$50k should get you a fully loaded half ton truck. $30k - $35k should get you a fully loaded midsize truck. Prices are too crazy.

@elche1976

28 күн бұрын

Everything has gone up. You think vehicles should be immune?

@Savvynomad225

28 күн бұрын

You can argue that for all things. Have you been to a restaurant lately?

@rickthomas422

28 күн бұрын

Adjusted for inflation these trucks are right in line with how Toyota has always priced them.

@thepositivelyfe8114

28 күн бұрын

@@elche1976 peoples salaries should be immune? That hasn't gone up.

@SuperSnakePlissken

28 күн бұрын

Pre-Biden days that was the pricing.

At that price... smart people will ignore any car or truck. Keep what you have, be smart.

@commonsenseisntcommon1776

27 күн бұрын

Still cruising my 2015 crv

@stevebeard7667

27 күн бұрын

Exactly!

@iskdude9922

27 күн бұрын

Wait until hyperinflation comes when the u.s. empire gets destroyed

@FullsendOffroad

27 күн бұрын

That's only trucks. Many cars still do well. Civics and Corollas can still be gotten for a nice 20k. Nissan versa starts at 16k. Subarus also keep their prices nice.

@CRICRICTH

27 күн бұрын

True

Went to my local dealer today. They had 31 Tundras & 5 Tacomas. I looked at a Taco SR5 4x2 that was just under $48k. Absolutely INSANE!

@rickthomas422

27 күн бұрын

It's what the dealers are ordering though. These things have crazy options. I bought a 4x4 TRD Off Road two weeks ago with the upgraded screens for $44,500. You theoretically could by a base 4x4 TRD Off Road for around $42,500. And the dealership closest to my house can get you SRs for around $34,000 right now. Still a little higher than the competition, but not when you factor in the traditionally higher resale values and toyota reliability.

@ImportedFromSerbia

27 күн бұрын

@@earthquake1011 don't worry, he will not show up anymore.

@crush9197

26 күн бұрын

@@earthquake1011he’s lying

@justinstewart3248

24 күн бұрын

@@rickthomas422the dealers do not “order” anymore - at all. Toyota changed this model a couple years ago. They are only allocated various models based on how Toyota itself wants to do it.

@Farcehole

22 күн бұрын

My local dealer has 20+ new Tacomas. All are 4-door with the 5-ft bed. Why bother bringing back the Prerunner if not going to allocate any?

Prices will not change until we stop buying them.

@handsomerob9715

25 күн бұрын

100%!!!!

@lurkintomgaming397

24 күн бұрын

I’m not buying them!! Fuck them they ruined an amazing truck line !!

@jeffwolf8018

24 күн бұрын

It looks like that's finally starting to slowly happen. As Toyota is not the only one having a hard time selling their vehicles. EVs are all but dead at this point.. my prediction for over the last year is by 2035 when the EVS are supposed to take over completely. Tesla will gone for years by then.

@billw8476

24 күн бұрын

@@jeffwolf8018 ev's is a fad that is ending

@kpag3030

23 күн бұрын

That is 100% true.

Just bought my LAST TOYOTA !. 2024 Toyota 4Runner TRD Off Road ! BYE BYE TOYOTA YOU'VE LOST YOUR WAY !

@nathangibson2114

28 күн бұрын

Thinking about doing the same. I'd like some of the new stuff but that power train is immortal.

@ShenmueAtheist

28 күн бұрын

Same. I bought same trim back in February. I'm holding onto it until it dies when I'm 90 lol

@worstusername22

28 күн бұрын

I don't get it, theyre not good but you still bought one?

@forbeslife1

28 күн бұрын

@@worstusername22he bought a 24,4 -runner

@timalan7406

27 күн бұрын

I did the same thing. In January I bought a 2024 Trd off-road 4Runner because I know the 2025 4Runner will go up $10,000 in cost and down $10,000 in value.

🤣 Toyota seems overconfident

@dakotaslt232001

28 күн бұрын

Just like the Big 3.

@itsallminor6133

28 күн бұрын

Biggest auto company in the world. They set the stage. If they say the truck is worth 45k It's worth 45k.

@thadlm2698

27 күн бұрын

@@itsallminor6133Not…

@FullsendOffroad

27 күн бұрын

The only toyota I'll buy from this point is the corolla. Prices haven't gotten to the corolla. That's why it's the best selling car in the world.

@cwqrpportable

27 күн бұрын

@@itsallminor6133 That kind of thinking destroyed GM in the 70s. You're so wrong

Here in Oregon...I saw a 2024 Tacoma TRD off road with a $9500 dealer price adjustment and a total price of $55648....not to mention it was a 3 year lease, for $872 a month. Crazy times...and the icing on the cake is the $5565 due at signing. Wow! what a Deal!

@commonsenseisntcommon1776

27 күн бұрын

You live in Oregon? 😬

@jerryclleung

27 күн бұрын

That is just plain EFFEN INSANE!!! At $872 a month lease, they’re valuing it at almost $90k, with a $5600 due at signing???!!! Who the eff comes up with those numbers???!!! I truly hope that STEALERship’s cars rust out on their lot!!!

@scottblinn

27 күн бұрын

Let me guess - it was a Kendall stealership?

@PerformanceProjects

27 күн бұрын

Here in Idaho, local dealer had an SR5 4x4 5ft for 53k. It already sold. A fool and his money and all that…..

@edking4226

27 күн бұрын

Yikes...me too! Bend I got my 2021 Army green with a pretty decent package for just over 40k . Now I think the prices of the 3rd Gen's are going to be pretty stable...for a long time. Why didn't they put the Sienna template and go with a 6cyl hybrid which gets the same 21mpg as shown on these models.

I use to buy a new Tacoma every four years but I can't afford one anymore It's a rich man's truck now

@PWCDN

23 күн бұрын

replacing your car every 4 years is already a rich man habit lol

@Robcadams1974

21 күн бұрын

@@PWCDN you could certainly say that. But I wasn't rich, just foolish and I came to the realization of that. But is a legit rich man's truck now. $60k for 4wd mid size truck is crazy.

