Nomadic Space-Based Civilizations

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Spaceships and fleets of the future may host their own unique civilizations of nomads, traveling the space lanes or venturing deep into interstellar space to colonize the galaxy or flee peril. What would such cultures be like?
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Nomadic Space-Based Civilizations
Science & Futurism with Isaac Arthur
Episode 254; September 3, 2020
Written, Produced & Narrated by Isaac Arthur
Editors:
Jerry Guern
S. Kopperud
Cover Art:
Jakub Grygier www.artstation.com/jakub_grygier
Graphics:
Fishy Tree www.deviantart.com/fishytree/
Jeremy Jozwik www.artstation.com/zeuxis_of_...
Ken York / ydvisual
Kris Holland (Mafic Studios) www.maficstudios.com
LegionTech Studios
Mihail Yordanov
Music Courtesy of Epidemic Sound epidemicsound.com/creator

Пікірлер: 674

  • @pablobronstein1247
    @pablobronstein12473 жыл бұрын

    Be born into a multi-generational fleet. What is my purpose? You deliver strawberries.

  • @iluvweezies5688

    @iluvweezies5688

    2 жыл бұрын

    🤣🤣🤣ooonmmgggg

  • @bobinthewest8559

    @bobinthewest8559

    3 ай бұрын

    “We’re going that way.” “What’s there?” 🤔 “More ‘that way’.”

  • @d-l-d-l
    @d-l-d-l3 жыл бұрын

    If only someone reminded me to get a drink and snack so I could watch this video...

  • @seanbrazell6147

    @seanbrazell6147

    3 жыл бұрын

    ☕🥨

  • @unclvinny

    @unclvinny

    3 жыл бұрын

    It’s not too late! I recommend you get both and rewatch the episode.

  • @kittybeans8192

    @kittybeans8192

    3 жыл бұрын

    This drink and snack are gonna be a long one, so why not grab an Isaac Arthur video while it's all cookin'?

  • @harbl99

    @harbl99

    3 жыл бұрын

    "How did the star nomads die out?" "Insufficient supplies. If only they'd thought to bring a drink and a snack."

  • @thepropaganda1066

    @thepropaganda1066

    3 жыл бұрын

    Right it was like his calling card

  • @m.campbell3405
    @m.campbell34053 жыл бұрын

    I base my Covid timeline on when my favorite KZreadrs drop videos. It must be Thursday.

  • @tachyonicnewt2473

    @tachyonicnewt2473

    3 жыл бұрын

    I do the same thing Two days till Arthursday, must be Tuesday

  • @paulpolito2001

    @paulpolito2001

    3 жыл бұрын

    I use "time to work out or eat/drink" as a daily mnemonic index... "Time to bring garbage out" for weeks. It's been less-than-ideal

  • @LukSter18998

    @LukSter18998

    3 жыл бұрын

    “They went through Geneva unnoticed, they passed through Jodrell Bank without even a blip, which was a pity because it was exactly the thing they had been looking for all these years.”

  • @darrenhoffmann7114

    @darrenhoffmann7114

    3 жыл бұрын

    I never could get the hang of Thursdays

  • @sephthesatanist6558
    @sephthesatanist65583 жыл бұрын

    Knights of Sidonia will always have one of my favorite nomadic civilizations, the ship is incredible. Insomnia: The Ark also has an interesting nomadic civilization based on diesel-punk aesthetics and a ship that has long since fallen to ruin with its citizens having all but forgotten the original functions of the ship.

  • @LucasDimoveo
    @LucasDimoveo3 жыл бұрын

    Nomadic cultures bumping into and migrating to and away from each other is a major theme of central Asian history. The Turkic language family can be found from Crimea all the way to Sibera. It's kind of the same with Polynesian cultures. I wouldn't at all be surprised if this was th case in the future.

  • @TheRezro

    @TheRezro

    3 жыл бұрын

    Except same reason can apply here, as why it stop being a thing on larger scale with development of the feudal states. Even if I don't think that civilizations would be particularly mobile due to issues of lag in transparently more broadband communication dependent future. It doesn't mean that whole Dyson Swarms couldn't move as they absolutely can. But that doesn't apply to infrastructure. Automated mining stations, observation and military outposts naturally would spread over specific region ensuring safety of the civilization. There are no reason why at least automated scientific outpost wouldn't be placed in each system just in case if something would pop up. And nomadic civilization entering such regions could trigger response of the defenses, especially as it is hard to say what they could do to the network. Of course it is up to debate how much widespread those are and what is they usual policy (free movement could be a thing). But in my opinion only for safety reasons it would be more probable to nomadic civilization migrate on they own territory then entering unknown regions of the space. But in the end it is all just speculation.

  • @LucasDimoveo

    @LucasDimoveo

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@TheRezro I think that we are talking about two different periods of time here. Semi-nomadic and nomadic living (in Central Asia) existed up until the expansion of the Russian Empire to the Pacific. That lifestyle was made possible by the domestication of the horse.

