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Northern Fist of Mizong Luohan - Kung Fu of Hong Kong ep3
Damien @KungFit and I continue our journey through the martial arts of Hong Kong by exploring the northern styles of Mizong Luohan Quan and Seven Star Mantis. I also try to find the Wing Chun teacher, Kwok Wan Ping I trained with years ago.
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Sifu Lau and the Mizong Luohan are always so gracious and welcoming and willing to share their treasures. 🙏 Looking forward to the next one with the Hakka styles!! 👍👍👍
@MonkeyStealsPeach
9 ай бұрын
And thank you for sharing your Mantis with us too
I adore the Mizong Luohan style. I’ve been wanting to learn it for years but haven’t quite had the opportunity to train it yet. The culture of the art is probably one of my favorite aspects of the style.
@EternalArtsTex
9 ай бұрын
I will be releasing an app soon that will have MJLH courses, forms, fighting techniques, foot work etc!
Always love to see Seven Star Mantis across the water. It’s like being able to see a whole language of movement you recognize from the other side of the world.
@MonkeyStealsPeach
9 ай бұрын
Yea. I like to see the different branches on my travels. Always get some new insights
@strettoasino9006
2 ай бұрын
My feelings same
Ill never forget my trip there in 2016 and visits to the various wing chun schools. Great to see the northern styles being represented..theres also the bagua,,xingyi and taiji people too. Such a melting pot. Great work again👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
@MonkeyStealsPeach
9 ай бұрын
Yea so much variety in such a small place
I love this style and wish there were more opportunities to learn it in nyc
Awesome series so far.
Love that MJLH is being showcased, however, I would love for your channel to come to Dallas, TX and speak with Grandmaster Johnny Lee to give more in depth history and demonstration to our style.
There is another MJLH club back over on the Kowloon side under Master Benny Yu. It used to be at the Jing Wu School on Nathan Road, i believe in the Mong Kok area. Their MJLH has more of the flassical movements that were taught by the great grandmaster Yip Yu Ting. The movements by this Shifu Lau, lacked any appropriate horse stances and his strikes were nothing more than a combo of strikes here , turn around a combo of strikes there......hardliy like the classical long fist structure of a northern fist....especially, MJLH. However, perhaps it is due to his older age now. Two of his students performed a MJLH routine called "Siu Wor Yuen" and the other performed "Jeet Kuen" which is a required routine of the Jing Wu Academy before learning a specialized style. On the other hand, thank you for sharing your videos related to Hong Kong martial arts as well as the videos of Hong Kong itself.
@VexedCoffee
9 ай бұрын
I train under Grandmaster Johnny Lee's lineage and had similar thoughts :x
@EternalArtsTex
9 ай бұрын
Hey Man! If you havent found my youtube Grandmaster Lee is my Sifu!
@MyJhongLawHorn
9 ай бұрын
@@EternalArtsTexRon is a student of Master Raymond Wong.
@MyJhongLawHorn
9 ай бұрын
@@EternalArtsTex@Angelicaninsights is my student.
@EternalArtsTex
9 ай бұрын
@@MyJhongLawHorn excellent!!!
Tu meke! another great episode. What an amazing virtual encyclopaedia you have created for enthusiasts of Martial arts ,language and culture. The Mark Houghton interview was a great start to the series which made for the perfect introduction to Hong Kong. New Zealand has a large Hakka community so I am looking forward to you sharing some information on the migration, contribution and the influence of Hakka Kuen. I was very fascinated by the cursed sword , that’s a real Shaw Brothers movie in the making.
@MonkeyStealsPeach
9 ай бұрын
The curse of the Luohan sword haja
@KungFit
9 ай бұрын
That's interesting, I didn't realise there was a big Hakka community in NZ. Is there much Hakka kung fu there?
I've always wanted to know mor about this style! Their sparring looked very interesting, they seem to have a lot of sticking and trapping in close range like Southern Styles. Looking forward to the Hakka content!
Interesting how the two-man drills, especially the last back fist groin kick combo, look so similar to Northern Mantis. Perhaps they were somehow influenced by the Seven Star Mantis of Luo Guangyu, who also taught at the Chingwu association in Shanghai and later moved to HK.
@MonkeyStealsPeach
9 ай бұрын
Could be. Master Lau’s father also learnt from Luo Guang Yu
@EternalArtsTex
9 ай бұрын
Great grandmaster Yeh became friends with a Mantis practitioner and traded. I learned Bung Bo as an extra from in the MZLH system here in USA. I love mantis. Master Yeh said it was important to look outside of our style sometimes to found the good in others and have our high level people incorporate the good! Now I believe although the tech is similar its not from mantis but no confirmation.
