Born Evil Or Influenced By a Toxic Mother? | The Coronation Street Killer | Real Stories

This series tells the complex stories of serial killers' family relationships, and especially the vital role played by their mums. The series starts with the story of Daniel Bartlam who was dubbed "The Coronation Street Killer".
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  • @DeeDee-lx1ef
    @DeeDee-lx1ef4 жыл бұрын

    Seems like they're putting all the blame on his mum, where was his dad when all this was happening?

  • @sheilaackers3854

    @sheilaackers3854

    4 жыл бұрын

    Sorry didn't see your comment.

  • @mr.greenjeans8323

    @mr.greenjeans8323

    4 жыл бұрын

    I agree with you totally where was dad when all this was going on ..i know my divorce experience isn't like all cases but it is like most my exwife and me were ALWAYS in communication when it came to our children if one of my kids as much as scraped a knee when they were in her care I expected to hear about it so something like this why was dad involved

  • @orvillesuiter5162

    @orvillesuiter5162

    4 жыл бұрын

    Doesn't seem like the bio dad was around or did anything to help the mom and step dad out with daniel. He was a distant father. This poor woman. No mom wants to admit their child has issues and she was doing what she thought was right. I don't blame her one bit. Sure things shoyld have been done but we can say that now after the fact but I don't think anyone saw this coming. Im sure daniel regrets his actions everyday and it's something he has to live with forever. Such a tragedy. My heart thoughts and prayers go out to the youngest son and Simon. I don't know how they get through day to day tasks. God bless them!

  • @alexblaze8878

    @alexblaze8878

    4 жыл бұрын

    Where was the dad? Probably desperately fighting the mother to see his boy and be part of his life.

  • @alexblaze8878

    @alexblaze8878

    4 жыл бұрын

    Doris Karloff yep anything is possible. Maybe the mother was sexually abusing the child. See how speculation works?

  • @WAAAAAAGH
    @WAAAAAAGH4 жыл бұрын

    Documentary is getting in the way of the music.

  • @pleasantsville

    @pleasantsville

    4 жыл бұрын

    Alexander Gro'Hamilton 🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @melindaroman9963

    @melindaroman9963

    4 жыл бұрын

    Can't make it to the end annoying

  • @MsMarylou82

    @MsMarylou82

    4 жыл бұрын

    😂😂😂

  • @melntribe4403

    @melntribe4403

    4 жыл бұрын

    😂😂😂

  • @rosinahmaoba5153

    @rosinahmaoba5153

    3 жыл бұрын

    😂😂😂

  • @valarie22
    @valarie224 жыл бұрын

    i feel so bad for the younger brother. this poor kid witnessed his older brother bashing his moms head in and setting the house on fire and lying about it too. imagine her screams and the little brother had to hear that. the poor baby

  • @user-zx5kq6hs9d

    @user-zx5kq6hs9d

    4 жыл бұрын

    I feel for the poor child, life time of therapy will be needed.

  • @NickyM_0

    @NickyM_0

    4 жыл бұрын

    But I can bet that despite that horrific trauma the little brother endured, he will not grow up to be a killer!

  • @valarie22

    @valarie22

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@NickyM_0 i hope hes okay :(

  • @teaspoonsofpeanutbutter6425

    @teaspoonsofpeanutbutter6425

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Kelly Day I agree, I don't believe these people are made, I believe they're born that way, otherwise their siblings would all be the same. All of us are capable of killing if we needed to, but to want or need to for enjoyment has got to be a naturally occiring brain wiring problem.

  • @beverlykorte8581

    @beverlykorte8581

    3 жыл бұрын

    🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼

  • @shirleyhunter3462
    @shirleyhunter34624 жыл бұрын

    also why isnt the Father interviewed? The stepdad is not the same as his father

  • @cyrene7784

    @cyrene7784

    4 жыл бұрын

    No kidding. What was the father's role in all of this?

  • @shirleyhunter3462

    @shirleyhunter3462

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@cyrene7784 I know sounds like the poor boy wanted his dad and wasnt getting access to him

  • @ayameisastar

    @ayameisastar

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@shirleyhunter3462 I actually read it as the dad bouncing , not wanting the kid or not having time for him as he lived his new life free of his kids. He bought him an expensive computer right? That's a guilty purchase if I've ever heard of one. He was also refusing to pay for his schooling. A lot of mom's will shield their children from the fact that dad doesn't want them anymore. Notice how the dad's face was blurred out of the documentary? He doesn't take responsibility for what's happened.

  • @NickyM_0

    @NickyM_0

    4 жыл бұрын

    Maybe because the stepdad was around in the custodial home and he would be able to observe the dynamics of the family and daniel.

  • @NickyM_0

    @NickyM_0

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@shirleyhunter3462 He was seeing his Dad regularly though.

  • @darkkiss7247
    @darkkiss72476 жыл бұрын

    How did this woman not know that there was something VERY wrong with her son? If my 11 year old was urinating and defacating on their things and in their room I'd have them at the doctor's office in a heartbeat.

  • @valken666

    @valken666

    6 жыл бұрын

    She was neglectful, that's why the murder happened in the first place.

  • @emilywilkins7055

    @emilywilkins7055

    6 жыл бұрын

    Sure. Blame the mother!

  • @valken666

    @valken666

    6 жыл бұрын

    Emily Wilkins - We have a bad parent issue in the UK that needs to be solved, don't try to hide the issue.

  • @brandyyolidio4213

    @brandyyolidio4213

    6 жыл бұрын

    Valken She was neglectful but he was a nut and woulda been that antisocial weirdo we see at a hospital cleaning the restrooms and smiling and giggling to himself, then retreating to the empty lonely basement where he felt comfortable...we see/interact with these people everyday and write them off as strange

  • @TigerheartedWolf

    @TigerheartedWolf

    6 жыл бұрын

    It's terrible that she died but she did nothing to help the situation. He already had issues but was clearly crying out to help and she didn't take him seriously. Even the step-father was aware that he had issues. Everyone likes to think their children are little angels but the fact of the matter is that they are their own people. They can be bad. She was in denial and it cost her.

  • @jacobs1284
    @jacobs12844 жыл бұрын

    I agree with everyone else in the chat the “real stories” channel always has really loud and distracting background music! YOU NEED TO FIX IT!!

  • @Noname-oo9gn

    @Noname-oo9gn

    4 жыл бұрын

    Considering it’s a murder documentary I think the music is not only loud but insensitive.

  • @kass_G59

    @kass_G59

    4 жыл бұрын

    @Ali Shabbiri lmao wait what 😂

  • @dontdiscriminatehateeveryo9263

    @dontdiscriminatehateeveryo9263

    4 жыл бұрын

    The Brits trying to make An American style crime documentary using the dramatic music effect but failing badly.

  • @kkkfam7913

    @kkkfam7913

    4 жыл бұрын

    don't discriminate hate everyone equally no

  • @GamingNat

    @GamingNat

    3 жыл бұрын

    It's because they steal other documentaries from tv stations. But it's whatever 😂

  • @TheBeezusjones
    @TheBeezusjones4 жыл бұрын

    Scuse me- what about killers' relationships with their dads? I would think at least as often ,that would be a factor.

  • @philiplopiano3759

    @philiplopiano3759

    4 жыл бұрын

    Who cares, this ones about the mothers impact.just sit back relax and learn something.

  • @amypatrick632

    @amypatrick632

    4 жыл бұрын

    Exactly...Why didn’t the dad day or do anything?? I am sure the dad saw things that weren’t right with the son too...it’s easy to blame the mom!!

  • @philiplopiano3759

    @philiplopiano3759

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@amypatrick632 well seeing how the kid killed his mom its more about the dynamics between the mother and son.its only a 40 min documentary. Lol

  • @philiplopiano3759

    @philiplopiano3759

    4 жыл бұрын

    Y even bring the father up when it's all about the mom and son obviously.are we gonna say he was really mad at the dad but took it on on the mom cause she was there.people will always nit pick about something

  • @alexblaze8878

    @alexblaze8878

    4 жыл бұрын

    More like LACK of relationship. Children-especially prepubescent boys-desperately need their father in the home.

  • @wanderingfree149
    @wanderingfree1493 жыл бұрын

    My mother was a malignant narcassist when she was alive and yet I'm not a serial killing psychopath. Yes some mother's are horrid but we have the choice to overcome it

  • @faithlight5007

    @faithlight5007

    3 жыл бұрын

    Not yet!!???!?

