Videos like this make me realise why KZread is (occasionally) priceless.....

AMAZINGLY BEAUTIFUL SCENES FROM A SADLY LOST WORLD.

@evanhenton3381

2 ай бұрын

I know! Me and my girlfriend stumbled across part of the railway today have been doing research about it for hours. It’s amazing how much has been lost!

Wow. this brings back so many happy memories from childhood .i am now 80 and can remember those times .i spent many ,many hours on the platforms at Victoria a huge cathedral of a station .

Highly evocative, powerful reminder of the wonderful heritage casually tossed away by beggarly bean counters.

I spent many happy hours at Victoria wonderful days great memories

Excellent video. Thanks to Marples and Beeching, a lot of railway branch lines were lost. Including this fantastic piece of architecture.

@reynardbizzar5461

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks to the Labour Government in power at the time you mean. Nothing to do with Marples : Beeching only produced a report. It was the people that shut the railways for not using them by switching to cars. But h yes they all turned out on the last day!

@andrewtaylor5984

Жыл бұрын

The Beeching Report was published in March 1963, when the Conservatives were still in office. Labour won the General Election in October 1964. Their promise that there would be no further rail closures proved to be false, or rather, a line could still be closed if formal notice had been given before the 1964 General Election. In any case, the Midland station could have been closed, and traffic diverted to Victoria. If the line had remained under Eastern Region control, it would surely have remained open. It was British Railways policy at that time to have all places served by one region only, with the obvious exception of London. In 1958, when the line was transferred, the London Midland Region deliberately reduced the service on the Great Central line. Under Eastern Region control, the line was certainly breaking even, and could have been profitable. Ironically, in the late nineteenth century, Nottingham's councillors were all in favour of Victoria Station. They had been complaining for years that the city lacked a centrally sited station, with both the Midland Station, and London Road Low Level being a long way from the City Centre.

If Nottingham Victoria railway station did still exist today. Then it would have connections to Lincoln, Sheffield, Derby, Manchester and other destinations. And the existing Nottingham Midland station (now Nottingham) would have trains coming from London St. Pancras and possibly the 2 stations would have been near to each other. Marvellous video.

Spent many hours here. Massive cavernous station full of atmosphere and good variety of LNER and LMS locos

What an amazing station it was where all those tracks converged and disappeared down that little tunnel! A lovely video and the music just right!

This is a lovely clip, these locos may be gone now, but they're not forgotten, thank you for posting it.

Having visited the Victoria Centre many times, its nice to see what came before.

There is no better example of the short sighted transport policies of the 1960s than the closure of the Great Central, the last mainline built and the only one to the European gauge. I lived in Leicester from 1958 to 1960 and then in Nottingham to 1963. While in Nottingham I travelled twice weekly to Leicester on the Great Central - quicker and more reliable. Between the two cities the drivers did not hang about. I always travelled to London on the Great Central. The final dismal days were appalling. I have memories. While in Nottingham I took my girlfriend to see John Coltrane at the De Montfort Hall. He was so good we stayed on and missed the 10.46 pm back to Nottingham. It was a long wait until the mail train came in the early hours.

@porno6361

4 жыл бұрын

Philip Ashbourn happy days,would loved to have travelled its entirety

@peterhenshaw1655

4 жыл бұрын

My father, Jack Henshaw, then Yardmaster at Nottingham, came home after 'locking up' for the last time - 38 keys for all the doors on the station. He was a broken man - a career railwayman and enthusiast. He only needed one last 'cop' to complete his post war sightings - WD austerity 90706 I think - he traced it to a scrap yard in the north east only to find it broken up. His last role was Chief Investigator NE - SW routes based at Derby where in addition to travelling the route (Penzance to Aberdeen) regularly, he introduced the HST sets - a quantum leap in speed, reliability and comfort.

@Hurc7495

2 жыл бұрын

Unfortunately it wasn’t so forgivable as to be called short sighted. Marples had a clear conflict of interest and knew exactly what he was doing. He’d fit right in with the current lot!

@tobys_transport_videos

Жыл бұрын

Marples would fit right in with the current Victorian government here in Australia! Our current Premier is accused of corruption, amongst other things. He answers less questions than most politicians! His current catch phrase is "that's a matter for the Party to look into."

BRilliant!! a remarkable display of Nottingham history!!!

The steam power of the '30s and '40s is amazing. Most power units went far beyond the maintenance intervals and kept working until it was absolutely needed. Tires on the drivers, for instance. Good lads operating them helped a lot! Both here in the U.S and in England, most importantly. Good guys!

A lovely classic film of this once magnificent station, how they got away with closing the GCR and demolishing such an attractive building is beyond me. This railway should have been kept as a freight route and would have been ideal for the modern container trains. Think the stay of execution for the GCR came after Beeching's time, just to say that successive governments wouldn't save it. What a shame, we're paying for this loss today. Nottingham and Leicester seem to be doing their utmost best to eradicate this railway from the landscape.

@paulwilson3083

4 жыл бұрын

The freight on the Great Central actually made a profit right up to when it was withdrawn south of Nottingham in 1965.

@johnjephcote7636

Жыл бұрын

That line opened 1901 with no level crossings and to the Berne loading gauge and HS2 could have used most of the route built with so much care and with so much treasure, all the way up to Sheffield. As Shakespeare in Othello states about the 'Indian' who threw away a pearl worth more than all his tribe. If only we had a concept of strategic reserve for disused railway formations.

Hi it's me again Phil I worked trains in to this station in the 60s when I was at Trafford Park shed Regards Phil.