  • @TheRezro

    @TheRezro

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@LucasDimoveo Not my point, so I don't disagree with what you said.

  • @ulisirius9027

    @ulisirius9027

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yes, all territories with migrating tribes. Arabic penninsula, Northern Africa. Very often Slave traders, headhunters... Star Wars desert planet, Riddick...

  • @TheRezro

    @TheRezro

    3 жыл бұрын

    ​@Romano Coombs People always did fight. We see that in Pre-Colombian America where bloodshed between Hunter-Gather societies and absolutely no peaceful matriarchs was the norm. Blaming crop farming for that is downright ridiculous hippie mambo jumbo. Nomadic fleets are downright asking to be raided by the pirates. They would be absolutely militarized, like you know... European merchant fleets during colonization era. Because that is exactly what those fleets would be. Prehistory was horrible 0_0

  • @lololman
    @lololman3 жыл бұрын

    In the grim darkness of the far future, there is only... the Great Khan!

  • @Joee1530

    @Joee1530

    3 жыл бұрын

    *Except for the Mongols intensifies*

  • @werewolf4358

    @werewolf4358

    3 жыл бұрын

    KHAAAAAAAAAAN!

  • @efraim6960

    @efraim6960

    3 жыл бұрын

    Dude beat me to it.

  • @mayankraj2294

    @mayankraj2294

    3 жыл бұрын

    This.

  • @the11382

    @the11382

    3 жыл бұрын

    Space Mongols lol. This episode got me thinking, what about a Nomadic civilization so big that they can afford to stop for a few centuries and dismantle entire solar systems, including the star, and then move on to the next one?

  • @suzieBirdoSum009
    @suzieBirdoSum0093 жыл бұрын

    Shout out to Tali’Zorah and the Quarian people!

  • @jwadaow

    @jwadaow

    3 жыл бұрын

    It's No Simp September

  • @Unethical.Dodgson

    @Unethical.Dodgson

    3 жыл бұрын

    RIP Quarians. ME3 did you wrong.

  • @podlodialgilap3490

    @podlodialgilap3490

    3 жыл бұрын

    Keelah'selai !

  • @Barabel22

    @Barabel22

    3 жыл бұрын

    Cao Cao Games You never were able to get the good choice where both the Geth and Quarians survive?

  • @AngelRaivan8579-xh4fr

    @AngelRaivan8579-xh4fr

    3 жыл бұрын

    They screwed themselves, endangered all non synthetic life trying to play god and now they're a bunch of secluded germaphobes with a severe attitude problem and a 'their own mistake' sized chip on their shoulder. Gotta love Sci Fi.

  • @fluffysheap
    @fluffysheap3 жыл бұрын

    To touch on Star Trek - because of course that's the most important thing about this - the notion of the "flagship" meaning the biggest and fanciest ship wasn't really a thing in the original series. TOS was much more respectful of military protocol. They even remember to call visiting captains "Commodore." Even in TNG, on the occasions that they gather a fleet together for a planned operation, they do remember to at least put an admiral in charge, such as in "Best of Both Worlds." Not sure what the ship the admiral is on is called, though!

  • @adaeptzulander2928

    @adaeptzulander2928

    3 жыл бұрын

    Something that is rather nebulous in STNG and its following series is that they always mention that Star Fleet is NOT a military organization, even though it uses military styles and culture. I don't know if the franchise ever really delved into exactly how different the organization of Star Fleet and the UFP is from a modern day military.

  • @DAndyLord
    @DAndyLord3 жыл бұрын

    I wrote a short story a few years ago about frozen colonists arriving at a planet after thousands of years asleep. Only to find that humans have populated those worlds for thousands of years once they arrived. "The Wait Time Calculation"

  • @Bendarr2

    @Bendarr2

    3 жыл бұрын

    You might be interested in this classic. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Far_Centaurus

  • @QuestionEverythingButWHY
    @QuestionEverythingButWHY3 жыл бұрын

    “There is no abstract art. You must always start with something. Afterward you can remove all traces of reality.” ― Pablo Picasso

  • @ThatGamingAsshole
    @ThatGamingAsshole3 жыл бұрын

    I find it fascinating that between this and that "colonizing Pluto" video, you have literally written TWO better scripts that would have made VASTLY better Star Wars movies than Last Jedi. Bravo sir. I'm once again reminded why I subscribed. :)

  • @Linterna001

    @Linterna001

    3 жыл бұрын

    Would be interesting that instead of visiting a planet, the characters visited a fleet civilization where nomads, pirates and civilians live or are passing by.

  • @balloonman257

    @balloonman257

    3 жыл бұрын

    Bro I was trying to forget

  • @ThatGamingAsshole

    @ThatGamingAsshole

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@balloonman257 I'm sorry, I forgot the trauma of seeing Leia turn into Marry Poppins is still fresh with many who survived that movie...

  • @timothymclean

    @timothymclean

    3 жыл бұрын

    Are we _still_ using TLJ as the "bad Star Wars movie" after _The Rise of Skywalker_ came out? At least TLJ had internal logic on its side...and didn't completely reverse any major plot points from TFA for no goddamn reason. Rey Palpatine still pisses me off.

