Of the 250 broadcasters sold only 500 have ever been found…

@JEUXolim

2 жыл бұрын

Lol

@jimcrossland3575

Жыл бұрын

Wow someone has found 250 more than was produced. Just shows be careful what you buy lol

@stuartkennedy4570

Жыл бұрын

100 out of 70 people are bad at math

@luvsilly60

Жыл бұрын

Like Navy SEALS.

@maryseling5801

Жыл бұрын

Ok, that was clever.

I love how both techs vacillate between suspect and non-committal while Norm is eternally hopeful

@faheykj

2 жыл бұрын

So true. Norm was just in the way, probably panicking because he paid top dollar for some kind of partscaster that can't even be verified as a genuine Fender, let alone a Broadcaster. Reminds me of Mike Campbell's "Broadcaster". The only thing on that guitar that may be a Broadcaster is the body and its been refinished. Bridge pickup has staggered poles, decal is in the wrong place, string tree is wrong style and in the wrong place, just an aftermarket neck someone slapped a fake decal on. Everything is wrong about that guitar

@nicko6710

2 жыл бұрын

@@faheykj But if Mike Campbell played it it would sound amazing. The Gilmour partscaster went for big money.

@faheykj

2 жыл бұрын

@@nicko6710 very true, campbell is great player with great tone.

@glennevans5824

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah Norms 💵💵💵💵…come on joe bonamassa…I got something for you..yeah techs ..are thinking hybrid…

@richsackett3423

2 жыл бұрын

@@glennevans5824 Not a hybrid at all. This is an early 60s fake.

Norm seems intent on making it more valuable than in probably is

@jimmyparris9892

2 жыл бұрын

Everyone makes these old guitars out to be worth more than they really are. The prices have gotten ridiculous because people with more money than sense are are paying those prices in hopes that some famous rock star and an unknown groupie jizzed on it back in the 60's and 70's

@richsackett3423

2 жыл бұрын

Of course, Captain Obvious. His business is selling used guitars.

@Ironworthstriking

2 жыл бұрын

@@richsackett3423 I've been around a lot of people in the guitar selling business who are honest and don't try to make everything into a holy grail.

@richsackett3423

2 жыл бұрын

@@Ironworthstriking Without a doubt. Me too. I've been some really cool stuff from guys like that. The hype is part of the vintage instrument game and it's easy to see how you might get caught up in it, making some objectively questionable decisions.

@joebryant8500

2 жыл бұрын

You're new to Norm, right? See also those who forever mythologise 59 bursts. The guitar that's valuable only because it's so rare, and so rare only because when it first came out it was a huge flop that Gibson couldn't give away and ended up dropping from the catalogue. Yours today for the price of a house.

Broadcasters are the 427 Corvette of guitars, more exist now than when they were actually manufactured.

@ritchtaylor3831

2 жыл бұрын

LOL

@denboe2894

2 жыл бұрын

Many guitar trolls out there for a long time now.

@richsackett3423

2 жыл бұрын

@@denboe2894 What does that mean? I don’t know what a “guitar troll” is? A furry critter who wildly overpays for fake vintage guitars?

@dre4011

2 жыл бұрын

Yes...yes indeed

@BarronVonSchnoot

2 жыл бұрын

@@richsackett3423 guitar trolls are people who buy a vintage fender, then build and sell three different guitars by parting out the neck, body, and neck-plate. The trolls destroyed the market and now that collectors are hurting for money, a lot of people are starting to learn they bought fakes. Lots of people won’t admit that they’re just parts guitars.

Seems like an early "Partscaster"

@luvsilly60

Жыл бұрын

Your post seems like the most accurate in the whole post.

@geraldponce8336

9 ай бұрын

Lol

This is the type of content I love. The hunt for rare guitars never stops

It looks like the experts are skeptical but Norm keeps trying to talk them into it.

@jimreading7593

2 жыл бұрын

I've seen ones that.

@Drawfornoone

2 жыл бұрын

And relic popularity makes him want to strip and buff the finish wtf

This is the second of these videos I've watched. Both times Norm is in the way and talking the guitar up beyond what the techs are saying.

There was no 54th week in 1963!

@blindtoby8967

2 жыл бұрын

When was that mentioned ? Date stamp to save me the time to find it ?

@sbennett2112

2 жыл бұрын

@@blindtoby8967 9:25

@OdinHammersmith

2 жыл бұрын

54th week of 1963 was the leap week.