  • @dwayne_dibley

    @dwayne_dibley

    3 жыл бұрын

    Having the choice to overcome repulsive urges is irrelevant if they’re not repulsive to the individual. The tendency of most people is to judge atrocious acts as if they were committing them themselves. This is a malformed approach. There’s a lot of politics in discussion of mental illness and this so called expert is no exception.

  • @erikaschmied263

    @erikaschmied263

    3 жыл бұрын

    YOU-ARE-ABLE-TOO-CXILL-DOWN-ARE-YOU-IN-TXE-WAY-MOST-OF*F-TXE-PEAPLE-CAN-DO-I-TXINK-YOU-HAVE-A-SPEZIAL-SORT-OF-VOKABLUAR*-ARN*T-YOU.

  • @bekacynthia

    @bekacynthia

    2 жыл бұрын

    Oh, and everyone is exactly like you. It's much more complex than that.

  • @pixiewings21_9

    @pixiewings21_9

    Жыл бұрын

    @@erikaschmied263 I'd seek counselling if I were *you* 🤦‍♀️

  • @tanyam8462
    @tanyam84626 жыл бұрын

    The "backround" music is too loud, it's very annoying.

  • @jinaabaapsabkabaap6342

    @jinaabaapsabkabaap6342

    5 жыл бұрын

    Oh shut up with your 1st world issues

  • @peterianstaker9273

    @peterianstaker9273

    5 жыл бұрын

    I was thinking the same.

  • @antoniojimenezperez50

    @antoniojimenezperez50

    5 жыл бұрын

    just end it all with a claw hamer

  • @MrDutchmarshal

    @MrDutchmarshal

    5 жыл бұрын

    How is bad sound editing a "first world problem" @@jinaabaapsabkabaap6342

  • @ivory561000

    @ivory561000

    5 жыл бұрын

    Put it on CC caption.. Turn the sound off..

  • @debaterofeverythingpresent2775
    @debaterofeverythingpresent27756 жыл бұрын

    Cut the music when talking. Don't know if I'm listening to a documentary or the world's worst band.

  • @elizanne6660

    @elizanne6660

    5 жыл бұрын

    Yep gave up after five mins

  • @gc8024

    @gc8024

    5 жыл бұрын

    Yea the part ,when dad left home. I wanted to hear couldn't.

  • @msriver11

    @msriver11

    4 жыл бұрын

    😂😂😂😂

  • @HonestNModest

    @HonestNModest

    4 жыл бұрын

    Oooo burn 🙄

  • @kaceyhero1800

    @kaceyhero1800

    4 жыл бұрын

    Haha

  • @meredithadams5495
    @meredithadams54953 жыл бұрын

    At what point do we stop assuming his reason and ask him? I'm 3/4 through the video and all this speculation and stupid psychology talk is pissing me off. I was that kid. There is more.

  • @wicketuma444
    @wicketuma4444 жыл бұрын

    Ok if I defecated and urinated in my room, my Mom would have been keenly aware of the odor! There seems to have been a lot of denial.

  • @jamesbrooks6734

    @jamesbrooks6734

    4 жыл бұрын

    " Denial" should be the title of this story.

  • @veganperson

    @veganperson

    4 жыл бұрын

    Perhaps she never entered his room until the time when she cleaned it out.

  • @maraatkinson7124

    @maraatkinson7124

    4 жыл бұрын

    Right!? The mom had some major mental issues and contributed and possibly even caused her son's mental issues

  • @Girl-101

    @Girl-101

    4 жыл бұрын

    Fear as well

  • @brownrabbit61

    @brownrabbit61

    4 жыл бұрын

    Girl101 Yes, from what Simon told us about him standing angrily over her she probably was scared of him, and that's why Simon was the one cleaning his room. They could most likely smell it, and decided something had to be done.

  • @kelleybunny
    @kelleybunny6 жыл бұрын

    i find that ppl feel a type of shame..about mental health problems..like his mother not wanting it to get out. if you're child is acting this way that raises reg flags.. its best to get help as soon as you can.

  • @imonlysaying9985

    @imonlysaying9985

    5 жыл бұрын

    Not as easy as that. In the uk it can take over 10 years for you to get help from social services for out of controll behavior. Schools need to refer the child for this help which goes to your drs which then goes to a pediatrician and so on and so on. Its an endless system of BS and 9/10 the child is never seen and becomes a violent offender. Also this was early 2000s its now 2019 and only now are we starting to take away the shame and talk about mental illness. Back then this wouldnt have even been mentioned

  • @victorbeardman1610

    @victorbeardman1610

    4 жыл бұрын

    What a decent mother who cared more about their reputation than getting help for her son.

  • @horsluva0758

    @horsluva0758

    4 жыл бұрын

    I think he lacked discipline.. he was a spoiled brat. I'd kick his little a** if he was my kid.

  • @BlaggRose0279

    @BlaggRose0279

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@horsluva0758 exactly!👍

  • @sharonharding3478

    @sharonharding3478

    Жыл бұрын

    Good luck with that one

  • @awg7068
    @awg70686 жыл бұрын

    He crapped and peed in his toy bins. End of discussion. He was unwell, regardless of whether he really heard voices or not. When you add all of it together, it's Adam Lanza and his mother all over again. I guess we can all take a breath and be relieved that he stopped after only killing his mother, but I think this is a real warning to all parents who make excuses for their child's odd behaviors instead of taking them seriously.

  • @BabyLoveXs6

    @BabyLoveXs6

    4 жыл бұрын

    Did y’all know that something like 95% schizophrenics were severely sexually abused as children? This kid shows all of the signs of a child that was severely sexually abused.

  • @carollassalle4171

    @carollassalle4171

    4 жыл бұрын

    But who would had sexuality abused him? Are you suggesting his mom sexually abused him?

  • @sunnyskye1106

    @sunnyskye1106

    4 жыл бұрын

    Adrienne Wrn demonic possession. Definitely.

  • @BabyLoveXs6

    @BabyLoveXs6

    4 жыл бұрын

    Adrienne Wrn Or protect your children from child sexual predators. Either or.

  • @smilessantana2049

    @smilessantana2049

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@BabyLoveXs6 stupid comment

  • @jennifercordova7229
    @jennifercordova72294 жыл бұрын

    I've said it before, and I'll keep saying it: Ladies (and gentlemen), your first priority after divorce should be your children. Your love life can wait.

  • @davidanthony4960

    @davidanthony4960

    3 жыл бұрын

    people need to stop blaming anyone here... the blame is the divorce.. you have NO IDEA what impact that can have on a kid when they are at the age of finding thier identity and who they are and what is what... divorces need to happen b4 kids are 4 years old,.. after that.. its to traumatic... and its the same old thing... parents get divorced.. mum meets new guy.. new guy tries to play dad.. mum gives more attention to new guy.... seen it OVER AND OVER AGAIN... this really messes with kids head and personality, so please stop saying "he was just a syco.. as he was fine till they divorced..

  • @dwayne_dibley

    @dwayne_dibley

    3 жыл бұрын

    There’s not much in this documentary about the parents and I don’t find the case interesting enough to go digging. It certainly trauma is a big player in this case. The second partner gives me the impression the divorce situation was more complicated than implied in the documentary

  • @bread9853
    @bread98534 жыл бұрын

    Man, I got so pissed off and the total lack of concern from everyone. "people wihh personality disorders chose to hurt people" No they don't. That's why a personality disorder is a disorder of judgment as well as mood. This boy was screaming for help and was left to cope with it by himself while being brushed off by all adults that were responsible for him.

  • @ladysarcasm6226

    @ladysarcasm6226

    3 жыл бұрын

    I saw another doc on this channel where he appears and is quite a brilliant artist. He admits to having difficulties understanding emotions. I agree with you, he was screaming for help but no one heard. It was just a terrible situation where no one knew how to react that ended up in tragedy

  • @catinca6548

    @catinca6548

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@ladysarcasm6226 how is the doc called?

  • @Risingofthephoenixxx

    @Risingofthephoenixxx

    Жыл бұрын

    Um what? Not you sympathizing with someone who can't even sympathize because they have no emotions. Psychopaths aren't interested in help because they don't see anything wrong with their behavior or mental state because in order for you to seek help and believe something is wrong with you you have to have a strong sense of self and a conscience something psychopaths and sociopaths lack severely. Another thing is they DO CHOOSE to hurt people because most psychopaths get off on violence or seeing living things suffer. There's literally hundreds of interviews online and even blogs and facebook groups where sociopaths and psychopaths meet discussing getting off on seeing others suffering cause they experience power and what not. Some of ya'll are delusional and naive I swear. Perfect victims for antisocial personality types

  • @Sana-ui6eh
    @Sana-ui6eh5 жыл бұрын

    ''with a 16 year sentence to serve, his story is now over'' Except it's not...He'll be out by 30. He was already callous and psycho before spending his teen and young adult years in prison. He'll get released and become a serial killer.