$30K-$40K then they will sale not for $50K + Toyota should go back to be made in Japan back to it’s roots

@J.Young808

28 күн бұрын

Unfortunately because of the Chicken tax that took effect around 1995 (first year of Tacoma built in California) trucks cannot be built outside North America

@realyouth5273

27 күн бұрын

Facts

@TrekTracks74

27 күн бұрын

@@J.Young808Well someone in accounting at these auto companies is going to figure out lobbying to get a tariff removed is- probably a lot cheaper than moving to Mexico, building a factory, producing low quality government restricted overpriced trucks, and shipping them all over the western world, only to watch them sit and rot Just MHO -But hey what do we know we’re just customers!

@laveth

27 күн бұрын

@@J.Young808 very base level description and not necessarily true.

@charliemcawesome5012

27 күн бұрын

It’s amazing that people think it’s Toyota that’s raising prices. It’s called inflation and everything is 30% more. Vote Biden again.

People still saying that are just feverish fanboys coping and lying to themselves.. fuck this truck until it’s 50k for the TRD Pro like it was supposed to be and like their direct competition, and if that never happens then it’s fuck this truck for the remainder of its life cycle. Come out with a solid product with pricing that is reflected by the massive savings you’re getting by moving production to Mexico. Until then, I repeat, fuck this stupid idea of a truck. For 48k you can get a 2 wheel drive Tacoma with manual cloth seats, baby screen, weak no tread tires, no features, made in Mexico, or you can get a Colorado ZR2 with all the features as standard, big screens, leather heated and cooled power seats, sliding rear window, Quality MT tires, premium off road suspension, lift, better styling, more features, produced right here in Missouri. Someone please tell me how Toyota is going to sell a midsize truck for 20 grand more than their competition, the same year they moved production of said truck fully to Mexico.. how is Chevy manufacturing trucks in the U.S. and selling them for 30% less msrp than Toyota who’s manufacturing in Mexico for pennies on the dollar? I’m about to sour on Toyota completely, they are lucky that someone somewhere is still doing an okay job with the Land Cruiser, and after this debacle my expectations for that have dropped significantly. I was excited about this generation of Tacoma and instantly regretted it once they started arriving. This generation is bogus, the Tacoma is bogus, and Toyota are kind of rat bastards for the shit they’re pulling if I’m being honest, idk about you guys but I don’t like giving my hard earned money to rat bastard companies.

@Bob-cd5pp

27 күн бұрын

Well said

@consciousness417

27 күн бұрын

Well said dude! For that price I can get a lightly used Powerboost f150 too! I've seen VERY clean and low mileage examples for 40-50k, ranger raptor is 10k less than the Pro.. I was saving, I had a 15k down payment for the Tacoma, super excited to get the hybrid TRD Offroad, I'm not paying 58k+ for a midsize truck.

@christopherkozal7987

27 күн бұрын

Wow…epic rant there! This Taco is a huge step forward over its predecessor. It’s incredibly expensive but I hate to tell you this, but inflation is a B! You probably voted for it. Enjoy.

@protocolsev

27 күн бұрын

@@christopherkozal7987 We will see how far forward it is if the powertrain even lasts 200k miles like it did on the prior generations. In my experience turbocharged motors do not typically last past 100-150k. The old trucks sold like hotcakes because they were reliable at a decent price. This is now neither.

@andrademeza

27 күн бұрын

Agreed. Been in love with toyota since my 92 pickup but no more. The 2022 tacoma is most likely my last tacoma.

I believe the main reason it’s not the engine or the made in Mexico badge. I believe It’s just people got tired of overpaying for shit and the broken dealer/customer relationship after the pandemic fiasco.

@dougwarren5471

28 күн бұрын

I agree! 4 cylinder turbos have been around a while. It's the cost period.

@ohscheisse2192

28 күн бұрын

People are sick of the greed, full stop. Every corporation in the country is making money hand over fist. It’s sickening.

@747-pilot

28 күн бұрын

It *_IS_* the fact that it's made in Mexico! I know at least 2 people who steered completely clear of this vehicle SOLELY because of where it's built! I'm not in the market, myself, for a pickup truck. But if I were, I would not buy this POS, even for one third the price! With the MAIN reason being, the location of manufacture! My first choice is, of course, Japanese-built models, but I'm typically fine if they're built in the US or Canada. And yes, the 4-banger is also a deal-breaker for me! That's exactly why at some point next year I will be looking for a *_USED_* 2021 or 2022 Highlander with the V6 engine, even though I was planning to buy a new one!

@Unimportantrichard

27 күн бұрын

Agreed. Toyota Tacoma have been made in Mexico for years, it didn’t just start. Grossly overpriced.

@UrbanOpsOffRoad

27 күн бұрын

@@747-pilot my bullet proof 05 2nd gen was built in Baja, Mexico. The quality standards are set by Toyota. The whole goal of that is to keep up with the competitive prices and demand. But seems like they forgot the market of their product and started focusing on popularity and fashion aspect.

Toyotas new slogan should be..."A fool and his money soon part".

I paid $43k for my new tundra limited in 2016. Since then they’ve made the trucks uglier and added small engines that aren’t going to hold up. Toyota is insane. I’ll keep my truck another 8 years.

@BartSparrow123

18 күн бұрын

My 2004 Tundra is going to last another 20 years!

50-60k for a truck made in Mexico, with a stressed out 4 banger that sounds like sawing machine. A redesign that looks like a Colorado/frontier mimicking a old Tacoma. Questionable front suspension. Barely better fuel economy compared to last gen? No thanks, I’m keeping my third gen that does everything I need already.

@5TORMADAMU5

26 күн бұрын

I agree! A made in Mexico Toyota? Good luck with that .. and it’s expensive ha ha ha and it’s a 4 cylinder ha ha !