@chuckschillingvideos

2 жыл бұрын

@@OdinHammersmith No such thing as a "leap week" - and any way you slice it, 1963 had 52 weeks. cdn.generalblue.com/calendar/1963-calendar-portrait-1020x1320.png

@davemabee5798

2 жыл бұрын

@@chuckschillingvideos Every year has 52 weeks.

Come in guys, its got slotted head screws! Has to be a rare, vintage Nocaster. Sheesh.

These forensic episodes could be awesome for you

@generaljj577

2 жыл бұрын

Very Exciting!

Without any identifiable marks makes it hard to prove anything.

2.37 - 2.40 20 to 25 years...a really long time ? To me that's like yesterday. No wonder I don't fit in anymore.

@jimmyparris9892

2 жыл бұрын

Don't feel like the Lone Ranger. (For you young-uns out there, the Lone Ranger was a television cowboy who had an indian (native-American) friend named Tonto, and they stopped the bad guys together. In the old days it was okay to imprison and even execute bad people who desperately needed it, in order to make the actual law-abiding citizens safe).

@wesleyalan9179

2 жыл бұрын

@@jimmyparris9892 😉👍Thanks Boomer!🤣😂

@bldallas

2 жыл бұрын

Funny. I have a 1993 Fender American ‘52 Reissue Tele that I bought new. It’s been in the case, most of its life. 28 years makes it “vintage,”right?

@glennhecker4422

2 жыл бұрын

Yep... I know that feeling all too well!

@michaelworse6034

2 жыл бұрын

Well said , Sir . But tomorrow will be a long time !

A toaster with strings given mystical power and value by the talented people who have used them.

I"m in Australia and owned the guitar in the video and sold it here in the mid 2000s. It was in my possession for around 15 years and had been in Australia longer than that. It was without doubt the best sounding guitar I have ever owned. I never believed it to be a mint condition Broadcaster and accordingly paid a very reasonable price for it. I bought it fully understanding its questionable authenticity. The reason I bought it was because of the way it played and sounded and because it was affordable for me. I was lucky enough to be able to use it at gigs 3 to 4 nights a week during that time and in retrospect wished I had never sold it. Here is a video that was made after I sold it. kzread.info/dash/bejne/in12q9ibcZzJabA.html 🙂

@seanj3667

Жыл бұрын

Previous owner says "questionable authenticity," techs keep saying the doubt it, serial number is WAY out of line, Norm just keeps a used car salesman attitude.

This vintage madness is prettig, euh… mad!

Ignorance was bliss, back in the day! Because it was "an old guitar" I bought my Rickenbacker 330 (from 1964) for $75 from GC Hollywood (before their Walk of Fame days)! Also in the early '80's, I got my 1967 sunburst Telecaster Custom, for $125 (because it was a refinish). Oh for the return of days gone by!

love the knowledge flowing around

Cool stuff Norm! Love the inspection.

Very awesome vid Norm!!! This is the stuff i like to see.

Guitars break... especially when used professionally on a nightly basis. When someone is using the guitar to earn a living, the last thing the owner would be worried about is replacing any worn parts with originals. They would likely have used whatever was available at the local repair shop in order to have it 'up and running' for that night's gig. I had a collection of 50s & 60's guitars that are likely driving... or, have driven... curators totally crazy over the years. Unless, a guitar has sat unused in a closet the past 70 years, it is not likely to have 100% original parts in it. Guitars like that are a really rare find!

@chuckschillingvideos

2 жыл бұрын

All true, but at the end of the day, Washington's hatchet is still just a collection of replacement parts, no?

@freelancevt

2 жыл бұрын

@@chuckschillingvideos A point well made and well taken. All that is really important with a guitar is how well it plays and how it sounds. Doctor's have given me my 'walking papers'. So, I have gathered all the guitars that I had set aside because they had broken in some way and I replaced them in order to be 'back in business' that night. I couldn't believe the number of guitars and parts that I had tucked away in cases and cardboard boxes; because, I needed one to throw over my shoulder to be on stage that next evening. I rarely returned to make the necessary repairs to the damaged guitar. It was easier to just replace it (such was the sad result of having good credit with area music stores). I wish I knew in the 60s what I know about the value of older "all-original" guitars today... the same goes for the value of muscle cars I let go for little or nothing over the years. Grrrrrr.

