The last ''high-end'' that made sense price-wise was 1080 Ti.

@tek1645

4 ай бұрын

3080 was pretty good, if mining and covid didn't happen

@veilmontTV

4 ай бұрын

You're just cheap and got used to pc parts at their cheapest ever. It's not even close to the 90s and early 2000s.

@h1tzzYT

4 ай бұрын

Guy literally picked an outlier and said "the last high end that made sense", bro...

@veilmontTV

4 ай бұрын

@@h1tzzYT 4090 has better performance per dollar than the 4080 so he's wrong in current time

@realnamesnotgiven6193

4 ай бұрын

I got a 1080ti used recently, it still kicks butt.

Historically, I've always preferred Nvidia cards. My very first graphics card was an EVGA 8600 GTS. But their x80 cards are costing more than Titans used to. I went with an AMD 7900xt this generation and if they keep their pricing scheme, I'll likely never get another Nvidia card.

@ofon2000

4 ай бұрын

I totally would have gone with a 7900 xt this generation if their idle power draw wasn't out of wack

@accuratemrstuff3842

4 ай бұрын

this is very true nvidia has not looked very appealing lately, and i have had a 3070 for a couple years now, i actually tried to buy a 7900xt because it was on sale on amazon for $518 for like less than a day, but my order was cancelled twice because amazon claimed it was likely a scam or something lmao, so im just gonna stick with my 3070 for the time being, but will probably get AMD in the future when i upgrade

@HankBaxter

4 ай бұрын

If you have a Microcenter near you, definitely check it out for deals. I got a 7900XTX 6 months ago open box for 800.

@clockworklegionaire2135

3 ай бұрын

What are you talking about? Look at the 3090 2080 ti Titan xp pricing and thats before accounting inflation 🙄

you cant trick my wallet. i can either afford it or i cant

"Mo' Money, Mo' Problems." Also "No Money, Mo' Problems." 😁

@billytk1225

4 ай бұрын

Right, but keep buying from nVidia and you will quickly be in the "No Money, Mo' Problems" part of the pool. lol

$1500 On a phone is fine though😂

@DannyzReviews

4 ай бұрын

tbh, I don't mind dropping money for a GPU, because I'll use it everyday extensively. Whereas for a smartphone, I just use it for basic tasks calling, texting, streaming music/video or browsing social media. You really don't need a $1000 phone for that. I payed just $100 for a Galaxy S20FE back in 2021, and it is still going strong

@Stock--Rosso

4 ай бұрын

@@DannyzReviews Agreed👍🏼

@billytk1225

4 ай бұрын

$1500 for a phone isn't fine for most - again it's the sheep with FOMO that have to have each and every new phone from Apple when it comes out.

@veilmontTV

4 ай бұрын

​@billytk1225 most have the 600 to 800 dollar apple or Android products. Fuck me for spending 1500 on something I'll get thousands of hours of entertainment from in the two years I'll have it

@doublecrossedswine112

4 ай бұрын

@@veilmontTV I'll let nvidia keep fucking you. We can play everything we want just fine with these peasant gpu's we buy. No getting fucked necessary.

Will these new graphics cards lead to photorealistic VR gaming? Or even better Multiplayer Roleplaying VR games.

remember when the 80 cards were considered expensive on 800 $

Nice, but my current GPU will do until what's coming next (aka: RDNA 5, Blackwell Next)... and my next purchase (in 2025) is going to be a new display OLED, or something (more choices by that time). Besides, I'm also more interested in ZEN 6 or Panther Lake, than ZEN 5 or Nova Lake (both in the end of 2026 along side with RDNA 5 / Blackwell next)

with fsr3 frame gen available easily for rtx users whats the point of a new card yet.

@clockworklegionaire2135

3 ай бұрын

Maybe some people want better upscaling, ray tracing performance, frame gen and productivity?

@cmoneytheman

3 ай бұрын

@@clockworklegionaire2135 obviously that dude is slow or just trolling same reason I upgraded to a Monster 4070 and maybe will sell it when the 5070 comes for faster render when upscaling

@abraham9301

2 ай бұрын

@@cmoneytheman the 4070 isn't a "monster" 🤣😭😢

@cmoneytheman

2 ай бұрын

@@abraham9301 runs mutiple games using high settings on 1440 and destroys 1080🤣😭🥲

Im gonna still be happy with my 3080🎊

Yeah, totally agree about hardware requirements for 1080p. I'm running an i3-12100F / 3060 12GB rig and as much as I'd like to upgrade, every game runs fine at HIGH settings and many can even run at Ultra settings with RT above 60fps (e.g. Spider-man & Miles Morales). In a minority of games, a bit of DLSS solves the problem (e.g. Alan Wake, Cyberpunk, Hogwarts) So while I keep thirsting to upgrade to an i7-14700 or 4070 Super, it's hard to pull the trigger when the higher FPS doesn't change the game experience I'm having now. To add insult to injury, I have a 4K 52-inch monitor in the living room. The 1080p up-rezzed by the monitor to 4k looks great. My only reason to upgrade isn't resolution, it's just my ego ...