@Pengowirr

26 күн бұрын

@@5TORMADAMU5 not even a quality issue. While not Japan or old USA level of quality. Mexico makes decently good quality products. But it’s insulting how little they’re paid down there, and we’re still over charged here. Where is the savings??

@albertoguadiana1792

26 күн бұрын

​@@5TORMADAMU5 tacomas have been made in Mexico for years now...

@BorderTurrets

25 күн бұрын

@@Pengowirr The savings are for the shareholders.

@Pengowirr

25 күн бұрын

@@albertoguadiana1792 Yeah, that’s beside the point. A made in Mexico taco is cheap to make. Yet they’re charging us way more.

Well said. It doesn't make sense that Toyota moved manufacturing to Mexico, where labor is a fraciton of the cost, and simulatenously increased prices by 25-30%. Greedflation at its finest. Decrease Cost + Increase Prices = Mo money in their pockets, but only if we bite the bait. Keep holding out folks, let them keep eating the cost of keeping these trucks clean out on the lots until they make a drastic change. The competitors are offering way too good of packages at $10k less. Colorado Trail Boss for $39k out the door, same for Frontier Pro 4x $40k.

@ruthnoya8424

28 күн бұрын

You gotta remember the dollar has lost a ton of value over the 4 years. So these companies have to raise prices because everything else (to make vehicles) takes more of these devalued dollars to purchase.

@Ttya-bm4gk

27 күн бұрын

Exactly there’s a ton of assumptions that Toyota corporation is being greedy . I’d love to hear from them about pricing ect and maybe they had many struggles and hurdles to overcome like everyone else during and after the pandemic . Also everyone Keeps throwing around the pros pricing. It’s got battery and electric motor and those seats im sure add a lot of cost . Everyone thinks Toyota would be making huge profit on these ? I’d like to hear or see them discuss profit margins . Probably isn’t as much as many think given the complications of today’s economy . I also feel like this new yota line up will sell fine after all the butthurt is done lol. Also I’m no mechanic but I feel hybrid assisted would help a 4 cylinder be less stressed . If I’m a betting man I’d say these hybrid 4s will last just as long as other yota engines. That’s coming from someone that drives a 4.0 that I think is one of the most simplistic and bullet proof engines yota makes .

@Ttya-bm4gk

27 күн бұрын

Also I’m talking about Toyota the corporation not dealerships and whatever shenanigans they pull

@Ttya-bm4gk

27 күн бұрын

I do think that the other mid size options from other manufacture are really stiff competition maybe even better than Toyotas offering buck for buck .

@lukask4498

27 күн бұрын

​@@Ttya-bm4gk well Toyota stock prices has rizen by 98% in last 5 years and 40% in last 12 months. So Toyota corporation is doing extremely well. They absolutely know what they are doing and that is making money. Us as consumers are paying the prices....that might be hopefully changing now.

Most rich people stay rich by spending like the poor and investing without stopping then most poor people stay poor by spending like the rich yet not investing like the rich but impressing them

@AlexanderHernandezhj

27 күн бұрын

Exactly! My grandparents were so frugal but they had a TON of money on both sides. I remember my grandfather telling me "you want to make money while you sleep." And I guess that attitude passed down to my dad (RIP), because I remember going to his house one day and I had bought something I really liked, so I wanted to show it to him. So I said "Look at this! Isn't it cute? It was on sale...I saved 50%!" My dad replied "Well, if you're spending, you're not saving." Obviously I had no retort, and that has always stuck with me.

@DaniCharney

27 күн бұрын

Saving and investing wisely while prioritizing necessities and a few small luxuries in relation to one's total assets is a great approach. It helps ensure financial stability and I my for the enjoyment of life's little pleasures without compromising long-term financial goals. It's all about finding a balance that works for you!

@BillySampson681

27 күн бұрын

very true, a huge part of my portfolio growth has come during this bear market. I've been able to scale from $180K to $572K in a short period of time.

@CarlosGarcia56590

27 күн бұрын

How do you do that? I'm interested

@BillySampson681

27 күн бұрын

Thanks to my co-worker (Alex) who suggested Ms Angela Christine Derle.

I totally agree with your point, I’m not a Toyota guy but 6 cylinder engine with out turbo is the best engine.

@johnb4183

27 күн бұрын

And last the longest.........

@StarInfinite00

27 күн бұрын

Let's not forget the V6 had issues when it first came out as well. Are you stupid 😂😂😂?

@plmn93

24 күн бұрын

Last gen's V6 was a dog. Worst in class by a mile.

@carlverner7223

21 күн бұрын

Um…the 3.5 was awful. Good riddance

@AlexKosanovich

13 күн бұрын

@@carlverner7223 Years ago I had a1986 22R Toyota Pickup that Was Kinda Doggy But went 300,000 miles no problems Until they put a Turbo on that Engine ! Total Flop Nothing But Problems with the redesign ! History is repeating itself ! Experience is PRICELESS !

I believe Akio Toyoda, who is the Grandson of Toyota’s founder, stepping down has brought us to this point. He did not like the “Suits,” he rather be with the men in the plant. He said that every day for the last 13 years was a “Battle.” Look at what we have now. This truck is a cheap knockoff wearing a Tacoma badge. Glad I bought my ‘23 Off Road LB.

That summed it up. A 4 cylinder 50k truck is not desired or affordable to the masses. Also adorable family!

Remember when everything was $29k and then up from there? Now the minimum is $44k. Gross

@joseperezpaz9986

24 күн бұрын

35k is cheapest 24 Tacoma

I have been a Toyota fanboy for sometime but clearly nowadays they are going in the wrong direction. The Nissan Frontier is a hidden gem with that 3.8 litre V6 engine.