@justaskmeiknow5584

6 ай бұрын

Speaking of sitting in a closet, my step dad had a Broadcaster that he got from his mother when she passed away. To the best of my knowledge it was all original, the case, small amp and guitar, maybe less the strings. It looked new except for a few light wear marks. She played in country band and use to give lessons with it but mostly stayed in its case for the better part of 4 decades. My step dad sold it for $25,000 back in early 2000's if I remember correctly. He also inherited from his mom's sister an all original 1950 Willy's CJ3A jeep with 28,000ish original miles. I have it today and it runs great!!! It's been some what restored and electrical has been updated to 12V but the engine and running gear is all original even the rear main rope seal that's been leaking forever.

@richardworkman5416

6 ай бұрын

@@justaskmeiknow5584 👍

Very cool. Really enjoyed this.

Wow! Fascinating and informative. I learn so much from videos like this. And great camera work! Thank you!

There’s a guy in Las Vegas called Rick who’ll give you 1200 bucks for it…but he’s really taking a chance

@grandudetonesnob7107

2 жыл бұрын

😆😆😆!!!

@wesleyalan9179

2 жыл бұрын

🤣😂🤣😂

@robharris6874

2 жыл бұрын

Yer, Ricks rip offs !!

@richsackett3423

2 жыл бұрын

I might go two grand on this excellent early 60s fake No Caster.

@jfredknobloch

2 жыл бұрын

I do not want to cast in the aspersions against Norm. He’s a brilliant guy and has seen more than anybody else but every now and then you have to figure out what is really going on.

I enjoy these type of videos the most. Keep them coming.

I love these in deep Forensic video’s 👌

Bonamassa said “don’t pop the neck, you know if it’s the real deal”

From vintage to import remakes teles are just awesome. Comfortable to play and sound amazing

Looks like an old player grade partscaster to me 🤷‍♂️

@duck_5150

2 жыл бұрын

Definitely

@kenmorley2339

2 жыл бұрын

😅😅😅

@wesleyalan9179

2 жыл бұрын

After watching the video, I'm getting that vibe too. It would still be awesome to rock it though😅

@duck_5150

2 жыл бұрын

@@wesleyalan9179 for sure

@Gunslinger320

2 жыл бұрын

@@wesleyalan9179 absolutely 💯

it's one of the rarest until the next video

@filipdemeyst8842

2 жыл бұрын

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

One of the previous owner had certainly put the bridge and the pots from a 62 Telecaster on his Broadcaster...

Very interesting autopsy !

That round mark under the pickguard is a sign it’s original; it’s the mark of the lacquer overspray around the round supports used to hold the pickguards while spraying. I also notice some wood missing in front of the neck pickup adjacent to the neck pocket. Changed volume pot.

@brownmonkeybananayellow

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah I was surprised they didn’t mention the coffee can silhouette. Love these vids though.

@chrisharvey5162

2 жыл бұрын

I have a whole stack of reproduction pick guards that looked just like that

@vayabroder729

2 жыл бұрын

@@chrisharvey5162 You can even make them yourself. Nowadays forgeries are better than ever; used to be that Fenders were the easiest to fake; now it’s across the board.

@brownmonkeybananayellow

2 жыл бұрын

@@chrisharvey5162 where can I get one in bakelite (not being sarcastic)?

When they made SO MANY GUITARS, who can really tell what is what. Norm certainly knows his stuff!! Nice guitar, BTW!!!

Easily identified as not an untouched original. However, I thought Mr Fender's vision was to mass-produce a guitar with consistent specs, thus enabling easy parts replacement. This could be seen as a great embodiment of his vision. To me, "partscaster" is a tribute, not a derogatory term.

@larryn2682

2 жыл бұрын

Except the prices for complete instruments varies so greatly.

In the 1980's Stewart McDonald made some quality ash bodies with no channel route and had a more radiused edge. I own one.

Lol that bench needs a magnifier light!

Isn't ever Norm guitar the rarest guitar known to mankind?

@johnbuell8035

2 жыл бұрын

Yes. Just like every well known guitar player is ‘my buddy’.

Hey i have this chunk of wood in my backyard, i think it might be a early 50's no caster 🤷‍♂️🤔

@wesleyalan9179

2 жыл бұрын

Hahaha

@richsackett3423

2 жыл бұрын

This one started feeling wrong right away. It’s a skillful fake done a very long time ago.