  • @ThatGamingAsshole

    @ThatGamingAsshole

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@timothymclean Trying to clean up shit and slipping in it isn't the same thing as dropping a load...Confucius said that. :P

  • @UNSCPILOT
    @UNSCPILOT3 жыл бұрын

    We need to get Isaac to make a scifi show somehow, I'd love to watch the journey of these realistic fleets of colony ships and the various misadventures along the way

  • @johnburt7935

    @johnburt7935

    3 жыл бұрын

    He's making an SF show right now: SFIA.

  • @mr.dr0bot731
    @mr.dr0bot7313 жыл бұрын

    I literally just thought of a story about this very topic.

  • @isaacarthurSFIA

    @isaacarthurSFIA

    3 жыл бұрын

    I hope you got some good brainstorming from the episode then, and the writing goes well :)

  • @intothevoid9417

    @intothevoid9417

    3 жыл бұрын

    Nice, I also played with the idea some time ago, just a nice break from being tied down to some capital planet

  • @melvinjansen2338

    @melvinjansen2338

    3 жыл бұрын

    You are nowhere the first.. Nomads can be thought of everywhere. It's because we already know it and some of us already are and have been for years. No big leap to imagine them in space.

  • @melvinjansen2338

    @melvinjansen2338

    3 жыл бұрын

    Just gotta have a smart way to make it stick out from the rest. I think that's where the worth lies.

  • @bmoneybby

    @bmoneybby

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@melvinjansen2338 right on time comes the ships leader. Captain Obvious

  • @anthonythompson6053
    @anthonythompson60533 жыл бұрын

    5:29 That sounds very Warhammer 40k: In the grim darkness of the far future, the noble House of Pineapples of the Navis Nobilite seeks to corner the market of glorious golden fruits bound for the Throneworld!

  • @Glasher1
    @Glasher13 жыл бұрын

    @Isaac Author 4:40 Instead of so much strife, I see this part reminiscent of past rural America with much of the farms and trucking companies being family owned and operated supplying the cities. Fast forward to the future you speak of, I see it as eventually becoming rural space.

  • @bobinthewest8559

    @bobinthewest8559

    Жыл бұрын

    Much of the strife in the world today, exists simply because it is no longer a simple thing to just “load up a wagon and go west.” Humanity undeniably NEEDS “new frontier” to expand into... We NEED for space exploration to become affordable for all... so that “common folk” can once again “load up a wagon and go west”...

  • @zylaaeria2627
    @zylaaeria26273 жыл бұрын

    You know, every time I watch these episodes with the story elements in them, I can't help but feel a special appreciation for these. We spend so much time pondering at the possibilities of the future like immense megastructures & other technological marvels that we can only dream of today, but we tend to forget about the individual's place in all of this. The individual needles of a mighty cosmic pine tree spanning across time; each one a story unto itself waiting to be told & understood. It is always fun to remember that despite how far we have come since the days of hunting & foraging, we in the 21st century are still little more than the sapling of this great tree of Humanity - still basking in the afterglow of the Big Bang. A tree that will blossom into something truly incredible indeed.

  • @Paroll123
    @Paroll1233 жыл бұрын

    Best way to start the day, coffee and pondering the vast unknown of the future

  • @cannonfodder4376
    @cannonfodder43763 жыл бұрын

    Arthursday! Always a day I look forward to. Teaching and inspiring me, the future never looks so bleak when watching a SFIA video.

  • @littlegravitas9898
    @littlegravitas98983 жыл бұрын

    Excuse me as I pause my nomadic wanderings to stock up on drinks and snacks. The journey, it sounds like, will be an interesting one!

  • @carolprice1389

    @carolprice1389

    3 жыл бұрын

    Life is a strange and weird journey.

  • @Aconspiracyofravens1

    @Aconspiracyofravens1

    3 жыл бұрын

    btw would fleeing vacuum decai be another option

  • @LoisoPondohva

    @LoisoPondohva

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Aconspiracyofravens1 not really. Vacuum decay moves at the speed of light. So: 1. You can't detect it beforehand. 2. You can't outrun it. That, of course, considering light speed as a limit. But if it's not, nomadic fleets are obsolete.

  • @Aconspiracyofravens1

    @Aconspiracyofravens1

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@LoisoPondohva yeah that's what makes it so scary also, you can link two atoms together using quantum bullshitery and use it as an instant warning system

  • @LoisoPondohva

    @LoisoPondohva

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Aconspiracyofravens1 nah, information cannot be transmitted by quantum entanglement. Not 'we can't do it yet', but in concept. Might be something else. But we don't know.

  • @jazzbefos9303
    @jazzbefos93033 жыл бұрын

    You should write science fiction books. I think it'd be cool (I would buy) if you wrote either a series or even just a short story. You could incorporate so many of your video topics, or none if you want. You'd be the author so I'll support whatever you do.

