Government is not a solution to our problem, government is the problem. ... Government does not solve problems; it subsidizes them. Government's view of the economy could be summed up in a few short phrases: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. If it stops moving, subsidize it. ... The problem is not that people are taxed too little, the problem is that government spends too much. Ronald Reagan

@Kwesekara1672

Жыл бұрын

I agree wholeheartedly. Governments have become corrupt, inept, unrepresentative, unreliable, untrustworthy & an enemy of the people.

@joeking1019

Жыл бұрын

spends too much on everything wrong

@lalaholland5929

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for that quote!

@hubristicmystic

Жыл бұрын

Excellent. And to complete the cycle "The formation of a Central Bank is 90% of the communization of a country". Vladimir Lenin. P.S. I'm a conservative kiwi and I can say I'm deeply ashamed of our government and the obscenely stupid majority of our "adult" population that voted for and STILL support them, despite all the harm they've wrought with their woke incompetence. Why? Because they hand out taxpayer cash and spout all the right PC woke language that cowards love to hear. NZ is doomed if they get voted in again.

@Jim-tn3hl

Жыл бұрын

18 year old thinking the same thing really sad the systems so bad at solving problems

Cheap reliable energy is a basic right & a necessity and should be available to all Australians, especially as we have abundant coal & gas. Instead we are shipping it off overseas while we struggle with unreliable, inefficient & increasingly expensive renewables. Make sense to you?

@Stacker-qt3sv

Жыл бұрын

Tidal generation pools.... tide comes in 2x a day, goes out 2x a day, so you budget the waterflow and have power for free 24/7/365.

@hubristicmystic

Жыл бұрын

@@Stacker-qt3sv There's a thing called a "storm" that sends f#cking great big things called "waves" at your fancy tidal generators. And if the waves don't f#ck your fancy tide generators up outright of course the sea is made of a thing called "salt water" which corrodes the f#ck out of everything it touches, so your tidal generators have to be made of super expensive materials that still need replacing regularly. Just like the wind turbine blades they bury bc they can't be recycled. And finally how is this useful to the good folks in Alice Springs?

@hubristicmystic

Жыл бұрын

Yes it makes sense, it's called "the great rest" and it's based on Saul Alinski's "8 steps to communism". Our enemies are concentrating at the top of our society.

@Kwesekara1672

Жыл бұрын

@@hubristicmystic Most people have swallowed the climate change koolade. So now we’re being sent back to the Stone Age while eg: China powers up on our coal & gas and we buy their useless expensive wind turbines & solar panels. We can’t make weapons with which to defend ourselves because we’ve lost all our manufacturing & industry to mostly China. All planned, but most people are too complaisant & dumb to see it. Especially our inept politicians. China is poised to grab our coal, gas, iron ore etc., and we’ve hardly a pop gun to defend ourselves. All these brainwashed useful idiots’ pushing this Marxist ideology down our throats will be forced to live under it too. Maybe then they’ll wake up--too late.

Clean burning coal plants can add downdraft smoke stacks and give us really, really cheap cleaner energy. There is a new type steam generator that makes over three times more torque, from the same 2,300 pound steam and volume, that today produces four megawatts of energy per hour. So, a steam generator that powered the four megawatts could now turn three four megawatt generators, giving us twelve megawatts per hour, per SSTG replaced. A coal plant that made 150 megawatts could end up giving us 450 megawatts per hour from the same steam pressure and volume the old plant used. Cleaner exhaust smoke and three times the energy, will give Australia new life, way cheaper than either wind and solar!

@pixnstix

Жыл бұрын

It's not about pollution. That is the excuse sold the weak-minded greenies to get people to accept destruction of cheap energy production. It's about destroying Western economies, Western society.

@lucykelly7152

Жыл бұрын

This sounds great! Maybe we should do this! I'm just concerned about the effects of coalmines on the environment! I don't want them to harm nature!

@edwardbec9844

Жыл бұрын

@@lucykelly7152 Take a look at the Harm Solar Wind farms do from the amount of land required to the natural environment not to mention the mining manufacturing infrastructure required . if its still listed . take a look at Michael Moores Documentary "" Planet of the Humans "" it is an eye opener

@lucykelly7152

Жыл бұрын

@@edwardbec9844 I will. Thank you!

"The largest power producers in China have asked the government to allow for the development of between 300 and 500 new coal power plants by 2030..." and you, Alan, are labelled some sort of pariah because you ask the question "Why can't Australia build one or two? " .. I spend every evening at the Club because I can't afford to heat my home ....

@DarkSlayer010

4 жыл бұрын

flowering passions And they call this the “Lucky Country”! Lucky for who??

@floweringpassions7462

4 жыл бұрын

@@DarkSlayer010 ..... was .... the lucky country, lol ...