You see these kinds of restorations from a time when the guitar may have been considered cool for its vintageness but had yet to reach the status of a priceless artifact.

If you think every vintage guitar you see is legit…you’re probably wrong…and most have replacement parts that make it worthless ( or not of any value except what someone will pay for it) - it’s happened to me…can happen to anyone when you want to believe so bad you have a piece of history ( when you really have a old guitar with valueless replacement parts ) …as Kurt V. said “so it goes”

@jimmyparris9892

2 жыл бұрын

I like old player grade guitars. I don't mind if some of the parts have been changed as long as those "useless" parts improve the instrument (or actually make it playable in some cases). Otherwise it's just an overpriced wall ornament.

@palidiciovermingagurainia1760

2 жыл бұрын

As l get older my guitars are becoming relics and vintage type- honestly- l prefer new instruments! I just bought three after having one acoustic and one electric for three years- both are worn out - and wished l did it sooner

@palidiciovermingagurainia1760

2 жыл бұрын

As for Kurt V. - nothing beats the “breakfast of champions” !

A friend of mine here in cairns australia has a broad caster nocaster original with a rosewood fretboard,(rare bird)

My 52 Tele looks a lot like this one. I purchased it from Ed King almost 20 years ago, he had bought it from Gruhn Guitars. It isn't 100% original, it does have repop tuners, and one of the pickups was rewound. And the body has a not-great refin. Most good vintage Fenders have some replacement parts, and they are all "parts casters" in my opinion, that's literally how they were made. The ones that look like museum pieces often don't sound as good as the ones that were played and played. The best sounding ones tended to get played and beat up over time.

This guitar has been around for a long time! Maybe the bridge. Notice the hole drilled in the back of the bridge where the saddle screws are.Ive seen it in Vintage Guitar Magazine and other publications.At 8:40 you can see it

Is it just me, or does the body look much thinner than on the usual telecasters?

@shtdaprdtr

2 жыл бұрын

IF..keyword IF, it was a real broadcaster..it would be thinner than a standard tele with early ones made of pine...but everything that was seen here (flathead screws, the refinish etc..) that can all be reproduced!

Fascinating detective work! If only Fender said made on this date and it’s this guitar😜 would make your lives so much easier!

@jimmyparris9892

2 жыл бұрын

Well, I think Leo Fender was trying to earn a living and thought he was making musical instruments, not overpriced relics to hang on some collectors wall.

@chuckschillingvideos

2 жыл бұрын

Actually, Fender did just that - but someone in this case removed that from the neck and neck pocket. We can only guess at the reasons.

@charlesbolton8471

2 жыл бұрын

@@chuckschillingvideos On the end of the neck and in the neck pocket both no less.

Fascinating.

I love your energy and passionate interest in these guitars Norm...you have become a hero of mine getting to know you in these with your excellent team...nice to be able to see this kind of museum of qualified folks...I like the sticker on the wall The system is fucked...that says alot, but you guys are very far from that!...impressive

Don't get me wrong - I love this stuff. Guitar forensics. But to me this is a total parts guitar. I am suspect, that any of the parts on this guitar are from 1950-51. The body, even though it does not have the additional cavity seems a little too rounded at the edges and hacked up. Nothing on neck or in pickup cavities. Plus the refin? Hmmm. I think Norm might have a case of wishful thinking.

I love this. Broadcaster? Partscaster? Don't matter. It's two slabs of wood & electronics with enough hardware to hold six strings in tune made as cheap as Leo could. It's like a disposable lighter. And we act like it's The Book of Kells. Lololol. 😁

@jomamma1750

2 жыл бұрын

Except an original is worth 50k+ and that ain't bic lighter turf, kid. Not in the least.

