Noam Chomsky: Ukraine and Beyond
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“Meanwhile, by extending the conflict instead of seeking to end it, we impose severe costs on Ukrainians, drive millions of people to death by starvation, hurtle the burning planet even more rapidly to the sixth mass extinction, and - if we are lucky - escape terminal war.”
In this presentation, Noam Chomsky will touch on the roots of the Ukraine war and potential paths to a sane resolution through an all-out effort of diplomacy and statecraft. He will examine the disastrous strategy the U.S. is presently pursuing in Ukraine and the implications of Finland and Sweden joining NATO. But he will expand the scope of his analysis by looking at the frightening impacts that the decisions of “world leaders” toward this “criminal Russian invasion” are having far beyond Ukraine. For instance, he sees the perpetuation of the war as basically a program of mass murder through starvation throughout much of the Global South.
But a major focus of this presentation will be the impact of the Ukraine war and the way the world has responded to it on the prospects of the greatest crisis humanity has ever faced: the prospects for human survival itself. He will examine the specific ways in which the decision of U.S. leaders to exploit the invasion to `harm Russia’ and possible Russian responses are increasing the likelihood of terminal nuclear war as well as hastening our demise through global warming if we should somehow dodge that nuclear bullet.
The presentation raises a fundamental question: whether the gap between our technical capacity to destroy and the human moral capacity to control that technical capacity can be bridged. Always the optimist about human capabilities when confronted with injustice, gruesome wars or now, with extinction itself, Noam will remind viewers that - as the history of social movements has shown - “it is within our power to bring about the answer that we all hope for, but there is no time to waste”.
Sponsored by Massachusetts Peace Action
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My biggest achievement in life is sending Naom Chomsky an email and getting his reply. Best day of my life
@luperamos7307
2 жыл бұрын
What email did you use if you don't mind me asking?
@lada9840
Жыл бұрын
You are totally infatuated by a liar, a highly paid useful idiot at the service of terrorist rashsha.
@Jorderby
Жыл бұрын
Haha yeah go on mate give out Chomsky's email address out to a stranger on KZread
@thegreatujo
Жыл бұрын
He responds to basically everybody as long as you are coherent and decent.
@mikerocketmusic
Жыл бұрын
@@thegreatujo This year he has been responding to students from the school that I teach at.
Thank you Professor Chomsky for your generosity. 🙏
Master Noam Chomsky, please do not, I repeat: please do not leave this planet anytime soon. Please. The world needs to hear your perspective.
@davidalvarez7262
2 жыл бұрын
If only his body could come to that agreement.
@justgivemethetruth
2 жыл бұрын
Like it's up to him.
@charlottemarceau8062
2 жыл бұрын
I think that's a pretty big ask at this stage..
@lada9840
Жыл бұрын
The faster he leaves, the better it will be for this world. He has done more than enough harm to this planet.
@davidalvarez7262
Жыл бұрын
@@lada9840 How so?
Young people around the world, hope you’re sharing this and spreading the word 👍👍👍⭐️⭐️⭐️❤️❤️❤️
5:30 No fly zone 15:50 Blocked Ukrainian Ports 29:00 What is the reason for Russia's invasion of Ukraine? And was there any way to prevent it? 31:30 The US not living up to it's promise made to Russia 36:15 Is the Russia-Ukraine war a proxy war between Russia and the US?
How can someone his age be so sharp …I love Chomsky. When a society does not respect its wise old dissenting voices, it’s a sign of serious moral decline. US is a democracy and it will be much stronger if it listens and respect open debates, but it’s been thrown away! It’s tragic.
@stevenzuniga4410
2 жыл бұрын
All those books keeps him sharp
@mziasoziashvili8156
2 жыл бұрын
The problem is, listening to Chomsky is, and I'm going to be direct here, quite hard... :/ It's not the issue that came on the surface as a result of him getting older. It was always there. I love Chomsky's knowledge and the ability to reason but he is not a good orator, sadly. He talks slowly and his voice is such that (along with not doing a great job in ARTICULATING words), especially as a foreigner, you ears and the level of concentration always need to be on edge to understand everything he's saying.
@rp3875
2 жыл бұрын
@@mziasoziashvili8156 I do agree with you on that. Because he knows so much, he is trying to communicate a lot and hence it does take some effort. But he was crisper in his younger days. And you know what our society has dumbed down to value ‘short, crisp, marketing, PR polished speak’. I understand that as I have been a corporate executive for a long time. But that means we are only listening to shallow, but very beautifully crafted stuff (of course, I am generalizing)
@rockshox08
2 жыл бұрын
No debates no contrary opinion I think we call this totalitarian
@mahlina1220
2 жыл бұрын
I love Chomsky too. We are blessed to have elder kind souls as him. On the flip side, we also still have the elder warmongering hawks who only care about their wealth that they are WILLING to take down the fate of our planet with them as they too are closer towards the age of approaching death. It’s thanks to Noam’s lack of egotism that made life worth living for the most of us, knowing there are kind intelligent people out there. It’s unfortunate the human race tends to be swindled by the opposite.