@peetsnort

4 жыл бұрын

The Chinese have lost millions of lives with coal pollution. They don't advertise the fact

@tootellustraight

4 жыл бұрын

Howard Petterson bullshit artist

@floweringpassions7462

4 жыл бұрын

@@peetsnort good point, how may extra lives if they proceed with the new ones ....

To the Australian "normal" people. Continue fighting this leftist insanity. Cheers from the states...

4 жыл бұрын

Quiet down you filthy animal.

@shanevonharten3100

4 жыл бұрын

And good luck with your battles with the lefnazis in the states my friend

@waynevenz3701

4 жыл бұрын

thanks Jeff

@blank.9301

4 жыл бұрын

Jeff Raines butt out! AMeRiCAnt

@jeffraines414

4 жыл бұрын

@@blank.9301 FU from America

Mean while in Canada they impose a carbon tax....as the consistent train loads of coal roll to Vancouver harbor on the way to China?

@wayneballintine9532

4 жыл бұрын

And by canada has there carbon tax it doesnt reduce carbon its all a big scam hoax and lie that humans cause climate change and carbon we had a carbon tax here in australia done by the fuckd gillard labor goverment and in the election Tony Abott said he will scrap tge carbon tax if tge libs nats coalition win the election back in 2015 and they did and scrapped tge gullard labour goverment carbon tax any way carbon doesnt hurt any thing with out carbon in tge atmpsphere crops plants trees absorb it out the atmosphere to grow ther more carbon the better tge more high yeilding crops will grow ect ect

@alexhayden2303

4 жыл бұрын

The UK gov. already taxes industry to trade CARBONS. www.gov.uk/government/publications/carbon-emmisions-tax/carbon-emmisions-tax Not too far away: Indonesia builds massive power plant!

5 billion of subsidies for renewable energy could have been invested in technologies to increase the efficiency of coal fired power.

Correct ! Wind and solar energy is roughly 10 times more expensive than coal per KW produced. One of the main reasons; the cost of the back up !

Right now. Namurkah solar farm.. 61% output Griffith. 82% Bannerton 11% Wemen 7% Karadoc 9% Gannawarra 24% Parkes 7% Manildra 5% Beryl 9% Broken Hill 37% Coal stations. 110%

@kimweaver3323

4 жыл бұрын

And a blistering heat wave that is grinding ranchers and farmers into oblivion which is certainly being exacerbated by all that coal exhaust.

@michaelarnold417

4 жыл бұрын

@@kimweaver3323 You don't address the issue. And CO2 is NOT a problem. And the globe is cooling, not heating. We are in a grand solar minimum, leading to increased cloud formation, leading to fairly stark cooling. Watch reduced corn-yields from USA, Russia and China. Watch The Cloud Mystery, involving the work of Danish scientist Henrik Svensmark, work since confirmed/expanded by Japanese scientists.

@cremvirus

4 жыл бұрын

@@kimweaver3323 check Margaret thatcher 1980s , miners strike, the start of the ecci was the start of the hoax. Check it out, won't take you long. (hint) don't use go ogle.

@kimweaver3323

4 жыл бұрын

@@michaelarnold417 CO2 is THE problem. There is NO evidence for lower GAST. Grand solar minimums average a temperature change swing of less than 0.26C. over the span of decades . That would be completely drowned out by the GHG induced heating we are now experiencing. Now what "issue" do you want me to address, Sparky?

@michaelarnold417

4 жыл бұрын

@@kimweaver3323 You haven't done your homework, child. The GSM temperature difference will be only slight, that is true. But the magnetosphere of the sun changes A LOT, and will lead to a large increase in cosmic rays passing through our atmosphere, seeding lower-atmospheric clouds as they do. These will reflect away sunlight and lead to significant cooling. It has happened before, many times, and always brings about the same effect. Consider this: CO2 is distributed throughout the atmosphere. It does not collect in a stratospheric 'shell', like the ozone layer. It does not therefore 'reflect back' or 'hold' heat at night, when heat is lost to space in cloudless conditions. So where's it's 'greenhouse effect'? The greenhouse has no roof, the king wears no clothes. We have a huge problem coming down the line, but you can't see it coming due to your fascination with CO2-virtue candy-floss, and your showing off for grandma on the little coloured pony on the fairground CO2 carousel. It is very difficult to listen to an alternative opinion when you hold cognitive bias, but really, what harm can it do? Give it a go. You might learn something. Listen to the interesting link I suggested.

makes a joke of Australians power industry. Keep bring this up Alan, we have no one else we ca rely on.

@blank.9301

4 жыл бұрын

Stewart McIntyre Pretty sure our 30-40 year old coal fired power stations break down/cut out everyday. They don't talk about that di they, biasedness at its finest mate

@stewartmcintyre4431

4 жыл бұрын

Ryan VanGelder Australia doesn’t have black out except for South Australia and their renewable energy circus.