I don’t want to buy a Ferrari, I just want a Honda

@arenzricodexd4409

4 ай бұрын

and there is tons of honda or toyota out there. the only problem i see is people want those ferrari to have honda price.

@HankBaxter

4 ай бұрын

A Honda NSX basically is a reliable Ferrari.

@Manicfuguestate

4 ай бұрын

@@HankBaxter but it has no where near the performance of a Ferrari.

@carrickdubya4765

3 ай бұрын

@@Manicfuguestate Just get the best Tesla that does 0-60 in 1.9 seconds. I do not like the styling, but it's the best performance value.

Doesn't matter to me, I only spend 200 to 300 on a GPU. If I can't game on that amount I don't need to be gaming.

@lostinseganet

4 ай бұрын

Ya gonna need more beef than that for VR...

@csh9853

4 ай бұрын

@@lostinseganet I don't play with vr.

@lostinseganet

4 ай бұрын

@@csh9853 You should consider it. The experience is like going from dial up to broadband. Its the next step in gaming or those glassless 3D monitors...

@Noqtis

3 ай бұрын

You will save a lot of money when you buy into VR when it actually becomes relevant. For now it's just a gimmick

@spacii112

3 ай бұрын

@@Noqtis Vr stopped being a gimmick 8 yrs ago with the oculus rift.

Glad someone figured it out that its a business trend that I noticed that they dont want to sell low end cards anymore. the big power difference between each model from mid tier vs high end is massive.

As much as everyone loves to fantasize about having a 4090, it’s just not necessary for the majority of gamers. Especially considering that 1080p and 1440p are the two most popular resolutions

@eggsdooley

4 ай бұрын

It’s lovely for Microsoft Flight Simulator, DCS, Alan Wake 2, Baldur’s Gate, Cyberpunk, Starfield and on and on. So yeh, totally useless.

@akumuryuuzaki5992

4 ай бұрын

@@eggsdooleyNot a single soul said it’s useless

@eggsdooley

3 ай бұрын

Thank you for your service.

@clockworklegionaire2135

3 ай бұрын

Who cares what's popular? If I can afford the finer things like 4k ray tracing above 120 and fast ai training for my stable diffusion needs ill grab a damn 4090 and a A6000

@eggsdooley

3 ай бұрын

@@akumuryuuzaki5992”not necessary” is the same as being without use to those people, therefore useless. Having no use. It’s not complicated.

Shows a picture of shrinkflation and the smaller box being 70g more is just hilarious to me for some reason

GDDR7 starts with 32Gbps as the minimum specification. Nvidia using 28Gbps would be underclocking the memory. The primary advantage to this would be in cost. While Nvidia would have to pay full price for 32Gbps memory, the traces on the board only have to support 28Gbps which is cheaper. There should also be a power reduction, but it will be minimal. Even across a 384b memory bus at the same watts per bit as GDDR6X it’s only an 11 watt reduction in power. I would expect GDDR7 to reduce watts per bit, which would reduce the power savings further. In terms of memory configuration I could see Nvidia giving GBn02 512 bit memory bus for the sole purpose of 32GB of VRAM. With that much VRAM Nvidia could spike the prices even higher than if they remain with 24GB as the workstation and AI crowd want more vram. 384B 36GB is probably Nvidia preferred memory capacity, but 3GB memory modules won’t be ready in time according to MLID. The flip-flopping between the 2 bus widths would be competing designs that Nvidia has internally, but I would expect one to have been chosen by now so it’s pretty weird.

a node shrink and faster memory doesn't warrant higher cost. By that logic, technology over the decades should have gotten more expensive with every successive performance jump. Stop spouting the "new normal" nonsense they've successfully conditioned you all with.

They'll probably lock 40 series and older out from new 50 series features like they did with the 30 series.

Hey Ive been watching your stuff on YT for a fair while, I was wondering if you plan on hiring a video editor anytime soon? (Ps Im not a bot just a fan of your content lol)

isn't '70-class' cards supposed to come with a 256-bit bus?

@frowningboat8039

4 ай бұрын

Unlikely that it'll be 256 bit, but they'd be stupid to release it with only 12GB of ram after all the backlash to the 4060 ti and 4070 not having enough ram. 18GB should be okay though.

@elmariachi5133

4 ай бұрын

70 class is supposed to deliver about 85% of the fastest single die GPU's performance at an affordable price of about 350$, 400$ including inflation. nvidia made people forget ..

@corndog9482

4 ай бұрын

@@elmariachi5133 it's silly how fast people have been reconditioned.

@elmariachi5133

4 ай бұрын

@@corndog9482 Yes, silly, but also fearsome. Thinking that people behave like this in any area of lilfe, as this is due to a basic instinct, which you can usually see, when their best 'argument' is like: 'It has been like this for years now!', which obviously means nothing.