Welcome to Hong Kong, Will!! Can't wait to do your piece on tanglang.
The first form is Gong li quan! great one! and awesome video!
An excellent demonstration of Northern styles here. As was mentioned, I recognized some Northern techniques here, whether it was in the Seven Star Praying Mantis or Mizong Luohan Quan. Speaking of which, I was happy to see the young person in the Mizong class who was using the weapons and giving explanations. One can see in a lot of these videos that it's mainly an older generation who is practicing Kung Fu, which is disheartening in a way. These arts are being continued. However, it's through foreigners, not young Chinese. So seeing someone young practicing and showing interest in Kung Fu, that makes me glad. Looking forward to the Hakka styles next!
@KungFit
9 ай бұрын
One of the thins we talked about with Mark Houghton was that Lau Kar Leung believed it would be westerners that preserved kung fu, because not enough Chinese people were learning it to a deep level. That was over 20 years ago!
@EternalArtsTex
9 ай бұрын
@@KungFit That saddens me. We love MZLH here in America and its growing rapidly here in the states and America and across the world. I am jealous I have never gotten to visit the HK school and see the old history from the Great Grandmaster Yeh. MZLH although prominent in weapons has some amazing long fist open hand forms with beautiful skips. I hope the value is rediscover there soon for some of the younger generation! We must keep the tradition alive!
Thank you very much for sharing this!!
What a great school! Personable members, strong performances and a strong identity. So nice to see
what great video again thank you so much for everything you do!.
Thanks for your video! I had the fortune to live and study in Hong Kong from 2013-2019. I miss it. Keep up the good work!
Awesome, thanks Will and Damien for another great episode
@KungFit
9 ай бұрын
You're welcome!
I started Wing Chun as a 15-year-old in 1968 and trained in it for 15 years under Sifu Joseph Cheng in the UK, One thing that has always interested me when watching Ip Man stylists is apparently tiny but in reality a massive difference in the punching. Sifu Cheng included an upward twist of the fist at the very last moment, contacting the target with the last three knuckles with a verticle fist as in all Wing Chun but the upward twist at the end adds I believe an incredibly deceptive amount of extra power! Have you come across this in your training anywhere? (By the way, I still train in martial arts as a 70yr old )
@MonkeyStealsPeach
9 ай бұрын
Well I have also trained Wing Chun, so I learnt that method before too
Really enjoyed that, many thanks for sharing 👍
Great episode! The sabre from 14:50 is not very well known, but it exists in some other northern styles e.g. at least in the Beijing lineage of chuojiao it's called shuang shou dai / (双手带).
Huo Yuanjia's style? Master Zhou Baofu of Hong Kong practices this style.
@mulli032
9 ай бұрын
No, different Mizong from Huo. This is Mizong Luohan from the Yip family. The "Mizong" probably actually refers to "Tang quan," another northern style that combined with the "Luohan" bits to make a mixed style.
@mulli032
9 ай бұрын
The taolu we call “Tang Quan” starts at like 13:10
@joaovermelho0084
9 ай бұрын
@@mulli032 My friend, thank you very much for the information. I had this doubt, but you helped me to solve this doubt for me.
@joaovermelho0084
9 ай бұрын
@@mulli032 I've always had a desire to know more about the style of the legendary Huo Yuanjia, but unfortunately, there is little information about this mysterious style from North China here on KZread.
Practiced MyZong (Mi Zhong) Luohan Quan with my teacher Marty Augusta in the 80s…the footwork and able to shorten OR lengthen the distance between me and my opponent as well as the broader wider stance has benefitted me since then… Unfortunately I only learned a year but the basics have set great foundation for the rest of my martial arts journey… Thanks for a great video and to see this esoteric style (these days) and was supposedly to be passed down from Huo Yuen Ja… A lot of nostalgia….making it very heart warming….
Just found the channel. Very interesting & well done.
@MonkeyStealsPeach
3 ай бұрын
Welcome aboard!
What a great series and nice to see the history of these arts still available. i use to practice the shaolin hung fut pai system under grandmaster tai yim (usa) hong kong would have many schools of this system as for mainland china not sure 100% but would be very interested if there is any masters in china. 🙏
@MonkeyStealsPeach
9 ай бұрын
Maybe in Foshan, but yea probably mainly in HK
master kwok looks like he's built like arnold in that old video!