@dank8865

2 жыл бұрын

@@jomamma1750 Lololol. Just because I don't genuflect at the alter of Dentist Grade Guitars doesn't mean I'm a "kid." Broadcaster's got maybe 10 years on me. Except for the pots on this example. I'm older than the pots. Which, while we're on the subject puts a big dent in your $50K+ price tag. Along with wiring harness. And the finish that has to be stripped and redone by a 1st class restorer. *And*, if the condition of that bridge is any indication, the chances are better than good that the magnets and windings in those pickups are so degraded they couldn't put together enough Henrys to sound like ass. So I have a feeling that this really is a Dentist Grade Guitar. $30 - 35K and all you can do with it is hang it on a wall. Unless you redo the pickups. In which case, what's the point? You just spent *all* that $$$ on some old wood and hardware & 1962 pots and brand new pups. Brilliant. Old guitars aren't valuable because they are old. But because they have a sound, like a sonic patina. And lots of old guitars sound like shit. But I'm just some dumb kid, so what do I know, really? 🤣🤩🤔👍

@jomamma1750

2 жыл бұрын

@@dank8865 I'm 100% right, you are a kid! Mentally at any rate. I'm over here talking about an actual original broadcaster being worth 50+, and they are, all day long. Even beat to death. This is a partscaster not an original. Duhhh......

@richsackett3423

2 жыл бұрын

@@dank8865 How could anyone mistake your Old Man Yells At Cloud vintage guitar rant for a kid’s remarks? That’s a lot of typing about a fake guitar on the internet which no kid has the patience for.

@dank8865

2 жыл бұрын

@@richsackett3423 Thank you. Old Man Yelling At Clouds has been my stock in trade since I was 15 yo. I like to flatter myself that I have raised it to an art form. Thanks for recognizing my schtick for what it is - bluster & bullshit to help pass the time. Now get off my lawn. Lololol. 🤣

OK, so you have a rare guitar with NATURAL WEAR (relicing). But you then have it refinished, and then have someone do a relic job on it? Any one else find this fucking crazy?

@johnsmith-bk4ps

2 жыл бұрын

I have refins with wear

@richsackett3423

2 жыл бұрын

You see them all the time. Some folks obviously have a taste for then.

Its exciting to think when the pots were replaced and when it was refinished. They knew what they were doing it seems

Bonamassa will buy it !

@jefflitchfield4950

2 жыл бұрын

Unless John 5 gets there first

Thank you Norm. I love your all guitar network. I just love guitars in general, and vintage guitars.

That is a round string tree, early Fenders had that, positioned higher on the peghead than later models. 'Masi' has great careful hands, very nice touch.

I always hope an old guitar turns out to be “less-collectible” just so people keep playing it rather than it ending up on display behind glass and never getting played again.

@greg7656

2 жыл бұрын

What possible difference could that make? You act like you dont want to hurt the guitar's feelings. Collectible guitars should be preserved for the future. There are countless playable guitars that can be played

@andrewkoastephens210

2 жыл бұрын

@@greg7656 There is some amount of truth to your opinion about my statement. I suppose I do believe an inanimate thing can become almost alive. By learning its quirks and playing it to the point that it becoming a conduit for emotion it shares some qualities to a sacred object. It’s a very old way of looking at things. Maybe you’ve never had an emotional connection with an instrument, maybe you named your guitar and talk to it at the breakfast table. I have no idea. I make no assumption. Keep in mind, I’m not trying to convince you of anything, I’m merely providing a different perspective than the super common collector’s practice. I also believe an instrument is tool made to be used. If every old guitar is preserved for the future by means of it never being used again, then they are by definition useless. Just a stuffed tiger at a museum. That just seems like a waste to me. Some people see the countless guitar collections as a respectful tribute to the past. Many musicians, including myself, see it as ending the future use of whatever instrument was collected and disrespect to the mojo that has gone into it. Again, I’m not trying to convince you of anything. It’s one of those things where either you get it or you can’t grasp it.

@andrewkoastephens210

2 жыл бұрын

@@greg7656 There is some amount of truth to your opinion about my statement. I suppose I do believe an inanimate thing can become almost alive. By learning its quirks and playing it to the point that it becoming a conduit for emotion it shares some qualities to a sacred object. It’s a very old way of looking at things. Maybe you’ve never had an emotional connection with an instrument, maybe you named your guitar and talk to it at the breakfast table. I have no idea. I make no assumption. Keep in mind, I’m not trying to convince you of anything, I’m merely providing a different perspective than the super common collector’s practice. I also believe an instrument is tool made to be used. If every old guitar is preserved for the future by means of it never being used again, then they are by definition useless. Just a stuffed tiger at a museum. That just seems like a waste to me. Some people see the countless guitar collections as a respectful tribute to the past. Many musicians, including myself, see it as ending the future use of whatever instrument was collected and disrespect to the mojo that has gone into it. Again, I’m not trying to convince you of anything. It’s one of those things where either you get it or you can’t grasp it.