@blank.9301

4 жыл бұрын

Stewart McIntyre Lol, keep up, they haven't had one since the Tesla battery was installed. Works just fine. 👍

"Government" actually means "Control of the Mind"

Why should we pay carbon tax then?

@kimweaver3323

4 жыл бұрын

To constrain consumption. Worked for cigarettes.

@davidagiel8130

4 жыл бұрын

@@kimweaver3323 No it didn't, people still smoke. Constraning consumption isn't going to change the impact on the environment when coal is still the number one export, and petrol is still running cars. If they are not serious about change why bother at all. I moved from Australia and now I live in a country that doesn't have carebon tax, so I can do what I please... and if other countries can do as they please why sould Australians have to pay carbon tax? Just to make the elite richer...

@kimweaver3323

4 жыл бұрын

@@davidagiel8130 Oh, for fucks sake..... at one time in the US, more than half of the adults smoked, now it's fewer than a quarter. Sure, people will still buy it if it's available, but they are much more careful about just driving around for the hell of it. More people are taking public transit where it's available. We are closing in on our first light rail transit system here in Hawaii and it is much anticipated, since all of our fuel is shipped over 2200 miles and is much more expensive than the US mainland.

@crl157

4 жыл бұрын

@@kimweaver3323 Yeah if we want citizens to stop something just rob them, steal money from their families and just make their lives harder. If you think robbing people to force them to stop something is a healthy democracy then you need to fuck right off mate.

@kimweaver3323

4 жыл бұрын

@Trigger Troll That's the point, eventually kill the industry that is an omnicidal maniac killing the entire biosphere. The price of holding off extinction for a while longer.

Thank goodness for China and India increasing their CO2 missions. We are in a CO2 drought. More CO2 will mean more crops, and a healthier greener planet.

@mlmallory2780

Жыл бұрын

Agree, we need a truth in advertising push to make them admit that it is carbon dioxide they are trying to get rid of instead of carbon which throws people off.

NZ needs a lot more media like this.

@MrRasZee

4 жыл бұрын

I know...how dare they tell it straight...i half expect them to get shut down for telling the truth?

Businesses are welcome in the United States. We have inexpensive energy, a reliable work force, no incomprehensible Industrial Awards to deal with. Plus real estate is affordable.

@davidverster9523

4 жыл бұрын

Its totally unbelievable how dumb the Australian politicians are...particularly those on the left...and the ones on the right are gutless and do not confront those on the left...we wish Alan Jones was the prime minister....

@ThekiBoran

4 жыл бұрын

I'm in California, we have problems with socialism as well.

@threecreationleather6596

4 жыл бұрын

@@davidverster9523 ...it's not Australian politicians - it's leftist politicians. They are present in every country - and a danger to every country. The leftist are working together globally and have out together the most effective propaganda machine ever created.

@chriskennedy7534

4 жыл бұрын

That explains why, for e.g. apple, musk motors etc etc etc are moving production over seas !

@threecreationleather6596

4 жыл бұрын

@@chriskennedy7534 .... look at how many companies are opening plants - there are always exceptions to a rule or trend - millions of NEW jobs created, millions of promotions. Look at the job listings for any US city they tell the story.

Taking power stations offline without any means of replacement is sheer stupidity.

Coal based energy will remain " the cheapest " with our current technology. The most expensive is "stored energy" & that will remain so for decades to come. Solar & Wind based energy is too intermittent to be efficient or reliable on the Grid and if used as based load power ; the "overall cost" of power factor correction for Renewables is the downside. The greatest Scam in Australia is the residential " subsidy " for installing "roof top solar".! The Government pays out an amount to home owners to install solar by contributing a large percentage of cost - making the solar option affordable. Everyone is surcharged extra on their electrical bill to pay for this scheme , that represents absolute discrimination.!!!! The lower socioeconomic levels of society are Renters that cannot avail themselves of this solar subsidy as a tenant. However , these poor Renters have to pay for the extra on their electrical bill to help the home owners get their Solar.? Australia, is one of the most expensive for electrical bills & the users that can least afford it ; are screwed the most... They say Power corrupts & " green movements " denigrating Coal fired Energy ; has certainly led to a corrupt consequence. Make no mistake ; the price of Electricity has also driven away manufacturers & many Jobs ; that represents a crime...

Politicians are not there to think they are there to fill there own pockets not there intelligence.

Mt Sinabung, Sumatra, Indonesia in 24 hours, December 2018, emitted more greenhouse gases than the calculated man-made gases from 1850 to December 2018. Climate change is driven by cycles of the sun, not by man-made gases or emissions from live-stock.

Paying for a remedy to a problem for over 40 years and the problem is worse, is a perfect example of a scam. Now they need more money to make the problem worse, the world is sleepwalking to a complete nightmare..!

Coal is all good.