@corndog9482

4 ай бұрын

@@elmariachi5133 "It has been like this for years now!" to most people, somehow, that makes 'it' (whatever it is they're referring to) "right" - a logical fallacy. I have a hard time believing that's human nature/basic instinct. Mostly because, then, that makes people like us "abnormal"....

They screwed over every 3090 owner by making Frame Gen exclusive to 40 series. I am just waiting to see how they screw me for sticking with my 4090.

Im rocking a RX 6600xt and its jst fine for my 1080p gaming! I doubt ill upgrade for quite some time, my desktop really is an upgrade from my previous gaming setup...a laptop with a 2GB 940MX graphics card...ive gone from playing at 720 30fps to 1080p 120fps, night and day! Id love a 4090 tho...

@watchout5508

4 ай бұрын

@JayPlaylists bro my internet barely handles youtube, so no i dont like online play. Its just the best i could afford at the time, I'd love to upgrade to 4K... but at that point I'd much rather get a Oled monitor

50 series powered by BW, not that BW 1x and 2x reticle limit BUT as I suggested a year ago Ada mobile design generation appears to be swinging back to a desktop design generation that is some form of BW. mb

also I played Helldrivers and Palworld the most this year so...

The latest high-end makes sense!

@8:56 if AMD had combined 2 gpu's into one using their fast tech. Nvidia would have had a reason to look over their shoulder in the raster gamming battlefield.

I normally buy used at the beginning of the new series of graphic cards. So a used 4080 or 4090 at a good price is my go to. Still rocking a 3080ti at 1440p and its amazing.

@irulannaba6970

4 ай бұрын

You ain't getting a good priced 4080 and 4090 lest the 6000 series came out. 4080 and 4090 is just too good and too expensive of a card for the owner to just sell them at a "good" Price

@cmoneytheman

4 ай бұрын

@@irulannaba6970he can get 1 used at a good price when the new cards come so ur wrong

Nvidia is crazy but I can't see them increasing the price of the xx90 segment that much.. the 3090 to the 4090 was a 100$ bump, there is no way the 5090 will be 500-600 more expensive, seriously, they had so many problems with pricing this gen, the 4080 especially, I can't believe the 5080 will cost 1600 like the 4090

I agree with most of what you said, but 60fps is not good enough anymore. Once you get that taste of 90-120fps and above, you just can't go back.

@arenzricodexd4409

4 ай бұрын

tried myself to see how good those 144fps are in the end find out that anything above 60 is totally fine. there is this slight improvement in smoothness but it is not as drastic as it was with 30 vs 60 FPS. for majority of gamer out there 60 should be fine for them.

@Timithori

4 ай бұрын

@@arenzricodexd4409 I will say most players are console players and don't know what anything beyond 60fps is, so for them it might be fine. Going from 60 to 120 as a PC gamer is pretty drastic and feels incredible.

@arenzricodexd4409

4 ай бұрын

@@Timithori already did it with 1080p 144hz. now i had 1440p 165hz. my advice to people is just stick to 60FPS+. do not obsessed with 100FPS+. fine to have but it is not a must have like some people like to portrait it. it is "incredible" to see those high FPS. but then just disable those FPS counter. most people will not going to feel the difference like 80FPS and 120FPS or even 160 FPS.

@letsplayskyrimle9391

4 ай бұрын

​@@Timithori Yes, there is a difference between 60FPS and 120FPS in very fast action games. However, in RPG-type games (Skyrim, Fallout 4, Starfield, Witcher 3, Cyberpunk 2077, ...), from 60FPS onwards, what matters most is the size of the monitor and the resolution. The bigger, the better! And I know what I'm talking about. I have a 24” 1080p monitor at home that runs at 144Hz, where I can play any game at more than 100FPS (I have an RTX 4090), with the V-Sync on. And, guess what? I always preferred to play my games on my old and faithful Philips 40BDM65UC, a 40” 4K monitor, which only worked at 60Hz, with the V-Sync option always active, to guarantee a smooth moving image, something that, as you know, limits the number of frames in games to 60FPS with 60Hz monitors. About 5 months ago, I replaced this old Philips VA monitor with an OLED, an LG 42C3, not because the latter can work at 120Hz, and so I can now have more FPS in games if I have V-Sycn on, but because OLED technology generally guarantees better image quality than a VA or an IPS. The resolution and quality of the image and its size are for me the fundamental thing in my games, as they guarantee me a better immersion in those same games, than going from 60FPs to 120 or more FPS played on a small monitor and with a resolution low.

@elmariachi5133

4 ай бұрын

LTT's test once has impressivley shown, that while gamers are not able to consciously distuingish anything above 60fps, they can in average perform better in online shooters with higher refresh rates/fps. So it's easy: Singleplayers don't need more than 60fps.

I still waited for low end desktop gpu rtx 4050 to be released, it seem great for casual content creator stuff.