  • @butterflylady8875

    @butterflylady8875

    4 жыл бұрын

    Sana exactly what I was thinking… Premeditated murder and he’s out in 16 years, WTF!

  • @butterflylady8875

    @butterflylady8875

    4 жыл бұрын

    Sana maybe the coronavirus will get him and no one will have to worry about him after a release

  • @velkrokitty260

    @velkrokitty260

    4 жыл бұрын

    16 years for murder??? You've got to be kidding. He's just getting the best criminal education available and will bring it out the unsuspecting public. Wow.

  • @feegee4671

    @feegee4671

    4 жыл бұрын

    Sana it's a minimum of 16years. This psycho is bound to step out of line when his in jail IMO so hopefully he won't see the light of a free day any time soon.

  • @musicachalin

    @musicachalin

    4 жыл бұрын

    16 years is not enough!

  • @cocolime6496
    @cocolime64965 жыл бұрын

    There's so much finger pointing at the mother in spite of everything the professionals are saying this documentary is so slanted. The way it's filmed is so sensationalized and melodramatic.

  • @UrbanWildlifeUK

    @UrbanWildlifeUK

    Жыл бұрын

    yeah that women with the dark hair went out of her way to portray the mother as a saint and has an excuse for every one of the mothers failings...

  • @gordonaliasme1104

    @gordonaliasme1104

    Жыл бұрын

    You can't explain the inexplicable. Sixteen years in prison will teach him new skills. The cycle continues.

  • @cocolime6496

    @cocolime6496

    Жыл бұрын

    @@UrbanWildlifeUK that's like the opposite of what i said

  • @mariamalzahem7512

    @mariamalzahem7512

    Жыл бұрын

    This channel tends to present very over-produced, skewed and sensationalized content. The stories are interesting, I just wish they'd reevaluate their approach.

  • @sarahlamb2333

    @sarahlamb2333

    Жыл бұрын

    The part where it says that horror movies triggered fear excitement no it triggered fight as he was predatory not prey.. In different natures, different responses are triggered. In a person that's not predatory it would be more likely trigger fear as a prey response as they would recognise themselves as the victim not the main horror character which is what he will have identified with

  • @jaisyw7569
    @jaisyw75694 жыл бұрын

    So many kids show huge red flags of mental distress and their parents ignore it all. Such a shame, they don’t even have a chance to get better

  • @laurenw2519
    @laurenw25194 жыл бұрын

    Love how part of his condition is a lack of accountability.....entire show blames his behavior on his mom....hmm.

  • @ceciliacurrie7038

    @ceciliacurrie7038

    4 жыл бұрын

    He does have a father. Where is he?

  • @feliciaowens1104

    @feliciaowens1104

    4 жыл бұрын

    Exactly

  • @nora4981

    @nora4981

    4 жыл бұрын

    Well he’s a child so ...

  • @ilsegrater9753

    @ilsegrater9753

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yes, don't you love how it's always the mother's fault! Never mind that he's a psychopath, never mind that his dad was obviously very absent in his child's life ... nope, it's the mother's fault!

  • @devilslotus4351

    @devilslotus4351

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@ilsegrater9753 it's not that it's her fault, it's that it could have been prevented.

  • @wonderwoman3966
    @wonderwoman39665 жыл бұрын

    OMG "Im hearing voices" and no one listens? Just say no you're not. Even if he was faking it HE WAS STILL SHOWING YOU HE NEEDED HELP!!!!!

  • @LunaRose1312

    @LunaRose1312

    4 жыл бұрын

    I think the lady the guy was talking to was fresh out of uni, saying people with personality disorders just choose to not be good is laughable

  • @levicrossdechantel

    @levicrossdechantel

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@LunaRose1312 I agree. I have a personality disorder myself and there really things that are beyond my control. Like blacking out, walking out of a discussion because I was having a panic attack/flashbacks, dissociating, etc... Although throughout the years, it's gotten a bit better. it's even harder for those who have 0 awareness about their illness--they're basically in the dark...no awareness of the interventions that can be done to keep the symptoms under control.

  • @LunaRose1312

    @LunaRose1312

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@levicrossdechantel I've suffered black rages my entire life sometimes I wish I had been in control but that's not how a personality disorder works, goodluck to you

  • @LunaRose1312

    @LunaRose1312

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@levicrossdechantel a symptom of mine is being maladaptive, change will mess me up for a considerable amount of time also something I cant control

  • @rosalinachavez8099

    @rosalinachavez8099

    4 жыл бұрын

    Wonder Woman how come the voices always say to be violent and not clean your room 😂

  • @Alex-gb1cx
    @Alex-gb1cx4 жыл бұрын

    All this talking is irritating, can’t hear the music properly

  • @ronlynnvanaswegen160

    @ronlynnvanaswegen160

    4 жыл бұрын

    Lol hehehehe lmao

  • @pennyrose3807

    @pennyrose3807

    4 жыл бұрын

    🤣🤣

  • @athensmajnoo3661

    @athensmajnoo3661

    4 жыл бұрын

    😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅

  • @jaybee1248

    @jaybee1248

    4 жыл бұрын

    😂

  • @tamsinhendrick7670

    @tamsinhendrick7670

    4 жыл бұрын

    Alex hahahahahahaha

  • @ElaAusDemTal
    @ElaAusDemTal4 жыл бұрын

    He *shat* on his toys?! Was he using airtight Tupperware for his toys or why didn't they smell it? I mean, bathrooms are still smelly some time after flushing, and he kept more than one of his pinched loafs in his friggin' room!

  • @lindasvalesen5237

    @lindasvalesen5237

    3 жыл бұрын

    Smelly after flushing? What on earth are you eating?

  • @CiprianaLeme
    @CiprianaLeme4 жыл бұрын

    It's funny how they never consider that serial killers can also come from families that spoil them rotten. Too much love and permissiveness is just as harmful as none at all. It´s not only abuse that makes a killer, it´s not being able to say no, ever, and letting him get his way. The first NO triggers so much rage, they can´t accept it and become violent.

  • @sharonletchford9375

    @sharonletchford9375

    Жыл бұрын

    Good point yes I agree, depending on the person s nature "anyone" can become enraged , " including those, as you ve stated, that can t handle the word NO!!

  • @BabyBishRemy

    @BabyBishRemy

    Жыл бұрын

    That's enabling not love. Love doesnt spoil a child to uselessness.

  • @destrocrimson

    @destrocrimson

    Жыл бұрын

    Cite an actual case where that is what happened.

  • @lawrencelopez9839

    @lawrencelopez9839

    Жыл бұрын

    I'm under the impression that a serial killer has killed at least 3 people though, from this documentary this little demon only killed one

  • @billbailey1511

    @billbailey1511

    Жыл бұрын

    He's not a serial killer. Everyone knows what a serial killer is.

  • @chiimpy
    @chiimpy6 жыл бұрын

    Audio is so unbalanced it hurts my soul.

  • @leena3010

    @leena3010

    6 жыл бұрын

    Nathan Burton 🤣🤣🤣

  • @ikponmwosaonaghinor1272

    @ikponmwosaonaghinor1272

    6 жыл бұрын

    Nathan Burton 😂😂😂

  • @MrYinkster

    @MrYinkster

    6 жыл бұрын

    Nathan Burton 😄😄😄

  • @raolhooley

    @raolhooley

    5 жыл бұрын

    Your soul.?..lol...oh do behave

  • @raolhooley

    @raolhooley

    5 жыл бұрын

    Yinka The Mod Guy ...lol....

  • @chromeclaws
    @chromeclaws5 жыл бұрын

    i'm floored by the fact that the dude just assumes this kid was too lazy to go to the bathroom, like that's a normal adolescent thing to do, and "taking him to task" will sort it out. how in the world did these two ignore the obvious and severe signs of mental illness in this child for so long?

  • @deborahhockett
    @deborahhockett4 жыл бұрын

    I would have sent him to live with his dad. He needed someone who could handle this behavior.

  • @fightfannerd2078

    @fightfannerd2078

    4 жыл бұрын

    ikr

  • @poppyfield1619

    @poppyfield1619

    4 жыл бұрын

    his father may not have been any better though

  • @intothemystic5223

    @intothemystic5223

    4 жыл бұрын

    He needed more than anything a parent could do. He needed intense psychiatric treatment.

  • @gmapatty

    @gmapatty

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yeah and then it would probably be his dad that would be dead today! The boy has mental issues!!