@shawnn6926

27 күн бұрын

When the time comes that I need to replace my Tacoma, I'll look at the frontier or GMC Canyon

@charlesjackson1700

27 күн бұрын

Stay away from the Nissan Frontier.. It is poorly made garbage with a weak suspension.. Nissan even stated it was not competitive with the others in its class.. It is cheaper... And it shows!

@davidrutledge1482

25 күн бұрын

I've been thinking the same after a guy at work got the off road Frontier

@PWCDN

23 күн бұрын

I was about to buy my first Toyota as a long time Honda fanboy. I'll just wait until Honda catches up at this point. They're building a 2 billion dollar battery plant in Canada, just a matter of time. I'll keep driving my 2013 accord for another 5 years and see what happens. Toyota has lost out on my money. All their vehicles are either expensive or long wait times. I'm not pre-paying at MSRP for a car then wait a year or two for delivery, thats absurd. New car buyers are morons with too much money.

I don’t mean to be weird because it is the Internet and it gets weird here. I don’t know you, but that is a beautiful family and I’m proud of you. You’re doing all the right things man keep it up.

75% of those trucks don't even have skid plates 😭

@danielsnook5029

27 күн бұрын

They're going 'commando.' 😂

4cylinder turbo engines will hurt the sales of Tacoma and 4Runner vehicles.I’ve never seen that many V6 Tacomas on any before. I think that we will probably see just as many 4Runners sitting around.

It’s just too damn much. I live in FL and they don’t sell, I made an inquiry and they beg me to come in and test drive one.

@Bonsai-Miata2020

28 күн бұрын

My local here in Florida is still keeping a tiny inventory and playing the market adjustment game. What is funny is there are plenty of people that over pay for them because they have to finance.

@Dark_Templar28

27 күн бұрын

@@Bonsai-Miata2020 which dealer is that so we know and they’re exposed.

@cmiles97x38

26 күн бұрын

Check the small print in the pricing online. All of them are charging an over $1,000 fee and most are adding in $3,000 to $4,000 "club" benefits like nitrogen in the tires and security etching. Pure robbery. Example: *Price is plus tax, tag, title, registration, any dealer-installed accessories, and a pre-delivery service fee of $1198, Private Tag Agency Fee of $189, and Electronic Registration Filing Fee of $559.55, which charges represent costs and profits to the dealer for items such as inspecting, cleaning, and adjusting vehicles and preparing documents related to the sale. New vehicle pricing excludes the $2995.00 Toyota of Tampa Bay Advantage. Pre Owned vehicle pricing excludes $2995 Toyota of Tampa Bay Advantage. All prices, specifications, and availability subject to change without notice. All advertised pricing is on in-stock units only and is inclusive of all applicable manufacturer incentives and may not be combined with other exclusive offers. Certain offers and incentives presume financing through the Manufacturer Captive Lender, subject to approved credit. Should you purchase the vehicle through the use of other funds, or through other lending sources, certain offers and incentives may be excluded. Due to supply chain challenges and limited inventory, vehicles may be subject to an additional market adjustment depending on inventory production, availability, and market conditions. See dealer for complete details. While every reasonable effort is made to ensure the accuracy of this information, we are not responsible for any errors or omissions contained on these pages. Please verify any information in question with Toyota of Tampa Bay.

@kennychao4143

25 күн бұрын

Ask them for a gift card for lunch. Lol

@PWCDN

23 күн бұрын

tell them gimme OTD offer, I won't even indulge going in for a test drive. If they don't enjoy the Tacoma's rotting in the lot. Hope the sun is not too strong.

30% Mexico tax for the quality increase on your new 4 banger!

@Malte-Micha

27 күн бұрын

Every manufacturer is going to 4 bangers now, V6 V8 are a thing of the past. High fuel prices at 6$ a gallon (CA) is not helping either.

The new Tacoma didn’t fix the small rear seat area. It gets just a little bit better mpg, but has a smaller gas tank. Then the ridiculous high price….

They have priced their core customers right out of the market.

@tommcdonough6086

26 күн бұрын

They have turned their backs on all of us that made the Tacoma successful in the first place, the average person. Unless you have a healthy trade in or a very large cash deposit forget about it. People will put themselves in the poor house over this NEW Tacoma. Nobody truly knows how long it will hold up against the tried and true setups of past Tacoma generations. Time will tell. Keeping my paid off 22 Tacoma with 10125 miles for a long time. Feel Toyota dropped the ball . Peace........

@BartSparrow123

18 күн бұрын

@@tommcdonough6086 Unfortunately it means the price of used older Tacomas could double in the next few years. :(

You’re not alone. I agree 100%. I REFUSE to buy a turbo v6 or 4 cyl truck. Not gonna happen

Scrrw Toyota, the entire reason people tolerated outdated interiors and horrible fuel economy was the second to none longevity. The ability to buy a car and know it’s actually an assist that will last you 10+ years. Toyota offered the working class people a way to get head of finances with iconic longevity. They have completely changed their approach. The Toyota simps will spam comment sections saying “Toyota has made turbos for decades”. While completely ignoring the debacle that is the new tundra. They also completely ignore the obvious cost cutting on the gen 4 tacoma. flimsy and razor thin skid plate, more plastic than Barbie under the hood, the spare tire is from walmart, and you have to pay substantially more for the drop off in quality. I dont want to hear about the epa, every oem is dealing either them…and yet… Nissan has a v6 in their brand new truck. That turbo sucks, the cost to maintain will be ridiculous and leave owners with massive headaches.

@BorderTurrets

25 күн бұрын

Strange how the car lobby never seems to pour dollars for deregulation of the EPA. Its always "make laws that screw over the consumer please".

While price is definitely a huge reason for not moving let’s not forget that NOBODY wants a 4cyl turbo in a pickup truck.

@R_Tap

26 күн бұрын

Not true. The chevy 4 cylinder sell better than any of their trucks

@johngreen2510

26 күн бұрын

@@R_Tap 4 cylinder trucks are a joke

@ejhayes76

26 күн бұрын

Not true. GMC, Chevy and Ford have turbo 4's that have plenty of power. I'm one of the people who prefer turbos over N/A engines due to their better performance at elevation. I've had a couple Subarus and a Ford with factory turbos. No issues. People who think turbo engines are less reliable are stuck in the '90s with the old bolt-on turbos.