NVIDIA stayed on custom TSMC 4NP for better profit margins because it's an older node, and Apple is still on the N3 node family. Jensen Huang will have a new feature for RTX 5000 series to sell it to consumers. It's possible that Blackwell gaming will be a heavily revised architecture, so the next flagship could be much faster and more efficient. The more efficient RTX 5080 might blow out the RTX 4090 in a few specific ray-tracing and/or DLSS benchmarks. Next, the RTX 5090 would leave the RTX 4090 in the dust and could set up NVIDIA for the return of the Titan.

@carrickdubya4765

3 ай бұрын

Yes but if it is the same price then how is it better?!?

@worldtownfc

3 ай бұрын

@@carrickdubya4765 If the card is the same price, then more performance or more efficiency would make the next gen card better. Unfortunately, NVIDIA would not provide more performance-per-dollar unless they were forced to by AMD or Intel.

Bought a 4090… had buyers remorse at first but for performance wise it’s pretty good. And these days it’s not a big push really go any higher. I came from a 1080ti rebuilt a whole new system November 2022 had my last from 2017. See how I feel in 2027. Im not huge into gaming as much these last few years due me being a father/working.

Upselling worked for the 40 series so Nvidia will for sure do the same for the 50 as well.

@ofon2000

4 ай бұрын

they were still profitable...but revenue went down considerably in the gaming sector.

@arenzricodexd4409

4 ай бұрын

@@ofon2000 did you look nvidia past 4 quarters gaming revenue? sure it is less than what they got when compared to crypto season but a freaking 2.9 billion without any mining boosting the sales? that is nvidia highest gaming revenue for the entire 30 years of their existence.

@HectorDomino.

4 ай бұрын

Nice prof pic...

@Mattribute

4 ай бұрын

@@arenzricodexd4409AI boom

@Noqtis

3 ай бұрын

nVidia stopped selling so many GPUs because it has become so easy to make them yourself.

I do buy their high end, but I never spend more/year. Just put an amount aside each year and after a few years you can buy something nice.

50 series gonna be real expensive i can see that .maybe $2,500

marketing strategy always dirty just like that

Nvidia does consider Radeon as competition: They would otherwise not have released the Super cards, and note that Blackwell refresh will be competing with RDNA5 and potentially losing, which Nvidia never wants.

Give VR attention in your analysis. Beefy GPUs are needed.

Quick question to help cure my ignorance: What are the challenges or downsides to having a bigger memory bus? Like, why wouldn't you want a 512-bit memory bus and why hasn't it been done before?

@zodwraith5745

4 ай бұрын

Cost and space taken on the die. To address a wider "path" to the memory you have to dedicate more die space to it that could be used for other benefits or cost cutting. Die space is precious and expensive.

@ClearAlera

4 ай бұрын

@@zodwraith5745 Appreciate it, thanks.

Well done Nvidia, you made a masarati for going to the supermarket shopping trip

i feel This 50 series GDDR7 will having a big jump upgrade that's why im hesitating to buy 40 series

@masteroak9724

4 ай бұрын

Doubt it. The performance uplift between GDDR generations weren't anything major from the get go outside synthetic benchmark, like never. Take for example the 1650 that have both GDDR5 and GDDR6 variants, it wasn't more than 5~10 fps more due to the memory type alone. If your only concern is the GDDR6X vs GDDR7, I wouldn't take that into consideration. The only uplifit will be due the GPU itself and we have no way to know how much.

@erikbritz8095

4 ай бұрын

Im buying a used 30 series to stop gap till 50 series comes.

@magnomliman8114

4 ай бұрын

​@@masteroak9724 moore's law is dead youtube channel said the 5090 well be 50% to 70% stronger then the 4090 and hes leak accuracy is extremely high.

I might hold out till my pc can't run new games. I can run everything pretty well on what i have.

Had a high end rig, but had just as much fun playing on my switch, a handheld, or a optiplex project pc. which proved to me... I don't really care about that stuff. If I can play the game and it's fun that's all that matters

They didn't have to go this hard, but they went ALL out and made Blackwell a whopping _30x_ more powerful. That's with the fact NOTHING comes close to their current generation on Hopper. This gives me "hope" for the 5090 multi DIE design that will be cheaper and more powerful. Possibly 100% over ADA.

True, Nvidia doesn't consider Radeon as competition anymore, they stopped caring two decades ago.

RTX 5080 I'm waiting for you my dream! I'll get you soon!

@stanislavkimov2779

4 ай бұрын

If it's 1000$ at max, and not cut on VRAM and memory bus, then may be. Otherwise I'd go with 8900 or 8800 XT.

@gamingcomputers7485

4 ай бұрын

@@stanislavkimov2779 i heard there are rumors of amd selling their best card around the 500$ and offer 7900 xtx if yes then im all for it.

@10percent4DaBigGuy

4 ай бұрын

its already old tech! you might as well wait 3 generations!

Like you said… im happy with the 40 series preformance. The only thing that would get me to upgrade to 50 series is more vram… gimme a 5080 with 24gb or a 5090 with 32-40gb and I would pay up (1200 and 1700) anything less or more in $ and ill stick with the 4090

I didn’t even have to watch the video the title is just accurate but I’ll listen anyway

Well... If the RTX 5060 is less than 40% faster than the 4060 i think im skipping next RTX generation, we will see... But i dont think Nvidia will do a Pascal or Turing again.