@kimweaver3323

4 жыл бұрын

You are all crazy.

@kimweaver3323

4 жыл бұрын

@charles And destroyed fishing in rural streams and rivers as the planet-eaters push the tops of mountains into the surrounding valleys. And entire river systems being flooded, destroying beautiful terrain and homes along rural rivers, as well as being contaminated beyond recovery by highly toxic coal ash The aerosol emissions of coal plants provides some attenuation in the heating we are experiencing, at the small cost of rapidly increasing CO2 and therefore higher equilibrium temperature, increased black carbon darkening ice and land and increasing surface heating and rapid acidification of the land and sea and the subsequent destruction of the marine food chain.

@peetsnort

4 жыл бұрын

@Matamoros. It is not the co2 but the pollutants in coal that kills.

@peetsnort

4 жыл бұрын

@@kimweaver3323 Yes it's cocktail of bad chemicals in burning coal that kills. Even the victorians in London knew that coal kills and banned coal fired home fires

@peetsnort

4 жыл бұрын

@Matamoros You have to start somewhere. I am not a luddite but you can steer industry by at least scrubbing the smoke from coal of the very bad chemicals. But this is the dilemma. It costs

And nobody has suggested they can, we just need to transition as fast as possible.

There is no way Renewable is better for the environment. Think about it. I'll explain if you can't figure out.

@christopherwarner3219

4 жыл бұрын

I have figured it out. First get the number 1 renewable in the world ( my renewable energy prototype ) . No more worries !!

@VenomousCompany

4 жыл бұрын

@Dave N Good for you. Doesn't make it better for the environment though.

Thank you for speaking the truth.

we don't even have the battery tech to compare renewables to coal. There's no basis for comparison.

Fact check: “Hazelwood was shutdown by the Victorian Labor government.” False. The Hazelwood power station was privatised during the Kennett government years and later decommissioned by the current owners. There was no closure of this station by the Victorian government

@kimbo99

Жыл бұрын

Instead of "by" read "during" a Labour gov which presided over the closure. Happily did nothing. In fact likely blessed the closure. Literalism must be kept under check.

My god man, how did things get this out of hand?

@MrRasZee

4 жыл бұрын

luckily Trump started the wake up

Henry Ford said when he was facing opposition from skeptics if we had of asked people what they want would have said a faster horse.

So, this is the Australian equivalent of Fox News?

@masterwong1133

4 жыл бұрын

So in other words, actual journalism.

@ufewl

4 жыл бұрын

It is true, that is all that matters. They are creating massive poverty, hitting the poorest hardest. Does that please you happy?

@allgoo1964

4 жыл бұрын

@@ufewl says: "It is true, that is all that matters. They are creating massive poverty, hitting.." == What is true? What is creating the poverty?

@johngeier8692

4 жыл бұрын

A massive multi-trillion dollar fraud based upon gross exaggeration of man’s effect on the climate and total neglect of the beneficial effects of raising atmospheric carbon dioxide levels.

@gcastles3289

4 жыл бұрын

Yep, owned by the same corporation, and the market is basically the same people who want to be told that they are right and science is wrong and no amount of reason and logic could change their minds about that.

If everyone used 12 volt solar would far out perform coal. Nearly all appliances can be purchased now in 12 volt format. Domestically that is.

@cindytepper8878

4 жыл бұрын

No, just no. Decreasing voltage increases current. I2R losses would go up exponentially

@aussiegypsy6273

4 жыл бұрын

Ever heard of an inverter?

Man made global warming is a lie to achieve the following outcomes plus: 1. Western industrialists moved their factories to eastern countries to take advantage of cheap labour. Then found that western technology could quickly overcome the cheap labour advantage. The answer was to add additional costs to western production processes to nullify the technology advantages. So the co2 carbon threat was dreamed up and carbon credit costs added to the western production processes making them less competitive when compared to the east. Killing competition from innovative middle and working classes 2. By killing competition the ruling elite create gradually growing poverty sectors that then come to depend on government handouts and are then controlled by the elite. Etc. A gradual degradation of human populations into state dependency that is paid for by middle and working class taxes. Social engineering at its finest along with psychological programming to ‘save’ the planet which is believed only by the stupid.

@JonathanLoganPDX

4 жыл бұрын

@charles Well said. Looks like we stumbled upon a den of ignorant, uneducated, trolls...

@AleadaA

4 жыл бұрын

Leftists have sold us out to China and now all western nations who love Freedom are in a fight for our lives! We will never give up, we will win this battle and educate people as to what is really happening. Look up Cultural Marxism.

