I've never seen a Chomsky interview with good audio. Never

@dailydissent6076

3 жыл бұрын

😂

@OoOo-qb5ec

2 жыл бұрын

Yes. And I'm starting to think that maybe his voice is like that. 😂

@mourdebars

2 жыл бұрын

This one is great kzread.info/dash/bejne/lGd5k69vndCxXco.html

@Ryan256

2 жыл бұрын

This audio is too atrocious to listen to, unfortunately. Even with headphones. Why spend the time to interview a luminary figure if we can’t hear it properly?

@Ghettofinger

2 жыл бұрын

In this case, it was in person, so that’s the fault of the interviewers. Though, most recent interviews were remote and he doesn’t have good audio setup, so it’s impossible right now. However, the interview with Lawrence Krauss sounded good.

so many Chomsky interviews so much bad audio lmao

@dixonpinfold2582

3 жыл бұрын

And yet observe that honking microphone in front of him. Is he just a champion mumbler?

@sammyslam1

3 жыл бұрын

So true, but it has more to do with the Chomsky mumble....lol

@saskk2290

3 жыл бұрын

@@sammyslam1 or your inability to listen

@tookie36

2 жыл бұрын

about 50% of the time i have to use an external speaker so i can actually hear the conversations.

@edwinamendelssohn5129

2 жыл бұрын

It's his voice! The other guy isn't muffled

But Professor, ain't it wrong to say just because 'e might be able to speak two languages, that him'll be into ladies and also into boys?

@hagop4780

5 жыл бұрын

Parachute.

@briankaul1201

5 жыл бұрын

LOL

@seppe8156

4 жыл бұрын

Ali g interview for those who are confused by this comment

@funknotik

4 жыл бұрын

Booyakasha

@ProgressiveVoice

4 жыл бұрын

John Reid laplella and lafeena

Barbarity isn't the opposite of civilization; it's civilization's alter-ego.

@ac1dP1nk

3 жыл бұрын

oooh

@ArmLegLegArmHead47

3 жыл бұрын

True indeed.

@sonnywright4259

3 жыл бұрын

Fax!

@sgbh8874

2 жыл бұрын

Aw, everyone's always picking on the Barbarians just because they don't speak the same babble

@andyboerger

2 жыл бұрын

nice one!

Nathan J Robinson was super nervous in this interview, and I don't blame him for being so, Chomsky is kind of his hero afterall Great interview!

@staatsfeindlich9939

5 жыл бұрын

Agreed although Noam would never accept the hero title, being true to his anarchist leanings

@waynebrinker8095

5 жыл бұрын

I suggest you watch it again. I'm pretty sure it's Woody Allen on coke.

@user-wl2xl5hm7k

3 жыл бұрын

Wayne Brinker lol I suggest you look into individualist anarchism. Those people wouldn’t bat an eye at unique behavior.

@MrSebastiantaylor1

3 жыл бұрын

robbinson is a bright dude

@ads-porewealth96

2 жыл бұрын

He wasn’t nervous, he was arrogant and smug. Can’t even look him in The Eye. Robinson is a weak dishonest self loathing egotist.

Why is Woody Allen conducting this interview?😂

@tobiaskraus

4 жыл бұрын

Nicely observed. :-)

@ericpmoss

3 жыл бұрын

Because, if you're going to interview Chomsky, you need someone who knows the difference between 'heuristic' and 'hermeneutic'.

@justgivemethetruth

3 жыл бұрын

No.

@squatch545

3 жыл бұрын

Because he needs the eggs.

@almostfancyconnoisseur8929

3 жыл бұрын

2:46 - woody allen mannerism right there

Speaking from personal experience, Professor Chomsky isn’t easily impressed. I’m grateful he doesn’t have a mean streak

@dorianphilotheates3769

3 жыл бұрын

Greta Of The Corn - Reactionaries say the cleverest things...

@8beef4u

3 жыл бұрын

@S W He is indeed food

@HalfBakeDestruction

3 жыл бұрын

You know, I heard tell that he's a Zionist gatekeeper and he's bad. Quite frankly, I dunno what him working a toll booth at a national park has to do with him being bad. Actually sounds quite nice.

@dorianphilotheates3769

3 жыл бұрын

HalfBakeDestruction - A “Zionist Gatekeeper”? That sounds marvellous! Does it pay more than $12.50/hr.? I’m an out-of-work professor of archaeology - how do I get a job like that?

@squamish4244

2 жыл бұрын

I worry that his negativity turns as many people off to social action as the opposite. Endless bitching does no one any good.

Impressive hand movements

Joe Rogan needs to have on Chomsky

@bjarczyk

5 жыл бұрын

Rogan doesn’t invite leftists on his show.

@marcgodfrey331

5 жыл бұрын

@@bjarczyk he has had on abby Martin, Kyle kulinski, Jimmy dore, Andrew yang, the Weinstein brothers, and many other guests with a wide range of beliefs.

@juhoaalto9699

5 жыл бұрын

@@bjarczyk outright lie

@Datharass

5 жыл бұрын

@@marcgodfrey331 Yang isn't a leftist.

@yazhajohnson254

5 жыл бұрын

You really think Joe could stay awake and pay attention to Chomsky? For a linguist, he’s not so much an interesting speaker.

3:27 "iphone hasa dubious effect on your life" spot on

@naveed210

3 жыл бұрын

Would you add social media to that too?

would help if that mic was plugged in

brian ferguson anthropologist is the man!!!!

Being Neoliberal isn’t Centrism - it’s Right Wing deregulatory Capitalism, dismantlement of social programs, Corporate welfare, and worship of markets.

@madamewho

5 жыл бұрын

I would add to that made-up wars to open up markets and territory for transnational corps that have killed millions in the so called, "Drug Wars."

@WayoftheDave

5 жыл бұрын

You're making neo liberalism sound good

@alanwatts797

3 жыл бұрын

@@WayoftheDave Are you a psychopath?

has XLR mic, doesnt use it

geezus, you think you could've made the sound quality any worse?

This kid interviewing Chomsky is sort of cringe, but I love Noam, I’m hurt that his voice is ever gravely and weak.

@Junebug89

2 жыл бұрын

You be nice to my boy Nathan!

I like how Chomsky subtly contrasts Pinker's work with the "serious" examinations others have made. I hadn't heard of Gordon's book before this; think I'll give it a read.

@nicholas6870

2 жыл бұрын

By serious he means, academic/scholarly work. Pinker is more like pop-science

@crypto-radio8186

Жыл бұрын

@@nicholas6870 Ah, exactly

@amulyamishra5745

Жыл бұрын

​@@nicholas6870 Yeah...anyone whose work might mean that anarchists are wrong is a pop-science.