With all these old stations and sheds didn’t fade away into just abandoned lanr

The 1960s were spoiled for me in seeing the deliberate destruction of British Railways. Richard Beeching was chairman of the British Railways Board, 1961-65, and was so keen for a giant proportion of the system to be eliminated. What madness to put into power a man who had such little care for the industry. Nottingham Victoria was one of the finest stations in the country, and served many places not reached directly by the Midland station. We live in an age when railways are appreciated, but it’s too late to retrieve most of the fine railway routes and buildings that were discarded.

@andrewtaylor5984

Жыл бұрын

And Beeching would do the job only if he was paid his ICI salary of £24000. His predecessor, Sir Brian Robertson, earned £10000, and that was big money in 1961.

@tobys_transport_videos

Жыл бұрын

Beeching and Marples both amount to White Collar Criminals. What they did to British Railways virtually amounts to Treason. As a well-read Brit I think you know what the punishment for Treason once was...

@robertweissman4850

Жыл бұрын

@@tobys_transport_videos MGV - Good comments!

Some years ago I came into the car park below Victoria Shopping Centre and took a photo from the same position (then on a platform) that I had taken a photo of my train changing engines on the last day of through services to Marylebone, 3rd September 1966.

This is where I first sat up in my pram unaided....1959 😮

Beautiful😍❤

I never knew this station... Most of the time, all i saw was the clock tower, and the centre beside it.

I’d love to see a video on Queensbury station 😉

Reperchese the plot of land. Move the shopping centre. And replace/replicate/rebuild the station.

@scottishtransportvideos264

3 жыл бұрын

Great idea

@tobys_transport_videos

Жыл бұрын

How many trillions of pounds do you have? This would make HS2 seem cheap in comparison! Add to that you have two (soon to be just one) awesome Heritage Railways running trains over parts of the line in the Leicester and Loughborough areas. The remaining grandeur of the old Great Central Railway would be destroyed with concrete and glass, along with computerisation. It would show all that is wrong with current 21st Century life on this planet... 😔

HS2 ready made before the mad government closed a perfectly good train route through the middle of the country with European loading gauge 😂

@stephensmith799

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly Right!

@andrewtaylor5984

Жыл бұрын

It is not strictly true that the railway was built to Continental loading gauge, as that was not established until about ten years after the London Extension was built. The railway was built to more generous dimensions than most of the British network, with the possible exception of the GW Broad Gauge lines.

@johnjephcote7636

Жыл бұрын

Precisely. Our governments have done more harm than any so-called 'enemy' ever did (human lives excepted).

Whoever shot this had a great film sense. All images well framed and begun and ended at pertinent points. What a waste, everything on this is gone. GCR, locomotives and the station. Would a steam soundtrack improve it? Possibly but it's still good.

Like the way you just let the images speak for themselves.

@desperatemohammedantheworl5833

4 жыл бұрын

I know, was about to post the same thing. The music makes this bordering on unwatchable.

@RHR-221b

4 жыл бұрын

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@desperatemohammedantheworl5833

4 жыл бұрын

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@RHR-221b

4 жыл бұрын

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@desperatemohammedantheworl5833

4 жыл бұрын

@@RHR-221b I have no idea what you are on about.

Love the video, but infuriated that all this infrastructure was just thrown away

I think the tunnel is still there

My family worked at the station every one said it was a sad loss to Nottingham and they said should of been Midland to close

So much goods traffic back then

@andrewtaylor5984

Жыл бұрын

Unfortunately, much of the traffic was wagonload, which Beeching wanted to get rid of. The Annesley to Woodford freights were among the best run in the country, and drivers would see if they could manage two return trips in one shift. Both Annesley and Woodford had substantial marshalling yards, another feature which Beeching had no use for.

It's not Nottingham Victoria now, the station name is now Stepford Victoria or u can call it SV

@scottishtransportvideos264

3 жыл бұрын

It was closed along time ago sadly that is in roblox

The closure of not only Nottingham Victoria station but the whole Great Central Railway itself was such a waste! I get the distinct impression (but obviously I have no proof) that there was some old rivalry between the LMS and the LNER, and someone in the former LNER didn't like the LMS, or, for whatever stupid reason, the Great Central Railway, and therefore agreed with the Beeching recommendation that the GCR be closed.

@porno6361

4 жыл бұрын

Who needs HS2 when we could have still had this?

@highdownmartin

4 жыл бұрын

porno6361 it actually wouldn’t have been a really fast route but the traffic capacity would have been invaluable now. Properly run the wcml is plenty good enough to serve brum and Manchester and more traffic could run up the gcr. Shockingly shortsighted.

@porno6361

4 жыл бұрын

highdownmartin it sure was short sighted,look at the towns that lost their railway connection when this shut,admittedly some had stations on the midland route but the capacity would have been shared,if it was still open in it’s entirety it would have been well used,look what almost happened to St.Pancras,thank god fo good old John for his campaign to keep it open,if that had shut as well East and West coast mainlines would be stuffed up with traffic

@timothyparsons8327

4 жыл бұрын

At one time it was intended to utilize the Great Central route as a strategic Main Line linking Europe (primarily) with the industrial conurbations of Central and Northern England via the Channel Tunnel, with an emphasis on freight. Had this survived into the 21st century it would invariably been a likely candidate for HS2, with much potential for future development and expansion.

@porno6361

4 жыл бұрын

Timothy Parsons true,and having gentle curves would have been ideal for high(ish)speed running,alas,only a “what if” scenario now thanks to politicians and bean counters

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COOL STORY BRO

@AndrewG1989

3 жыл бұрын

Such a shit meme

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What a waste of a good railway station