50 yrs wiring houses here. It really “pisses” me off when amateurs claim to be experts on YT and publish inaccurate information or promote their quirks as if those things were actual best practices.

@ryanrasmussen2229

5 күн бұрын

Amen

@martincoronado9232

Күн бұрын

One of my students just wired up something after he watched some “professional” do it and I told him that that is not correct

@davidorcutt9246

Күн бұрын

Yup

@MikeSmith-cl4ix

Күн бұрын

You beat me to it. 😂

@coreyfranco7060

11 сағат бұрын

Yes I wouldn't even consider any of the 3 or 4 things mentioned here

Wheres the service entrance cable going up to main breaker? Are you going to wrestle 4/0 cable from the bottom conduit up past all the nice neat romex now?!😂

@paisaconstructiondavid1964

6 күн бұрын

Valid point same question?

@BobClarizio

6 күн бұрын

@paisaconstructiondavid1964 it’s a modular home and those will go in on site and will be copper cable

A valid reason has been explained for not using the highest amperage and then down to the lowest is because the highest amperage produces the most heat when the most current is used - so all of the heat production is in the one area.

@illwil2158

9 күн бұрын

It makes zero difference what breaker goes where, period....

@Vegan123

9 күн бұрын

@@illwil2158 Examine it when in full use with a thermal camera and then decide again.

@Rossm812

5 күн бұрын

​@illwil2158 it absolutely can depending on the stab limit of the panel you're using.

@davidh5899

2 күн бұрын

​@@Vegan123as long as it is a balanced load on both sides... it doesn't matter to any degree.

Yeah but once that panel covers on no one gives af.

@BobClarizio

5 күн бұрын

Or do they…..????

What’s with the excess sheathing still on the wires at the top?

@BobClarizio

12 күн бұрын

I’m not sure what happened

bosses don't allow you time to do it that good

@BobClarizio

10 күн бұрын

Hahaha

What drives me nuts is when you don't work from the bottom up and the loads aren't balanced. 😁

@BobClarizio

11 күн бұрын

I agree

I agree. It's annoying when panels are unorganized. How did you Arc fault your curcuits? Unless those piss you off too

@BobClarizio

15 күн бұрын

When I’m building these tiny houses the code for them doesn’t require arc fault however they do require that the whole house is high pot tested. Which I’m gonna make a small video about that in the next couple of days the machine sends thousands of volts through the lines and can detect way more than an ark can

@hustlinghard8081

15 күн бұрын

​@BobClarizio what the hell is a high pot test?

@BobClarizio

15 күн бұрын

@hustlinghard8081 there is a convenient link to a very boring ass hour long video explaining what the hell a high pot test is 😆 I plan to make a short video about the machine in the next few days that will quickly get to the point basically it’s a high-powered arc fault test

@BobClarizio

15 күн бұрын

@hustlinghard8081 kzread.info/dash/bejne/ZZWt2o9rd7i4ZdI.htmlsi=ddKpGs4eGyeVZ5zI

@twillison8824

15 күн бұрын

​@hustlinghard8081 that's what I do when I get home from work daily.

i saw a video that you dont put all high amps next to each other as it creates too much heat in one place and melts breakers,so you should spread them, so dont put dryer next to stove, or water heater also balance your load on each leg

I always wonder why? Why we as electricians act like my way is better than yours?,do it this way, your labels suck and why did you route your wire that way or this other way? And act like loosing your cool for something that is not to your likeness, if a panel looks relatively clean and is free or shorts, ground faults, ungrounded wires are terminated up to code and the grounding wires are also terminated properly, i will not care about anything else, looks good and it works as intended its all it matters to me. You strive to make some Picasso art work, good for you and if that makes you happy more power to you. When i started, i was thought to leave extra wire in the panel they call that "service loop" and if i didn't do it a boatload of shit was raining over me, then i started using a Bradley label maker to make my labesl look good and only God saved me that time!! My supervisor was so pissed off that threaten me with getting fired for " not being consistent with the other panels and i have to ripped my labels off and put strip number labels from the wire books, never did wire sleeves but definitely i can tell look amazing. If a panel looks like crap, yes by all means destroy the imbecile that made that, specially if he is an electrician but if it is just that you dont like it ; come on man, if it works and is safe, cut it some slack