@collbair

Жыл бұрын

@@amulyamishra5745 Steven Pinker is a pop science

@amulyamishra5745

Жыл бұрын

@@collbair and you're sir?

I like how when Noam Chomsky says he has one thing right he's just being honest.

@NuanceOverDogma

2 жыл бұрын

unlike Chomsky the Charlatan King

@hotstixx

2 жыл бұрын

@@NuanceOverDogma Unlike Sowell the farcical Demi-god.

@MS-fg8qo

Жыл бұрын

Unlike Harry CallahanX, the judgemental nobody.

@leimleim

Жыл бұрын

Unlike picachu

@WokeBegone

11 ай бұрын

At last, someone not calling Chomsky the wisest person evvvvaaaaaaaa! He's an idiot who needs lobotimising right now, after his Piers Morgan interview where he claims Chris Ruffo invented (the term?) Critical Race Theory, it's the most hilariously cringe thing I've ever heard, so clearly obviously untrue, the copium is strong with that one.

The “radical centrist” between the center right and right lol

@johnnonamegibbon3580

5 жыл бұрын

define right. Many of his right wing viewers think he's too far left as he said nothing to the twitter ceo who banned many conservatives for no reason.

@danlamprich4874

5 жыл бұрын

@@johnnonamegibbon3580 Everyone is right-wing compared to Chomsky and his audience

@johnnonamegibbon3580

5 жыл бұрын

@@danlamprich4874 I actually love Noam. He was a big influence on my thinking on a deep level. I'm not just saying that's a platitude. His philosophy is gorgeous and understanding of Science and human instincts. However, many of his fans don't really "Get" him. He's not as far left as they think. He likely believes men and women are different and that even different races are, as that's what the science suggests, for example. He does believe some foolish stuff, like that women were "oppressed". I don't agree.

@danlamprich4874

5 жыл бұрын

@@johnnonamegibbon3580 While I agree with you for the most part, my point was that one must have a really warped ideological perspective to consider Pinker even remotely right-wing. If Pinker is right-wing, then the majority of people must be right-wing extremists and the label loses all meaning.

@johnnonamegibbon3580

5 жыл бұрын

@@danlamprich4874 Exactly. I agree. I went off topic. Opps.

Now that's six minutes well worth listening. Related to Chomsky's last mention: Science is wonderful. The whole point of it is for the advancement and betterment of humanity. Science could be used to create a thriving healthy oasis of this planet or misused to kill each other if the goals of science are twisted by the influence of a power structured system as we have. I think we know the goals are twisted. And I think we know which direction we should be taking.

@nanashi7779

Жыл бұрын

What direction should we be taking?

@fierce-green-fire8887

10 ай бұрын

unfortunately, like almost everything, science has practically become coopted by systems of power. Science is just a tool, that's all. Science has given us a method for how to approach seeing the world and trying to figure it out but it is rather limited. It can only speak to things it can measure and even that is up to interpretation. The communities of scientists are imperfect humans. There is no surprise that the rise of science coincides with the rise of more brutal, more organized, larger, and more powerful systems of death and destruction in the same way that the rise of high tech in the US coincides with the rise of superfund sites where unconscious high tech manufacturing firms dumped their incredibly toxic waste. There is always a cost to so-called progress. There is also the very strong tendency for the educated class of people to worship science to the point that science is the new religion for many so that now many people not only do not need to know anything about the science but they also don't care to understand the science beyond the point of believing the science because marketing and advertising uses "science" as a stamp of approval on products and ideas. Reality and existence are incredible. Nature is incredible. Science is a pretty good attempt of humans to better know things...and all useful things get swallowed by the political economic structures to be twisted and used to keep us even more deeply entrenched in our cubical indoctrination, in cyberspace so we have less influence on real politics. To study and understand science, truly, is to respect it as a double-edge sword. Ultimately, an argument can be made that science (for example industrial revolution and other advanced stages) has accelerated our destruction of the planet, the population explosion, mass global exponential consumption. I would argue that overall, it is difficult to claim we've experienced moral progress as we systematically exterminate what remains of earth's indigenous cultures. Science as an enterprise is doing very little to actually solve problems of humanity. Science and engineering are, however, focused on solving problems of getting products to the market and working hard to assist people (called consumers) to purchase more stuff that is designed to become immediately obsolete and dumped in landfills.

@mra4955

9 ай бұрын

What are the goals?

@user-kh7kx9en9l

6 ай бұрын

Science is done for fun, not the betterment of humanity lol.

Interviewers really must learn to be more concise with their questions and let the guest talk.

@MrB1923

3 жыл бұрын

They want to be the centre of attention. ALL journalist do. It's a narcissistic profession.

4:29 Chomsky: "One thing that [Steven Pinker] says is correct. I think that's about it. [audience laugher] Since the Enlightenment, there has been moral progress; in our own lifetimes, there has been moral progress. So, consider, for example, the status of women's rights today and in 1950 -- very different. The status of civil rights -- very different. Gay rights -- very different. That's progress, and it's been going on slowly since the Enlightenment. But that's a pretty brief period of human history. In fact, right at this same time have been the most murderous, destructive wars ever, and even seventy years ago, the creation by some of the smartest people in the world, of a device that may destroy us all.".

@TheMar320

3 жыл бұрын

@@kenfresno5218 he doesnt ignore them, because he mentions Bryan Ferguson, who has refuted them. Those numbers are a bunch of crap.

@TheMar320

3 жыл бұрын

@@kenfresno5218 www.researchgate.net/publication/273371719_Pinker%27s_List_Exaggerating_Prehistoric_War_Mortality you're welcome...my dumbass friend.

@TheMar320

3 жыл бұрын

@@kenfresno5218 these are the crap we are talking about. We you are mentioning the same source?

@TheMar320

3 жыл бұрын

@@kenfresno5218 "Given all this, the current global population trends aren’t encouraging. Countries and cities are getting bigger, which should, theoretically, lead to larger overall war losses (even if the percentages are smaller). But even more worrisome is the fact that population growth is soaring, particularly in areas with historically unstable politics. Given the math-and the daily news about the tense relationship between the U.S. and North Korea (as just one example), along with the unfettered combativeness of Trump and Kim Jong-un-a third World War seems plausible" This seems to accept the Pinker's thesis but for different reasons. It's higly critical, thanks for the source.

@TheMar320

3 жыл бұрын

@@kenfresno5218 this is critical also , but out of the topic.