Techs are like this is a shady partscaster or fake and norm is like this is an amazingly rare broadcaster haha

I love these type of videos

I think a magnifying glass would be a good tool to have on hand.

When Norm mentioned brass screws, I remembered the fake fender guitars made in the philippines, that I would come across at pawnshops in the 1970's. The pickguard screws on those guitars were slotted and looked like brass.

A Squier bought a month ago, left out in the rain, and put in the freezer for a week

The rear face of the pickguard was likely scuffed up to get rid of static that builds up whilst playing between the pickguard and the shine from the body. It presents itself as pops and crackles through the amp. I experienced this phenomenon once after my own 50s partscaster tele build. I searched online for a fix and scuffing up rear of pickguard was said to sort out and low and behold it worked

Leo Fender is up there with Whitworth and Ford when it comes to revolutionising production.

The thing with Fender’s is it’s easy to make a partscaster….A lot easier to identify a vintage Gibson.

@yeetmageet4311

2 жыл бұрын

We don't like Gibsons. Period. Go away.

I’d go buy a reissue and be sure it is what it says it is rather than pay 💰 for a possible ? Just my opinion. Just proves that Pros get their fingers burnt Good on Norm to show this though

@larryn2682

2 жыл бұрын

*their fingers

@johnsmith-sm6mh

2 жыл бұрын

@@larryn2682 😂😂 English Teacher, correction made , thanks 🙏

Come on guys this is a Partscaster..someone did a restoration on this one with a bit knowledge but not enough..he find him a bridge finally with a low serial..offcourse he could’t find a lower serial it’s to rare. Great guitar however

@thomasz4981

2 жыл бұрын

Got to agree, you can put 50's parts that were laying around on a 60's guitar but how would he use 60's parts on a 50's guitar?

@Retro.Studio

2 жыл бұрын

@@thomasz4981 you can put it on visa versa why not? Actually the owner can buy all parts seperatly on Ebay or else and put it together and have him a nice guitar. In my opinion some one part it out for instance incase he had a total refin and realise he has money dropt this one...oh no let’s part it out and make some money, so the new owner has to find him crazyness of searching to get close to original. We see this over and over. Try to find a bridge with matching serial of a broadcaster period is almost impossible. So he grab his chance on a early Tele one..so no hard deal on playability..also on the pots etc. I love to see the pu’s in close up

@thomasz4981

2 жыл бұрын

@@Retro.Studio I realize that, I was refering to originality. When I went back to rewatch @ 9:25 he said pots date 54th week of 1963 which doesn't make sense.

The jumbled pile of neck plates has to be Leo's Revenge on all of us Fenderites 😉

Exactly right about number plate pulled from a bin just like pots and switches. My 69 strat has 32nd 34th week pots and 47th week pickups, 22 396 109B neck. The Gilmore strat has a 299XXX mine is a 262XXX and I know I have oct parts, so if serial numbers fell in order - the Gilmore strat would be 37,000 number difference within a two month period. The way it appears the Gilmore guitar could have been before mine or even the same day, if plates were pulled from a bin. Gilmores had so many upgrades it probably couldn't get down to a month.

nobody sees anything, just 3 guys talking and some shaky shots of the guitar. Great Norman's video.

Serial numbers on the early Fender guitars are all over the place. There is no numerical order. They stamped these bridges, a bunch of them at the same time, and used them first come, first serve, no strict serialization. The highest number recorded on a Broadcaster is #2955, owned by Mike Campbell from Tom Petty's band. For a Nocaster #2790 is recorded. For instance the lowest number found on a Telecaster is #0067 which shows a huge difference. If you want to know more about blackguard Fender serialnumers go to: blackguardlogs.com/

@Johngonefishin

2 жыл бұрын

Campbells guitar is a partscaster, look at it closely, all kinds of changes on that guitar, no way #2955 is original.

Maybe the plug was for a string tree? So how did the neck pick up get connection hole from the bridge? Was it a layered construction? Very little information on the tuning pegs which I thought would be crucial to determining the history of this guitar.

@davekeating.

2 жыл бұрын

After routing gap for truss rod access they drilled hole between neck and bridge pockets...

Very interesting Norm-aroo

Well that's 13 minutes I'll never get back....

Very Kool!