@JonathanLoganPDX

4 жыл бұрын

@@AleadaA you're not even making factual or logical sense. Richard Nixon the hardcore Republican conservative opened up China, Ronald Reagan the hardcore American conservative Foster relationships between businesses and America and Europe and China. George HW Bush former CIA director and hardcore United States conservative also helped open sign up for business with the United States. Walmart, the single largest retailer on the ground in America and whose five children are all among the top 20 wealthiest Americans, our Arch conservatives and are the ones to have opened up China for business by getting special deals between factories and Walmart. When you go into Walmart you will find something on the order of 70% of the goods in Walmart are made in China sometimes that ratio is even higher. And in case you haven't noticed it it is the left in America that has hated doing business with China. It is the liberal labor movement in America that is hated all the jobs going to China. It is not the conservatives who owned the businesses and have been making ungodly more profits because of business with China. You can sing the songs in point the fingers and say it's the leftists the leftist is the leftist! And frost the mouth and get all wrapped around the axle and blame everybody else. But it has been the conservatives who have unleash the unbridled business dragon that is China. Is the conservatives that have fed that dragon and bread that dragon and train that dragon to the beaver the rapacious capitalist monster that it is.

@JRobbySh

4 жыл бұрын

Global Warming is a part of the new paganism. Which thinks of the Planet as a living organism that is being wounded by us humans. They think that the solution is to reduce the number of humans to fit the lesser amount of energy available. Eden can regained, or as they put it, back to nature. Like the aborgines? A life unchanged over thousands of year?

Madness is madness no matter which way you look at it. I'm not suggesting that CO2 doesn't have less desirable side effects. It's just that they are insanely over stated compared to the immense benefits from having cheap, plentiful and reliable energy; fossil fuels.

@kirkkirkland7244

Жыл бұрын

Where does this lie that CO2 is a bad thing come from??? Doesn't everyone know that all our plants and trees live on CO2??? The more CO2 there is the greener the earth!!! They have lied about CO2 and now people actually believe it's a bad thing when it's actually a great thing!!!!

No, only in Australia does renewable energy make power bills higher. In pretty much every other country it has brought the cost of power down to below 5c kW/hr, and in some cases below 3c /kWhr. This is because once the wind turbines are turning and the solar panels installed, the wind does not charge for blowing, and the sun does not charge for shining. But mismanagement of the energy market has its costs, you are right there.

The maintenance of the wind mills will destroy australias energy.....factor that in....

@blank.9301

4 жыл бұрын

David Verster Lol, the maintenance of COaL power stations would cost more, they break down 3-4 times everyday

@keepitreal2902

4 жыл бұрын

Any evidence or data to support that claim?

Burn coal for christ sake. The plants need the CO2 !

@BelieveNoGod

4 жыл бұрын

@Al Pal There are people crazy enough, to think like that. 😔

@sreerajr6470

4 жыл бұрын

I am damn sure before coal, plants live without coal burn

@BelieveNoGod

4 жыл бұрын

@@sreerajr6470 Eh..... Plants need CO2 to live. Look it up !

@BelieveNoGod

4 жыл бұрын

@Al Pal I know. I just think there are some idiots, that don't understand anything, about where oxygen comes from.

@BelieveNoGod

4 жыл бұрын

@Al Pal Let me ask you.What do professional farmers do in their greenhouses ?

In my lifetime the percentage of CO2 in the Earth's Atmosphere has not changed at all, the primary figure is ,.04%

@blank.9301

4 жыл бұрын

Rob Edwards And you have a PPM counter on you to justify?!?

@tantiwahopak101

4 жыл бұрын

Hey Rob, you better pray it stays as it is.

@nubbynubs123

4 жыл бұрын

I doubt 0.04% of anything like co2 in our atmosphere could change the climate. What about the Sun?

@tantiwahopak101

4 жыл бұрын

@@nubbynubs123 say that to venus

@jeroen3657

4 жыл бұрын

@@tantiwahopak101 No that does not work like that, because our dominant ghg is water vapour. That is not the case on Venus. It is like an elephant is pushing a ball, but then the mouse joins in and the mouse says to the elephant ''oh boy, did we move that ball around'' The mouse = Co2 and the Elephant is water vapour.

We have so much uranium in Australia. Why we would not use nuclear power plants?

Seawater desalination plants can give us really cheap renewable green energy! For every dollar invested can give us hundreds times more energy than wind or solar energies! There is air scrubber tech that can clean the air used to power 150 megawatts of renewable green energy per hour, as they remove the carbons emitted from 100,000 vehicles per hour, 24 hours a day, 7 days a week and 365 days per year. You need to think about renewable energy, as seawater desalination can give us extreme amounts (7,500 megawatts of renewable green energy every hour) as they give you up to 300,000,000 gallons of freshwater per day. As a side benefit, they actually make fertilizer for your farmers, to grow better food crops!

On the radio they said there will be power outages in Victoria this summer.So im paying too much for a faulty service,who is going to pay for all the food in freezers this summer when the power goes out.us!