Beautiful thank you
Just WOW !!! Thank you so much for this delicious food for my brain !!!
Elizaveta Thank You For Interviewing Chomsky-New Subscriber 👍🏽
Good to know
I understand and will remember..
Outstanding sir, top shelf dear brother. Without truth there is no consciencness
"There is no dispute or unresolved question that cannot be settled peacefully by mutual agreement of the interested countries" - words from Georgy Malenkov (the immediate successor of Stalin who died March 5, 1953) in his and Soviets' efforts towards peace and ending the Cold War on March 15, 1953. Washington simply decided to dismiss the Soviet peace initiative and continue the costly Cold War. Washington attitude toward diplomacy has changed little in 70 years.
@philippeyared2050
2 жыл бұрын
You are hilarious
@ReturnOfTheJ.D.
2 жыл бұрын
No power that has had an Isolationist approach to its standing in the world, like Japan, is ever a power that can be negotiated with. They don't believe in it - that's why they isolated themselves from the rest of the world for so long. Pre-WWII, the USA was an isolationist nation by philosophy. Most citizens didn't travel outside their own borders, many wouldn't even leave their own state for their whole lives.
@coreycox2345
2 жыл бұрын
@@philippeyared2050 Hilarious, and more.
@JD-wu9li
Жыл бұрын
you commies never change do you?
@soviet9366
Жыл бұрын
You know Stalin would say the same kind of thing before doing evil shit anyway.
I do fallow Chomsky in years, jealous you had a chance to speak with him, for many he's sure quite eyes opening, but try to catch Jeffrey Sachs to that topic. Cheers.
Stay well Mr. Chomsky. I am concerned about his health and aging but he sounds alright.
Good interview. BTW, I dig the new Grizzly Adams look.
One of the best Chomsky interviews out there. Extremely insightful and packs a lot of information into this 1:30 hour segment.
A celebration beyond words is waiting for all of us the when.... that day will be so wonderful.... I can't wait !!
If possible, I hope Professor Chomsky has an opportunity to visit Ukraine and speak with Ukrainians.
@dragonade85
Жыл бұрын
And tell them they just have to give up land to the Russians? That would an interesting meeting to watch.
@helenlozinski3072
Жыл бұрын
@@dragonade85 I agree with you. Ukrainians should never give up their land to Russia. Chomsky needs to consider Ukrainian security concerns without capitulating to Russia's land grab.
@Nenad2012
Жыл бұрын
@@dragonade85 Well, that is one and the same country and people. You cannot understand that as a citizen of multiethnic, non-national states. This is a big problem for you. It would be different if Russia entered Finland. Ukraine and Belarus: a completely different question. That should be understood, if one interprets this.
@dragonade85
Жыл бұрын
@@Nenad2012 So Ukraine and Belarus are really part of Russia? There's the problem right there; Russian imperialism and irredentism.
Sic!!!
Sic!
"I have never seen censorship and repression like today." - NC
Noam's tone explains the power.
You can start by not using their fertilizer, which should have been limited, as the oil lobby for fertilizers are the same damaging factors.
Putin said it the war is only about imperialism and recreating the Russian Empire. This war has nothing to do with NATO.
@Nenad2012
Жыл бұрын
It's best for you to keep quiet. Every word betrays your lack of intelligence.
Thank you for posting. The live chat was extremely helpful. LIKE and SHARE
I'm very right of center, but Chompsky's thoughts on this topic are fascinating.
Years of official conflict readiness in every way, now unleashed. How, did anyone hope to stop any of this ?
@soviet9366
Жыл бұрын
by winning it.
👍👍👍👌👌👌✌🏻🤞✌🏻
He is a Saint like we read in the Christian theology books but not a christian. It sade that the American politicians and people doesn't accept the wisdom of such rear person who come to the world once in hundred years.
absolutely brilliant. Old war horse.
As long as the final solution is perfection on one side you will get the point.
I love that Noam has a dog. Just adds some light to his shining legacy.
The children that inherit the earth will have little to be proud of from the leaders of the current world.
@MegaArroman
Жыл бұрын
Listen to Noam Chomsky - the world is much more civilized now than it was in the past.
Елизавета, неужели нельзя было отключить звук у телефона на время интервью?!
Elizaveta you are an angel..
Thank You Mr. Chomsky For the truth!
Does anyone even come close to understanding and explaining events of the world as well as he does?
I like many of what Noam Chomsky did, wrote an said. Here I think he's wrong. The reason is probably that he sees this only as an affair between US and Russia. I'm an European and our leaders kept in touch with Moscow and tried a lot to find a diplomatic road to a cease fire. Scholz, Macron and others had several and long phone calls with Putin. Especially the German cancellor Scholz hesitated to deliver weapons to the Ukraine because he feared an escalation of the war. But after all he and the other European leaders came to the conclusion that Putin is not willing to negotiate seriously. There is no good way out of this mess. Either the war goes on and costs 10.000s more deaths and bears the possibility of escalation (which I doubt) or we give Ukraine to Putin and live in fear of his next move for decades ... let aside what other dictatorships like China will conclude from a victory of Putin. For me another key aspect is if the Ukrainian people wants to fight or surrender. I'm willing to take some risk to help people fighting for a good cause.