Nice piece on MiZhong. I see the students did the form Gung Lic Kuen, which one of the 10 Base Forms they taught in Jing Wu. They taught these Base sets to give you a solid Foundation, then they would evaluate you and based on what you were Good at or Needed, they would then pick a system for you.
17:09 I love this guy! 👍💪
Awesome , good to see a lot of demo in this episode . 👍cursed sword story is interesting too 🙂
You guys need to track down Lu Jun Hai (mizong fist grand master in Essex England)
Nice episode, thank you
Great stuff! Many thanks :)
Gongli Quan must be something very common in HK
It's fascinating how martial arts evolve, like they're a living being. Mizong I, as we call it, was adopted into the Fu Jow Pai system from my Si-Jo Wong Moon Toy who learned it in Guanzhou Provence in the early 20th century. We only practice 3 or 4 forms from this system (no weapons) and I can easily recognize many of the techniques, however the patterns of the forms have changed, as they have been filtered down through time and distance, to the way they are being taught here in present day New York City.
If you catch up with master Kwok don’t forget to ask him about his old training partner in Sydney Colin Chau /Chau chi quam
@EternalArtsTex
9 ай бұрын
Now that would be a sight! Would love for them to see the MZLH here in the USA/CA.
shame you couldnt track down kwok wan ping, would love to see more yuen kay san wing chun
@MonkeyStealsPeach
9 ай бұрын
I know, would have been great
Last time t I was in Kowloon Park, it was with Jon Nicklin, where we did some push hands and rou shou. Good times and it was a shame that I had to leave HK soon after.
The Fist of Fury!
Nice to see some 7 star praying mantis from Luo Guanyu's lineage. Is this mizong related to Huo Yuanjia's? Looking forward to the Hakka styles video
Seeing the cursed double jian just in a bucket next to all the other training jian was a little weird 😂
@KungFit
9 ай бұрын
Haha, just don't pick up the wrong one! First lesson for all new students
Nice park!
One used to be able to see Falungong practitioners and their banners in the streets. That's disappeared. Certain books in libraries and bookstores have also disappeared. Banners touting the re-unification and anniversaries of this and that have become omnipresent.
@MonkeyStealsPeach
9 ай бұрын
Yea I noticed those things
ALL YOUR VIDEOS ARE WONDERFUL BUT I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY I HAVEN'T SEEN ONE OF YOUR VIDEOS MENTIONING THE ''YING JAW PAI KUNG FU'' MARTIAL ART OR ''NORTHERN EAGLE CLAW KUNG FU''?? THANK YOU IN ADVANCE, AND I HOPE YOU FIND THE TIME TO ANSWER MY QUESTION.
@MonkeyStealsPeach
9 ай бұрын
There’s a lot of styles I haven’t had chance to cover yet
@martial-arts-virtue
9 ай бұрын
FIRST OF ALL THANK YOU FOR YOUR IMMEDIATE RESPONSE. WHAT I WANTED TO SAY IS THAT JUST LIKE HUNG GAR, SO ''YING JOW PAI FAAN TZI MOOΝ'' OR ''NORTHERN EAGLE CLAW KUNG GU'' IS ONE OF THE MOST FAMOUS STYLES, SO I THINK THERE SHOULD BE A VIDEO ONLY FOR THIS STYLE.@@MonkeyStealsPeach
@stevetartalia7116
4 ай бұрын
@@MonkeyStealsPeach hey bro im a long time ying jow practitioner who was in the small gang of westerners 'the gwailo ga ban' is what we caĺled ourselves living in hongkong doing filmwork YingJow skillsets prepped me well for rigers of H.K. filmwork...i knew Markhoughton very well and fought alongside him a few times... & with him too lol Not sure if hes still teaching but Ying Jow sifu Ng kwan Po son may still be representing there (upatairs the from famous 'Chu chi Lings' tit da shop ...was lineal sigung up till he passed the torch to Shum Leung nyc where i trained... 50years teaching + dozens of schools opened over last 40 years big party in ny april 6 celebrating him and teaching manymany thousands!... ps: im loving all your content bro keep it up!!!
Next vlog pls Hung Fut Kung Fu😊
Unless the teacher tried to hide the essence, from what was shown in this video, this school of Mizong Luohan lost all the principles of movements and force generation. There was only bad shapes of outward movements.