  • @gmapatty

    @gmapatty

    4 жыл бұрын

    I am sad for his mother! Also for this boy! But he does have mental issues! He did plan his mother's death. I can't believe they gave him only 16 years! He should have got Life! He took a Life!!

  • @MysteriousHearing
    @MysteriousHearing4 жыл бұрын

    What I saw a few months ago: Coronation Street Killer What I see now: Corona-

  • @spookybaba

    @spookybaba

    3 жыл бұрын

    Wrong! What you see now is lies and propaganda.

  • @erikaschmied263

    @erikaschmied263

    3 жыл бұрын

    YES-WE-CAN.

  • @juliebear1505
    @juliebear15054 жыл бұрын

    So the terrible trauma he experienced was having to move house, a new school and his parents splitting up? So he killed his mother. What would he have done had he experienced real trauma like physical, sexual and emotional abuse, poverty and true neglect.

  • @cyrene7784

    @cyrene7784

    4 жыл бұрын

    Probably killed other people.

  • @oOIIIMIIIOo

    @oOIIIMIIIOo

    4 жыл бұрын

    You push down problems, too. It is the wrong way...

  • @jennjeffs4893

    @jennjeffs4893

    4 жыл бұрын

    Everyone experiences trauma differently, especially the very young.

  • @gc8024

    @gc8024

    4 жыл бұрын

    I think mom had favorites,,most get over it. ,yet he didn't. Just because you have more kids from a new husband ,you shouldn't ignore your frist kids. There was red flags.

  • @nadia6756

    @nadia6756

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@jennjeffs4893 I agree. When parents split up , children are so delicate emotionally; they blame themselves. If you dont sit them down and actually talk from the heart to them you will have big problems. I feel like he felt like he had lost everything and no one understood. I'm sorry his poor mother died but I can't help feeling empathy for this lad too.

  • @JaneSmith0709
    @JaneSmith07094 жыл бұрын

    The volume fluctuations make this video intolerable to watch.

  • @mrzoltanonwinter2218

    @mrzoltanonwinter2218

    4 жыл бұрын

    Exactly!

  • @APilgrimInAFallenWorld2030
    @APilgrimInAFallenWorld20303 жыл бұрын

    There were signs that he needed help and he even shared a graphic violent story to his mom and step dad. Perhaps this was his way of trying to share what was in his mind in an attempt to get help. His mom clearly brushed it of instead of sitting down with him to see where this violent story came from. She could have gotten him help for not only his violent thoughts but also his feelings of isolation.

  • @Melllllzy
    @Melllllzy4 жыл бұрын

    OMG heaven forbid a dude has to take responsibility for his actions.

  • @ladysarcasm6226

    @ladysarcasm6226

    3 жыл бұрын

    He actually has, is not the one who's saying that lol He's a man now.

  • @hakunamakara
    @hakunamakara4 жыл бұрын

    Whoever did the audio mixing for this needs to be fired and banned from working in the industry ever again.

  • @potatosnap
    @potatosnap6 жыл бұрын

    They keep saying good mother, loving family, but I only see a parent who gave the kid things, but did not give the child any boundaries or emotional support.

  • @valken666

    @valken666

    6 жыл бұрын

    Abuse comes in many forms.

  • @aminahrolsdorph8551

    @aminahrolsdorph8551

    6 жыл бұрын

    Tailored Effect obviously something which was Not There.. Very sad and disturbing

  • @fauxmanchu8094

    @fauxmanchu8094

    6 жыл бұрын

    Tailored Effect 👍👍👍👍

  • @BBrunnel

    @BBrunnel

    6 жыл бұрын

    IMO, I don't think this is a good example of how parents have an impact on murderers. It's defo something biological.

  • @zeberdee1972

    @zeberdee1972

    5 жыл бұрын

    Tailored Effect , think you just hit the nail on the head my friend . She didn't care and was probably resentful to the lad as he reminded him of her ex husband . Either way this kid was let down .

  • @MsTinkerbelle87
    @MsTinkerbelle874 жыл бұрын

    My heart goes out to Simon...he’s not his dad so he can’t discipline, he had to sit back and watch this all happen but unable to do anything💔 Poor guy!!

  • @OGSinisterPotato
    @OGSinisterPotato4 жыл бұрын

    It's a shame the audio was edited by a deaf person. I was looking forward to watching this.

  • @TheNogbat
    @TheNogbat6 жыл бұрын

    I Love the documentaries but, you need to fix that audio tracks. Bad mixing. Not only in this one. Lots of other videos from Real Stories have this issue. Sometimes we can´t hear the narrator or vice-versa because of the loud music or because of the loud voiceover. It´s a construct critic, i´m an audio and mixing professional. Fix the sound mixing please!!

  • @TheSachpo

    @TheSachpo

    4 жыл бұрын

    This doco made me so mad.....so many red flags!!! Poor boy

  • @derry854
    @derry8544 жыл бұрын

    Talk about victim blaming.Where was the father in all this?!

  • @bradengle3491

    @bradengle3491

    4 жыл бұрын

    Being rapped by the gynocetric family court.

  • @YouAreMySunshine2

    @YouAreMySunshine2

    4 жыл бұрын

    I would have sent this little psychopath to his dad and let him deal with it. Clearly the mom was too weak to deal with this boy.

  • @lornagodbylg

    @lornagodbylg

    4 жыл бұрын

    I assume you are talking about the murdered victim? Why should the psycho murderer's Grandfather have any responsibility?

  • @veromotshabi1471

    @veromotshabi1471

    4 жыл бұрын

    So true!! always is the mother's too blame

  • @fightfannerd2078

    @fightfannerd2078

    4 жыл бұрын

    moms broke up with the dads

  • @charlottebruce979
    @charlottebruce9794 жыл бұрын

    My ex husband walked out on me and my four children, who were young at the time. My daughter later rebelled and misbehaved. She is a lovely woman now, so it doesn't have to end in disaster.

  • @romeroontilt617

    @romeroontilt617

    Жыл бұрын

    @@MyNameIsMissMe may Allah help u Charlotte!

  • @Gh0stGaminginc

    @Gh0stGaminginc

    Жыл бұрын

    Bet she's a ho with daddy issues

  • @sirvilhelmofyonderland
    @sirvilhelmofyonderland3 жыл бұрын

    My Mom was mentally ill, physically and verbally abusive. Years and years. I never thought about hurting her or anyone else.

  • @DaLilVivi96

    @DaLilVivi96

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeah welldone for noticing we aren't all the same lol there was no point for tour comment tbh

  • @joaquimrodriguez8961

    @joaquimrodriguez8961

    Жыл бұрын

    That's sad, my mum was an angle, I loved her until her death in 2020.

  • @MajorOctofuss

    @MajorOctofuss

    Жыл бұрын

    Haha what a story mark

  • @jimmyhappysmith204
    @jimmyhappysmith2046 жыл бұрын

    Yes the natural father should have continued to be a strong part time presence in his boys life. A sad situation.

  • @Skibidiplushies

    @Skibidiplushies

    4 жыл бұрын

    Even if the mother didn't want the dad in his life unless he was a risk of harm to the kid or was going to damage him in some way then it doesn't matter what she wants. It's what the child needs. Hate seeing petty mothers making their kids suffer because they don't like the dad anymore.

  • @lunaluxx6617

    @lunaluxx6617

    4 жыл бұрын

    @Wolf4077 father's should have just as much say, unless they are not safe to be around. Too many times people let the mom's make all the decisions, and she dont involve dad until she feels like it or its in their best interest. It took both of them to have a child

  • @illywolf4558

    @illywolf4558

    4 жыл бұрын

    Strong "Part Time Presence" Oxymoron

  • @chellychels4356

    @chellychels4356

    4 жыл бұрын

    It said in the video that the dad got weekends, so I’m pretty sure he did have them part time. He probably just didn’t want to be brought up in the video.

  • @KrystalLioness
    @KrystalLioness6 жыл бұрын

    Great description of narcissism and psychopathy, but what really got on my nerves was the fact that they kept calling her a loving mother. She may have not physically abused him, but she appeared to shut down and disconnect herself from her child. I believe the lack of connection plays a roll in all of this. That being said he obviously he had some issues which should have been addressed long before this happened.

  • @BaLayEunMi

    @BaLayEunMi

    6 жыл бұрын

    Yes. I've known a few mothers who are good at looking perfect to everyone on the surface, but are horribly cruel and abusive when no one else is watching.