The audio is so distorted that I muted it and tried to follow the CCs, but they were not carefully edited and were of no help.

The irony is that Chomsky's non-linguistic works are far more nonesensical and lacking in serious scholarship than anything pinker has put out.

I quite like the interviewer, lol.

@kevinmathewson4272

3 жыл бұрын

Nathan J Robinson

Even if what Steven Pinker says is true (that we're living in the most favorable of times) you have to ask how long this period in human history will last. The weight of evidence suggests that industrial civilization will be in serious decline in a few decades and that it could easily be mostly gone by the end of this century.

@prahladsaldanha568

4 жыл бұрын

The future is never determined. We can change to create a better future.

@401Northwestern

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly pukulu! How long will it last? That is the question. Chomsky is also right! Its a relatively small alice of history.

@henrilemoine3953

3 жыл бұрын

@@wordwarrior2350 If he is right about a lucky few, then he isn't right at all, because he argues for a statistical improvement in life over the centuries. However, I disagree, as there are more than a lucky few who have enjoyed the benefits of civilisation and technology in the last centuries, and I think that, as Pinker argues, the enlightenment has brought a statistical increase in most if not all positive areas of life. I'm currently reading Pinkers book, and I am reasonably convinced, but as always when reading a book, I try to find the best counter-arguments and critiques on the internet, and I'm still pretty convinced, as no pages I've read did a good job at countering Pinker's most important point. If any of you guys have good counter-arguments to Pinker's thesis, then I'd be delighted to see it. :)

@henrilemoine3953

3 жыл бұрын

@Raw Engineer You claim that "the current era will likely end probably between 2040 and 2050, but this will be due to mass movement of people, the continuing rise of aggressive Islam and over-population leading to collapse in the global food supply". Do you have evidence for that? If the current era even ends before the end of the century, I heavily doubt that the cause will be Islamist fundementalism, over-population, or even mass movement. To me, real existential threats come from unsafe rise in technologies, such as a misguided human-level Artificial Intelligence, or nanotechnology. But the examples you gave? No way. Ok, I just wrote what I wrote, but I want to correct myself, because I realize I wasn't arguing against what you said, but against what I thought you said. Yeah, the risks you gave could be the end of the current era, depending on how loosely you define the era. I think that my main criticism is that I doubt that the era as you define it is similar to the one I define. Anyway, how would you define the change of the era you are predicting in 20-30 years? Would it require a dramatical change in the structure of power in the world, or a complete colapse of society as we know it, or a colapse of the economy, or an all-out war, or something else? Or does it only require the imigration of a steadily growing number of people, who might destabilize the balance in which we find ourselves in? Again, I'm throwing possible answers, but I'm pretty curious as to your thoughts on the matter.

@henrilemoine3953

3 жыл бұрын

"The weight of evidence suggests that industrial civilization will be in serious decline in a few decades and that it could easily be mostly gone by the end of this century." I really need to see this evidence, @pukulu, so if you have it I'd be really curious to see it. I've seen evidence in the past that argues the complete opposite, so it could really help me grow if I could see this evidence. Thanks :)

A couple of things I like to keep in mind that Ive learned. First present day occupations for the average blue collar are already working more than a third or so than our hunter gatherer ancestors(thats carl Sagan paraphrase because the exact figure i just recall being reputably higher). Second if you were living in an earlier age chances are HIGH thag uou’d be breathing clean air. A complete acknowledgment there isnt a single oil derrick or fracking sight, wastefund site, or natural gas station near indiscriminately making an “honest buck” . The closest thing would be the camp fire or outhouse.

@MrCmon113

5 жыл бұрын

No one's keeping you from wandering into the wilderness and living off roots. Go ahead, you ungrateful moron.

@briankaul1201

5 жыл бұрын

Woodsmoke is incredibly toxic. If you were cooking on a fire, you would not be breathing clean air.

@zachflame123

5 жыл бұрын

worker productivity has risen year by year for decades, yet worker wages have stayed flat or declined. Americans work longer hours than anybody, with little or no paid vacation, no paid sick leave, poorer benefits, weaker retirement, no job security, high costs of living, no affordable child care and student debt. These trends are creeping onto the continent, hiding behind Merkel's pantsuit.

@zachflame123

5 жыл бұрын

@@MrCmon113 --- so you say SOCIETY offers benefits and values a libertarian sociopath cannot? Hard to argue there. THat wasn't your point but when you deal so often in straw-men, as do you, things are bound to get itchy and tangled up.

How did it happen that the first interviewer was a toddler?

I suspect Noam did not read pinkers book. He seems to to use the exact criticism that pinker anticipated and discussed in his book. Noam still thinks he’s the only one that does not have his head up his….. he never grew up.

@user-ib9ky2jo9h

Жыл бұрын

Aw de little neoliberals upset over his mouthpiece getting called out

@chrislong1287

Жыл бұрын

@@user-ib9ky2jo9h hello, what’s the intent of your comment? I’m a little dense sometimes! Haha

@Gomer._.

Жыл бұрын

@@user-ib9ky2jo9h I just started reading the blank slate and I’m confused af what is this man’s affiliations

Dude accidentally took too much Adderall before the interview lol

Having read them both, Pinker so much better! Sorry Chom!

Hmmm - I read Better Angels. I just don't think Chomsky counters Pinker's arguments and *data*. As one example, the 20th century war comment reveals he did not read or understand Pinker's arguments, which are laid out in some detail.

@synchronium24

Жыл бұрын

I'm glad you still have your sanity.

Yes, Dr. Chomsky, let's all go back to the blissful live of the cave.

there is this 1991 paper by William Eckhardt called "War-related Deaths Since 3000 BC" that contradicts pinker's findings, and i really want smart people to critique it

@energyben

5 жыл бұрын

I don't know anything about the paper you mention but war-related deaths from the middle ages or before should of course be presented as a proportion of the total global population, not as absolute figures, as they are very misleading. Pinker's 'findings' are not actually his findings, they are a summary of other key statisticians' work in this area. He also references Our World in Data quite a lot, which is an excellent source of info on a whole range of human welfare/social development areas

@7lllll

5 жыл бұрын

@@energyben the paper i mentioned shows war deaths have increased as a percentage of total population not just absolute figures. i looked at "our world data" section "war and peace," and its figures appear to be consistent with Eckhardt's. it is very hard to find data that goes further back than the middle ages