Nvidia's data centre Blackwell chips are on TSMC 4NP. Not to be confused with N4P. I am surprised it is not 3nm. Nvidia definitely could have used 3nm if they really wanted to. Nvidia's AI accelerators use an MCM design, which allows them to cram in a tonne more transistors without upgrading to a whole new node. TSMC 4NP is a slightly more enhanced version of the custom 4N node used for Hopper and Lovelace. Nvidia's Blackwell gaming GPUs are unlikely to be MCM because effectively rendering game performance across multiple chiplets is very tough considering an MCM design introduces a latency penalty, and low latency is critical for real time applications such as video games, so MCM isn't a viable option for gaming yet, but for AI workloads, it doesn't matter as much. I think they will struggle to fit a tonne more transistors on their gaming GPUs, which will very likely remain monolithic without using TSMC 3nm. Leaks are saying the 50 Series will use the same 4NP node as the data centre chips, so I don't think RTX 50 will be a massive performance increase over RTX 40 due to not being on 3nm.

@ofon2000

4 ай бұрын

bullshit...top end Blackwell consumer chips (5090 and 5080) will definitely be using 3 nm. It's the rest of the lineup that is more mainstream in price that nobody knows about in terms of which node they'll be using.

@Gamer-q7v

4 ай бұрын

@@ofon2000 I would much rather they use TSMC 3nm for the RTX 50 Series. Will have to wait and see. The reason why I mentioned this is because most of the latest leaks are now saying the 50 Series, including the 5090 and 5080, will be fabricated on the same 4NP node as the data centre chips. Like I said, I would definitely prefer if the 50 Series is on 3nm because there will be much bigger performance increases then.

@dex6316

4 ай бұрын

@@ofon2000there is basically 0 chance that high-end Blackwell uses N3 when the data center variants (which is where the money is) don’t use N3.

@ofon2000

4 ай бұрын

@@dex6316 So where do you think all the 3 nm capacity is going to? The high end from Nvidia will be N3 for consumer grade chips...just watch.

@ofon2000

4 ай бұрын

@@Gamer-q7v I believe the reason why the datacenter stuff is being fabricated on the 4NP or N4P node (whatever it is) is to be able to fulfill the orders from their commercial customers as well as to have higher profit margins.

Now the power supplies are going to cost an arm and a leg for sure.

good video. Hope lots watch it.

for cibersport need delay they can make super minimal delay!!!! for me its 5050ti or 5060 no more )) and for 5-10 year ))

I was going to buy a 50 series but now i will wait to see what ps6 will do excited for ps6

I hate how nvidia is making the midend less valuable relative to the flagships(price per performance and efficiency) while in reality the mid end is supposed to be the best value, since there the rest of the hardware isn't to much of the price, as well as that it isn't the highest end niche. but we knew this when they started to sell the rtx 3080 as a rtx3090, rtx 3070 as a rtx3080,rtx 3060 as a rtx3070, rtx 3050 as a rtx3060

Danny you play on a flat screen pancake screen, you are more than fine with a 4090.. The people who make sense to get a 5090 are playing in glasses free 3D screens that require double the performance for half/each eye that is quiet demanding. Other uses would be VR with the new marvel mod UEVR

Ngreedia won't break me, I choose value I bought my RX 6800 last year for AUD$525. Ex mining GPU as well that replaced my 1080ti the GOAT.

'Leaks' these days are mostly company-tailored rumors to sway opinion before the product is released. Nvidia is probably worried about rx8xxx figures after the PS5pro leaks and wants people to wait in case rdna 4 touches the 4090, which is pretty plausible if the rt numbers are true. Also, dotn forget the 4090 was to be "2.5X the 3090" too😂

@arenzricodexd4409

4 ай бұрын

i don't think nvidia worried about what AMD do that much. both of them manufacture their GPU at TSMC and nvidia have engineer working on permanent basis at TSMC since 40nm fiasco that happen to them roughly 15 years ago. if they want to know what AMD do they probably can get sneak peak at it at TSMC haha. and for nvidia own sakes it is better for them if AMD is a bit more competitive. nvidia probably more worried about dominating 80% of discrete GPU market and 94% the laptop market for themselves right now.

@le.l5975

4 ай бұрын

What do the leaks about rx8000 say? I must have missed them

@ZackSNetwork

3 ай бұрын

The PS5 Pro is as fast as a RX 7700 in rasterization performance. In other words it’s slower than a RX 6800. Raytracing should be as good as a 3070ti though. The CPU is also exactly the same as the PS5 as well.

cant do, my 850w PS can't handle this thing 5090 for sure.

As long as I have the money, I upgrade. Better performance is always fun to have. But when I don't have it. I chill. There is more to life than pc gaming.

I still at 1070 :) ...

@mitu123Copper

4 ай бұрын

Same, but that will change for me once RDNA 4/Blackwell comes out.