Australia need a Trump instead of Liberal talking head

@keepitreal2902

4 жыл бұрын

How are you feeling about Trump now? Coronavirus, 30million unemployed, society collapsin. Scott Morrison is a much better leader, saved us from that fate.

It's not even carbon shown coming out of those towers, it's steam.

Japan is increasing its number of coal-fired power stations by 35% Data from the J Meteorol Agency clearly indicate no significant deviation in monthly average temperatures between 1998 & 2018.

Why can’t we build Hydrogen power plants. Here in Victoria we have a CFMEU expensive desalination plant. Build a Hydrogen power plant next to that. Feed the fresh water from the desal plant into the Hydrogen plant. Clean electricity. Oh, that’s to hard to do. Oh, that doesn’t make sense. Or maybe build something that takes all the bullish-t gas that is omitted from our politicians mouths to power the country.

Your coal plants I would bet are clean coal plants which have much less pollution. My husband and I live in a eco- house, which has much more insulation than other homes and a R-40 roof which is more insulating in most home in the south. We have much less energy costs than our neighbors, by at least more than half! This is being used in some parts of France, i understand. I hope Australia gets more independent from other countries on all their needs, particularly independent from China. Love and regards from the USA!

Well, apart from the fact that iron ore was our biggest export earner at the time of this airing, the sentiment of Jonesy here has aged like milk...

Hey Australia. USA here. We have cheap coal as well. Come on over and buy some.

No way cheaper but going green is the future. Fortescue future industries is showing the way forward.

Co2 ,the gas of life. The world would die with out co2.

@kimweaver3323

4 жыл бұрын

Oxygen is the gas of life and the burning of fossil fuels has reduced the concentration by 0.7%. THAT is a bad trend. Water is needed for life, but if you think you can stand in the bottom of your pool and be sustained by that wonderful fluid of life, you are nuts. Everything in balance, everything has a minimum and maximum level that the biosphere has adapted to. Too little or too much is fatal.

@123maxABC

4 жыл бұрын

@@kimweaver3323 this guy doesn't want to hear facts. don't waste your time. He watches Sky News for christ's sake!

@kimweaver3323

4 жыл бұрын

@@123maxABC Gotcha. But I'm not so much responding to the nincompoop as I'm putting a countering view out for everybody else. I have no illusions about bringing any enlightenment to people who have made this topic a matter of religion and/or politics.

@tezzawrath9410

4 жыл бұрын

@@kimweaver3323 "I have no illusions about bringing any enlightenment to people who have made this topic a matter of religion and/or politics." Yep, it is the guys demanding data and evidence in line with the Scientific Method that have made this about "religion and/or politics", not those claiming "the science is settled", claiming "we have a 97% consensus, making fraudulent claims, hiding, manipulating and destroying their data, calling for sin-taxes (Carbon taxes), Gaia worship and unconditional fealty to the 'Climate Cult™'. Does Gaia demand a complete lack of self-awareness before you join the "inner circle"? Utter whackos!

@caninusbitusverisaurus2839

4 жыл бұрын

Spot on. Plants need CO2 to grow and in turn emit oxygen. What is wrong with that.

Surely this is satire. If it's not, it's time to declare both a climate emergency and a sanity emergency.

@Robbie0415768067

4 жыл бұрын

No it's not satire. Sick of people who think throwing taxes to the government is going to impact global warming. I look forward to seeing you weep in shame when you realise you've been robbed and the world is still functioning as per normal. I will be there to point at you and say "Haahaa!"

This conversation is going on in the whole of the western world at the moment

The Pacific Islanders could give up their diesel generators as a token of good faith.

Thank you Sky news for telling the truth

State run energy? Subsidies? Why is the Aussie Govt in the energy biz? And why do you Subsidize energy? It's a recipe for disaster. GET BIG GOVT OUT OF THE WAY.

And it's only gotten more insane now it's 2022.

It’s same here in uk, landscape ruined by turbines , and electric prices going up 10 to 20% every year, they only line the pockets of the turbine company’s and the landowners , the green lunnies are going the fxxk the world .

I have worked on several Coal plants in the Penn. App area. At no time during Operation did I ever see Particulate Exhausting, because of all the Scrubber's Electrostatic Generators etc. Which would mean Thousands of pounds of Dust and Sh!t coming out is ToTal BullCrap. All you can see is a tiny amount of Light fluctuation from the remaining heat in the Release. NO FRIGGIN SMOKE AT ALL. How does all that happen.

LET IT BURN BABY. THIS IS NOTHING BUT A MONEY GRAB

I love the selective use of percentages- an increase of 70 percent equals 170 percent of the original figure so that is not far from 220 percent.

Australia not using coal to generate more energy is as crazy as trying to grow rice and cotton in an arid country! 😑 Oh right Australia does that as well...