@BartSparrow123

18 күн бұрын

@@ejhayes76 Turbo engines are less reliable, it's simple physics and thermodynamics problems. You can't make a smaller engine produce more power without losing reliability. Higher compression, higher cylinder and exhaust pressure, higher heat, more potential oil or coolant leak issues, etc.

@joeshoe6184

6 күн бұрын

Gas mileage is of paramount importance to me. I average over 30K a year and your talking a difference of thousands with a 5 mpg difference. I have better uses for that money than dumping it into a powerplant that's more than I need.

I bought a Tundra CM Limited 4x4 with the Premium package in 2021 for $51k. Three years later, I cannot buy a mid-level Tacoma for that money. It is crazy!

I'd maybe pay that price if they were made in Japan, but made in Mexico! They should of passed there production savings to the consumer!

@J.Young808

28 күн бұрын

From all I have heard so far the 4Runner and Land Cruiser will be built in Japan.

@michaelm-alpha6406

28 күн бұрын

@J.Young808 I wanted to upgrade my 2016 tacoma for the 4th gen Pro but not after seeing that 65k MSRP...for that price I rather switch to a saden and buy the IS500. It's built in Japan and has the last of the tried and true V8's

@kurtbeck5809

28 күн бұрын

Good idea I still have my 2004 Tacoma 4x4 reg cab auto and got the IS500 since this truck still does all I need ​@michaelm-alpha6406

@hpickettz34

28 күн бұрын

It wasn't actually made in Mexico, majority of the parts are made in Japan, but the truck is assembled in Mexico, huge difference.

@commonsenseisntcommon1776

27 күн бұрын

Fk Mexico

I think nowadays everything is expensive not just Toyota.

@rlores11

27 күн бұрын

💯

@toxic1698

27 күн бұрын

True but I'm not going to pay $50,000 for a truck that's going to frag itself by Summer

@BorderTurrets

25 күн бұрын

Mazda, Subaru ? The value you get from both is way better than a Toyota. The only thing toyota has is their hybrid systems for fuel economy, cvt, and truck availability. And even then the fuel savings assumes optimal driving conditions to achieve that efficiency. But Id argue the newer Mazda/Subaru competitors are just as good now. If you don't want a CVT and want a pseudo-luxurious ride go Mazda. If you want the best AWD system, decent ride quality, and a cheap to maintain car go Subaru People just need to do basic research.

@PWCDN

23 күн бұрын

feel free to part with your money then

@hlubkuv7

23 күн бұрын

@@PWCDN I guess, will have to, it ain't gotta go back to the old price. Gas will never be $0.89 per gallon like before.

corporate greed on all oems

@Andrew-hi2rj

27 күн бұрын

Nope can get a 48k ZR2 that is just as good off road as the 65k turd pro

@technom3598

23 күн бұрын

No. Its inflation. Blame your government

@stryker120ski4

23 күн бұрын

@@technom3598 right inflation, corporate greed, the same trucks 4 years ago were on average 30-40% less than current prices if i remember correctly a ram larmie was 40-50 know its about 70-90, is there 40-50% more truck,

@technom3598

23 күн бұрын

@@stryker120ski4 ram just lowered their MSRP 10k. Plus now you get a rebate. So you can get almost 20k off a new ram. So that 70 is about 50 again.

My friend does F&I for a group dealer in the Midwest in proximity to Chicago. They cannot sell Tacoma’s. No one has appetite for 60k tacomas. Insurance is the same as a full size truck, pricing is the same as what a full sized truck was just a few years ago. There’s a whole lot of Toyota 4x4’s that they simply cannot sell to anyone. No one is in the 75k Toyota 4x4 market folks.

I see a sea of white, black, grey… Blah!!!! Give us some colors, Toyota!!!!

@timalan7406

27 күн бұрын

I seen a bronze oxide offload at the dealership this weekend. It’s a good looking color.

@blackwatch7151

27 күн бұрын

They have terrible colour choices compared to Ford. Very boring

@vincents5042

27 күн бұрын

More colors, sure that will be 10k more please

@troypollonais9143

27 күн бұрын

Thats because they charge way more for the other colors

@PWCDN

23 күн бұрын

just pay for an aftermarket wrap with every color under the rainbow, even protects the paint. Why pay more for less for "factory". Customers aren't very aware of their options these days, probably why a Tacoma is 50k MSRP

Make Toyota great Again! Bring back NA engines and normal prices

@corbindallasmultipass

27 күн бұрын

Blame the tree huggers for this one.

@charlesjackson1700

27 күн бұрын

​@@corbindallasmultipass.. Exactly... Demanding higher CAFE restrictions.. THEY WILL NOT BE SATISFIED UNTIL THEY ARE ALL EV/BATTERY PLUG-INS WHICH IS NOTHING BUT PURE GARBAGE..

@BorderTurrets

25 күн бұрын

@@corbindallasmultipass Tree huggers? Why arent the manufacturers filing lawsuits or lobbying congress to end the EPA nonsense? They seem to only be focused on blocking FTC rules that stop their scummy sales tactics.

Whenever you tell the truth about Toyota, the fanboys will attack like crazy. I am on some Tundra pages and anytime anyone says they have an issue, the person reporting the problem is always the problem and never the truck. You are correct about the profits too. You said the Tundra has come down in discounts 8-10K. When they come down that much again, they will be priced fairly. Until then, no one should buy one. I have a 21 Taco and I guess in 1-2 years, I should be able to get rid of it for 80-100K thanks to this new disaster. ;-) That should drive the fanboys wild. You do a great service on these videos. You earned my Thumbs UP and I hope you keep putting these out. Your kids are cute as can be. Enjoy them as they will soon be teenagers.