  • @johnburt7935

    @johnburt7935

    3 жыл бұрын

    Aren't Isaac's videos short stories and novelettes in themselves?

  • @AppletonPermaculture

    @AppletonPermaculture

    3 жыл бұрын

    I thought this, but then thought, isn't this better? The story telling, the animation, it is art.

  • @Jabbaholl
    @Jabbaholl3 жыл бұрын

    One of my favourite channels! Isaac you do a top notch job. Got my brew and biscuits ready

  • @isaacarthurSFIA

    @isaacarthurSFIA

    3 жыл бұрын

    Enjoy!

  • @Jabbaholl

    @Jabbaholl

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@isaacarthurSFIA I always do... can I just say congratulations to you and you lovely wife... I only watched the video with that at the end the other night. It looked a beautiful ceremony even with the social distancing. I wish you an eternity of happiness.

  • @mayankraj2294

    @mayankraj2294

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Jabbaholl wbat are you talking about?

  • @Jabbaholl

    @Jabbaholl

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@mayankraj2294 at the end of one of Isaacs videos it shows his wedding. I was saying a belated congratulations as I have only just watched it! Was quite self explanatory really

  • @narxes
    @narxes3 жыл бұрын

    Beltalowda! The Earthers and the Dusters will feel the wrath of the Free Navy!

  • @septegram
    @septegram3 жыл бұрын

    Robert Heinlein "Citizen of the Galaxy." Larry Niven "The Fourth Profession." Spacefaring traders; one culture with FTL, one without.

  • @cortholiopezorama8879

    @cortholiopezorama8879

    3 жыл бұрын

    Vernor binge also has the Queng Ho in “A Deepness In The Sky” as a slower than light trading collective.

  • @ericvandet8517

    @ericvandet8517

    3 жыл бұрын

    How about "Downbelow Station" and the culture of the Alliance in the Alliance-Union series by C. J. Cherryh. A culture of traders bound to their ships - starting out as Sub-light and only later developing FTL.

  • @SergeyPRKL

    @SergeyPRKL

    3 жыл бұрын

    Alastair Reynolds "House of Suns " has also sort of nomadic family "lines". It tells a story about the Gentian line that travels around galaxy... check it out.

  • @whitneylackenbauer9782

    @whitneylackenbauer9782

    3 жыл бұрын

    Jan Sergejeff it is very good

  • @AyushRaj-vg8lv
    @AyushRaj-vg8lv3 жыл бұрын

    For a science fiction author, this channel is a gold mine

  • @HankScorpio
    @HankScorpio3 жыл бұрын

    There is another example in Larry Nevin's ringworld.

  • @tealc6218

    @tealc6218

    3 жыл бұрын

    Puppeteers [┐∵]┘

  • @orsonzedd

    @orsonzedd

    3 жыл бұрын

    The Irken in Invader Zim

  • @sid2112

    @sid2112

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@capturedflame Would you want to do it? Would you want to eat the tree of life and change? As a man at the age, I say yes.

  • @michaelshortland8863

    @michaelshortland8863

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@sid2112 I say yes as well.

  • @BaseDeltaZero1972
    @BaseDeltaZero19723 жыл бұрын

    It is rare that any creator can put out such a sheer volume of consistantly high quality content on such a regular basis...his episodes never seem stale, old or run of the mill. Todays episode did it's job of firing the imagination and sending us far into the deep-dark. Isaac is a master of this. By far the best channel of this type on YT.

  • @maxlee3838
    @maxlee38383 жыл бұрын

    I think we’re already a nomadic space culture, just sort of stuck on this rock as it hurtles around the galactic center.

  • @nerowulfee9210
    @nerowulfee92103 жыл бұрын

    In space, no one can hear your throat singing.

  • @marlonlacert8133

    @marlonlacert8133

    3 жыл бұрын

    Unless they are condemned to the same ship as you. Where even the deaf could feel the vibrations in everything they touch.

  • @animistchannel2983

    @animistchannel2983

    3 жыл бұрын

    In space, the chant and the yoik are free to fill all the hollows, reverberating among the myriad connections of the vast structures, until the harmonics may fill an entire galaxy. The cosmos is a song waiting for you to sing it, from the depths of the past to the far reaches of the future. "Eivør - Salt (Lyric Video)" From the seas of the Cambrian Explosion, to the Sea of Stars, the note resounds, ever-remembered and yet ever-anew.

  • @sid2112

    @sid2112

    3 жыл бұрын

    Klaes Ashford would disagree.

  • @jack1701e

    @jack1701e

    3 жыл бұрын

    The HU in spaaaacceee!

  • @willyreeves319
    @willyreeves3193 жыл бұрын

    loved the final comparison of a gardener ship to Earth from the view of it's inhabitants it its stationary and everything else is moving. Einstein would be proud

  • @theguyfromsaturn
    @theguyfromsaturn3 жыл бұрын

    I so feel your pain with regards to ranks and roles in my (mostly TV) science fiction. One of my favourite Sci-Fi series is the Honor Harrington series. No such problem there. The only issues in that series, is that the protagonist is more than a bit marysueish.The world building is very good, and the fleet tactics are taylored on the technology. Space battles are so often unsatisfactory in Sci-Fi (and yes, I have issues even with the Expanse on this, while weapons shown seem realistic in of themselves, the distances at which battles would actually start, and its consequences for attack and defense are not at all taken into account).