@energyben

5 жыл бұрын

​@@7lllll the data referenced in Our World In Data doesn't show an increase overall though, it represents the 20th century as yet another peak. Also as you say this only includes the relatively recent past of the middle ages, and even from that the picture is pretty mixed. We can clearly see huge spikes in 16th, 17th, 18th and 19th centuries as well as the 20th. As the authors of that section point out, there is a certain amount of historical myopia going on when looking at the violence of the 20th century - it is the closest century to our vantage point and thus easier to recall. As an example of something beyond our vantage point is Genghis Khan's wars in the 13th century. There is data that suggests that when you take into account civilian deaths from starvation and disease as a result of war, his atrocities in the 13th century killed off a significantly larger amount of the global population than WW2, which can be ranked as the 11th most bloody episode in human history. This is when you also roll in civilian deaths rather than just battlefield deaths. I'm not a statistician and can't argue to the validity of these statistics, but given that medical standards for civilians (and soldiers) was so very much worse in the middle ages and prior to that than it has been for the last few centuries, these figures would seem to make sense. The figures I quoted are here:historum.com/threads/the-20-worst-things-people-have-done-to-each-other.75212/ Disclaimer: I have read Pinker's book on the history of violence, ('Better Angels...') and I am a former anti-capitalist misanthrope

@7lllll

5 жыл бұрын

@@energyben the data at our world in data shows the 2 world wars as the biggest peaks, and the scale is logarithmic, so the slight difference in height is a big deal, and notice the relative peace in the 15th and 16th centuries. i do not know about the rest of your claims, which is why i want smart people to critique the paper i referenced

@energyben

5 жыл бұрын

@@7lllll they are not my claims, the source is included for you. The only claim I made was about medical standards, and that's clearly factual.

poor audio

The disconnect between the working left and the intellectual left is one of its core weaknesses. I cannot believe someone as smart as Chomsky considers smartphones “frills”. The ability for skilled workers to use their phones anywhere and have the internet everywhere practically a superpower. I’m not upset that the great man has apparently never had a job that produces but he should know what the realities of production are if his economic theories should be taken seriously.

@bluechurchowl7641

5 жыл бұрын

"Smartphones are a superpower". Lol. You and I both know that 99% of people use their phones to look at meaningless drivel to keep themselves entertained

@Sinleqeunnini

3 жыл бұрын

The difference is still small compared to electricity, basic phone, indoor plumbing, etc.

@Bisquick

3 жыл бұрын

​@G P I hope I'm wrong or missing something but, couple that consistent mass media gaslighting/manipulation with its progenitor in absurd corporate power effectively enforcing mass worker alienation resulting in substantial individual isolation, mass depression and a prioritization of individual indulgence and vulgar displays of power as the core motivating force that rewards material survival, and you get potent revolutionary anger without any solidarity or concrete direction to bring such a societal transformation about. Or in other words, basically massive, and I would say justified, indignation misdirected/sublimated into individual isolated acts of aggression against one's self or one of the hundreds of millions in the same boat rather than the handful of people that jammed us all in the boat in the first place and consistently refuse to let the majority of people off of it. It's quite sad and any conscious direction of such social forces is honestly pretty descriptive of "evil" in my opinion, but I think for the most part these underlying considerations or really any desire to look at a bigger picture are offloaded psychologically through various ideological justifications akin to a modern 'divine right of kings' so it remains hidden in plain sight for many but definitely intuited at some level by most if not all. Anyway, back to porn. It's on the phone now! Superpower indeed.

@isaacingersoll2841

2 жыл бұрын

@@Bisquick I need this on my wall

Terrible audio. These fellows don’t know how to properly capture the voice of this living genious, SAD.

Around the time of the Assyrian Empire was most violent period imo. 1 in every 400 humans on the planet was in their military.

Pity this was cut before the nuclear bomb discussion...

Why is Noam Chomsky audio always so bad? Weird.

@helloInternets

5 жыл бұрын

Because humans cannot listen to the voice of God unfiltered.

@uttaradit2

5 жыл бұрын

cia , mosad, mi6 and err microphone

@65minimom

5 жыл бұрын

Yes, Amy Goodman is a great interviewer & one of the few who features Noam. She also interviews Dr Cornell West, Ralph Nader, Chris Hedges. Amy is no slacker herself, very smart!

@post-socratic1417

5 жыл бұрын

Glad im not the only one to notice that every Chomsky video no KZread sounds like dog shit

The second clip of Noam could be the forward to Pinker's new book about the Enlightenment. I don't see what the disagreement is between these guys.

Noam CHOMSKY , meu herói ,❤️💞💕🌹🌹🌹

Well said Noam Chomsky thankyou and totally agree!!

It doesn't seem that Chomsky has actually read Pinker's newer books

@motorhead48067

3 жыл бұрын

verbadum22 You’re so desperate to defend him lol

@22kataking

3 жыл бұрын

He did not.

@Aj-ch5kz

3 жыл бұрын

@verbadum22 why aren't they taken seriously , isnt it obvious that pinker is correct on almost everything

Interviewer did a line before this

@funglegunk

3 жыл бұрын

He is clearly super nervous. Chomsky is his hero!

The end of the tribal life was highly likely the main source of the discomfort and unhappiness of urbanite populations.

What does Chomsky think of common refrigeration, minor medical interventions, basic dentistry. Has he not looked at a life expectancy chart or infant mortality rates???

@ally11488

2 жыл бұрын

What does Mike Graham think of anthropogenic climate breakdown, and rising tensions that could end up in the use of species ending weapons???

@Wilson_the_Mannequin

2 жыл бұрын

@@ally11488 I agree that nuclear weapons are a huge problem. I don't think anthropogenic climate change is a huge problem though. The worst projections of climate change do not take into account how people will adapt to climate change, such as building dykes and dams. Bjorn Lomborg explains this well. I don't like how Chomsky simply dismisses Pinker's recent work. What about eradicating smallpox? Malaria, the bubonic plague, tuberculosis etc are nowhere near as bad as they used to be because of science. The percentage of people dying of starvation is far smaller than it used to be. What about all the advances the previous commenter mentioned?

@ally11488

2 жыл бұрын

@@Wilson_the_Mannequin Is he simply dismissing it or basing his opinions on counter-research?

@Wilson_the_Mannequin

2 жыл бұрын

@@ally11488 I answered your questions about climate change and weapons. If you would like to answer my questions, I'll answer your question.

@archyology

9 ай бұрын

Have you noticed that life expectancy went down recently?

I hate to say this, but Chomsky's comments on Better Angels of Our Nature make it clear that he hasn't read the book. Pinker anticipates and addresses each of those objections rather thoroughly.

Nathan J!