I saw a 2024 Tacoma 4x4 limited with a sticker of $56k. I bought a new 2017 Tacoma Limited 4x4 for $36k. That is why no one is buying them.

@charlesjackson1700

27 күн бұрын

I have a friend that had a 2020 Tacoma limited. He traded it for a 2023 Tundra Platinum I force Max. 2 months ago he bought a new silver Tacoma limited.. the price was 58,000. He has both trucks.

@adamsrosales6519

27 күн бұрын

36k in 2017 is 45.7k today with inflation alone.

@patrickmurphy9470

24 күн бұрын

A better buy. That V6 in your 2017 is bulletproof. That turbo 4 won’t last like the V6.

@umoramayori

19 күн бұрын

56,000 today is relatively less than 36,000 in 2017.

@mailborder

19 күн бұрын

@@umoramayori on what planet?

Crazy, I was the one driving the Solar orange Sport coming back from a test drive at Stapp. 😊

@J.Young808

28 күн бұрын

Are you/did you going to/get that Solar Octane?

@itsallminor6133

28 күн бұрын

Nice truck

Even at 30k, I wouldn't want one. It sucks. Keeping my 3rd gen pro forever.

@tommyh.8391

27 күн бұрын

What color have you picked out?

@Shadowdancer777

27 күн бұрын

@@tommyh.8391 mine is black.

@AlexKosanovich

13 күн бұрын

Don't EVER Sell it !

Thanks for the video. What a wonderful family you have! Here in Oregon the Toyota dealerships have tons still on the sales floor waiting to be "fought" over....I don't think that will happen any time soon at 50K-60K.

Im in Delaware, & I still see people driving their older Tacomas & 4runners. No one wants a new Tacoma for the current pricing set up.

Toyota needs to take note of this.

@tomphillips2608

27 күн бұрын

If Akio hadn't stepped down as the head of Toyota, you probably would have seen a strategic pivot in price . Probably a push on his part to return to what his customers really want in a Tacoma. My 2nd generation 2011 4.0 hums like a sewing machine and after 160k miles is tight and as quiet as a new truck. Love it.

The 2024 Ranger is 45k. The high interest rates are killing the fullsize and midsize truck segment. On the other hand, the 30k Maverick is selling very well. It's tragic that the Ranger Raptor is 60k. This is totally ridiculous. I am sick of the delivery fee being added on. The govt should not allow a delivery fee, which has crept up every year. It should included in the MSRP. It's a dishonest practice that must be stamped out. Even Tesla does it.

@davidrutledge1482

25 күн бұрын

When you negotiate, everything is on the table. I refuse all of their bs fees and add ons.... warranties, maintainence, etc

I would rather have an na engine with hybrid setup than turbo gas 4 banger. We picked up a new 4Runner last December based on the years of speculation on the upcoming change and no regrets. Some people value the old school attributes of Toyota 4wd’s, mainly durability, reliability, non gimmicky quality.

There’s absolutely no way I’ll ever buy a 4 cylinder Tacoma.

@tedbell4416

28 күн бұрын

Yeah they used to be the cheapest ones I'm done with them

@J.Young808

28 күн бұрын

I wanted a 2024 SR 4-cylinder 4x4 Access Cab but only had a choice between TRD OR & TRD Sport Access Cabs. I went with the Off Road as it was less optioned back in January of 2024

@driftx2

27 күн бұрын

Yea less power

@tommyh.8391

27 күн бұрын

Have you picked out a color?

@BorderTurrets

25 күн бұрын

But it looks cool!

Untamed, I think you should expand beyond Toyota too. I mean Toyota isn’t in this boat alone. Chevy, Ford namely, and Ram are all in this together with the 4-cylinder. Appreciate the content. It’s wild how quality is different between the new Tacoma and 4Runner. The new 4Runner seems to use less plastic and better quality materials compared to the Tacoma. Any thoughts, maybe a video, on whether, in theory, if you’d like to see all Toyotas made in Japan vs places like America or Mexico? It’s not gonna happen ofc realistically, but any thoughts on that?

Bro, what a family to be jealous of! Congrats on the cool kids and wife.

@commonsenseisntcommon1776

27 күн бұрын

Agree…… nice family

My son picked out a fully tricked out TRD Pro sport Tacoma in the exact color you just showed. Drove about 20 mi up into the high desert and got it for $40,000 out the door. I congratulated him on paying more for his truck than I did for my first home lol. He wanted the truck and he saved up for a number of years, put 50% down, and is paying it off early. He is forever grateful that he did not wait for the 2024.

The main reason is the price.

@Transit_my-way

26 күн бұрын

Yep. It being turbo charged isn't a big deal to me and to many I believe.

@PWCDN

23 күн бұрын

@@Transit_my-way turbo charge is fine when paired with an electric motor.

Nice trucks at luxury prices, just way too much money, simply unaffordable. A base SR near $40k? Just walk away.

@Savvynomad225

28 күн бұрын

If you follow the budget rules that keep you from going over your head with a car payment, you need to make 160k to afford that

Toyota can no longer offer the Tacoma V6 due to increasingly stringent EPA regulations and the carbon credits they have to purchase from Tesla. Tesla made 1.8 billion on sales of carbon credits in 2023.

@joefurrer5428

27 күн бұрын

The carbon credit is the biggest scam out of the US stick a name on it and steal your money😅

Went to my dealership in Redlands Ca. Yesterday and there was I believe around eight Tacoma’s sitting there… thanks UT have a great day!!!

So glad I bought my new 2022 SR Access Cab 2.7L when I did. Got it for $29,000 MSRP and then the dealer found me a $500 rebate. I wanted it for durability and longevity and didn't need or want a V6 or four wheel drive. I do not want a turbo or that damn GDI stupidity.

@Ottomypall

26 күн бұрын

Bravo as said in the dueling circle.