  • @corwinweber693

    @corwinweber693

    3 жыл бұрын

    I get the marysue accusation, but I have to disagree with it. She's always been shown as being horrible at trying to do navigational math intentionally, to the point of almost having panic attacks over the subject. (Although she does seem to have some ability to do it instinctively, that's not something she can do reliably.) Also, a number of her more admirable traits...... well..... kinda tend to bite her in the ass sometimes. Like her lack of any ability to consider the possibility of engaging any sort of reverse gear. (A trait that's served her well in combat, sure.... but is also arguably why she has so many cybernetic parts.) Let's face it. Honor does have a habit of.... displaying.... well.... 'more balls than brains' sometimes. Even when she's smart enough to know that she shouldn't do something, sometimes she just can't help herself. She's also, well, to put it delicately, a bit of a psychopath. A well controlled one, sure..... she has an incredibly strong moral compass and sense of honor that keeps her from becoming a monster, but when 'The Salamander' comes out, even her husband is kinda freaked out by how bleak and ruthless that aspect of her personality is. She's also portrayed even outside of her Salamander aspect as being pretty traumatized. She's had a lot of people die on her, and that kind of pain leaves a mark.

  • @marrqi7wini54
    @marrqi7wini543 жыл бұрын

    I'm seeing a lot of footage of Hades 9. I wonder how that game is going along?

  • @evilbarrels2506

    @evilbarrels2506

    3 жыл бұрын

    A year ago they made a post saying the game is not dead, and that was basically the last major news we heard from the devs. Reading comments on their subreddit and messages on their Discord, it sounds like they just ran out of money; they don't even have enough funds left to keep their website online right now. I haven't been following the project, but at a glance, it appears they ran out of resources in November last year, and have been limping along since then. Development is continuing, but it's at a hobbyist's pace, and updates are small and sporadic.

  • @marrqi7wini54

    @marrqi7wini54

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@evilbarrels2506 That's a shame but it's good that there's some news on it.

  • @evilbarrels2506

    @evilbarrels2506

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Romano Coombs I'm not really sure where you're going with that, I brought up Hades' lack of funds being a problem since development has basically ceased, to the point the project doesn't even have a website anymore. They still have a volunteer development team, but very little progress is being made since almost anything that requires time or money has been slowed or outright halted.

  • @FireJaadoo
    @FireJaadoo3 жыл бұрын

    Best sc fi videos in KZread

  • @Alexbl100
    @Alexbl1003 жыл бұрын

    Have you ever played Stellaris? I'm quite amazed that most alien civilization you describe somewhat exist in that game. The nomad fleets will probably get started as a trading prospect, vast amount of merchants , cargo haulers forming their independent company/government

  • @isuckatusernames4297

    @isuckatusernames4297

    Жыл бұрын

    modded stellaris is a hell of a drug

  • @briansmithbeta
    @briansmithbeta3 жыл бұрын

    12:25 I think locating, contacting, and uplifting every single slower-than-light generation ship that was previously sent out will be a moral imperative that rises to the top of the ToDo list if FTL ever gets invented. In fact, I think that should be considered the default course of action, and any story that posits an FTL ship effectively “driving past a generation ship without stopping” needs a damn good reason why that’s done. In fact, now that I think about it, it’s a special case of the Fermi Paradox: The occupants of the generation ship can be reasonably confident that FTL hasn’t been invented as long as nobody from their home civilization contacts them, because any reason for NOT contacting them would have to be universal enough that not even one single FTL ship ever even visits them for long enough to send a broadcast with FTL instructions. If you’re still not convinced, consider this: Humans aren't like the fictional profit-focused Ferengi from Star Trek and hopefully never will be, but even profit-crazed Ferengi would visit generation ships if for no other reason than to exploit the situation by extracting a king's ransom in exchange for the FTL blueprints. They might only do so before racing forward to steal the destination's prime real estate anyway, before the generation ship can build the tech from the blueprints. Heck, the FTL ship might even give the generation ship a set of _fake_ blueprints just to screw them over. But, crucially, they would _still contact them_. For these reasons and others, I think a situation in which a slower-than-light Earth-originating generation ship arriving at a planet and finding it already colonized by their own civilization is something that would almost never actually happen if FTL were invented.

  • @_Muzolf

    @_Muzolf

    3 жыл бұрын

    That is all fine and dandy, until you get some limitation for your FTL like "can only leave hyperspace near large gravity wells" or something similar.

  • @michaelwenek76

    @michaelwenek76

    3 жыл бұрын

    Not stopping to chat would be the ultimate d*ck move, no?