The body looks a little thin to me

My observations. The body looks a bit thinner than the 1,75 inch standard size, but every early 1950 Fenders do exist with a 1,69 inch body. What I do miss in this video is that they did not pull the neck pickup so that we can see the drill hole through to the bridge pickup cavity from there. The cavity for the truss rod access looks rather odd at 12:17 as if it was hand chiselled. But that is not uncommon, that was also found on Broadcaster #0032, 0033 and 0081. I am still in doubt about the originality as the video is not very good in showing the nitty gritty. The best possible thing is that this was an older (pre-production) body laying around which they used in the end to make it into a complete guitar. However every Esquire, Broadcaser, Nocaster and Telecaster remains an assembly kit from the start.

@gerritleemburg6777

2 жыл бұрын

I mean to say 'very early 1950 Fenders"

OK Norm we believe you it's a broadcaster when mentioned the flat-head screws for the 9th time !!!

Anyone else hear the THEME SONGS FROM THE THREE STOOGES 3 BLIND MICE PLAYING IN THE BACKGROUND?

Jeff Beck ! Needs to own it.

Come On Norm. You have a broadcaster body with a Tele Neck, refinished at some point with whatever for parts. Cool as hell? Yes! Original Broadcaster? No!!

@johnsmith-bk4ps

2 жыл бұрын

Slotted trusted. It's a broadcaster

@jomamma1750

2 жыл бұрын

@@johnsmith-bk4ps It's called a truss rod, and no not necessarily. That neck pocket was sloppy as all hell and it was the first thing Norm's tech checked when he pulled the bolts. Those parts did NOT come together out of Leo's factory in 1950. They're not even from the same era, they were cut to different templates bub. As far as the rod goes, truss rods break from time to time and are replaceable, if somebody put the part there, somebody can take it out and replace it. Pain in the A$$ job, granted, but plenty do-able. You take the neck apart with a flat iron. They used hide glue back then since tite-bond hadn't been invented yet. Anybody can build a truss rod out of whatever. It's a cool ax, but not an original.

@johnsmith-bk4ps

2 жыл бұрын

@@jomamma1750 so they were clever enough to change the truss rod but couldnt get the decal or body thickness or pots right? Your theory is out in left field. This is an Old broadcaster that's been around the block

@jomamma1750

2 жыл бұрын

@@johnsmith-bk4ps No my theory is solid. If it were an original the neck would fit like a glove. That neck pocket looks like some of the crap coming out of the Mexican Plant after the fire in '94. Neck pockets don't magically expand over time. What you have here is a broadcaster with a smashed neck basket case guitar siamesed with a plain jane '62 tele, and probably one with a busted truss rod to save coin, which explains the truss rod swap. That thing was built in the late 80's, early 90's, back when that old fender stuff was still pretty cheap. The amateur resto is just that. This thing was built to play not to look at. Whoever did this put the project together for $15-18 hundred and not a single dime more. Then they played it for 20 or 30 years and just played dumb when they sold it, this year, for 20 grand(or more).

@davekeating.

2 жыл бұрын

@@jomamma1750 Would you change your opinion if it transpires that both pickups are from from 1950?

Wow!

Once again, Norm and his staff are unable to convince me of anything. He’s just trying to sell a guitar. Date the pots.

@johnsmith-bk4ps

2 жыл бұрын

they did date the pot they could read. did you watch the video? a 1963 pot, which means the refin happened after 63 i,m figuring. its a refinned broadcaster, i think it looks killer, i would leave it and play it, maybe tidy up the neck pocket just a tad .there are a couple other tell tale signs of a broadcaster but i,m not sharing. if this ever comes back up for sale cheap because everyone trashed it, i,m interested

@jfredknobloch

2 жыл бұрын

@@johnsmith-bk4ps go for it! But it’s rarely about the guitar and it’s all about the fingers.

@johnsmith-bk4ps

2 жыл бұрын

@@jfredknobloch that's an old worn out cliche. Let's see how your fingers do on a 12 dollar walmart guitar

@jfredknobloch

2 жыл бұрын

@@johnsmith-bk4ps My fingers would do fine… I started on a Stella. Can you play a B-flat cord in the first position? Then it’s good enough…

@johnsmith-bk4ps

2 жыл бұрын

@@jfredknobloch except it's going to sound terrible. It's not all about the fingers . I bet the lead pickup in this broadcaster sounds righteous

It's a rewired and refined broadcaster.