  • @KrystalLioness

    @KrystalLioness

    6 жыл бұрын

    Yes, I've even seen family members have very disruptive children and they act as if they don't even see it. I've seen some of these children grow up to have a lot of difficulties in life. It's more prevalent than we think.

  • @annikaschwartz9195

    @annikaschwartz9195

    4 жыл бұрын

    that is a form of emotional abuse especially with a child that young.

  • @Risingofthephoenixxx

    @Risingofthephoenixxx

    Жыл бұрын

    Still not her fault though. If its the mothers fault its just as much the fathers fault too. There are millions and millions and millions of us who have gone through far worse abuse and dysfunctional families then this and who have never and will never hurt murder or rape someone. Sorry but some people are just born evil. Psychopaths are born.

  • @guyanderson327
    @guyanderson3274 жыл бұрын

    At 12 I remember well and I understood everything pretty well.I am so tired of these people thinking poor child..O had 5 brothers and sisters so I knew life was not all about me and my parents were good parents. This kid is a spoiled murderer end of story

  • @michellemarek1621

    @michellemarek1621

    4 жыл бұрын

    Guy Anderson that’s what I said

  • @mauramcmahon8785

    @mauramcmahon8785

    4 жыл бұрын

    100%

  • @timpricedrums
    @timpricedrums4 жыл бұрын

    If I found my 11 year old watching 18 rated films, I’d hit the roof. This whole story screams poor parenting. Kids need structure, discipline and boundaries. When they push their luck, they need to be shut down quickly and in no uncertain terms. It’s like those tv shows about problem dogs.. it’s always the owner’s lack of ability to lead and control the animal correctly. This lad was totally lost and ended up going down a very destructive path. Sad.

  • @poppyfield1619

    @poppyfield1619

    4 жыл бұрын

    Tim TPDRUMS brilliant comment

  • @christinerobinson890

    @christinerobinson890

    4 жыл бұрын

    Tim TPDRUMS and violent media IS bad for people. They poo-pooed the influence, but that in and of itself is enough to make someone violent.

  • @ayameisastar

    @ayameisastar

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@christinerobinson890 Yes because murders and violent crimes never happened before the 20th century. Oh wait... They totally did. IF you had actually read the FBI report on violent media and their influence on mass shooters, you'll find that video media actually had little effect. Most offenders were reported to be most affected by violent literature. And statistically since the invention of video and the digital age violent crime has overall been on a steady decline. The general theory is that visual media doesn't cause someone to go bad, but it can be something that's either a hobby or an obsession in people who go bad. Some people are born bad, some people are made bad but violent videos aren't gonna make you bad. You have to already have it in you.

  • @PointNemo9

    @PointNemo9

    4 жыл бұрын

    The problem is he probably had structure and discipline but then after the divorce his life turned to chaos

  • @michelleb7399

    @michelleb7399

    4 жыл бұрын

    When my son was 11, he was not allowed ro have a computer in his room. And i did monitor what sites he accessed and talked to him about anything i found questionable, in a genuinely curious manner. Honestly, we were all trying to figure out this technology thing out. My son was born December 1994. So, he seemed to come of age as smart phones did. It was hard for parents to determine how to handle all of this.

  • @sham421
    @sham4215 жыл бұрын

    "...tells the complex stories of serial killers'..." I'm reasonably certain that one murder does not make a serial killer.... by definition.

  • @sdmsdm7926

    @sdmsdm7926

    Жыл бұрын

    When he gets out you can welcome the psycho to your neighborhood & maybe he’ll move in right next door to you......

  • @romeroontilt617

    @romeroontilt617

    Жыл бұрын

    yeah. thats what i question myself as well

  • @kristijanmehun2382
    @kristijanmehun23826 жыл бұрын

    The guy at 20:45 says Daniel started to hit himself and punching the wall, yet at the beginning they said he never showed any signs of self-harm..... So.... Yeah,...what? There are many stupid conclusions in this documentary too

  • @trevinaking3147

    @trevinaking3147

    4 жыл бұрын

    Right and no one got this boy any help at all they just blamed it on movirs and videos

  • @wendychavez5348

    @wendychavez5348

    4 жыл бұрын

    You're right. Self-harm includes striking oneself with non-lethal implements like hands, walls, basketballs, as well as potentially lethal ones like knives, hammers, or sidewalks. Long before I was diagnosed with borderline personality, I started slapping myself as an alternative to hitting the person that was nearest me, whether that was the person triggering my rage or not; at one point I beat myself so hard and so long with walls, floors, and furniture that I went to the ER after the rage had passed, where they insisted on running X-rays and a CT scan to be sure nothing had been fractured--and I know they didn't believe me when I assured them that it was self-inflicted. The difference is, I continued to search for answers until I was diagnosed accurately, and have been getting treatment and counselling for 3 decades though the diagnosis happened less than five years ago. Daniel is an example of what I could have become if enough people hadn't been concerned over my behavior after the traumatic brain injury that has shaped my life!

  • @michaeljohnvickers9676

    @michaeljohnvickers9676

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@wendychavez5348 Well done for getting well Wendy. Keep going, and try DBT if you havant already and need /want further support

  • @wendychavez5348

    @wendychavez5348

    3 жыл бұрын

    Done. Twice. It's very good advice and I had graduated, taken a year off, and begun a second round of DBT by the time I was diagnosed. It took 2 arrests and a court order to obtain the psychiatric evaluation that confirmed what I had known for 25 years--that major depression was NOT the only thing happening inside my traumatically injured brain. Thankfully, I am finally in a good life situation with minimal triggers and a slew of understanding people around me. Thank you for your support!

  • @michaeljohnvickers9676

    @michaeljohnvickers9676

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@wendychavez5348 Most welcome Wendy, I'm glad to hear you fought to be validated and that you are living breathing your life worth living. Thank Goodness!

  • @lovelyred-dy2ts
    @lovelyred-dy2ts4 жыл бұрын

    All these sign and they didn’t asked for help from a specialist 😲

  • @LindaCasey
    @LindaCasey4 жыл бұрын

    All of the above plus hormones. I'm 71 years old and though I managed to get through life as did my siblings, divorce is the WORST thing that can happen to kids. Take away what they consider to be 'normal' and replace it with someone NEW and you're asking for trouble. I had great 'step parents' but the damage was deep I can tell you. I didn't WANT step parents. I wanted my OWN mother and father to get along. 💔

  • @latoyajames748
    @latoyajames7485 жыл бұрын

    Since his dad was sooo awesome I would have sent him to live with him!

  • @alexochoa1476

    @alexochoa1476

    4 жыл бұрын

    Bitches are too evil for that. Even if there kid's hate them Greed.

  • @ilsegrater9753

    @ilsegrater9753

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@alexochoa1476 WOW, you are one seriously messed up dude! I'm guessing you're talking from your own experience, but you cannot label all mothers like that!

  • @alexochoa1476

    @alexochoa1476

    4 жыл бұрын

    His dad left his mom His mom made him like her and now let's give him to dad Give him to dad first

  • @sly3186

    @sly3186

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@alexochoa1476 .....we got another mommy hater here! Are you a little phycho to?? Do you need attention 🤔 Or you just another pos that doesn't wanna pay child support?

  • @darkwoods1954

    @darkwoods1954

    4 жыл бұрын

    Most women would never let the father have custody.

  • @k.r.murphy4301
    @k.r.murphy43014 жыл бұрын

    She loved that he was in his room... So she didn't have to deal.

  • @francesegan8344

    @francesegan8344

    4 жыл бұрын

    so very true that child cried for help and got nothing

  • @blahblah-ov5ev

    @blahblah-ov5ev

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@francesegan8344 that childs a heartless psychopath, nothing he did was a cry for help, it was all calculated and thought out to benefit himself in some way.

  • @user-vt2zc1gu2m
    @user-vt2zc1gu2m4 жыл бұрын

    he clearly felt SUPER entitled & it’s like when he’s out..he’s gonna think the world owes him... scary

  • @davidanthony4960

    @davidanthony4960

    3 жыл бұрын

    when you are that age.. whatever you feel you are is a direct mirror of how you are brought up by your parents... he is not to blame.... he was neglected emotionally.. ad that can make kids do strange things.. as we are here seeing

  • @Youmeplus3
    @Youmeplus34 жыл бұрын

    He won’t even serve 16 years actually he’s probably out now absolutely disgusting

  • @TahtahmesDiary

    @TahtahmesDiary

    3 жыл бұрын

    Hes still locked in a max security prison for mentally ill people. Idk if he will be let out early, but I hope not!