  • @lukasmakarios4998

    @lukasmakarios4998

    3 жыл бұрын

    I tend to agree that it would be morally problematic to race ahead of a slower colony ship and "steal" their destination. Definitely an action to be forbidden by a categorical imperative. Such an action might be considered so repugnant that it could start a war... something you want to avoid when starships tend to have nuclear power and blueprints for weapons of mass destruction on board.

  • @lukasmakarios4998

    @lukasmakarios4998

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@_Muzolf - sounds like a sorry excuse for not communicating to give them the technology, free gratis, as you pass by.

  • @_Muzolf

    @_Muzolf

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@lukasmakarios4998 I said nothing about not telling them, but even with 3d printing and construction capabilities, i am not so sure about a colony ship in the middle of nowhere being able to implement all new technologies, especially stuff like FTL, something i image would not all be that easy. Even with no FTL, heck especially with no FTL, ships in transit might just not be something you cannot effectively help, simply because your new shiny faster travel mode still needs to speed up and slow down. And just leaving their destination to them might not be an option, if there are other competitors in play.

  • @johnkoch3176
    @johnkoch31763 жыл бұрын

    Parts of this sound similar to Larry Niven's "Building Harlequin's Moon"

  • @bryward2820
    @bryward28203 жыл бұрын

    I love these videos I love science and space thank you

  • @mjk9388
    @mjk93883 жыл бұрын

    Wow! One of the best episodes ever! There were many questions about Gardener Ships that were answered and so many more things talked about that I hadn't considered before. That's why I love SFIA. Great job as always Isaac and crew.

  • @luzi29
    @luzi293 жыл бұрын

    I always ask why everyone wants to go to Mars if it is clearly more interesting and easy to just build space bound structures like the iss or even bigger structures. The iss is such an successful project. Just imagine if we could build larger structures... Why go to a planet why look back down🤷🏼‍♂️

  • @ApexHerbivore
    @ApexHerbivore3 жыл бұрын

    I love thinking about this kind of stuff but it makes me feel so envious!!

  • @noonespecific9463
    @noonespecific94633 жыл бұрын

    I can listen to your thoughts on all this type of stuff all day Sir. You make awesome content!! You have a gift for making longer videos not at all boring. A rare gift I think. Always excited to see your videos pop up!

  • @joeycook6526
    @joeycook65263 жыл бұрын

    Isaac’s insights and novel perspectives never cease to amaze me. This one was especially good.

  • @notlessgrossman163
    @notlessgrossman1633 жыл бұрын

    Here's the thing: Discovery Channel i pay for should give air time to M. Arthur's YT presentations. I don't understand why Discovery Channel has such low brow crap content and the best stuff is here on YT

  • @dirkstarbuck6126

    @dirkstarbuck6126

    3 жыл бұрын

    Because they are cheap. And they think we are stupid. “Let them die!”

  • @P4GYY
    @P4GYY3 жыл бұрын

    good LOTR refrences my nerdy friend

  • @code4chaosmobile
    @code4chaosmobile3 жыл бұрын

    Really enjoyed the logistics of getting and slowing down

  • @volcryndarkstar3283
    @volcryndarkstar32833 жыл бұрын

    Jeez Isaac, you come up with hypothetical scenarios for single episodes of your show that could easily be fleshed out into novels. I wanna know what happens with your fleet! Does the founding of Kepler Town go according to plan? Does Pioneer's Gamble become a thriving deep space colony unto itself? Does the tension between the two opposing directives lead to violence? Please write books.

  • @EpimetheusLC
    @EpimetheusLC3 жыл бұрын

    This the most excited I've been before watching an episode.

  • @musafawundu6718
    @musafawundu67183 жыл бұрын

    I like your shoutouts to Warhammer 40K. As a fan, I am happy that you mention them when and where they are relevant.

  • @pantsfortwo4611
    @pantsfortwo46113 жыл бұрын

    Fantastic video!!! Reminded me of some of my fav old school SFIA episodes 💗

  • @michaela2634
    @michaela26343 жыл бұрын

    That was a fun episode! Thanks as always Isaac

  • @jgr7487
    @jgr74873 жыл бұрын

    that realization that we are, in a way, nomad civilizations was the biggest mind blown moment I've ever had on this channel!

  • @austinhealey1120
    @austinhealey11203 жыл бұрын

    Love your videos man, thanks for taking the time 🤘🤘

  • @hisgreasiness
    @hisgreasiness3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you very much for creating videos that get straight to business. It's a welcome departure from your peers' trend of padding content with unnecessary fan fair. I salute you sir.

  • @Vanyx1000
    @Vanyx10003 жыл бұрын

    Yes! I've been excitingly anticipating this!

  • @anthonyhargis6855
    @anthonyhargis68553 жыл бұрын

    Always fascinating Issac.

  • @travisporco
    @travisporco3 жыл бұрын

    These kinds of videos are some of the best on the channel!