If the 5080 only has 16HB of memory and comes in over $1K the card will be more of a joke than the 4080 at $1200. If the 5090 is over $2K they won't have the number of customers *IN THE GAMING MARKET* who actually have the money for it. Performance might be great, but I can see the price and VRAM being a big, big problem.

My current 4090 is running fine, don't see a reason to upgrade.

@DETERMINOLOGY

4 ай бұрын

Someone gets it, If you own a 4090 there's really no need to spend up north of 2k to get a 5090 unless you like to burn money and i can see the 5090 being 2,200$ or so as i dont think its going to be a even 2k The performance between the 4090 and 5090 wont be worth it either but you know how FOMO works = "Fear Of Missing Out" which its not going to be much

@kvu236

4 ай бұрын

i think its like gtx 1080ti due to the vram alone plus i expect it will last longer as long as you dont push 4k or higher.

@DETERMINOLOGY

4 ай бұрын

@@kvu236 the 1080 ti wasn’t that much better then the 1080 that’s how I feel the 5090 will be from the 4090 and the 4090 can do 4k nicely and still will be able to for some time. People will make it seem like it’s garbage tho because the 5090 will be out and again the card won’t be that much up in specs over a 4090.

70% raster is still a big deal knowing that the 4090 falls to its knees on next gen games like alan wake 2 and cyberpunk. 70% raster won't even get us 240hz maxed out in 4k with latest gen graphics

@arenzricodexd4409

4 ай бұрын

and no one needs that. heck majority of gamer did not even need 240hz even on 1080p monitor.

@irulannaba6970

4 ай бұрын

Unless it's a competitive title 200+ fps is just a waste

@raynathanielcaparas8064

4 ай бұрын

@@irulannaba6970 it's usually marketed for people who plays rpg and wants the best fidelity in 4k, and makes the experience better with oled panels

@Loky_8

3 ай бұрын

4090 can play them games just fine granted dlss I needed etc but still very playable. I'm currently playing cyberpunk 2077 and get around 100 fps at 4k dlss balanced with frame gen. (Path tracing)

@ZackSNetwork

3 ай бұрын

@@Loky_8DLSS balance is garbage though. Only DLSS quality is amazing.

And there's lots of games like cult Of the lamb that's locked in the 60 frames per second.

Very few people care about the 5090 (except content creators and all who need it for an AI). The majority of people (playing at 1440p and 4K) will be more than happy with the ~$600 5070 that should perform like the 4080. As for 1080p gaming the 5060 with 12-16GB as fast as the 4070 should be also more than enough. As for AMD... well... they will have 8700xt (or whatever the name) as fast as the 7900xt or maybe as fast as the 5070 so the $500 is all what AMD should try to charge here.

If you are playing at 1080, most of your budget into these bigger cards would be a waste of time and money. But if you are playing at 4k or near with an ultra wide like myself (5120x1440). The biggest draw back comes from video memory. I'm running a 3080 with 10 gigs of ram and games like Horizon Forbidden West pc, just crunch the fps way down. Dropping the visual sliders hurts just to have a reasonable frame rate with upscaling. I do not buy a new video card every launch. But if there is a massive gap in memory again from a 5080 versus a 5090. Then I will have to ask myself if I value that difference enough to save up for it along with performance versus my 3080.

So ony good thing about 50 series is that it might actually get released this year?

im use a rtx 3060 ti

bro i have a gtx 960 4bg😅🥲🥲 in 2024

I will be getting a 5090. In three or four years after launch.

I want 120 fps to be the standard.

They need to have a trade in system going, like smart phones do.

@cmoneytheman

4 ай бұрын

Troll

@truthseeker6532

4 ай бұрын

@@cmoneytheman Do not speak until, you have graduated from college = To be at my level.

@cmoneytheman

4 ай бұрын

@@truthseeker6532 Do not speak until, you have graduated from college = To be at my level.

@truthseeker6532

4 ай бұрын

@@cmoneytheman You showed how childish you are. Let's test to be sure: QUESTION: Who/What is God? (Hint: The answer is given only once in the Bible = John 1:1-3).

@cmoneytheman

4 ай бұрын

@@truthseeker6532 You showed how childish you are. Let's test to be sure: QUESTION: Who/What is God? (Hint: The answer is given only once in the Bible = John 1:1-3).

PS5 pro is going to sell like wild 🔥

The scalpers will be rubbing their hands already.

Soon we will need seperate psu just for the gpu.😂

look at how the 4070 is now its a upgraded 3080 so i suspect the 5070 will be as strong as a 4070ti which will be a good jump I suspect to the 5080 will be as strong as a 4080 And the 5090 will be the 4090ti from the 1080 card I had since the month it came out I was getting great fps using 1440 high in every game I only upgraded cause I needed the newer tech for upscaling So if I wasn't upscaling I still would have the gtx 1080 and still getting good fps I only upgrade now for future updates to use more power of my card for topaz

I can't wait to have to wait two years after it's released for scalpers to die down before I can buy it...