@ericnolff8496
Жыл бұрын
I agree, he fails to differentiate past us policy from present, despite who is in office (as commander in chief) has a huge impact on how the us responds. For example, how different things would be if we had a sympathetic Donald trump in office. A dw news bit had a guest comparing Biden’s response to nuclear threat w jfk, also to show irresponsible diplomacy currently, but in I think in a less biased take on us diplomacy
" What The Media Is Hiding About Ukraine / Russia ? "
Dear Prof. Chomsky. You are such an important voice in this most crucial moment in human mankind. Thanks for speaking out. What you say here, should be also read and spread to a wider audience. I want to contribute a transcript of a part of your statement. Please excuse errors that might have occurred. Thanks also to MPA, which brought this on YT and wishing you all the best. Kind regards from Slovakia. 11.52 - 13.48 "We’re still, it’s to call for a ghastly experiment, let us see, whether Putin will slink away quietly in total defeat or whether he will use the weapons that he indisputably has and devastate the Ukraine and set the stage for a terminal war. That’s the ghastly experiment which happens to be operative in US-politics, supported by a wide range of opinions, always with noble rhetoric. So, how we must stand up for principles and not go for a crime unpunished. Well, when we hear this from supporters of US-crime, as we commonly do, we can simply dismiss it as sheer cynicism. More interesting for us, we hear it from our friends, from opponents of Us-crimes, who do not want to carry out the ghastly experiment that they are, in fact, advocating. At this point, some other questions arise, the rising tide of sheer irrationality, that is undermining any hope for serious discourse, which is a necessity not only for Ukraine but if the human experiment is to persist much longer. Well, if we can escape cynicism and irrationality the humane choice for the West is straightforward, seek and facilitate a diplomatic settlement". Here goes another one: 14.50 - 15.49 The marching orders, given out a couple of weeks ago at Ramstein, a US-military base in Germany, not in Brussels, the headquarter of NATO, this is more than symbolic, are: We have to continue to fight the war, to let the Ukrainians fight the war, to harm Russia. Whatever the consequences for Ukrainians, whatever the consequences, the so called collateral damages beyond, mass starvation, destruction of the environment that sustains life, possible terminal war, doesn’t matter, we have to harm Russians. Similar questions arise with the blockade and the mass starvation that it’s causing. Right now, Ukrainian ports are blocked by the Russian navy that is preventing desperately needed exports. So what can we do about it? Well, one possibility is official US-policy. Send advanced anti-ship missiles to sink the Russian ships , already sank the flag-ship, the flag-ship of the Russian fleet. With new shipments more, ..? ...can be, I don’t know. Will the Russians observe quietly? - May-be. - How would the US react under similar circumstances? ...? I put that aside. Another part of possibility, supported among others from the Wall Street Journal editors, quoting them, “use warships, use US-warships to escort merchant ships out of the black-sea. The editor assures, that this would conform to International law. They also say, that Russians are total savages who will stop nothing. These are the two ideas to keep in mind. So, if they react in their savage manner, we can proclaim proudly, that we upheld International law when the whole worlds goes down in flames. That’s considered sophisticated opinion! Actually Moscow has a different proposal, but in our increasingly totalitarian culture, can only be recorded at the extreme margin. I found it at the libertarian website reported a week ago. Maybe, one likes to contribute other parts as well.❤
Peace, not Profits!
The subtitles are distracting . Better off without them tbph... thanks for sharing !
' Noam Chomsky : The Crime Of US Presidents '
56:34 thanks for mentioning. Facing violent state-sponsored oppression.
Already Ukraine is a mini USA.
Renaissance of Nazism in Ukraine is more dangerous then future NATO perspective. For comparison, Finland's Nato membership does not really threaten Russia in any way - Finland will simply refuse to attack Russia. And it doesn't matter what kind of border, flat or not.
this the time of totalitarianism, sad
@petestanton1945
Жыл бұрын
Hedges sez it's "inverted totalitarianism" in the USA, elites owning the gov't
Azov steelworks fighters surrender 🟡🟡The Baghuz strike was one of the largest civilian casualty incidents of the war against the Islamic State, but it has never been publicly acknowledged by the U.S. military. The details, reported here for the first time, show that the death toll was almost immediately apparent to military officials. A legal officer flagged the strike as a possible war crime that required an investigation. But at nearly every step, the military made moves that concealed the catastrophic strike. The death toll was downplayed. Reports were delayed, sanitized and classified. United States-led coalition forces bulldozed the blast site. And top leaders were not notified. The Defense Department’s independent inspector general began an inquiry, but the report containing its findings was stalled and stripped of any mention of the strike.