  • @animistchannel2983
    @animistchannel29833 жыл бұрын

    So nice to see a return to the storytelling-style episode. I think this is really more effective than ones where the script is basically reading off a spreadsheet of exponents. The future is so big -- so utterly swarming with bigness -- you have to find a personal-sized space to concentrate on as an example, a little arrow that says, "You are here!" before pulling back to see the vast tapestry into which that fits.

  • @VegaAstroVideos
    @VegaAstroVideos3 жыл бұрын

    another great video Isaac

  • @artificialintelligence5087
    @artificialintelligence50873 жыл бұрын

    I just found out you live in Ashtabula. I live not far away in Youngstown and I listen to your videos every day while fixing the house, for some reason I'm really productive when your videos are playing! You rock!

  • @pl0y
    @pl0y3 жыл бұрын

    love you isaac. thanks for all the great content.

  • @williamschmutzer8800
    @williamschmutzer88003 жыл бұрын

    I had forgotten that I have already subscribed to Isaac Arthur and he is fantastic! ☺️

  • @edwardstone1654

    @edwardstone1654

    Жыл бұрын

    Damn straight Skippy!

  • @o2bnob
    @o2bnob3 жыл бұрын

    I just joined the CuriosityStream. Thank you such great interesting stuff!

  • @davien001
    @davien0013 жыл бұрын

    Another great video to ponder.

  • @LiamsLyceum
    @LiamsLyceum2 жыл бұрын

    The Cielcin from the Sun Eater series by Christopher Ruocchio are nomadic, living in ships that are hollowed out asteroids.

  • @arome5901
    @arome59013 жыл бұрын

    You never disappoint Issac. Been a sub since the beginning.

  • @Hyltran
    @Hyltran3 жыл бұрын

    I love that you are so optimistic and tjat you look so bright at the future :)

  • @TarisRedwing
    @TarisRedwing3 жыл бұрын

    That was a really cool perspective and tied up nicely at the end

  • @Rkenton48
    @Rkenton483 жыл бұрын

    I always thought of the ships on Star Trek as Submarines, since they do rely on sensors rather than sight, and you do have a Captain in charge of a sub. right?

  • @crazyahhkmed
    @crazyahhkmed3 жыл бұрын

    As a fellow veteran, I can 100% relate to that annoyance with unrealistic military command structures in sci fi. I've also had my share of experiences with micromanagement within commands.

  • @knallpistolen
    @knallpistolen3 жыл бұрын

    Happy Arthursday.

  • @celioribeiro8476
    @celioribeiro84763 жыл бұрын

    another great video Arthur you are a great !

  • @severussin
    @severussin3 жыл бұрын

    the imagery on this is stellar

  • @andrefiker2011
    @andrefiker20113 жыл бұрын

    You make awesome videos!

  • @BlueArcStreaming
    @BlueArcStreaming3 жыл бұрын

    The whole Grand Pioneer and Keplertown scenario is so fascinating, fantastic ! So much to consider, so many quandaries in society, morality, legality, technology - shows the future has so much challenge, as in the ethical problems in AI, immortality, and on and on Use of 'mutation' to describe long term change

  • @manymusings
    @manymusings3 жыл бұрын

    Love this!

  • @sterlingayu
    @sterlingayu3 жыл бұрын

    The unlimited boundary of imagination and endless possibilities explored by Isaac Arthur can become an academia major alone. I'd want to binge everything from the past 400+ ep but yet would take a lot more time to process, digest, and enjoy all of the contents he's bless us with. Horray to Sire Arthur!

  • @lewinthistle
    @lewinthistle3 жыл бұрын

    Especially well written and concluded episode!

  • @aspiringnormie9499
    @aspiringnormie94993 жыл бұрын

    I'm currently going through BSG 2004 for the first time! Started season 3 last night!

  • @sid2112

    @sid2112

    3 жыл бұрын

    Great series, you'll enjoy season 4.

  • @12201185234
    @122011852343 жыл бұрын

    The ending makes me think of the ultras from Revelation Space.

  • @SergeyPRKL

    @SergeyPRKL

    3 жыл бұрын

    Ahh, ALastair Reynolds. I love Ultras :)

  • @Lukegear
    @Lukegear3 жыл бұрын

    Yes! Another one

  • @justinG9493
    @justinG94933 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for another cool post. I love your channel, thanks for all your cool work.

  • @MrKIMBO345
    @MrKIMBO3453 жыл бұрын

    The space nomadic civilization is possible if the humanity don't have Faster than Lights technology because finding another home planets are hard due to the condition. Plus, space nomadic civilization are easy to defend as well. Great video 🙂

  • @taith2
    @taith23 жыл бұрын

    I kinda came up with an idea for a near light speed ship myself, it would never be intended to stop. It just collects matter in it's way, using hydrogen as fuel and rest of materials to build much smaller offshoot capsule, that would later be decelerated with 1G of force using lasers until it stops with excess of population near star system. Neat feature of it is using mirror multiple times to bounce between ships, until it red shifts too much, also decelerates colonist real fast, without main ship ever stopping.