@BobClarizio

14 күн бұрын

Because it’s how we get by 😆

This week on, "I'm an apprentice electrician", we've got Blake. Blake is going to explain what he believes to be dumb. Blake has a lot to learn folks. Lets get to it!

It does not affect the transfer of power on a buss where you place your higher amp draw breakers..mostly residential application mind you…..typically each circuit is not in use 100 percent of the time…and not at its full rating…so a twenty amp single pole and a twenty amp two pole might only max out at 12 amps anyway…a balance of loads is usually more important..and leaving enough wire on all leads to rearrange the panel if required is for me the most important feature…and labeling correctly! And not many technicians know or will flip the buss or the whole panel for bottom feed services..

Jesus, the second one is pretty damn ridiculous.

What about if you have electrical service box with a boat like a plug-in but the code enforcement is not worried about it so we don't fix it the customer say he said the current appointments right about the fence but not worried about the house bone and down

A good mechanic would never bring the feeder in the center or panel. Install it to the side the terminals are on main breaker.

@kenbrown2808

6 күн бұрын

those main breakers have a horizontal throw so you can mount the panel inverted.

If you can invest in a brady label maker. Saves time and looks nicer then hand printing the tags. Can make nice neat shrink tube labels for the conductors and adhesive strips for the panel front. If building lots of these units you can have them all printed and ready to go. Finding nice clean panels is always a very welcome rare sight for me! Good work

But are the phases balanced

@BobClarizio

15 күн бұрын

Absolutely check it oyt

I don't know where you are located, but every real electrician shows their skill by the organization and order in which they trim the main panel box.. as far as putting additional labels on the hots under the panel cover? I never need to do that because my jobs are done correctly and there is no need to take the cover off when I'm finished with my job.

@BobClarizio

8 күн бұрын

Not sure where your perfect world is but I’d love to live there 😝

@kenbrown2808

6 күн бұрын

just a question, but... how do you know what to put on the panel schedule, since you don't track your home runs by labeling them as you terminate them on the breaker?

You shouldn't install the high amperage first base on tidiness, it has to be because of balance of loads, hope that helps

@BobClarizio

5 күн бұрын

Thanks for sharing

My Pet Peeve…Not a surge suppressor under the main breaker ☺️

Drives me crazy when you dont follow code. Building not dried in

Right off, that panel for a tiny house?

@BobClarizio

5 күн бұрын

Yes

@johnypitman2368

5 күн бұрын

@@BobClarizio yes what?

@BobClarizio

5 күн бұрын

It’s a tiny house

I am confused, if that is a tiny house why such a large panel, wouldn't a olds Wadsworth four fuse box look better? Seriously nice neat panel

I see a conduit on the bottom. I assume that’s for the main feed coming in. In that case, why is the main breaker on top? Shouldn’t the main breaker be on the bottom that way the feeder lines don’t need to be as long?

Nobody cares about what drives you nuts or pisses you off, a good electrician just gets the job done or doesn't take the job that's it. NOBODY CARES

@BobClarizio

9 күн бұрын

Well I’m glad you cared enough to say something

Huh, I always start with the main service wiring first. Then the grounds, then the neutrals and last the hots. And yes double pole breakers to the top, then the 20's and last the 15's.

You're gonna ruin it when you add the feeder. Panel already looks like shit. Lol youtube professionals

@BobClarizio

4 күн бұрын

lol commenting professionals

I liked it when they put the second floor on the top part of the panel. The first floor in the middle of the panel. And the basement on the bottom of the panel.