Lets pray: OUR FATHER, LEAD US INTO LOVE AND FORGIVENESS,BUT DELIVER US FROM EVIL OF HATE AND REVENGE. Right now, OUR FATHER LEAD US INTO CREATION OF BEAUTIFUL,INDEPENDENT, NEUTRAL UKRAINE. Amen.🙏🙏🙏 Herein lies the peace or war on our earth! PS: Forward please this prayer to everyone, everywhere you can! Preferably to Ukrainian people!🙏Ukraine only/sole shall decide & negotiate status of Neutrality.🙏
As far as I undestand the “question”, the main difficulty in reaching an agreement to end the war is the attitude and interests of NATO, Well, in other words, the interests of the United States. Neither Russia, nor Ukraine, nor Europe, nor a good part of the world get anything good out of this war. It seems, however, that the United States - NATO does. It returns reinforced to the international arena, sowing chaos and spreading the political, economic and military crisis throughout the planet. As Mr. Chomsky has pointed out on more than one occasion, the United States is the most dangerous country on the planet. Europe should unilaterally promote an agreement with China, Russia and North Africa to stop the war and reorganize the international arena. There will undoubtedly be American retaliation, but we cannot go on living and destroying life in and on the planet at the expense of a single country. A single country run by the military industrial complex and large corporations.
@Brother_Antony_NPDsurvivor
Жыл бұрын
Well. The states is the godfather of the International world mafia (almost professor chomsky's words) and not a state in international affairs or world order. It's the order of their toxic theocratic (dogmatizing their political record and race who benefitted from the drawbacks of the Nazi in WW2) world that they want to dominate the world through. Take a glimpse of all the wars conducted in the world, one of the benefits is to choose an elite working and economic class while sinking European countries, by dint of the political leaders (their submissive puppies) with dozens of millions among whom jihadists are there to be moved by the agendas of the US neo-nazis. That's part of the picture of the political American ideology in the brains of most of those who have been in power
@Nenad2012
Жыл бұрын
Completely correct vision, in my opinion of course. I am surprised that Mr. Chomsky does not see that (this is about the conflict that is happening in Ukraine).
June 6 The U.S. is sending Ukraine medium-range missiles but faces so much world anger that it has to get its lackey the UK to send the long-range missiles---likely to be used by Ukraine against the Russian navy. So long, Planet Earth.
The Russian Flagship was destroyed by Ukrainian Made antiship missiles "Neptune". It happened before USA send antiship missiles to Ukraine, which is recent thing.
@justgivemethetruth
2 жыл бұрын
He did seem to imply it was done with US weapons ... but it was done with US intelligence.
@Nenad2012
Жыл бұрын
Oh, yes ... They report everything to you and me when and what they send ...
...facts that do not seem to be understood
My favorite graffito in New Zealand in 1966: “DON’T BE YANKED INTO VIETNAM WAR”.
Looking more and more like Bobby Fischer
Hahaha, well, Noam seems to have gotten "duded up" for this pretty young lady. Anyone notice that?
@petestanton1945
Жыл бұрын
New shirt straight outta the package
@leyniaLip
Жыл бұрын
He has worn an attractive shirt on other KZreads, too.
@justgivemethetruth
Жыл бұрын
@@leyniaLip Yes, but not so much in the last year or two.
Draftcardburners for Chomsky
@rodgerasai
2 жыл бұрын
Yes, but we don't have a man named Carter in the White House to give amnesty for such patriotic action any more (or a Canadian government friendly to peaceful protestors).
@richardjarrell3585
2 жыл бұрын
@@rodgerasai I recall well that although Mr. Jimmy began his administration with the amnesty, he ended it with reinstituting registration for the draft. 🙏🖖
@rodgerasai
2 жыл бұрын
@@richardjarrell3585 Well, as I recall, registration was never suspended - but the draft was never resumed.
@richardjarrell3585
2 жыл бұрын
@@rodgerasai I have mixed feelings about the draft. It’s definitely involuntary servitude, but the volunteer military means our battles are fought by those for whom service is a way out of the ghetto. The draft creates a more watchful public with more active protesting against over-reach. But were it brought back, I would stipulate that Congresspeople’s relatives must be called for duty before anybody else. I was born 16 April 1947, so I actually did burn draft cards in ‘66 and ‘67.
@rodgerasai
2 жыл бұрын
@@richardjarrell3585 Yes. I renounced my scholarships and enlisted in the Marine Corps after learning about the Poverty Draft (which seemed really unfair to me - made sense at the time).
15:02 I see it differently. Namely: We are broadening the spectrum of opportunities for the Ukrainian people as a whole. If they do not have adequate support, then they really don't have a choice but to be nudged towards a negotiated settlement. Now that they have somewhat more resources, they do actually have a choice to make. Every major Western power has been very clear to the point that continued fighting or a negotiated settlement is up to the Ukrainian people. But in my estimation it is important to give them the opportunity to fight. Seen in this view, nobody is trying to prolong the war but the Ukrainian people who have a right to do so since they were shamelessly invaded by a foreign aggressor.