  • @lukasmakarios4998

    @lukasmakarios4998

    3 жыл бұрын

    Cool! You could colonize an intermittent path across the galaxy in only 100,000 years, leaving maybe 2,000 colony pods in your wake. Hopefully, the drop-offs have enough skills and tools to build whatever they need wherever they land. It's a neat idea, to do the most in one trip. Interesting to think how your trail would look, as the Sun and Earth might have traveled 40% of a galactic orbit in that same time.

  • @thomashager1424

    @thomashager1424

    3 жыл бұрын

    Poul Anderson beat you to it in his 1970 novel "Tau Zero."

  • @taith2

    @taith2

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@thomashager1424 thanks for the story to read Wish sci-fi, especially hard sci-fi was so popular like creepypastas. Haven't seen narrating channels reading bunch of sci-fi fan works created by aspiring writers or fans.

  • @Reyajh

    @Reyajh

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@thomashager1424 Actually, that's not what he's saying. His idea is sufficiently different.

  • @thomashager1424

    @thomashager1424

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Reyajh You're right. "Tau Zero" is strictly about a colony ship that approaches light speed, but because of a malfunction, is unable to decelerate.

  • @FutureMatrioshkaBrain
    @FutureMatrioshkaBrain3 жыл бұрын

    This is exactly what I wanted for a few months.

  • @raydavison4288
    @raydavison42883 жыл бұрын

    BRAVO! Well done.

  • @HankScorpio
    @HankScorpio3 жыл бұрын

    I like the new format ;Storytime with Isaac Arthur

  • @ancapftw9113
    @ancapftw91133 жыл бұрын

    That enemy civilization that's chasing you might be a splinter group that was once part of your parent civilization. Maybe their ships adopted slower but more efficient engines, and your ancestors saw them as the enemy because of the dufference of opinion on adopting those engines.

  • @Lawofimprobability
    @Lawofimprobability3 жыл бұрын

    One of the ideas in Orson Scott Card's depiction of the universe of Ender's Game is a group of people who had gotten so used to living in microgravity that they had ceased to be able to tolerate regular gravity. They became nomadic because they had to specialize to staying in space.

  • @carloscolon8882
    @carloscolon88823 жыл бұрын

    I love this .

  • @anonymousrex5207
    @anonymousrex52073 жыл бұрын

    These voyages would ultimately be unsuccessful because everyone in charge would go crazy and crash the ship after a few hundred years of "are we there yet? are we there yet?"

  • @cosmic_gate476
    @cosmic_gate4763 жыл бұрын

    Good morning Isaac!

  • @praetorurbanus2917
    @praetorurbanus29173 жыл бұрын

    In the original BSG, the Cylons were not made by Man, but by a reptilian race also called the Cylons (per the first three episodes). But the robotic Cylons did still rebel against their makers and exterminate them.

  • @cybercomputerized2074
    @cybercomputerized20743 жыл бұрын

    Even though I don't agree with everything you have to say in your videos, I respect the hell out of you for continuing to make them.

  • @Merennulli
    @Merennulli2 жыл бұрын

    The usage in Star Trek was often the naval term you're thinking of, with several "flagships" of various fleets, such as the Enterprise serving as the flagship of the fleet used to form a tachyon web to stop the Romulans interfering in the Klingon civil war, or the doomed flagships of every redshirt admiral that fought the Borg. The "Flagship of the Federation" moniker, though, was the other definition of flagship - The most important or best example of something. I particularly liked "Building Harlequin's Moon" by Larry Niven and Brenda Cooper that told a similar story of a long-term colony ship making a stop along the way and having to deal with diverging priorities. They used cryosleep instead of life extension to make people live longer, and it was a case of fleeing a society they didn't agree with, but it hit several of the same notes and did an amazing job of spanning a compelling story across thousands of years.

  • @DeSpaceFairy
    @DeSpaceFairy3 жыл бұрын

    I really like the idea of nomadic space civilizations, setting laser highways between the stars. But I am under the impression that kind of job would be better suited, to self-replicating machines, than "humans" people in charge of a such task.

  • @rwarren58
    @rwarren583 жыл бұрын

    Don't forget the members of Secundus. Lazurus Long would be disappointed. This has become my favorite channel.

  • @andrewmichaelschaefferXIV
    @andrewmichaelschaefferXIV3 жыл бұрын

    Awesome Epilogue Wow

  • @samukis272
    @samukis2723 жыл бұрын

    Happy Arthursday indeed!

  • @bruceediger425
    @bruceediger4253 жыл бұрын

    "Riding the Torch" by Norman Spinrad is another such Sci-Fi nomadic civilization. Grim, but interesting.

  • @harkonen1000000
    @harkonen10000003 жыл бұрын

    Probably the best scene of flag captain vs admiral is in Legend of Galactic Heroes: My Conquest Is the Sea of Stars, where the flag captain chews out the admiral over giving orders for the ship directly.

  • @cavemaneca
    @cavemaneca3 жыл бұрын

    Well now I need to know what happens next! Do they make their timeline? Does this rock in deep space become a new hub? I'm invested in their future already!