I skipped 40 series because I was happy with 3090Ti. Only the 4090 was better but with the games I play it wasn’t worth it. On game where it would have mattered is MSFS2020, but that game is so poorly optimized with the CPU, GPU does not matter after a while. 5090 is a maybe, depending on what impact it would have on my games and 4k. I’d like to go back to 4k if I get a larger monitor, but right now 1440p seems about a perfect balance.

It's weird, I recently got a 4080 for $800 and now I just don't care about more performance. Though I play at 4K the 4080 is more than enough for the games I play, especially when I run DLSS Quality.

@cmoneytheman

4 ай бұрын

Why do u need dlss, I don't and I use native 4k using the card right below the one u got It's no reason to use max settings when high looks almost the same and runs better

@clockworklegionaire2135

3 ай бұрын

@@cmoneytheman Because DLSS 2 is essentially as good as native in most games anyway? Your just leaving performance on the table

@cmoneytheman

3 ай бұрын

@@clockworklegionaire2135 because it's not? What is the question mark for when you made a statement stop trolling And dlss has artifacts still so no

It seems to me at the moment that the performance increase 5090 vs 4090 will be much more sh*t in comparison to 4090 vs 3090. Because between 4090 and 3090 there is very considerable increase (50% or so) not only in CUDA cores but also in clock speeds (my 3090 worked at 1900-2000 MHz and dropped it very often because of power consumption, even at 480W limit. My 4090 works at 2800-2900 MHz even at high loads and almost never reaches power consumption limit (520W)). 5090 will have (presumably) not more than +50% CUDA cores compared to 4090 and I doubt it very much that its boost clock speed will be any noticeably higher than 2.9 GHz

I'm tired of seeing the same thing happening since the day I got the 1080Ti, which was my jump from AMD to Nvidia. Now I'm using a 4080, and I swear, it feels like people are going crazy over the most obvious things. Someone says the 5080 can outperform the 4090, and they go crazy. The 4080 was better than a 3090Ti, not just a 3090, and it had DLSS3 on top of that. What is truly important is the price, because the performance jump was also huge with the 4000 series, except for the jump from 3060 to 4060. Most people ignore this because they didn't like the 4000 series.

I just wish they'd stop using the most expensive vram on cards where it isn't as necessary. They save on die space for the narrower bus but end up spending twice as much for GDDR6X instead of GDDR6 that isn't really that much slower. People think Nvidia is "cheaping out" on vram without realizing the 16gb on the 4070ti S, 4080, and 4080 S costs more than the 24gb on the XTX, and the 12gb on the 4070, 4070s, and 4070ti costs about the same as the XTX. I get it for the 4090 and maybe 4080 when they're supposed to be high end, but it would make more sense to use double the amount of the cheaper GDDR6 through the 4070s at the same cost. GDDR6 is cheap and this is why they didn't hesitate to double it on the 4060ti 16gb. It almost makes me wonder if they had a contract with Micron saying they'd buy XYZ capacity of GDDR6X and they needed to use it up on the midrange cards. Hearing rumors of GDDR7 just concerns me that we'll see another generation of overpriced cards with a narrow bus for marginally faster memory like 40 series. If they give you a decent amount of vram you're definitely going to pay for it, and if they don't you're going to see even _more_ problems with capacity causing stuttering in many games.

@arenzricodexd4409

4 ай бұрын

then don't chase high res, high refresh and ultra setting. just stick to 1080p60 medium or high. then most of the problem will go away.

@Greenalex89

4 ай бұрын

Yeah pay 600 bucks in 2024 to play in 1080p medium no problem

@arenzricodexd4409

4 ай бұрын

@@Greenalex89 nah just stick to RX6600 that in some place can already be had for less than $200.

@zodwraith5745

4 ай бұрын

@@arenzricodexd4409 I agree that vram constraints can be solved easily enough with settings, but that doesn't change the fact that we shouldn't _have_ to. Vram capacity should match a card's performance. If a GPU is powerful enough to use raytracing at 1440p or render 4k ultra, there should be enough vram to support it. Vram isn't nearly the boogieman some AMD biased channels make it out to be, but it's far from a non-existent issue. Ultra settings ARE dumb 99% of the time because you often can't tell the difference between that and high, but _texture quality_ is VERY noticeable while having little effect on performance unlike other settings, and THAT'S the killer on vram. I suspect this problem will solve itself soon as we're already starting to plateau at 4k because 8k is pointless. Textures can only get so sharp. Even $300 cards can run many games at 1440 medium but it's those textures that make it an issue. 8gb is OK for now but I would never buy a new GPU with that limit. 8gb really needs to go away with the next generation and have at least 10 as the minimum if not 12. 24 and up is overkill unless you're doing something besides gaming, but 12-16 is a nice sweet spot where you don't have glaring failures like the 3070ti and 4060ti.