sadly , russia itself does NOT support and never allow Internationally supervised Referendum neither in Donbas , nor in Crimea
Surviving at all at this point means burning what we got plus whatever new comes on line, like it has been added of course, whether ff, solar, coal or whatever. Otherwise, well, for example, we all monitor news that millions face starvation due to blockage and mines. Is it perhaps too much of a crop was grown in one region, or poor planning or whatever? The why won't matter to the starving. That example alone should be appreciated and make apparent to all: To keep 8 billion (and growing by millions more each week), even in a modicum of life, requires global industrial civilization going all out 24/7. Accept it. We are in a capsule at this point, no longer in a viable habitat to sustain us. We can probably figure out to the year the time when the last sociopath kills the next to last sociopath for the last can of peaches in their underground survival bunker. We are done. Stacking of catastrophe after catastrophe should give even the most fervent hope biased individual a clue. 7/8 walk into the ocean, as Bill Burr hilariously says or we gotta do what we got to do. If 10 people who spoke different languages are on a life boat, they all must share. Even if they calculated that if only two were sharing they'd just make it, that won't happen. Idealists think it is possible but even so it would be a one in fifty exception.
We’re you all opposed to the fight against Hitler in Germany.
Is there anyone who seriously thinks China becoming the top hegemonic superpower is a good thing?
Bring back RT!
Always higher than anybody else, this man is an international treasure. I have only one disagreement, namely Hungary and India, he is 100% right on the issue of these two countries being far right, but they are actually a pain in the butt for US foreing policy, because they don't follow US demands regarding Russia.
@rp3875
Жыл бұрын
As an Indian, I won’t agree that India is far right. Because of the political rot for 3 decades, people have elected a bunch of people who understand the majority of Indian society. And I don’t mean the much touted Religious majority of India. A large part of this society is incredibly poor, uneducated, traditional (socially conservative) and religious. India also has a ridiculous ‘always on’ election cycle that is really pretty ugly. To get votes, the politicians use rhetoric that appeals to the worst part of humans to win marginal votes from ‘vote banks’. These have been created over a long time based on lines of religion, India’s caste system, farmers are one of these groups….These groups have legitimate concerns but political statistics drive outrageous rhetoric which is unhealthy. So, a simplistic assessment that India is right wing is somewhat shallow.
@itssanti
Жыл бұрын
@@rp3875 Nice response. Althou the goverment is kind to the right thou, that new citizenship law is a testament to that, plus a recent prohibition for women to use hijab in institutions of education is kind of a move to the right...I thank you for your input but I disagree.
With age comes wisdom, but sometimes age comes alone.
guy is starting to look his age
So, if Federal government archives have a record of the verbal promise not to expand NATO at an official government meeting, is that considered a legal agreement under international law? What recourse in an international arena (such as the UN or an international court of justice) did Russia have when that agreement was broken? An internationally supervised referendum instead of all these lives ruined by war? Wouldn't the UN be just the body? Except for what?
@TiberiiGrakh
2 жыл бұрын
war started in 2014 IN 2014!!!!!!!!! when USA made a coup of legal Ukranian government. Then puppet Ukraine started shelling LDNR cities and killing russian ethnicity civilians in Ukraine 14 k were dead are you sorry for that lives too or you just "stop war" now cause CNN and other MSM crying about Ukraine atm and were dead silent for 8 years? Huh? are you sorry when NATO were killing hundreds of thousand CIVILIANS last 30 years in Iraq libiya syria etc etc? or they deserved cause they are all "dictators"? regarding NATO expanding. Lets russia put 10 nuclear rockets in Cuba and Mexico? will you like it?
THE GIRL CAN'T SAY WHAT SHE REALLY FEELS . OUR NATIONS NEED TO REALIZE THE RUSSIAN REFUGEES NEED TO BE SEEN FAIR & BE TAKEN IN LIKE THE UKRAINIANS , BUT NOT TOO CLOSE TO ONE ANOTHER FOR AWHILE....pww
Good old Chomsky, never missing an opportunity to appease or excuse Russia. Never missing an opportunity to excoriate the West. Nothing new or interesting here.
Noam Chomsky is a treasure for humanity. He talks sense, he talks peace, he talks about human rights, progress of poor countries, he talks about justice, etc. He is soft spoken, carries a rational argument, has a clear and deep understanding of world problems, and speaks with honesty and integrity. The situation of the world, especially with the US and Britain trying to vilify all others, while disregarding their ugly campaigns and escapades of colonizing and suppressing other nations and peoples through military invasions, economic sanctions, media suppression, vetoes in the United Nations, support of government that are repressive as long as they carry out pro US and UK policies or buy US and UK weapons. The Anglo American policy towards Russia and China, disregards the fact that these counties are the home of over one and the half billion people, that the people in those countries have great cultural contributions to the world, that these countries have a dynamic citizens that love their countries and are peace loving wanting the best for the children and neighbors. The US and UK seem to be leading the world into a situation best described by the limerick of the two cats of Kilkenny: There once were two cats of Kilkenny There once were two cats of Kilkenny, Each thought there was one cat too many, So they fought and they fit, And they scratched and they bit, Till, excepting their nails And the tips of their tails, Instead of two cats, there weren’t any.
russian citizen , plz go to Russia and explain to them as much as u did for US . Russians dont want to negotiate either
There is no end to the foolish comments, little help in addressing global problems, and even less cooperation to improve.