The acoustics in the room were really bad for record. Hard for old people like me hear.

Chomsky understands that words like progress and Progressive politics demand definition.

*HELPFUL EXTRACT* from: *Lexicography of the Utterances of Noam Chomksy* 1. adjective: se·ri·ous /ˈsɪərɪəs/ (as in, "serious scholarship") definition. academic work agreeing with Chomsky's own views. 2. adjective: un·se·ri·ous/ˈsɪərɪəs/ (as in, "unserious scholarship") definition. academic work disagreeing with Chomsky's own views.

Love that lamp!

It would be better to see Steven Pinker talking about Noam Chomsky. Thomas Sowell talks about Noam Chomsky and he’s correct.

I really want to watch this.. but the interviewers sniffling is getting on my last nerve.

@Muykle

3 жыл бұрын

watch Zizek then.

@bustamoveorelse

3 жыл бұрын

Fuck sake, I never notice that type of things until someone makes me aware of it. You ruined it for me too

@bigbluefrog

3 жыл бұрын

@@bustamoveorelse ...sorry 'bout that!

@bigbluefrog

3 жыл бұрын

I also have misophonia... so there's that

@bigbluefrog

3 жыл бұрын

@@Muykle ...why.. does he use ASL?

The problem today is still authoritarianism. With the rise of science came a clash between scientific freethinkers and the religous leaders holding on their power. Throughout the middle ages, the feudalist system and the hierarchy of the church kept everyone on their place. The top down structure of centralized power remained on the form of economics and the state (trickle down). What changed was man conquered nature. In its place is man struggling against man for tge right to determine the future of the human race. That is why, coupled to the mulitppe uses of scientific technology, wars have become more extent and far more violent. Individualism turned into hyperindividualism, because capitalism demands the constant attainment and expansion of profit through resources, which are limited. It is more interesting today. But more interesting does not mean better.

@karigrandii

Жыл бұрын

i can recommend the dawn of everything

@jessenowells2920

Жыл бұрын

Your conclusions suggest capitalism is the primary problem, not authoritarianism. 🤔

@scratchpenny

Жыл бұрын

@@jessenowells2920 Capitalism is just a system with tradeoffs like any other system. But the root cause of these problems is human nature. When has there been a political or economic system that didn't have similar issues with men striving for power and control?

NC is a walking example of confirmation bias. He adopted a world view 60 plus years ago and refuses to admit that any scholarship that challenges that view might be valid.

Why in first vide he sound like bale's batman?

I'm so glad Chomsky countered this corporate/colonial apologist.

@captaindavidwebb9394

5 жыл бұрын

>White people are so terrible. Muh colonialism. >Begs to live around White people in the current year.

@65minimom

5 жыл бұрын

josef k how dare you use a dispicable term like that!

@johnnonamegibbon3580

5 жыл бұрын

@Mustafa White people aren't rich simply because of colonialism. In fact there's some evidence it can hurt growth. Whites actually were always wealthier even before colonialism. There's an IQ difference between populations.

@MrCmon113

5 жыл бұрын

Last time I checked colonialism was in the past and abolished by the West as a result of pressure from within. That's precisely what Pinker is saying.

@captaindavidwebb9394

5 жыл бұрын

@ThisIsMyRealName White people can't be "Racist™" in our own White created nation. Now get off our White created internet.

I agree with Chomsky over Pinker. But people here take that to mean Pinker is wrong about everything. He isn't. He just thinks that people are violent by nature. lol That's it. I don't.

@johnnonamegibbon3580

5 жыл бұрын

@@anthonybrett No. He thinks people are warlike by their nature, and I disagree on that. That's different from murder rates, which we suspect are partially genetic.War is murder on a mass scale. I'm skeptical we evolved to do that.

@Nirmav_Nirmav

5 жыл бұрын

@@johnnonamegibbon3580 I don't mean to insult you, but saying that murder and violence are genetic, by lines of "European" and non "European" is objectively racist. I don't know if you mean to subjugate or patronize people of whom you believe to have worse genes or not. But either way, it's a very blunt way to think.

@Nirmav_Nirmav

5 жыл бұрын

@@johnnonamegibbon3580 The term racist refers to people with the ideology of racism, which is just another ideology. You can argue that racism is a true ideology and that you are therefore right, but not that is doesn't exist. One of the attributes of racism is to falsely apply Darwins theory of evolution on phenomena which are caused by human society. Also to create a binary of inherently inferior and superior groups of people, especially to legitamize hierachies or violence (like for example capital punishment). Chomsky is certainly aware that social behaviours such as murder are not influenced by any genetic changes in the last 10,000 years.

@johnnonamegibbon3580

5 жыл бұрын

@@Nirmav_Nirmav ???? Well, if IQ differs it just does. I've never heard him deny IQ, just say that it isn't everything.

@Nirmav_Nirmav

5 жыл бұрын

@@johnnonamegibbon3580 I don't see what some test has to do with the supposed murder gene.

Why are so many 12 year old boys interviewing Noam Chomsky. I just say another video where the guy interviewed him about Zizac (?) and he was completely moronic. They don't ask content questions - they ask "what did you think about this person?" That's not an intellectual question.

I feel like we could invent perfectly tuned AI, relieve the need for everyone in society to work, solve world hunger, and erradicate diseases off the face of the planet, all the while our national leaders could have their fingers over the buttons of nuclear bombs pointed at one another and Noam would still say, "progress hasn't really been made". Just because we developed the abiliry to end our own existence, it doesn't mean things aren't getting better.

Unfortunately Chomsky is not an evolutionary biologist so his old cringe worthy analyses that he still promotes do not hold up in view of all the exciting research being done today. I was a follower of Chomsky during my university days in the 70's. He had something to offer. It's just the same old thing that he talks about now.

@zachflame123

5 жыл бұрын

if you "followed" him you clearly never comprehended his message. He's also practically a hundred years old. Not sure what you expect of him. Pinker will never reach his level of insight or global influence and honestly I think it peeves him.

@lazarus2993

2 жыл бұрын

​@@zachflame123 Stumbled onto your comment so I have to respond so anyone else isn't poisoned by your reductive opinions. You say he's practically a hundred years old and imply that therefore we can't hold him accountable for his bad takes in fields in which he has no clue what he is talking about. Do you think we can reduce any of his marxist or anti-capitalist beliefs to "He's just old, he doesn't know any better."? You also equate the global influence and "insight" to what is essentially a charade of a popularity contest. No one outside the field of Linguistics or Psychology would know Chomsky's name if it wasn't for his criticisms of the western dogma. In contrast, Steven Pinker knows to stick to the field in which his expertise is most beneficial; instead of parading as a champion of the people, co-signing mass genocides on the count of "the encroachments of the west".