  • @chocoboasylum
    @chocoboasylum6 жыл бұрын

    So many signs that something was going wrong with him and mom does nothing. Anybody can see that peeing on toys is not normal, never mind the defecation. That's not normal. I would have contacted a mental healthcare worker at the point of discovering the stolen underwear.

  • @HumanimalChannel

    @HumanimalChannel

    5 жыл бұрын

    not all mothers are capable and balanced. perhaps that's WHY these kids are abnormal.

  • @barbaralindhjem2488

    @barbaralindhjem2488

    4 жыл бұрын

    Dad did nothing either

  • @oOIIIMIIIOo

    @oOIIIMIIIOo

    4 жыл бұрын

    @Col83 Why did he not know? Because he did not care? Like the father of my boys? It is easy to blame it it all to the mothers...every day society grabs into the families, but if it comes to problems, blame it on the mothers. Shame on you. In puberty the role of a mother steps back. Where are the male role models?

  • @pennysue8849
    @pennysue88496 жыл бұрын

    Well my gawd how many red flags do you need before you take action! My Lord this kid was saying he wanted to kill his mom and writing stories about it ,and drawing pictures about it etc. As much as you love your kids I would have sent him off to his father and some intense therapy

  • @eljesperado

    @eljesperado

    6 жыл бұрын

    Penny Sue, the script he wrote about killing his mother was found AFTER her murder

  • @pennysue8849

    @pennysue8849

    6 жыл бұрын

    Jesperado maybe but still there were so many more

  • @aishakamara3112

    @aishakamara3112

    6 жыл бұрын

    I agree so much! The mother definately didn't deserve to be murdered by her own son, especially in the manner she was.. but I was very annoyed on how ignorant she was towards Daniel's behaviour. I mean, desinating and urinating on your items is a "normal thing that teens do", REALLY? She should of acted on Daniel and his behaviour a long time ago and got him some help

  • @tauresattauresa7137

    @tauresattauresa7137

    5 жыл бұрын

    The role of a parent just does not end because your kid behaves badly. As a parent you are the responsble one and ahe needed to take him to A&E for a psychiatric assessment.

  • @ladymopar2024

    @ladymopar2024

    5 жыл бұрын

    What seems to me that she did notice and I agree she didn't know what to do. I know some parents who know their kids are off the scale and try to get help but people do not believe the parents and say well he's just a kid. I've seen it happen too many times

  • @joshuaspector8182
    @joshuaspector81824 жыл бұрын

    "How to get away with murder?" ~Don't google 'how to' materials or make a murder play starring yourself~

  • @fos4ikancer

    @fos4ikancer

    4 жыл бұрын

    isnt that what casey anthony did? searching chloroform online?

  • @Hospitalbedss

    @Hospitalbedss

    4 жыл бұрын

    Disco Biscuits yep, and yet she still got away with it 🤦‍♀️

  • @simonyip5978

    @simonyip5978

    4 жыл бұрын

    Nowadays, a suspects online search history is one of the first things that the police check.

  • @devonbradley4372
    @devonbradley4372 Жыл бұрын

    A study has been carried out which has proven that psychopaths brains are wired diffently. Personally, I believe that all the disturbing videos he (the child) watched, including the one from Coronation Street, did have a major impact on his psyche. I think the mother may have overlooked a lot of the boy's negative behaviours because she was suffering from guilt over her failed marriage. This is a very tragic case. May the mother rest in peace.

  • @n-as1012

    @n-as1012

    Жыл бұрын

    and what about the father ? did even less

  • @erinthesystem9608

    @erinthesystem9608

    Жыл бұрын

    @@n-as1012 Ha! Good point. (The stepfather comes off looking the most parental in all of this.)

  • @angelsquire3623
    @angelsquire36234 жыл бұрын

    Why do they all keep making assumptions rather than talking with the child and asking him why he did these various things?

  • @watchgoose

    @watchgoose

    3 жыл бұрын

    that would take a highly qualified psychiatrist and psychologist specializing in this type of disorder.

  • @CBrown86
    @CBrown866 жыл бұрын

    What about their deadbeat fathers?

  • @aoclive6710

    @aoclive6710

    6 жыл бұрын

    Cheyenne Brown speaking on experience ?

  • @gc8024

    @gc8024

    6 жыл бұрын

    You mean this boys bio dad. ? I know right. He saw him on weekends. Mom should just send him off to mental health ward or DADS house. Enough of dads hiding. Also his sude of family may have had illnesses. I would want to know.

  • @gc8024

    @gc8024

    6 жыл бұрын

    AOCLIVE You ate speaking from experience

  • @aoclive6710

    @aoclive6710

    6 жыл бұрын

    G C looks like you messed up. Slow down gather your breath and relax.

  • @gc8024

    @gc8024

    6 жыл бұрын

    AOCLIVE I am. Colorado rocky mountain high

  • @mcgirlletsgo7135
    @mcgirlletsgo71353 жыл бұрын

    He was very disturbed! Who knew if abuse had gone on that he didn’t talk about. He certainly needed help!

  • @susanoconnor8430
    @susanoconnor84304 жыл бұрын

    I don't know, the small information we have about what went on in the home, it doesn't sound like she was a good mother. It is also very possible for a child to be physically or emotionally abused and still show love to that parent. This child screamed for help and no one helped him. It is not normal to steal your mother's underwear. It's not normal to defecate and urinate on your belongings. It's not normal to have a child seeking out that kind of violent media at that age (never mind being given access to it). It's not normal for a child to think inanimate objects are telling him to do things. It sounds like the family had money, and to people involved, if they had money, then they must be good parents. But nothing this mother did made it seem like she was a good mother. It doesn't mean she deserved to die, but she also hugely failed her child.

  • @tendingourgarden

    @tendingourgarden

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for this comment, well said

  • @angela21975
    @angela219754 жыл бұрын

    Sometimes very broken ppl are just broken no matter how much you analyze every step they make....

  • @purechaos454

    @purechaos454

    4 жыл бұрын

    Angela Bonnett thats right. Or how much u try and help them. Also plenty of people in worse situations would never think of doing the things this kid did 🤷🏻‍♀️ there’s no set formula for life- we’re all individuals and have to take accountability for their own actions

  • @xjjam9607
    @xjjam96076 жыл бұрын

    The music is so loud I can barely hear the presenter half the time

  • @xoalishaxo7600

    @xoalishaxo7600

    6 жыл бұрын

    Jazzymaz I can and I’ve got sinusitis at the minute 🤷🏻‍♀️

  • @SharonD369

    @SharonD369

    6 жыл бұрын

    Jazzymaz , Sorry what did you say , I can’t hear you the musics to load

  • @gc8024

    @gc8024

    6 жыл бұрын

    Lol

  • @gc8024

    @gc8024

    6 жыл бұрын

    Jazzymaz beats is good.

  • @debbieprokop912

    @debbieprokop912

    6 жыл бұрын

    Here is the same upload but with a much better quality of sound. kzread.info/dash/bejne/c6qgzrxveKi0etI.html

  • @padgepadgham3238
    @padgepadgham32384 жыл бұрын

    This piece of work needs to be kept securely and away from the general public for the rest of his miserable life

  • @cindy1274
    @cindy12744 жыл бұрын

    The doctor is absolutely right. My son had issues at 16 he got the help he needed he today is mentally I'll on meds. We must never ignore bazaar behavior

  • @TheGalacticEmperorOfLabels

    @TheGalacticEmperorOfLabels

    Жыл бұрын

    He went to a bazaar as well?

  • @gee_emm
    @gee_emm6 жыл бұрын

    but his story ISN’T over. he’ll be out by 30...😬

  • @Madamegato

    @Madamegato

    6 жыл бұрын

    Same thing I was thinking.

  • @kristieandjeff2720

    @kristieandjeff2720

    6 жыл бұрын

    gloriakmm and he will be even more dangerous when he gets out after spending that time in there with that anger building up as each day passes

  • @gee_emm

    @gee_emm

    6 жыл бұрын

    Jeff's Wife yikes!

  • @odonata9838

    @odonata9838

    6 жыл бұрын

    YIKES!!!

  • @gina1emo

    @gina1emo

    6 жыл бұрын

    Not necessarily he has to pass the parole board hearing and if deemed not ready for society then he can wait yrs til next parole hearing. Also they slowly reintegrate them bk into society with ankle monitors for awhile etc but some inmates never get released!!!

  • @CEO_Of_Racism-fk3qv
    @CEO_Of_Racism-fk3qv6 жыл бұрын

    Wow i was edgy at 14 but jeez.