54:38 💨 😂
@KrisenNaidoo
2 жыл бұрын
Hahaha I caught that too ☺️
@wallygropius4451
2 жыл бұрын
@@KrisenNaidoo Me too :D
@Vinny141
2 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure that was the chairs material squealing under the weight of him shifting back/forth. It do sound like a 🍑 💨 though lole
Russian fertilizer is sanctioned? Would like to see a source on that
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Bleak times ahead. Seeing all the Americans eating up the Ukraine propgranda feels like a fever dream
@kellygroen4254
2 жыл бұрын
Do you think that Ukraine gets to decide who its president is or does Putin get to install a dictator?
@dragonade85
Жыл бұрын
Seeing people who think they're educated eating up Russian propaganda is depressing. 'The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.'
As much as I like Chomsky I don’t understand his comparison of Russia invading Ukraine to Germany invading Poland . Chomsky himself has said that NATO expansion was at issue for thirty years. Many others have said the same thing. Also Ukraine was getting ready to invade the Donbass. Seems like the west was responsible as Mershiemer also says. What alternatives did Putin have ??
@samubirmin2821
2 жыл бұрын
"Ukraine was getting ready to launch an invasion of Lugansk and donetsk" is akin to saying Iraq has WMD's. You have no proof. And Zelensky had already said "Ukraine must admit it will never join NATO." Either way, Nato isint attacking Russia.
@rockshox08
2 жыл бұрын
@@samubirmin2821 no proof ? I am not sure about your analogy The war had been going on for 8 years there. 14,000 killed Do you doubt that ?
@diogodenczuk
2 жыл бұрын
I can help you understand it: Russia is a fascist war aggressor like Nazi Germany.
@udopadrik9971
2 жыл бұрын
@@rockshox08 Let us not forget how such wars near Russia tend to start. 2014 Putin still bothered to pretend he doesn't start wars in other countries and as I remember launched media campaigns to convince others that the war somehow originated from Ukraine and was not a result of Putin's own operations. In Georgia I understand it had been the same. The news of attacks from Georgian side were ready to be printed in Russian media before there was any war activity. Russia attacked and then news about "attacks from Georgia" broke out, to a large extent pre-written. So yeah, Putin caused a war in Ukraine in 2014 and now that ongoing war is used as an argument for his newest invasion. Strong propaganda capabilities at play, it would seem.
@rockshox08
2 жыл бұрын
@@samubirmin2821 NATO has attacked Russia. Russian generals have been targeted and murdered and a Russian ship was attacked. It has been admitted that western (NATO)intelligence was behind the attacks. The Ukraine army was trained and supplied for 8 years after the coup. Putin wanted assurance from the west no NATO, it never came . You are absolutely wrong. Also coercing Finland and Sweden to join is another act of war by NATO. Once the US moves weapons in to Finland near the Russian border that will trigger an act of war and Russia will attack. What is the point of all this ? Maybe Russia should install weapons again in Cuba ? I wonder how that would go over ??? Lol
Nevertheless, Chomsky ignores, covers up and defends the Renaissance of Nazism in Ukraine. What Chomsky says is well-known geopolitics and many of his arguments were compensated and closed by the liberation of Crimea in 2014. But the issue of the revival of Nazism, which he carefully does not mention, could not be defeated by the return of the Crimea. It was real current state Nazism that threatened Russia and the Ukrainians themselves - and not some future membership in Nato. However, the upcoming Nazi attack on Donbass and the daily killing of civilians is the reality of that time. The murder and burning alive of Odessa demonstrators is a reality - even REVENGE is a more important motive than empty words about NATO mythical prospect..
Kazakhstan president & Putin ally Tokayev rejects recognition of Russia's proxy "republics" in Ukraine At StPetersburg economic forum, he said Kazakhstan supports int recognized borders.
@user-ru1xy8od8k
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This is a free interpretation))) And there is no need to pull Kazakhstan to the front line of fire))) Kazakhstan is a very good intermediate hub for everything, especially for gray imports))) It is very convenient that in Kazakhstan, in addition to the jurisdiction of Kazakhstan, there are 2 more territories with a British legal field and a Russian one... Only shhh, I buy games in the Steam through Kazakhstan, which are prohibited for the Russian Federation... Just don't tell anyone))) х2
@Nenad2012
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@@user-ru1xy8od8k Well, this one interprets many things freely. He lacks intelligence ...
Everyone jumps on the bandwagon when it suits. Where was he when some in Northern Ireland were being funded by America? It took 911 for some in America to even be able to spell the word terrorist. Don't get me started on illegal wars even. Ukraine has the right to protect itself from an aggressor . Simple as if someone comes into your house. Massachusetts Peace Action should sort problems at home where more children are killed than police every year before they come up with a solution outside the USA Finland and Sweden, in fact any nation has a right to apply to NATO without threats. Chomsky may have a few valid points, but it is like farting in the wind imo. So many words when just a few could do.
Fortunately, it seem a substantial number of Western intellectuals are against NATO in this Russia Ukraine Conflict.