@Ottomypall

26 күн бұрын

I did exactly the same purchase you did. Keeping it simple. Your not entering the Indi 500 with a Tacoma. Again Bravo on your purchase.

@chrislj2890

26 күн бұрын

@@Ottomypall Thanks, the same to you.

Omg, your family looks great, nice family. Good papá

Don't let people fool you, I live in southern California (Orange County) and I don't think they are selling like hotcakes here either. My local dealer has 15 on the lot today and they are a small dealer compared to the other 10 dealerships within a 25 mile radius of my home. They are advertising $2K off the SR5's but guessing you could do better if you shop around. Almost everything not selling is the SR5 and TRD Sport. I don't know how they are going to sell the higher trims in the 60k's. I'm in the market for a midsized truck myself and wanted a Tacoma but for the same price (Mid to high 40's) I can get a fully loaded Canyon AT4 or Colorado ZR2. I think these Tacoma's are over priced by 10-15% and that's going to push business to both the Canyon/Colorado and Ranger.

@MG-vb6ny

27 күн бұрын

I was in the same boat. Went with the AT4. No regrets.

Great Honest review.

These videos are great, keep it up. 👍

Where I used to live one of the dealers kept only a few cars on his lot. “Oh the demand is high on these, we can barely keep them on the lot.” 🤷🏻‍♂️ BUT a few miles away they had more sitting on a lot. When one was sold on the dealer lot, they brought in another one from the other lot. If you wanted a specific vehicle, they checked “other lots” and just checked their backup lot. Once the internet, and online shopping became more common it was harder for them to do this. 😂

They’re just too expensive and interest is too high. No cares they were built in Mexico or that they don’t have a V6. $55k at 8.2% is just an absurdly bad financial decision.

@rvh77

28 күн бұрын

Don't know too many "truck guys" who want to pay that for a 4 cyl.

@Pengowirr

28 күн бұрын

Exactly, 55K is more than 3rd gen’s Pros sold for. Is ridiculous for them to expect that kind of money for a 4 cylinder.

@Albert-777

27 күн бұрын

@@user-mf6kz3ld5rso true

@ThePanshow10

27 күн бұрын

The 4 cylinder is faster and stronger than the previous gen with the v6. A lot of.people are just ignorant and just follow what they hear. If you wanted a "stronger" work truck you would go for a v8 engine but even those trucks are now extinct atleast brand new.

@rickytecon5726

27 күн бұрын

@@ThePanshow10 it won't hold up over time.

Excellent video, first off everyone looks happy and healthy not an easy feat to pull off in these times… Second it’s good you’re getting out there and showing the casual viewer what’s the realities of the truck world are… Well done see you in the next one…

Great family untamed and a good video thanks

Thats insane. No one should be paying 40 to 45k for an SR

I MIGHT pay 40k for a Limited 4x4 Tacoma but not a penny more.

Spot on! Keep the videos coming!

This truck will still outsell the competition as before. I willing to bet that the other two trucks are not selling either. It's called the economy.

When are we going to learn that all of these trucks are SR5’s… there are no distinguishing differences between the trims, there’s no standard equipment, what they’ve done is made everything SR5 so you have to buy several multi thousand dollar packages to get basic features that should come as standard, and there’s overlap on everything so you’re paying double and triple for basic features. It’s part of the scam they’re running. How do I know it’s a scam, because early MSRP’s had these same trucks at 55-56k, how does the sticker change?

Once people stop thinking “Can I afford that monthly payment” and start questioning the total amount financed and whether the buld quality is worth it, this insanity will continue. Its that short sightedness that these auto manufacturers and the demographic they're preying upon . . .

@PWCDN

23 күн бұрын

yo I wrote the exact same comment in another video about unaffordable cars. you've hit the nail on the head. That's one thing the baby boomers got right, buy what you can afford in cash. Taking on debt for a car is nuts.

I paid $35k for my TRD off-road Tacoma (access cab) in 2016. If you put that into an inflation calculator, it equals about $45k in today’s dollars. It did not have blind spot monitoring, lane departure assist, or adaptive cruise control. So considering the additional technology, and inflation, they're not that far off from what they used to be. my two cents

Mr. Untamed , I’ve been watching your videos for quite some time now and I respect what you bring to the table. Back in 2021 I bought a 2021 Tundra trd sport 4x4 for 49k. Same truck now is around 65k. In 2023 I bought a 2023 Tundra Trd off road and let me tell you, I miss it i wish I never would have sold it. The current Tundra is a good truck but you can tell fit and finish just isn’t there anymore. Toyota has definitely come down in quality but in return have hiked up their prices. I’ve been a loyal customer owning several models through out the years and they have been great vehicles. Time will tell how long these turbos will last in the current Toyota models. Keep doing what you’re doing you have my support always! By the way I love your current Trd Pro Tundra.

A quick check in Central Ohio, one dealer has 18 available 49 total. A second dealership has 29 available. These two dealerships generally carry about 8 to 10 Tacoma in inventory.

I'm not sure that people don't want them, I am pretty sure many just cannot afford them at current prices, interest rates, and inflation with everything else. The show hasn't started yet, when they drop these prices the people that paid marrket adjustments and other shenanigans will not be able to trade. You are correct about Florida. Beautiful family great video. I also, contrary to you and many of the viewers think that the prices, interest rate, and general economy are more contributing to poor sales than the v6, turbos etc. Just my 2 cents.

@joearnold1843

27 күн бұрын

Yes.

Thank you for your time. Can you get a hold of the new LC.... I would like your review on the lineup.

This is great news for consumers! hold fast until prices drop at least 40%.

I got my 2019 TACO (Made in SA, TX.) with manual transmission. I consider this priceless. Will not trade for any of these new trucks even if it was a TRD PRO.

They need to make more off-road priced around $45-46000They are the only one that are really selling around me. $46000 sr5 and $50000+ 0ffroad/sports are not selling really well.

I appreciate your videos bro.