@arenzricodexd4409

4 ай бұрын

@@zodwraith5745 faster card should have more VRAM. not disputing that. texture quality? if you stick to 1080p even medium texture should be fine. some people said those RT effect are useless when you actually start playing the game because you will not going to look for the difference between RT vs raster when playing the game. the same can be said with texture. in the end all that pretty graphic is useless if the game itself is meh. i think that's why the vast majority of gamer still sticking with 1080p. not because they don't have the money to step up their rig but rather the quality of the game of itself is more important. the one that making a lot of noise right now is hardware enthusiast (be it at the low end, mid range or high end) that like to buy their hardware on more regular basis. because their hobby playing with those hardware are getting expensive.

Let’s assume that I have 5K to buy a PC rig with a 5090 . What would I play on such a system? Baldur’s Gate 3 is last year’s GOTY and it doesn’t need a 5090. So many other games came on PC with bad optimizations. What’s the point spending on top of the league hardware when the software is lagging behind?

@DannyzReviews

4 ай бұрын

I agree, which exactly why I said they're not selling these gpus on their fps capabilities anymore but there will be a new exclusive gimmick that they'll do push hard with marketing and that will entice people into buying it.

@IMAN7THRYLOS

4 ай бұрын

@@DannyzReviews Sure, KZreadrs and influencers will rush and buy them. Probably some streamers to play Fortnite at 8K 244FPS!

@tourmaline07

4 ай бұрын

Agree , $5k is a lot to spend just to be able to do path tracing in Cyberpunk and Alan Wake 2 at 4k 120fps DLSS Quality + framegen maxed 😂

@IMAN7THRYLOS

4 ай бұрын

@@tourmaline07 TBH NVidia should be subsiding dev costs for PC games to make use of their tech features. Also hardware dealers should be giving away these games to customers who would spend money on their hardware. Back in the late 1990s, that was happening. NVidia and 3DFX were paying devs and game studios were offering OEM disks of their games with graphic cards.

@tourmaline07

4 ай бұрын

@@IMAN7THRYLOS pretty sure that's already happening , look at the integration of path tracing into Cyberpunk 2077 , I'm pretty sure nVidia engineers are working very closely too. Games are also given away too , if I bought my 4080 Super Suprim X from MSI a few weeks later I'd have had Skull and Bones included (worth as much as a free toy in a cereal box IMO) and there's been giveaways like that recently (think Radeon did something like that)

Unless you have VR….

If you are playing on 1 and 2K then you would be correct. The big difference is in VR.

im playing triple aaa and vr. def need that 5090

@billytk1225

4 ай бұрын

ROFLMAO! I play GTA V, RDR2 on my PC - Ryzen 5 5500 with a RTX 3060 Ti and have no problem getting 60+ FPS and runs smooth as butter. Not sure about VR as it's just a hoax and money grab IMO - they never actually feel like your in VR to me.

@TheJamtarts1

4 ай бұрын

​​@@billytk1225how can VR be a money grab when most big company's are still making a loss on VR? Each to their own but VR isn't supposed to feel exactly like real life its just supposed to be a far more immersive style of gaming and for me it is.

we dont need new gpu, we need good games with proper optimization . western people living on credit card wont understand.

Just produce 5090 and nothing else. Is that so difficult to do?

the only way theya re trickign any one into a 5090 is if that thing is 1300 or less... which is not likely .. more than likely it'll cost as much as an entire (decent) gaming PC on it's own... like 1800+

@evan-du3vk

4 ай бұрын

Nvidia will sell tons of it in 2000 + price.

Not going to lie I will sell one of my 4090 for 5090 and contribute to the used market

Skipping until AMD is back in competition. They came close with 6950xt, that's why 4090 was so tryhard

Not sure most people will have enough disposable income left by the time it comes out, Things are looking bleak economy wise, Lay offs everywhere. I can afford next gen but if it's not at a decent price then forget it, Better things to spend the money on. Needs to be a big leap in performance at better pricing than 40 series, Super series proved that the non supers were not selling that well, Nvidia was charging too much. By all means charge as much as they want for the 90 class top end, But every thing under it needs to be back to pre crypto boom and just add inflation.

Can’t wait to swap out my 4090 for the 5090 at launch!

RTX 4090 is the new normal.

Team Red because they're actually making quality parts and not stealing from me. All AMD rig, no problems so far.

I am the anti-you. 60 fps is the new 30. I have a 3060TI and I can barely maintain 100 on most old AAA games (1440p) New games are kind of a pain and I just default to mid graphics and hope the FPS are decent. I can't wait for the 5090, I already have the money for the GPU stashed away. Need to just stash some more for the MOBO, CPU, PSU, cooling. And I'm finally going to ditch my decade old HDDs.

i just got a 4080 super smh....

@barrontrump3943

3 ай бұрын

Depends what you upgraded from. If you had a 30 series card then you are a complete fool

I predict $2499 MINIMUM for the 5090, being 40% faster than the 5080 which will barely match the 4090. I TRUST Jensen to keep the perf/$ completely static once more.

@clockworklegionaire2135

3 ай бұрын

If these professionals keep buying 90 class cards instead of quadros or RTX 6000-8000's then 2500$ will indeed be a real possibility