@zachflame123

2 жыл бұрын

@@lazarus2993 Pinker is a linguist abd cognitive scientist. Just like Chomsky. Your comments are a non sequitor. And my comments by no means were restricted to age. This was a parenthetical comment.

@zachflame123

2 жыл бұрын

@@lazarus2993 you say "Marxist" as if it's an insult. Pity.

It's not the audio it's Chomsky.He alway's sounds like he's half dead.

@havefunbesafe

Жыл бұрын

True, but his content is is always spot on.

Are Chomsky’s hands real hands?

@Eddieshred

3 жыл бұрын

I have wondered the same myself

in short: Chomsky doesn't like pinker because pinkers facts clash with chomskys grievance studies.

Chomsky vs Pinker as the undercard debate to the upcoming Zizek vs Peterson debate

@krapfantasy

5 жыл бұрын

Haha yes, been saying the same thing

@krapfantasy

5 жыл бұрын

Sadly Pinker seems quite nervous, I fear he'd lose the debate on the wrong grounds.

What does moral progress mean? just the recognition of something like human rights or their actual protection by judicial systems? if individual rights are protected by modern judicial systems where they weren't before (say in the U.S., ancient Rome, or anywhere else if you were a slave or hunter-gatherer societies) doesn't that also imply an improvement in the standard of living? Also, the average life span of a human in hunter-gatherer societies is something like 30 years old. is it trivial that many humans today can enjoy the likely prospect of living into their 80's and 90's? I love big Noam, but time and again it seems like he argues from his first principle of capitalism/the west=bad, and then makes his case around his most central tenet, and doesn't seem to seriously question the tenet itself. It's help given birth to a kind neo-religiosity on the left I think. He's a brilliant apologist for his view, but in his works of political science and philosophy lacks the serious truth-seeking ethic. His tireless defense over the years of his "little black box" also shows his religious fervor i think, although there's a good chance he might be right about that.

@emilianosintarias7337

3 жыл бұрын

I disagree. I think he is trying to argue against a simple minded claim. He would agree and has said that life is improving, in fact he just said it did right here, for a century no less. He just thinks it mostly due to social and and technological advances. He also cautions that to the extent we mix these advances with old problems like empire, classes, and states, we create a contradictory situation that may imperial the gains. In other words, his view is fairly nuanced.

Humanity Needs Reason Over Religion's Epidemic & Opium.

@davidd854

Жыл бұрын

Humanity needs meaning

@CH-wm6wo

5 ай бұрын

@@davidd854well said

Complexity reduction of emergency

I still think Pinker’s work is useful when describing what happened to enlightenment progress since the 1970s.

@fuckfannyfiddlefart

5 жыл бұрын

Pinker is great if you are happy with state capitalist hegemonic global neo-imperialism, otherwise you world realise he is a total scumbag apologist who is commendable and only terrorised by the most privileged to rationalize their own happy wealth

@joethompson8609

5 жыл бұрын

@@fuckfannyfiddlefart My guess is you haven't read his books... Am I right?

@scioarete7987

5 жыл бұрын

I think it's just simulation and nostalgia

The intellectual gymnastics by those determined to be pessimistic is astounding

@cool_sword

5 жыл бұрын

Hardly. The world is heading towards climate catastrophe which will be horrific even if we meet international goals. The only way to not be pessimistic about that (and I would argue that overrides all other concerns) is to have some mystical conception of progress and technology as some benevolent god which will save us in the nick of time. That requires mental gymnastics.

@Confucius_76

5 жыл бұрын

No, it just requires that you not give in to panic and fear. Yes, there will be some chaos in the future, but the human race will survive. The main problem will be the massive influx of refugees from the third world. The young people of today are far less racist than older people, so the future shouldn't be too catastophic in regards to race wars

@098vladik098

8 ай бұрын

We barely survived a potential nuclear war, we live under survaillance capitalism and the climate is headin fast towards a disaster. A huge economic crisis is never ruled out. These are serious problems. We see no progress there. What you guys mention are bonuses. Like nice and cool little smartphones. It's a nice bonus when you know you're not headed towards a point of no return when it comes to the climate crisis or nuclear devastation. These are serios problems which are not taken seriously. The metaverse is nice indeed however. Have fun there

Oh snap

The smart phone? LOL….You mean that device that millions of people use to disengage from real discourse with another real human being? Are you are referring to that device that people use to purchase meaningless junk off the internet, or to engage in sophomoric social media exchanges? Of all the things you could mention…a ‘smart’ phone is what stands out? LOL

@Richard_Straker

Жыл бұрын

He referred to it as a 'frill', has your attention span been destroyed by TikTok?

@michaelbodine9240

Жыл бұрын

@@Richard_Straker I don’t watch TikTok, smart ass. And I was not referring to Noam.

Did anyone here actually read the correspondence between Sam Harris and Chomsky? Chomsky simply refused to have a reasonable discussion. At Harris's suggestion that the US may have acted out of ignorance and not malevolence, Chomsky just folded his arms and said no, that's impossible. And that was the end of it. Not very intellectual of him... Chomsky gives important insights into media and foreign policy, but he's so steeped in bias it's difficult to parse what's being said in good faith. Every book he writes on foreign policy has lines like "the capitalist monsters were at it again, torturing the civilian population for fun." I know the US has done some pretty horrific things, but when you demonize only one of the actors, you sully the issue.

@tonybanks1035

5 жыл бұрын

raharu000 Sam Harris is intellectually a bug next to Chomsky.

@raharu000

5 жыл бұрын

@@tonybanks1035 No offense, but you need to pull your head out of your ass, fanboy... It wasn't a dick wagging contest, it was a discussion. And Chomsky couldn't even grant Harris the possibility that the US may have acted out of ignorance, even for discussion's sake... Think about that. That's not reasonable discourse. That's the intellectual equivalent of plugging your ears and shouting I'm right, you're wrong.

@zachflame123

5 жыл бұрын

I'm going to go ahead and guess you've actually never read a book by Chomsky but just watched KZread clips. If you have read a book, it's one of his newer books intended for teenagers or low-information citizens, like 'How the World Works''. If you read his books from the late 80s and 90s, you find hundreds and hundreds of citations, dense arguments, stylish writing, wide-ranging familiarity with world events, and multi-disciplinary approaches.