@BobClarizio

15 күн бұрын

lol thats crazy 😝

That's some serious pro teir panel work. Only thing I'd add is labeling the breaker number on the recepticles in the house. Then you know which breaker is tripped before you even get to this immaculately laid out panel

@BobClarizio

15 күн бұрын

Thank you, thank you that’s very kind of you to say and great idea. Hope you subscribe.

I hate when “pros” in my area (D.C.) twist a half dozen branch grounds into one box-length liquorish whip. I also hate it when it’s left unprotected and conductors and breakers are packed in joint compounds and covered in overspray. I hate when they over or under torque….or mount the box crooked. I could go on…wish all electricians were more like you!

@BobClarizio

10 күн бұрын

Thanks man!

Man, I’d love to get into electrical, but there are absolutely zero technical schools or tradesmen around my area.

@bloodyrage82

15 күн бұрын

Start calling electricians, apprenticeship is always a good option, and OTJ is the best way to learn

@BobClarizio

14 күн бұрын

The dollar waits for no one

@BobClarizio

14 күн бұрын

For a second I thought read OJ 🤦‍♂️

Like the labeling

@BobClarizio

15 күн бұрын

Thanks man really appreciate it! What have you been working on lately?

Ya put all the high amp breakers together below the main so all the heat can trip the main easier😅

@BobClarizio

15 күн бұрын

That’s pretty illogical. How about path of least resistance and we don’t want the high amperage breakers far away from the main lugs the closer the better

@illwil2158

9 күн бұрын

​@@BobClariziohow about it doesn't matter what breakers go where...how about you should be using a meter main and also separating neutrals and grounds.... 🤡

@yurmeinperez7541

7 күн бұрын

@@BobClarizio hey can you elaborate more on why you put higher amp breakers near the main

@BobClarizio

7 күн бұрын

@yurmeinperez7541 cuts down on the amount of large gauge wires in the panel

Follow the print. The circuits are specked out for there number of designation. Copy and paste, panel schedule done. No need to make tags writing on romex. Waste of time IMO.

@BobClarizio

15 күн бұрын

I guess

Less complaining more working

@BobClarizio

10 күн бұрын

But whyyyyyyy

The only time i have seen or done higher amps lower on the circuit is usually because it was added on later

@BobClarizio

14 күн бұрын

💯 me too

i'm pretty much the same way. and i did not do it on purpose but my fuse box in is the middle of the of my house on the back wall. and it turns out EVERYTHING on the right side of the box is on the right side of the side of the house and vise versa.

@BobClarizio

15 күн бұрын

Interesting 🤔

When i make up my panels i put all the 220v on one side when possible. I had a guy working with me one day that looked at me and ask hiw come i didn't put half on one side and half on the other side to balance panel more. I looked him in the eye and said really hmmm ab,ab,ab,ab all wa down with no heavy liads right across from each other you cant do any better than that. Because i cant stand to see a 2pole 60/2 across from a 2pole 60/2 or 50/2. Ibe replaced alot of panels where buss burned up because of crap like that And as far as tagging the romex with a sleeve with circuit identity on it yes ive been doing that since 1987 I also cant stand and will not use the home-line panel with the plastic top and bottom that has notches for romex. Idm old school i still use tomex connectors. But not old enough to use a butterfly connector

@BobClarizio

9 күн бұрын

That’s an interesting way to look at it

@clintjohnson7023

9 күн бұрын

@@BobClarizio it makes the most sense

@BobClarizio

9 күн бұрын

I love butterfly connectors

@clintjohnson7023

9 күн бұрын

@@BobClarizio to each his own . I jyst find it easier when doing a panel change to be able to slip a lock nut off. Then try and get to the screws on a butterfly connector then fight it with rimex in it to get it out of panel. I don't use pop in bushings either. I know many do and in can lights but I still prefer romex connectors. And I don't 6se those dang stab in connections inside the cans I cut them out strip the wire and use my lineman to twist a good connection and use wire nuts.