Man I love Norms knowledge of guitars, but the money guitarist pay for nasty old guitars is stunning! I will take a brand new high end Tele or Les Paul any day!

Based on the electronics and refin issue it could have been submerged in water or something like a flood. I'd be interested in seeing what the body looks like under that finish.

"So they can make it look more original" it's already original. And now they already f'd it up. Great work guys!

Back in the 70's this axe would have sold for 200 bucks tops

@jts3339

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly! And in the 60’s I would have passed on it and purchased one that was in near-to-new condition.

@richsackett3423

2 жыл бұрын

If you double it and adjust for inflation, you’ll have the actual value of this guitar.

@yrulooknatme

2 жыл бұрын

I miss those days, don't you?

@jts3339

2 жыл бұрын

@@yrulooknatme I sure do!

Ultra rare!

Better title “norm tries desperately to convince you that a parts caster is from a non existent run of mystical teles that were never made, while ignoring the fact that anyone could put flat screw on it to fool him”

you are killing me banging that thing around with no towel or something under it

The bridge might have been changed like the pots were. Body is a Broadcaster for sure, but not a Gretsch! LOL

The little round thing lol 😆

Maybe, and I’m just spit balling, the bridge and pots were upgraded in the refinish. Or, the hardware was changed to make it look older along with a logo during a refinish.

It would have been great to see it blacklighted and also if you'd have put a meter on the pickups.

@johnsmith-bk4ps

2 жыл бұрын

Even mint guitars blacklight inconsistently, weird spots etc. As far as finish even refins glow correct after 10 or 20 years.

Put it under a black light to see if the cavity was possibly filled.

Ok Norm we get it there is no channel

Didn't Springsteen buy his Broadcaster from a music shop for something like $185.00 but was a mix/ match of both Tele & Broadcaster parts with an interesting history ?

@czedicartist8955

2 жыл бұрын

Yep! He bought it in 1973. It’s a composite assembled from parts from at least two other Fender guitars. The bolt-on neck seems to date from 1957, according to David Eichelbaum, a California luthier and Fender expert who has studied the guitar for decades. The Esquire decal on the headstock indicates that the neck came from the single-pickup variant of Fender’s more-popular two-pickup Telecaster. Here’s a quote from The Boss - “I strapped on my new guitar, a 1950s mutt with a Telecaster body and an Esquire neck, I’d purchased at Phil Petillo’s guitar shop for one hundred and eighty five dollars. With its wood body worn in like the piece of the cross that it was, it became the guitar that I’d play for the next 40 years. It was the best deal of my life.”

@jamesdean8669

2 жыл бұрын

@@czedicartist8955 you're absolutely right and apologies, forgotten it was an Esquire and not a Broadcaster. It's been years since recalling the story. Looked it up again and just adding to you're already accurate description.Oh, by the way! I'm sure you've looked at the cover of " Born to Run" many, many times but did you ever notice he had a decal/sticker between the bridge & headstock pickup? You'll have to look very close but it's of a guy leaning up against a lit light post.. Boasting a Telecaster body and Esquire neck, the guitar had already undergone significant modifications by the time it landed in Springsteen’s hands (for $180!).as the story goes, it was originally owned by a record company and rigged with four pickups that could all be plugged into the sound board-giving session players the ability to earn four times what they typically would with four different versions of a guitar track.As such, there was a generous amount of wood routed out from under the pickguard, which made the guitar much lighter and perfect for “The Boss’” epic concerts. After the Springsteen bought it, Petillo added hot-wound single-coil pickups and his patented Petillo Precision Frets, which were triangular, in addition to a titanium six-saddle bridge.

@charlesbolton8471

2 жыл бұрын

Eric Clapton bought the 50s Strats that became “Blackie” from George Gruhn for $100 each.

Tbh that’s what’s always rubbed me wrong about Norm and a lot of other shop owners (but not all) They just act arrogant and overhype what they’re selling, which I understand, they’re in the business of selling guitars and all but a lot of them act like what they’re selling is worth more than it actually is

Norm being careful not to say anything that would reduce the value $1.00.

some other things to check; the kluson keys should say kluson and patent pending and have no shaft hole on the side. the switch tip should say patent applied for on the bottom side. the crl 3 way switch should only have 2 patent numbers. also the knobs might be taller than a regular tele . is the wood truss plug on the headstock maple? walnut? this thing reeks of being a real broadcaster