@MassDefibrillator

4 жыл бұрын

So I just read it after seeing this. It seems to me that it was Harris who just folded their arms and stopped engaging. Harris couldn't help but continually comment on Chomsky's impatient tone, rather than actually engage his mountain of points and questions. Harris effectively ends the conversation with "I don't like your tone, so I'm not going to engage you". Possibly the most anti-intellectual out you could ever pull. Personally, I understand Chomsky's lack of patience here. Harris' inability to differentiate between real and professed intentions, and unwillingness to engage with Chomsky's career of differentiating between them, would annoy anyone.

@22kataking

3 жыл бұрын

He's a turd. Read his exchange with George Monbiot, mind-blowing.

Steven Pinker is a new and shittier version of Herbert Spencer, prove me wrong

@zachflame123

5 жыл бұрын

one correction, I'd say. Spencer didn't mind suffering or destruction. Pinker at least pretends to care.

Terrible audio

flip phone > smart phone

Don't think Chomsky read Pinker's book.

One of the strange things about Pinker‘s point of view is that it is often identical to real Marxist historical materialism. Meaning Marx predicted that capitalism would increase material conditions in a revolutionary way. But unlike Marx, Pinker’s conclusion is therefore we ought to stop complaining because we live in the best of all possible worlds. Marx made a different conclusion that the rise of material conditions coupled with the inherent contradictions in capitalism will make the inherent inequalities of capitalism more apparent than ever and necessitate a shift into socialism. Of course I prefer many modern things, and I would rather be poor now than in the year 1800, but the inequalities have become both apparent and absurd to such a degree that I think it is apparent that most of the governed don’t consent to the ruling authorities whether government or corporate. And the only way to continue the farce is to increase the propaganda so we continue to live in a fake world. So I think we have now reached an impasse that Marx predicted, what comes next is not known. I don’t think it will be anything like what Marx imagined, and I hope for real visionary change rather than barbarism. But we can’t go much further than the farcical reality we live in now.

@JMoore-vo7ii

Жыл бұрын

Hi, I know it has been almost a year since you left this comment but I've transcribed this into my reading notes and I am wondering how to cite you? Is your username and the name of this video enough? I like to give credit where it is due Great analysis btw

How is this guy still alive

Chomsky once went on the alex jones show infowars..very odd

@solaria5513

4 жыл бұрын

How is that "very odd"?

@robertpirsig5011

4 жыл бұрын

He will talk to anyone! I wrote him an email and he responded.

I watched a video of Pinker discussing Chomsky and it was one of the most embarrassingly dishonest, biased and uncharitable expositions I have had the misfortune of listening to, making me doubt the sincerity and intellectual honesty of Pinker.

iphones (smart phones) are frills and have had a dubious impact? I love Chomsky but that is seriously out of touch.

@MazBringsby

4 жыл бұрын

Rather than denying it . I would pause and reflect on the context in which he is making the statement. The problem with people on KZread is that they hardly think before they respond in the comment peanut gallery He refers to 'the intellectual life' which is in decline

@robertpirsig5011

4 жыл бұрын

Yes the iPhone is a frill compared with many more vital and early innovations like in door plumbing. Go to a slum in India were the people are popping penicillin like Smarties to avoid infection because of open sewage. This has had the biggest impact on human longevity. The iPhone takes photos and can call people and find places when your lost. But wouldn't call it vital in terms of human civilization.

@jes3788

4 жыл бұрын

In comparison to indoor plumbing, absolutely. I would much rather give up a smartphone than running water and a functional toilet, it's barely a competition

@cristianion2056

4 жыл бұрын

@Quantum Decoherence SMARTHPHONE CAN BE USED TO FIND A JOB. TO BUY A TICHET PLANE. TO buy and sell things.

@tonron888

3 жыл бұрын

Paul thronson you are an idiot lol.

But the Enlughtenment didn't actually look to gay and woman's rights.

Eh... Chomsky says progress stalled in 1970. Lots of people around the world would disagree with that, I think. You can't judge everything by the relative state of the American middle class, right?

I can never understand what Noam Chomsky is saying.

Pinker has a clearer perspective then Noam

@Paul-pj5qu

5 жыл бұрын

Chomsky is arrogant, we is afraid to lower himself. To dismiss someone like Pinker with "there is serious work being done" as a way of saying this guy can't be taken seriously, that is arrogant.

@auditoryproductions1831

5 жыл бұрын

@Agnaye Ochani Chomsky gives his own personal perspective (which is valuable no doubt) but he is clearly biased. Anyone who sais living in the Hunter Gatherer times of human kind was more peaceful and pleasant then living in modern first world society is borderline insane. For most of human history it was common for woman to die during child birth and babies died of starvation and/or disease before they were 3. The average life expectancy has tripled since our hunter gatherer times. Thinking we are worse off now then our ancestors (at nearly any point in time) is so out of wack that it's hard to take anything Chomsky sais seriously at all after hearing him say that. And this is coming from someone who generally likes Chomsky. I liked Chomsky more in the past but I have heard him say a few things that are so obviously wrong that it borders on crack pottery.

@denverbritto5606

5 жыл бұрын

A true believers mind has little room for doubt.

@killa3x

5 жыл бұрын

@Agnaye Ochani nope. Pinker does. Much better. Chomsky doesn't even write anymore, just makes 10 min talks. 2x 600 pg books on the topic by pinker. Also it's not pinker's data. It's just him presenting the data. He isn't making up the data. To disprove pinker provide better data that shows otherwise. Pinker will change his mind if data shows otherwise.

@mattfirman3877

5 жыл бұрын

@Agnaye Ochani Are you serious? He makes the claim that we were somehow morally better when we were living in hunter/gatherer societies than when we started to develop into complex societies. I'm sorry, but I can't accept the idea that we were more cognitively developed to handle different people and different opinions, especially when those opinions literally meant life or death since many decisions in those days determined your survival. He's a digressive intellectual and a huge pessimist, which is absolutely dangerous in our time, today. It reminds me of what the famous psychologist, Viktor Frankl who wrote, "Man's Search for Meaning". He was a Holocaust survivor who said that when people are that close to death, the ones who latch on to hope and meaning are the ones who are the most likely to survive. Steven Pinker is trying to instill hope and optimism for a generation that's tasked to save the World from Climate Change. Noam is telling everyone we're fucked. Of course, we have problems, but it's not gonna help if we feel hopeless. Steven Pinker is showing us that we made significant progress, which means we can overcome these new challenges if we remain hopeful and vigilant. And even if I'm wrong, I'd rather die trying to do something positive for humanity than to die sitting on the sidelines telling all the optimists they're wrong. It's just a dick move, honestly...