You shouldn't have the breakers in until all devices and lights are installed

@user-nk5qk6di5p

2 күн бұрын

I had elec. Inspector made me breaker whole 6000 Sq ft . I was pissed called his boss. He got canned. How dangerous

I can not stand the labels like that. You undo 2 breakers. And labels fall of then what? I have always left 3-4in of sheathing inside the panel and lable it directly on the wire. And plus inside looks great but loose wires above lol

@BobClarizio

14 күн бұрын

That’s what I’m saying

It doesn't matter where you put the breakers a 200amp panel is 200amp top to bottom. You panel looks unprofessional when large service conductor goes in last.

Talk about a whiner. You do realize that cover probably won't come off for 10 or more years.

@BobClarizio

9 күн бұрын

My mother always told me it’s what’s on the inside that counts

How you gonna wrestle the main feed up through all that pretty ??

I get the breaker layout. I'm more anal starting with the two highest one on odd one on even constantly trying to balance load. When it's a standard 120v breaker the ground is landed the the neutral the the hot all three inline so I can go to any panel I made up and look and this ground or neutral goes to this circuit. Labels go on the breaker body it's self not the conductor.

@BobClarizio

15 күн бұрын

Yeah, it really drives me crazy when people are sopping in the panels because it always screws the next guy

no issue with any thing you said but labeling the wires with a flammable product directly on the wire but teh most important thing is not my way is better it is does it meat code and is it connected properly and some times OCD can lead to Failures ....so my tip is to always make sure you have a licensed reputable Electrician do the work... and the higher amp brakers top down is not the right way you want to spreading the heat and all the high amp breakers in one spot is a fire hazard ...............

You need some cheese with that whine

@BobClarizio

9 күн бұрын

Hahahaha that’s probably why I’m so crabby. I don’t drink 😝

I was taught higher amp to the top and lower amp down below, in equilibrium, to maintain balanced load at the service. Don't know how correct that is. Always label the hots. Helps out users and future service techs

@BobClarizio

14 күн бұрын

I was taught the same thing

Looks stupid.

Master electrician 25years

@BobClarizio

15 күн бұрын

Good for you!

Tiny house. How many breakers go you Ned. All your talk. Trim the insulation, on wires come in. Looks like crap. Boo hood. You tag your wires on commercial . I started this marking res. Services. 1991

They make medicine for OCD

@BobClarizio

14 күн бұрын

Hahaha yes, yes they do

half ass never works.

Lose the NM sheath labels. Looks joe handyman homeowner.

What drives me crazy is no one ever doing their work to code you included. I go above and beyond to make everything to code. I see violations with you trimming out your electrical panel.

@BobClarizio

15 күн бұрын

Keep in mind the code that I have to follow is the RVIA code I’m building a tiny house so it has to follow different codes

Well, the first step towards admission, is to stop crying and complaining about having to do a little extra work. Lol. If it was supposed to be easy? Then plumbers would be doing it.

And your breaker order is stupid.

@BobClarizio

15 күн бұрын

I appreciate your insight

Sounds like you just whining because no matter which way it gets done it's still passes code correct

@BobClarizio

14 күн бұрын

Such a little baby that guy is

Drink some prune juice sister

You must be new

Thus not prefect world 🌎 stop crying sir

🤦🏽

@BobClarizio

14 күн бұрын

I know so frustrating

Get a life

@BobClarizio

15 күн бұрын

Where should I go to find one

You sound like an ADD whiner..🥺

First off you can put any breaker in size anywhere, 2nd you should be doing your grounds first and those breakers should be arc fault or df so you already suck, and last new construction is supposed to have a meter main and neutrals and grounds are to be separated so you really suck

Who cares

Lame

Nobody cares what you think

It annoys me when you don’t staple your wires going into the panel