I left the Toyota train, Back in a jeep Rubicon Launch editions gladiator. Loving it And loving being able to tow Over 7400lbs!

22 Tacoma TRD Pro here still great!

@georgedreher2322

27 күн бұрын

22 Tacoma TRD Off Road with manual trans, LED lights, power driver seat, + other extras. Paid $38,500 + tax/tag. No dealer mark-up. Love the truck.

Also, it would be kind of funny if Toyota loses the best selling midsize truck spot to chevy or another brand because they made the Tacoma too expensive, but we have to wait for Tacoma to get more widely available in the hybrid to come out before getting actual sales numbers to compare

@frasiec

27 күн бұрын

That zr2 has a lot of neat features

RIGHT ON!!! Keep up the pressure. Eyes are on you and we support you! We didn’t ask for all this “engine tech”. That only gets you a couple MPGs but adds so much more complexity that’s going to cost us so much when it breaks. Then they outprice us to make up for the cheaper offerings abroad

Good video with Kevin from Ken Garff by the way. That’s my wife’s coworkers husband it was a surprise to see him on the channel with you sitting down! Good info and great insights.

I’m from Washington state and a few places I’ve seen have a bunch in stock and not selling. I call bullshit on these people

You are correct sir!

I was in the market for a new mid sized truck recently and have been a "toyota guy" in the past. Still have the 2019 TRD which was the last mid sized I bought, but it is being repurposed and I needed something else as the new "daily". After looking at all the options and pricing I concluded that the GMC Canyon AT4X was the best value for the options I was looking for. Loving it so far.

Imagine? In Canada add about 12% to the American price.

@goliat2755

28 күн бұрын

Trim to trim they are cheaper in Canada

@DaveInCanada081

28 күн бұрын

@goliat2755 I'll have to take a look. Thanks for the info.

@gunsmokezz

27 күн бұрын

@@goliat2755nope

@nastyned4542

27 күн бұрын

@@goliat2755they are not the same. Canadian market has significantly less models/trim to choose from. But comparing the TRD off road models. USA California they start at 41k. Canada they start at 51k. Very limited options available in Canada where’s in the USA they have like 20 different upgrades options. Available Accessories are basically the same in both countries. In the USA they don’t pay the 7k extra in taxes we have to pay in Canada.

@jasonknight5863

27 күн бұрын

Canadá prices are like Mexican pesos where the 4 cylinder Tacoma is poorly built. Can’t compare it to American 🇺🇸 dollars. 💵

What the hell did I jump into to? I bought a 2019 (redesigned Ram 1500 Laramie) for 43K. Then traded that in for a Honda passport elite (2020 model in 2021) for 42K. DId the price jump this much in a short amount of time? Jeez. Never selling. Ill keep my 2020 forester sport (32k) and passport until the wheels fall off. Tried looking out there, but man I can't with these prices.

Well he is right about a couple things. It ain't cheap, it is a 4 cylinder (turbo), and it is assembled in Mexico. I'm not happy about any of that, but I did get one (sport 4x4), and it is fantastic. Nicely built. So far looks like it is up to Toyota standards. More space, More horsepower, & More torque than my last Tacoma. Feels great driving. I'm happy with it.

My mindset remains at prepandemic levels yet my grocery bills reflect on a near 100% increase. You add the new reality of costs with the higher interest rates then you end up with a whole lot of unsold inventory. I’m in sticker shock.

TFL ruined Tacoma sales

@Jay-bw3fl

28 күн бұрын

Toyota ruined Tacoma sales

@lgbnz

28 күн бұрын

I was hyped to buy a trailhunter, even for up to $65k. after TFL video blowing the tacoma front diff - no chance. ordered a '24 ZR2 instead for 52k

Lots of hype of how they’re overpriced and in stock but I doubt the prices will really drop meaningfully. I hope I’m wrong.

I am with you and have the same opinion of the new Tacoma. It is for that reason I bought a 2024 Nissan Frontier with the V6 engine that is normally aspirated. I am not looking for anything with a turbo, torque, AFM, DFM equipped, or insane horsepower. All I wanted was a dependable reliable truck, and I hope I got that with the Frontier. I traded down from a 2015 GMC Sierra Crew Cab Z71 with the 5.3 litre engine. I had 74,400 miles on the truck when the lifter collapsed and push rod bent. I was lucky. I got away with getting mine fixed for $3100. That was better than most. Thanks for the information video! Have a great day!

These videos are therapeutic for me lol. By the way I just put $10,000 towards my principle payment on my 4Runner! Hopefully paying it off by the end of this year!

2024 TRD PreRunners are impossible to find. Not everyone wants 4 doors and a short bed.

@J.Young808

28 күн бұрын

The whole reason I bought a 2023 ACLB TRD OR in Jan 2024. I don’t need the back seat and I like the 6’ bed.

@J.Young808

28 күн бұрын

Also I wanted the clamshell doors. (For some reason YT is not showing my other comment)

@W0RLDSSMALLESTVI0LIN

28 күн бұрын

They just started production of those that's why

@jmpattillo

27 күн бұрын

They should start showing up soon. They haven’t been running the Xtracab production for very long.

The price is whats is killing Toyota. I have known many people who said they would buy a Toyota if they weren't so expensive. Now Toyota is even pricing its core buyers out of their products. To be fair, Toyota pickups have had 4 cylinders since they were introduced.

@mikefoehr235

27 күн бұрын

But not turbocharged

@gillysguns9244

27 күн бұрын

@@mikefoehr235 actually they did turbo one in the mid 80s. Hopefully this one works out better that that one did.

You are absolutely correct about everything you said, Toyota needs to keep it simple.👍

Just bought a 24 Off-road for 45,040 including destination. Wish it had been cheaper, but, wow, what an absolutely incredible machine. I couldn't be happier with it. It's light years ahead of my last 2 Toyotas (2000 Tundra, 2012 4Runner). Fantastic job, Toyota.

Rent too damn high