitely one of my favourite oasis songs one of Noel’s best pieces. I didn’t think that song was a hit? Maybe just a topic of discussion because of the title. Both great Musicians Who have impacted many.

I'm with Noel...."Get off the floor and believe in life/No-one's ever ever gonna ask you twice."

'You and I are gonna leave forever!'