In SA we are now getting TV advertisements about a way to save money on power bills. When the demand gets high in summer electricity providers will broadcast txt messages asking consumers to turn off their A/C with the promise of $10 or $20 off the next bill if you cut your consumption 50% on that day. Looks like rolling blackouts are predicted this summer in SA if it gets hot. We pay some of the highest electricity prices in the world and get an unreliable supply. One day Australians will wake up to what is going on.

@MassageWithKlay

4 жыл бұрын

Well that would be a great idea if the housing industry actually built houses which were energy efficient and actually insulated to be able to handle 40+ degree days :D

Australian annual subsidy of coal is $29BIL which is 2.3% of GDP.

MP'S = MEGALOMANIAC in POWER

Those are cooling towers. What comes out of them is water vapor - steam. It is not carbon.

We will not have enough power when we get colder and colder

Coal is just there. PV has to be PRODUCED/TRANSPORTED/INSTALLED/MAINTAINED/RECYCLED (this whole vicious cycle emits more co2 than to fetch and burn coal). There is a simple formula: The cheaper the less CO2-emissions.

To say renewable is cheaper than coal, government is put a spin on this.

this is a STAT BOMB. and

Water vapor is coming out the stacks, not carbon.

@terryquarton3864

3 жыл бұрын

You haven't seen the stacks at Gladstone what's the yellow haze ??? fairy dust how about sulphur dioxide

@gregggoodnight9889

3 жыл бұрын

@@terryquarton3864 sulfur dioxide gas at a few ppm is yellow? Might want to check your facts.

If the science presented by Patrick Moore is correct, by emitting CO2 we have actually averted our extinction due to the steady dropping of atmospheric CO2 levels over millions of years.

Consider this Australia is being played!!

The "royal family" are not the heriditary family, and they should not expect to live like the Austrian Emperors in their heyday. I remember when the "royal yacht" the ocean liner Britannia was said by the politicians to be a reserve or hospital ship in war.. When need arose it was not used at all. I saw the Kaiser's beautiful yacht in harbour.She was a smaller but similar vessel to the czar's yacht, but most certainly not OTT like an ocean liner. .

1As dead flies give perfume a bad smell, so a little folly outweighs wisdom and honor. 2The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left. 3Even as fools walk along the road, they lack sense and show everyone how stupid they are. 4If a ruler’s anger rises against you, do not leave your post; calmness can lay great offenses to rest. 5There is an evil I have seen under the sun, the sort of error that arises from a ruler: 6Fools are put in many high positions, while the rich occupy the low ones. 7I have seen slaves on horseback, while princes go on foot like slaves. 8Whoever digs a pit may fall into it; whoever breaks through a wall may be bitten by a snake. 9Whoever quarries stones may be injured by them; whoever splits logs may be endangered by them. 10If the ax is dull and its edge unsharpened, more strength is needed, but skill will bring success. 11If a snake bites before it is charmed, the charmer receives no fee. 12Words from the mouth of the wise are gracious, but fools are consumed by their own lips. 13At the beginning their words are folly; at the end they are wicked madness- 14and fools multiply words. No one knows what is coming- who can tell someone else what will happen after them? 15The toil of fools wearies them; they do not know the way to town. 16Woe to the land whose king was a servant a and whose princes feast in the morning. 17Blessed is the land whose king is of noble birth and whose princes eat at a proper time- for strength and not for drunkenness. 18Through laziness, the rafters sag; because of idle hands, the house leaks. 19A feast is made for laughter, wine makes life merry, and money is the answer for everything. 20Do not revile the king even in your thoughts, or curse the rich in your bedroom, because a bird in the sky may carry your words, and a bird on the wing may report what you say.

the stance taken by the Pacific island nations as outlined here is a very good example of why Imperialism was not such a bad thing in hindsight

We need reasonably priced electricity so build many more coal powered power generation plants.

🌸🦋 I didn’t know that wind turbine are so full of oil and not maintained. As the turbines fail, they are not repaired, just shut down, waiting for them to leak oil. ♻️

at least the asian belt is increasing the Co2 content in the air, not polluting but helping the world greening.

Revolution comes to mind.

Fission energy pl0x.

Why on earth would you want to stop using solar and keep using dirty old coal instead?

if renewables are so "cheap" why do they need subsidies ???

It Is Not The Power Of The Corrupt I FearThe Most ... It Is The Power Of The Gullible !....

If water had pollution in it at the rate of c0² in the atmosphere, Evian would be bottling it.

Insanity.

You can't stand up in court and tell the judge you only shot 1 person but this chinese guy shot 2 and expect to be found not guilty!

@tezzawrath9410

4 жыл бұрын

Similarly, the prosecution cannot claim you have murdered someone without proving someone was murdered, let alone you did it.