  • @jennifers.3818

    @jennifers.3818

    4 жыл бұрын

    lol. right, my kid thought she was badass bc she was "Emo" 😂

  • @renn200

    @renn200

    4 жыл бұрын

    Same lol. Lasted about a year 😂

  • @reallyryan_

    @reallyryan_

    4 жыл бұрын

    He took edgy to a whole new level

  • @leilanim7338

    @leilanim7338

    4 жыл бұрын

    Jennifer S. Everyone’s been there lol. Except for kids now, they just skip the emo stage now.

  • @lunaluxx6617

    @lunaluxx6617

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@leilanim7338 yes, they seem to skip that "awkward" phase that everyone I knew went through growing up...it's like a right of passage and they are just passing it up 😂😂

  • @michaelwagner1279
    @michaelwagner12794 жыл бұрын

    This could have been a 20 minutes piece.

  • @hibi-tea
    @hibi-tea3 жыл бұрын

    Kid 100% was mentally ill. Not psychopathic, but definitely sociopathic. Mom was emotionally neglectful. She was not abusive, but early on she couldn't see that his behaviors were mental illness and later on she willfully chose not to see his behavior as mental illness. Her inaction aided in her death, but she didn't deserve it. The kid could have been mitigated with intervention of mental health professionals but he was ignored. Tragic all around.

  • @michaelharrison3602

    @michaelharrison3602

    Жыл бұрын

    A lot of mothers think that turning a blind eye to whatever their kids do is a sign of what a good loving mother they are. Violet Kray was a prime example every one in Bethnal Green knew what they were but she refused to admit that HER boys could possibly do anything wrong. Even after hearing witnesses talking about the things they did insisting that everyone else was lying Society is crazy on the one hand we admire that loyalty but condemn them when their kids go off the rails

  • @tuesdaypatience
    @tuesdaypatience6 жыл бұрын

    Yeah, the mom and her partner (and presumably his father) saw *clear* signs that something was not right with this kid well before his violence spiraled out of control, but they just buried their heads. I understand that, I really do - but when my 11yr old began showing signs of anxiety, we got her help IMMEDIATELY. We didn’t wait for it to become so big that it crippled her. And, honestly, shouldn’t every family get therapy following a divorce or other major life stressor???

  • @TigerheartedWolf

    @TigerheartedWolf

    6 жыл бұрын

    They all saw the signs. But she was in denial, deep denial. What could the step-father have done? She was clearly the type of woman who thinks her child could do no wrong and if the step-father had brought it up no doubt he would never be allowed near them again. Plus she wouldn't pay any attention.

  • @tuesdaypatience

    @tuesdaypatience

    6 жыл бұрын

    TigerheartedWolf Sadly, I think you're probably right. But the stepdad /mom's boyfriend could have tried to step up more up get the kid help - even if that meant making the mom mad. What's more important? And the biological father, if he's in the picture at all, should have done something, as well. With ALL these teenage killers - really almost 100% of them - there have been signs that people either chose to ignore or refused to acknowledge or address. We fail as parents when we do either of those. Our kids are HUMAN...there are some who are going to have mental health struggles and it's *OUR RESPONSIBILITY* to help them when this happens, not bury our heads in the sand.

  • @fauxmanchu8094

    @fauxmanchu8094

    6 жыл бұрын

    TigerheartedWolf 👍👍👍

  • @irvinglevere2348

    @irvinglevere2348

    6 жыл бұрын

    Old cheek pimple

  • @HumanimalChannel

    @HumanimalChannel

    5 жыл бұрын

    ever think the mother has her own problems and shortcomings?

  • @ij8084
    @ij80845 жыл бұрын

    I truly believe there were signs there before the divorce. This sort of behavior starts at an early age. He's a psychopath...

  • @rengurenge

    @rengurenge

    4 жыл бұрын

    Problematic children is often reason for divorce. Takes lots of sacrifice to raise normal children, imagine how hard is to raise child with mental illness. Fathers usually are first to run away from problems.

  • @kalitaylor9064
    @kalitaylor90644 жыл бұрын

    This could've been avoided had an actual adult been parenting and sought help for this kid who couldn't process anything properly.

  • @TeaCup1940

    @TeaCup1940

    2 жыл бұрын

    I agree.

  • @fredajordan5704
    @fredajordan5704 Жыл бұрын

    If I today as a 66yrs old person think back and imagine my caring parents had a divvorce (and while their 49yr marriage they had their problems, too) , I had to change school and my beloved home residence, maybe lost some dear friends and more negative and hurtful facts come into my life I don`t know how I would have turned out...Daniel showed many signs of severe disturbance in many ways, seems as if no one cared. Now it`s too late,

  • @xmarijeeemj
    @xmarijeeemj6 жыл бұрын

    You called it a serial killer documentary when there's only one victim.

  • @brittaolson6550

    @brittaolson6550

    5 жыл бұрын

    Marr Morrissey This channel always does that 🤬

  • @izy2586

    @izy2586

    4 жыл бұрын

    Trust me

  • @wicketuma444

    @wicketuma444

    4 жыл бұрын

    The poor Star Wars figures

  • @kalvinlabuik3366

    @kalvinlabuik3366

    4 жыл бұрын

    Mar that true Danial only killed one person serial killers as term goes kills many as in series hence serial killer so you absolutely right call that out

  • @milkshakemuncher

    @milkshakemuncher

    4 жыл бұрын

    To be classified as a serial killer there must be at least 3 victims killed in a series of attacks, not at once and no fewer than three. So you are absolutely correct, the killer in this case is just that, an ordinary murderer, not serial killer. So misleading of the channel.

  • @inmydarkesthour2278
    @inmydarkesthour22786 жыл бұрын

    Do people actually listen to these documentaries? The presenter and specialist agree that watching horror has not been proven to lead to psychotic behavior! The mom seems like she was in total denial and yes neglectful and didn't they smell what he was doing in his room??? Wow.....i think it could have been avoided....

  • @veronica4745
    @veronica47454 жыл бұрын

    This poor woman obviously had no idea how to deal with her son i don't think blaming her is helpful, the situation overall needs to be looked at

  • @kah3773
    @kah37733 жыл бұрын

    It all comes down to childhood trauma, he obviously wasnt having his feelings validated, possibly his feelings about the divorce of his parents, he needed help to heal his trauma, its a shame it had to go so far as murder...

  • @clastorari

    @clastorari

    2 жыл бұрын

    no its not. no emotional trauma is strong enough to cause something like a mental disorder or psychopathy.

  • @lukeleary1333
    @lukeleary13336 жыл бұрын

    Convict: What are you in for? Kid: Corrie.

  • @gina1emo

    @gina1emo

    6 жыл бұрын

    Luke Leary -kid: The Coronation Street Murder😂😂😂

  • @simplysarah5926

    @simplysarah5926

    6 жыл бұрын

    Luke Leary lol

  • @j.mariethompson981

    @j.mariethompson981

    6 жыл бұрын

    Same lol

  • @evilvhs2728

    @evilvhs2728

    5 жыл бұрын

    Looooool

  • @michelesmith8645

    @michelesmith8645

    5 жыл бұрын

    Ones can't handle a divorce then ur not going to make it in life.Im so glad my parents are an been divorced.Together their not good,no abuse or anything but just not good so with that said ones need to explain why it happened in the first place and just let them know triple gifts and triple Birthdays an that the kid or kids are still loved,it don't change that and help them get use to it an know why its better to be divorced.Thats what I did with my kids and their glad their dad and I aren't together.In life many things are alot worse then a divorce.With mental illness as he had an has would be there regardless,divorced or not.

  • @adrianaleon7413
    @adrianaleon74136 жыл бұрын

    Come on,! I’m a mother there was WAY SO MANY signs of emotional disturbance, and She didn’t do nothing but QUESTION HIM?. this dr. Is right, the boy was emocional neglected. A mother totally involve in her own world and the partner the same.

  • @kylianmbappe8389

    @kylianmbappe8389

    6 жыл бұрын

    Adriana Leon Oh so it's his mother's fault that she didn't know that her own son was plotting to kill her?

  • @zeberdee1972

    @zeberdee1972

    5 жыл бұрын

    Adriana Leon , I think your 100% right and I would even add to that , that the lack of attention from his Mother was probably that her Son reminded her of her Ex Husband . Hence the neglect .

  • @denisemanfre9542

    @denisemanfre9542

    5 жыл бұрын

    What about the younger brother

  • @victorbeardman1610

    @victorbeardman1610

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@zeberdee1972 Seems like the mother needed more help than her son then.

  • @poophead1503

    @poophead1503

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@kylianmbappe8389 it was the mothers fault for not taking her underage CHILD to a frickin doctor

  • @dani.obrien9307
    @dani.obrien93073 жыл бұрын

    Imagine a murderer is behind this screen watching this at the same time as you.