Chomsky is in his dotage.

@NOTFORNUT

Жыл бұрын

there's zero evidence of that. Just an ad hominem from a gentleman like you, I would add "intelligent gentleman" too but there's no evidence to that either

More intellectuals like Chomsky need to publicly correct "intellectuals" like Pinker.

@65minimom

5 жыл бұрын

Tara Fitzgerald Sure, name 5 in US who rival Chomsky's intelligence & ability to communicate? Perhaps, you could watch Chris Hedges on "On Contact" weekly? The real question is how many people are intelligent enough to listen & comprehend? Judging from comments, not many. (FYI I think he did just publicly criticize Pinker!)

@sullivansongz

5 жыл бұрын

On the one hand I agree on the other the guy saw a gap in the market for a book like that so...

@bcshu2

5 жыл бұрын

Lets hear your rebuttal to Pinkers material in the book. Have you bothered to read it? Where is the data incorrect?

@tarafitzgerald3947

5 жыл бұрын

Sure. Multiple academics have called him out for using $2 a day statistic as an arbitrary figure that cannot give a clear picture of world poverty. If baseline is increased to $5 a day the upward trend reverses. Latch Pritchard, a Harvard economist, publicly criticized Pinker by saying the poverty level should be raised to $12 to $15 a day in order to get an accurate estimate of world poverty. With this statistical change, Pinker's argument completely fall apart. I suggest you take the time to read this scholarly article by Jason Hickel. www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/01436597.2015.1109439 While your at it, check out Hickel's direct rebuttal to Pinker here: twitter.com/jasonhickel/status/1032588789493858304?lang=en

@bcshu2

5 жыл бұрын

@@tarafitzgerald3947 I think you'd find that Pinker was the figure of $2 dollars as he took it from other sources as a good indicator. Those are the individual that would have to be rebutted there. Nevertheless, your principle is that his selection process for that figure was erroneous. He's overarching point he was alluding to is hard to discount, more people in very specific regions of the world, for very specific reasons have seen increased standards of living, the likes of which has not been witnessed before.

Chomsky probably has a strong smell of book coming off of him.

@Ok-bk5xx

3 жыл бұрын

I think Steven pinker send to Noam Chomsky his book from his own hands

@MrGeedeebain

3 жыл бұрын

@@wordwarrior2350 is this a question, statement or butt typing? It very hard to differentiate when you write like a troglodyte.

Pinker has the most ad hoc arguments. The problem with Pinker it's not that is profoundly biased methodologicaly, you can read Nassim Taleb for that. Something that Pinker's fans are completely unaware. The problem is that he and others don't understand the nature of inequality, and don't realize that it's hardwired in most of the politics, economical, political rhetoric. For instance also how "license softwares" increase digital divide gap, among generations and other population stratifications, while increse the privilage of otherst. They only advocate for a status quo, comforting the privileged with ultra ad hoc stats.

@redryan20000

5 жыл бұрын

Inequality is hard-wired? Okay, so where does equality ever get to come in?

@MrCmon113

5 жыл бұрын

What in the world is an "ad hoc stat"? I'd rather live in a house while my neighbour lives in a palace than both of us living in a barrel. But I guess that's just inconceivable to someone operating under envy-ethics.

@Confucius_76

5 жыл бұрын

Boo fucking hoo. Stay sad and angry then you dumb leftist

@Followthesciences

5 жыл бұрын

I think it's interesting you use the term hard-wired when talking about inequality. It isn't the systems. The biology creates the system. The competitiveness creates these 'unequal' systems. Good luck changing or fixing our biology to create your utopian vision

Is this the same Chomsky who said the non vaccinated should have been isolated in camps for refusing that jab...? 🎵🤡🎶🤡🎵

I’m not sure doing a shit ton of coke is good prep for an interview.

Anyone else wonder if that first interviewer is on coke or something?

@zachflame123

5 жыл бұрын

I thought at one point he was actually going to vomit

@Blowmontana707

4 жыл бұрын

Probably adderall

Smart Phones are frills in comparison to plumbing.... Tell that to the people in the developing world who have smartphones and no plumbing and spotty electricity. Smart phones are changing the world pretty radically.

@ZacharyBittner

5 жыл бұрын

Not in an objectively positive way. Also, when you have to pick between plumbing, electricity, and smart phones. You're going to pick plumbing and electricity.

@johnnonamegibbon3580

5 жыл бұрын

That seems pretty silly. Having a smart phone won't make your life any better if you have no food or plumbing.

@ZacharyBittner

5 жыл бұрын

@@johnnonamegibbon3580 arguable having a smart phone isn't making your life better now.

@65minimom

5 жыл бұрын

jdrubin89 Iphones are just like a toilet a fixture for comfort, not the plumbing system! You still have to bury your own sh--. You tell people sh---ing in the dirt in the rain, getting diseases, filth...Stench is less important than their smart phone. Smart phones are for dumb people who have forgotten they are a functional TOOL for easy access to information,compiling / organizing data & confirming appts, google, business of life texts Just like a toilet wi a big sewer cloud in space lol They are not a subsitutes for teachers, family, friends, social interaction, learning OR reading books, making art or music. Listen again to what Chomsky says about them. Then read one of Donald Trump's tweets. Pick your role model:) I'm a former teacher so I already have a solid education which kids today are not getting! Talk to a high school kid, ask them questions about the Classics (books, music & art) BAN phones from schools. Of course, I am using a computer, Kindle & Android phone but it's not my life. I'm an artist. People are smarter than their phones.

@twells138

5 жыл бұрын

@@65minimom A smart Phone is a tool to the collective knowledge of human civilization. I'd say its comparable to plumbing.

It's as if certain advocates for the state avoid the inconvenient history of authoritarian statist all together. When Steven Pinker says "Where would you have rather lived? West Germany, or East Germany?". And everyone says West Germany, it's because they know entrepreneurs don't inherently equate to monopolistic robber barons. Choice is the difference here, why does this have to be repeatedly explained to socialist?

@fede2

4 жыл бұрын

I think I missed the part in the clip when Chomsky said "I worship the State and authority"...

Chomsky was great 50 years ago.

@michaelwright8896

Жыл бұрын

No he wasn't.

@MS-fg8qo

Жыл бұрын

@@michaelwright8896 You're right. He still is.

@michaelwright8896

Жыл бұрын

@@MS-fg8qo You'd be surprised.

I want to hear his views on Ronnie Pickering

Noam just strawmanned the fuck out of Pinker's work in The Better Angels of our Nature.