In the U.S. Alex Kwok Wong Sifu, taught Mi Chung Lou Han(My Jong Law Horn) the same time as Kam Yuen Sifu, did 😬his specialty was a Dan Dao set called Snowflake ❄️
@ronquan5382
2 күн бұрын
Yes, Sifu Alex Kwok was a very talented performer and sparring competitor. He won many first place awards in west coast US karate tournaments back in the 80's. There were no kung fu tournaments back at that time. His lineage is from Grandmaster Lau, the father of this instructor in this video. There is a great You Tube video of Sifu Alex Kwok visiting the Kowloon Jing Mo and visiting with GM Marr. In that video, you can see how fast Alex Kwok was with sparring moves.
I noticed the students from D. Lau Kung Fu Academy use belts, something I thought it didn't happen in China as general, but was adopted here in the west (and Brazil specifically) because of the influence of japanese martial arts
@ppdrro
9 ай бұрын
I loved the story about the cursed sword, btw
@KungFit
9 ай бұрын
I don't think they were using them to distinguish rank. Not everyone wore one, and those that did were only black, presumably to match their trousers. I think it was more about keeping their trousers up 😅
الأساليب الجنوبية ☯
Dragon Style very fast, cross moves, eye shots...
Is this a fighting style of Pai Chan from Virtua Fighter?
郭运平师傅
Ah, the same old legend about practicing for 8 hours every day. Who of the group of students in the video has that much free time ? Teacher as well. Someone has to feed you all your life for that regimen to become possible. In real world many great masters were villagers, they had to work from dawn to dusk, could not possibly put so much time aside for Gongfu practice, yet still achieved high level. Must seek better methods of training, not longer hours.
@KungFit
9 ай бұрын
Certainly people don't have that time these days. At various points in the past people have had a lot more free time than we would expect, but yes 8 hours of physical training is a bit much. The body couldn't even take it. You can get a lot of benefit from thinking about your martial art or through visualisation too. So you can train without actually physically training if you are doing a task that doesn't require too much thought. I talked about this a bit more in a video I did on training whilst ill.
@KungFit
4 ай бұрын
@nicholasgreen339 It depends on how you define training/ what your training consists of. Certainly there are some things that you can do for 8 hours a day, and as you train you can tolerate higher volumes of hard training. That being said, training which is truly physically demanding (this will vary on the individual) can not be undertaken for 8 hours a day every day. From a physiological perspective, your body has a maximum amount of stimulus it can recover from and the ceiling of this does not increase linearly with training experience, it eventually plateaus.
Tai-Chi form are internal and external therapy.
shaolin without the modern wushu influences.
@mikehunt9884
4 ай бұрын
@nicholasgreen339 lol
Wing Chun
Tao zai wang ta dong schou lao hsien tao kyang zou di zhung goa tao zai tao zai wang she zai si tao zai si tao si
@gerhardmayer6289
9 ай бұрын
Ah nan mo fo ih ah nan mo fo ih ah nan mo fo ih nan man si te
@gerhardmayer6289
9 ай бұрын
Very good kung fu school we ought see herein thankx for this vid uploaded on internet
@gerhardmayer6289
9 ай бұрын
Han jing ming
🐎 🗡️ 2 😎☯️
Maaaan, long hair dude messed up his form while doing a demonstration for a guest, representing the school, in front of his sifu . Sifu is gonna have that dude do horse stance in the corner for 4 hours while he beats him with a bamboo stick. every time he comes up from his stance from pain before the time is up, wack ! Lol 😂
@MonkeyStealsPeach
9 ай бұрын
Haha. They are a chill group, sure he will be fine
@Gieszkanne
9 ай бұрын
This form is clearly quite new to him . Looked like he is still learning it.
At the risk of starting controversy, would it be fair to say that the original forms and styles of kung fu (or chuan fa) were better preserved under the greater freedom of Hong Kong during British colonialism than in Mainland China where martial arts were discouraged or outright outlawed under Mao's cultural revolution?
@KungFit
9 ай бұрын
Not really. Many of the styles practiced in Hong Kong are very different than those in northern and central China. Of course there is some northern kung fu, such as Mizong Luohan there. The idea that traditional kung fu died or was somehow watered down in mainland China is pretty exaggerated. It's a big place with huge amount of people living rurally. The martial traditions were upheld by many, even if technically they weren't allowed or encouraged. Taking Shaolin as an example, it being what I am most familiar with, after the temple was mostly abandoned you still had secular practitioners, and former monks practicing and teaching in the villages around Songshan. Many who learnt before the cultural revolution were still alive to teach after the revival of interest in kung fu in the 80s.