  • @user-ps5zj7wk5x

    @user-ps5zj7wk5x

    3 ай бұрын

    Imagine being watched daily by one that has no regard for you as a person or your privacy. Could you cope?

  • @janethollman7894
    @janethollman7894 Жыл бұрын

    How sad that the signs got missed but hindsight is a wonderful thing.

  • @rochellesmith7860
    @rochellesmith78606 жыл бұрын

    cant hear the talking over the music :(

  • @tanyabowman6597

    @tanyabowman6597

    5 жыл бұрын

    It's fine if u have head phones

  • @bass13mary
    @bass13mary6 жыл бұрын

    My disabled son has never defecated nor urinated in his room. He is held responsible and loves his job and friends.

  • @bencrossley9532

    @bencrossley9532

    4 жыл бұрын

    Lol.

  • @annacoolmum5961

    @annacoolmum5961

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yes my niece has downs syndrome and she wouldnt do that. 🤔🤨😐😑😶🙄😏

  • @SerpentKiss11
    @SerpentKiss114 жыл бұрын

    Yeah, well...it sounds like to me the mom ignored the signs that something was mentally and emotionally not right with her son. I am not saying that gave him the right to kill his mom, but who knows what was going on that (perhaps) provoked him to deal with this violently. He needed help and was denied that to save face. That's what I see.

  • @asantiago8379

    @asantiago8379

    3 жыл бұрын

    Honestly! I was shocked at everything she laughed off?!?? How many more signs did she want?!?

  • @karlheinz4265

    @karlheinz4265

    3 жыл бұрын

    She was as sick as him...

  • @dwayne_dibley

    @dwayne_dibley

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@karlheinz4265 yeah I reckon both parents had issues themselves that were factors along with many other things that led to this dreadful event

  • @julianhanrahan1116
    @julianhanrahan11163 жыл бұрын

    after watching this i feel like my search history is on a watch list for sure

  • @stillanastasia5623
    @stillanastasia56236 жыл бұрын

    Just a whole lot of speculation

  • @ididntknowthat059
    @ididntknowthat0595 жыл бұрын

    I was affronted when Mr McIntyre started this show with the statement about "the son and their mothers". You do realise that most of these children who murder and murder their mothers come from broken homes or dysfunctional families so why was the father's absence apart from weekend visits, does one NOT think this might be part of the problem?

  • @oOIIIMIIIOo

    @oOIIIMIIIOo

    4 жыл бұрын

    My words. It is a society problem, too. Grabbing into families every day, but if it comes to problems, blame it on the mothers.

  • @pixiewings21_9

    @pixiewings21_9

    Жыл бұрын

    It probably *is* part of the problem, but rightly or wrongly, the role of 'nurturer' has typically fallen to the mother (or the person in that role)... It's perhaps simplistic but the theory is known as 'nature vs nurture' 🤷‍♀️

  • @Suguri
    @Suguri4 жыл бұрын

    Oh, guess all my friends and I are bloodthirsty psychopaths because we watched horror movies as kids. Please inform me of my body count, might need it for taxes.

  • @AlesyaAlexandrova
    @AlesyaAlexandrova4 жыл бұрын

    Watching these programmes, I have only one question. There are many people who go through strange behaviours while young and that doesn't make them murder people. Looking at my childhood and youth one would say I tick all the boxes but I am nowhere near to hurt anyone. Just a pathetic attempt to explain behaviour that no one can explain. Why some people kill and others don't.

  • @user-nu5nv1yg5r
    @user-nu5nv1yg5r6 жыл бұрын

    I like it how the experts refrain from telling that the boy was schisophrenic. When a person starts pooping all around that's clearly psychosis, not "a cry for attention".

  • @sarahlamb2333

    @sarahlamb2333

    Жыл бұрын

    Stealing mums underwear is signs of incest towards his mother.. They seem to minimise that as him just being naught.. Wtf they can't link it to incest even after he kills her

  • @davidlafferty1357
    @davidlafferty13576 жыл бұрын

    Actually love the advert for this on TV ... Serial killers and their mudder's 😂 gets me every time

  • @shelby8386
    @shelby83864 жыл бұрын

    This could have been a really interesting docc, except the music and sound effects are so loud it drowns everything else out.

  • @lizmunt9116

    @lizmunt9116

    3 жыл бұрын

    Horrible

  • @lizmunt9116

    @lizmunt9116

    3 жыл бұрын

    Heinous

  • @lizmunt9116

    @lizmunt9116

    3 жыл бұрын

    Hideous man

  • @lizmunt9116

    @lizmunt9116

    3 жыл бұрын

    Bollox

  • @lizmunt9116

    @lizmunt9116

    3 жыл бұрын

    Bollox

  • @Lisa1111
    @Lisa1111 Жыл бұрын

    You can see the light leave this poor boys eyes 💔

  • @missmandy2049
    @missmandy20496 жыл бұрын

    I've been watching horror flicks since age 7 or 8 & at 37 I still love them. I disagree that this is a factor. Something was already wrong & the added stress of everything that came with the divorce was probably the breaking point. I also think he was probably spoiled as well & that all came to an abrupt end with the divorce. But many kids grew up watching horror flicks & are perfectly fine people.

  • @jeffjustice7786

    @jeffjustice7786

    6 жыл бұрын

    MissMandy I agree

  • @nobodytheogoftheyoungguncr6350

    @nobodytheogoftheyoungguncr6350

    6 жыл бұрын

    Absolutely! The movies and games we play have NOTHING to do with how we act. I play nothing but harvest moon, but i dont however have a farm 😂

  • @gc8024

    @gc8024

    6 жыл бұрын

    I know i play games and horror flicks. 53.

  • @latoyatv2030

    @latoyatv2030

    6 жыл бұрын

    Nobody Of The Young Gun Crew Ok what's Harvest Moon.?

  • @nobodytheogoftheyoungguncr6350

    @nobodytheogoftheyoungguncr6350

    6 жыл бұрын

    LaToya Banks farming game, its been renamed to story of seasons here in the us. I mean i know its not like black ops or something,and them are the type of games that get blamed for violence, but my point is, if them games cause violence, then why dont i have fields of crops growing? Same principal.

  • @martasylwia9917
    @martasylwia99174 жыл бұрын

    If my child behave in such a way (soiling clothes etc) I wouldn't hesitate to look for professional help

  • @TheDboy76
    @TheDboy764 жыл бұрын

    So after all the violent videos and horror films, it was Coronation Street that set him on his murderous ways, now you couldn't write that!!!

  • @orangge386
    @orangge3864 жыл бұрын

    Seems like he was living his life in a room.Very sad.

  • @nicholasplotnick3673
    @nicholasplotnick36735 жыл бұрын

    No condom commercial could hold a torch to this documentary. Wrap it before you tap it people

  • @fallyneprinciotta9058

    @fallyneprinciotta9058

    4 жыл бұрын

    Needs to be a new slogan for condom commercials!!! Wrap it b4 u tap it!!!!

  • @ilsegrater9753

    @ilsegrater9753

    4 жыл бұрын

    Hilarious!!! Really good one.

  • @poppyfield1619

    @poppyfield1619

    4 жыл бұрын

    😃

  • @desanson

    @desanson

    4 жыл бұрын

    😂😂😂👍

  • @keyjanacobb5771

    @keyjanacobb5771

    4 жыл бұрын

    😂

  • @alexisgordon2759
    @alexisgordon27596 жыл бұрын

    Correction, a lovingly emotionally neglectful family

  • @donaDsejdiu793
    @donaDsejdiu7934 жыл бұрын

    He constantly keeps saying could she have done anything to correct his behavior.What could she do?She was already tired of his violent temper outburst and him picking on his younger brother.There's nothing she could of done to stop him he already started watching violent crimes and became fascinated by them and exited so he wanted to try something else by killing her.It's horrible.She could of asked for help and take him to a psychiatric clinic to know what is going on with him and why is he acting out instead she just ignored his behavior and he got worse.

  • @emmiem6159
    @emmiem61593 жыл бұрын

    The parents needed to step in and help, they needed to speak to him about the more private facts about the divorce, not all of them of course... but to help the kid understand. You have to stay present, get closer even and be better as a parent, divorce means you have to step up more. You cant try to just give them what they want and handle it themselves... parents cant try to make them have the same life, it wont be the same and they will have pent up emotions... my parents told me and it helped so much... I adapted to all of the change because I knew why it was happening and that it would be better and okay for everyone's feelings.