@mohammedraheef1415
2 жыл бұрын
ukraine is only the next Afghanistan. Nato is using the same blueprint in ukraine
@kellygroen4254
2 жыл бұрын
Yes. Russia should be able to install puppet dictators in its former "colonies" and send in the tanks if the local population gets uppity and overthrows said dictators like the good old days of the Warsaw Pact. How dare the Eastern European countries that were under the boot of Soviet domination for years join an alliance that prevents Russia from ever doing that again... sarc//
@petestanton1945
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This channel exposed the conspiracy
Palestine has the right to exist too.
Odd statement in beginning. According to her US should not have been providing Lendlease to USSR to withstand Hitler.
@Soulseeologia
2 жыл бұрын
Crazy that people still believe Hitler and Stalin were acting independently when they both served the same masters in the Vatican.
The Russian Military Intervention is infact not a criminal Aggression like Mr. Chomsky says because the purpose of this Military Intervention is the support of the only legitime representatives of Ukraine as a subject of international law which are the Donbass Peoples Republics. Russia is not a paper tiger and was not unable to conquer cities near its own border because the priority of the Special Military Operation is to keep civilian deaths as low as possible which is difficult because the Neo-Fascist Volunteers use Civilians as human shields.
What a load. Appease Putin at our peril.
Lol! Than why or better how you or anyone can blame Russia and Putin?!
Just give Putin the Ukraine and there will be peace. Ah yes Monachium 2.0
Russia have attacked Ukraine and you talk only about USA. Its not USA which have invaded Ukraine.
Check out Russell Brand’s take on Uvalde massacre
I seriously question chomsky's judging ability , since I know he was friends with Epstein.
I've been reading and watching Chomsky for some time, and he has given invaluable perspectives on countless occasions, but lately, and especially on the war in Ukraine, he has not been convincing and to me even seems possibly dangerously off. For better worded critique on Chomsky's stance on Ukraine, I'd recommend Vlad Vexler's video of how to critique Chomsky and strongly recommend Stephen Kotkin's interviews on the war in Ukraine. Yes, Kotkin depicts the freedoms in the west in warmer tones than I would, but his critique of the arguments similar to those of professor Chomsky, seem to be very much on point. Although they have worded it better, I will try to counter professor Chomsky here myself. From his stance he seems uncaring for the sufferings of the victims in Ukraine and doesn't seem to want the Ukrainians to have a say in their own fate. President Zelensky is the one asking for much more military aid than what the west or other countries have given and president Zelensky, by the latest polls in Ukraine, as I understand, has a support of over 90% of the population (before the war he had support of less than 30%). Unless the war is a huge media fabrication at a scale that is bigger than that of the Covid pandemic described by antivaxers, this much seems clear - Ukraine is asking for the weapons, the west is stalling and trying to buy ground for Putin - wanting to cave in to Russian claims on Ukraine's territory, in fear of the nuclear war or other consequences. Perhaps Chomsky has some other sources, but I think they would need to be made more open for validity checking than they are in the interviews with him that I've seen. On the war in Ukraine Chomsky seems to take the position very similar to Oliver Stone - analogous to someone protecting the interests of a rapist or a wife-beater. The invasion of Ukraine seems to be the fault of Ukrainians deluding themselves about having a free will separate from Russia and the fault of the west "flirting" with Ukraine. Chomsky's view seems to be that because Putin is capable of that much harm he should have the right to perform horrendous invasions to other countries and west should not help the victims defend themselves. Seriously, how different are Chomsky's sources on what is happening in Ukraine from mine that he has reached an opinion that seems as the one I have described? They are definitely always different, but from where does he gather that in the interest of peace we should let criminals do what they want and let them win by invading other countries? Does he have sources that indicate that it is better to negotiate with an aggressor from a submissive position than from a dominant position? Professor Chomsky seems to be practicing some "double speak" on us. I am confused. Is Russia so strong that we should let it just invade other countries in fear of it's nuclear capacities, or is it so obviously weak that it will definitely not invade any further if Ukraine just lets it have some of it's territory. I am not one to equate Putin with a certain past aggressor, but this strategy seems horribly similar to the groveling done by western powers before Germany at the start of WWII, supporting it's claims in the territories of neighboring countries with not much thought for those falling victim.
@joshbell5387
2 жыл бұрын
Chomsky said that it was up to the US to do all it can through diplomatic means, then it's up to Ukraine to go that rought or not. That is clearly giving Ukraine agency. Chomsky laying out how we got to this point which includes US provocation with NATO expansion is not him condoning the invasion. Did you even listen to the inteview? Or are you so thoroughly propagandized that you listened to the words yet can still type out this bull shit comment.
@udopadrik9971
2 жыл бұрын
@@joshbell5387 I must admit I responded to a Chomsky video I haven't watched thoroughly, but have watched others, so perhaps there is something significant in this one, but from what I watched he seems quite consistent with the previous interviews with him I have watched. I am not denying the significance of his insight and learning, especially on how we got to this point, but he has said things lately, especially on Ukraine, that make me suspect he has a world view tilted by his ideological beliefs or by being an American and it has begun to affect his judgement to a greater degree. It doesn't seem to come down to false information, although I don't know where he got the information that westerners are somehow forcefully sending military technology to Ukraine. From the Eastern parts of Europe it seems clear (whatever "clear" means at a time of war) that western leaders really want to avoid sending it, while Ukraine and the neighboring countries are rallying for it. Western leaders seem more dependent on Russian money or connections. American leaders seem to have a mutually beneficial relationship with many dictators. A view seems plausible that Putin has found a way of benefiting from that and counting on such mutual colonialist understandings. I admit i haven't watched the full video, but I don't think that disqualifies me too much, because I've seen Chomsky discounting and discrediting other people (Slavoj Žižek, Jordan Peterson) very casually as well. I'd say more casually and arrogantly than I have ever done with his views. Because I have not seen the video fully, I am hesitant to dismiss Chomsky's ideas of negotiation fully, but I've watched a few giving that argument. Only instances that I've seen the argument for "giving Putin a golden bridge out" presented convincingly are those where it is acknowledged that Ukraine and the west should have a dominant position. Yanis Varoufakis seemed to argue that position convincingly in an interview with him I watched. Unfortunately, without giving military aid to Ukraine that dominant position seems problematic. Let us not forget that this is not Putin's first military excursion. He has learned to win from even catastrophic military actions, shooting down civilian planes, murdering people with outlawed radioactive substances in western countries. What kind of diplomatic settlement would make him finally decide that "this is wrong"? Almost any peace from which he can get big enough of a "win" out of, would almost certainly mean he'll start preparing for a next attack somewhere. Russian people seem to rally behind him with every war. Sacrificing Russian lives and being sanctioned doesn't seem to do anything. The problem with negotiations carried by western leaders seems to be that westerners live in totally different frames of reference and they don't understand what a "loss" would mean for people in Russia or Putin. We can't say people near Russia "understand" them, but it does appear we see Putin's game better, and many of us are quite fearful of western leaders negotiating with Russia. They seem overly willing to sacrifice people that are not them to Putin, out of ignorance or for perhaps for some other benefits. New applications to NATO seem very understandable from countries near Russia. I will watch more of the interview with Chomsky. Perhaps he has some great insight on this I have somehow missed in other videos. On Ukraine he thus far seems too aligned with the view Russian and Chinese propaganda seems to be pushing. The aim seems to be to accept or validate Russian colonialist aspirations - if America invades countries, Russia should be allowed too seems to be the argument. Neighboring countries disapprove.
@kevinjohnson9533
2 жыл бұрын
I don't agree Udo. Both Kotkin and Vexler start from an anti-Russian bias. Chomsky employs reason and critical historical analysis to present a balanced and fair view with a wider knowledge of the facts of U.S. foreign policy. Too the Russian, Ukraine, NATO conflict is not new to Chomsky he has been speaking on its critical importance presciently at least for the last decade if not longer.
Is this guy still peddling bad ideas?
About Ukraine, best scenario for it is to shrink to the size of Lviv region, Russia will take Kharkov Odessa, Dnepropetrovsk, Nikolaev (whatever communist gave away, it will take back)will not be surprised if some regions will go to Belorussia
@ArchiNart
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As a person who grew up in USSR and who’s relatives from Ukraine, you are talking out your ass
@ArchiNart
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But go ahead and keep leaving in la la land, typical Anglo Saxon/ Western European arrogance, thinking that you know better the other
@torquetorque1777
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About you, best scenario is I go into your house and steal 1/4 of your land and property.
This don’t make any sense.. USA England is for continuing the war ?? Really ?? By using Ukrainia to do it ? For us ?? That’s bad politics. But anything posibile
I don’t understand how someone can say that the US has surrounded Russia and aggressively put missiles on its border in two states and is now supporting a Nazi state to do it again and has provoked Russia into this and then blames Russia for finally invading Ukraine after Ukraine and the US refused to negotiate and listen to their concerns. I don’t see how they had any other choice if they want to exist so I wish people of reason would be consistent in their reasoning and stop blaming Russia.
@kellygroen4254
2 жыл бұрын
The Nazi state that elected a Jewish President? And I just love the tankies somehow insisting that Russia is "justified" in its invasion of Ukraine due to such lame excuses. Imagine if the US invaded Cuba because the US government doesn't like that government. I think you'd be crying bloody murder on that one.
@69birdboy
2 жыл бұрын
The Russians are no angels....Syrian war crimes for example.. chechyna etc. It's just a battle for world supremacy. If Russia gained the upper hand , in some Chinese pact what would Chomsky's reaction be...
"Why Noam Chomsky is Garbage" The True Face of Chomsky!
@shenbapiro1291
2 жыл бұрын
Worthless video made by an imbecile
Fossil fuels is what gives humans the energy to sustain a population above 8 billion people. Fiddling with the current energy supply chain can be more devastating for human life than a nuclear war.
The US Senate totally supports white Christian Russia- not to worry
@dk5610
2 жыл бұрын
Its the far right who supports putin. And thats thr whole middle of usa
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