Renewables are taxpayer funded. They take more than they give. Ever since they came into being all our utility bills have shot through the roof. Who knows how much wildlife has been killed by them. Or how many acres of farmland have been contaminated from factory waste from the production of magnets for generators.

@kimweaver3323

4 жыл бұрын

Renewables receive only a fraction of the subsidies that fossil fuels receive. Nuclear is the biggest beggar. No nuclear plant would ever have been built in the US and most of Europe had it not been that special insurance funds were established by the government. Funding for many of them was supplied by, or loans guaranteed by, the Federal, State, and some local governments. They got exemptions from clean water laws, tax breaks on their income, and on and on. Local gov. rezoned land and agreed to forego property taxes. The decommissioning funds, some 350 million per reactor, was to be in place before the reactor could be fueled for the initial start up. Turns out that it was far too little and predicated on there being a safe repository for high level waste. Which does not yet exist. And the money was provided, in many cases, through the insurance program that was supposed to just cover liability. There is NO provision for a Fukushima event. That money would first bankrupt whatever power company owned the reactor, then the construction and design companies....... it's not a coincidence that GE is on the ropes and looking at chapter 11 bankruptcy. Their finance and long term care businesses are the most to blame, but the impending liability for the MK1 reactor design and construction, like at 3 Mile Island and Fukushima, are going to finish off what was the largest industrial manufacturing company in the world. Fossil fuels are being depleted at a rate that will leave us with oil at 150 dollars or more per barrel in a matter of a decade or two. Peak per capita oil production has been reached and passed. The 15 largest oil fields in the world are producing an average of about 30% of their peak production. Most of the hard anthracite ("clean") coal is gone, leaving us with the nasty bituminous crap. It's a toxic mess from extraction, to transporting it, to burning it, to dealing with the highly toxic ash. Everyone who would consider themselves to be educated about energy sustainability needs to see this. kzread.info/dash/bejne/gWVnldKpmbnUh7w.html

@pattwidale4045

4 жыл бұрын

charles check out the neodymium strip mines. The neodymium factory waste sites in China. The birds and bats (especially the endangered ones) that are being killed by wind turbines. The disposal of solar panels. The steel and labor that goes into building wind turbines. The factories that build them and the energy the factories need and they arn't run on solar power. And could batteries run the factories when the sun goes down and the wind doesn't blow? And if so what kind of energy and chemicals and materials and labor are needed to build the batteries? And disposal of batteries?

@kimweaver3323

4 жыл бұрын

@@pattwidale4045 When the automobile made it's appearance, some cities required a person with a lamp to precede the car to warn people on horses that a car was coming. The hue and cry from the people who made their living feeding and caring for horses, people who made wagons, farriers, harness makers, etc. said it would crash their industry and lead to economic ruin nationally. The newest large windmills have blades that rotate slower and whistles have been fitted to the tips to scare away birds. Know what is the biggest killer of birds by far? Glass windows. Then cats. Cars and trucks. When the habitat collapses due to climate disruption, the birds will be among the first to go. So, we lose a few birds by switching to non-fossil energy or we lose all of them, along with all of our vertebrate friends and we will join them in a mass grave.

@pattwidale4045

4 жыл бұрын

kim weaver hawks/ ravens/owls/magpies/cayotes/crows/foxes/eagles/snakes /wild cats/ kill more birds than cats. Bats and birds don't need windmill blades too when they cost more than they produce / which they do. Renewable energy isn't cheap. You can tell by the power bill. You pay for these monstrosity every time you pay your power bill and there are thousands out there that arnt equipped with whistles. And there are hundreds that the Ontario taxpayers are in great debt over that arnt even hooked to the power grid. Have you thought about what it takes to build and erect each one? Do factories run for free? Do the factories that build these things run on oil and gas and coal?

@kimweaver3323

4 жыл бұрын

@@pattwidale4045 Again, you haven't added in the 770 Trillion dollars that Munich Re is assessing to climate collapse due to fossil fuel emissions. And you are very wrong about the major cause of death to birds.

I am so glad China and India are feeding plants

And that’s the fact Jack 👍

Trump 2020🤙🏻

@FranktheBunny666

4 жыл бұрын

TheHealthPhysicist lock her up!

@kimweaver3323

4 жыл бұрын

T-Rump (and his criminal cabal and family) for prison, 2020.

Renewables are cheaper than coal. A 1,000 megawatt coal-fired power plant will burn ~10,000 tons of coal per *day* . At $50/ton, that would be $50,000/day. That cost must be passed on to ratepayers. It's much better to pair renewables with nuclear power. Nuclear power, geothermal, and hydropower work when it is neither windy or sunny. I hear a lot about China on here. China is planning on ~160 gigawatts of nuclear and they have the largest hydropower plant on earth: Three Gorges Dam. They also have the largest wind farm on earth. In 2016, China generated 1.126 Pwh of electricity from hydropower. France's electricity is cheaper than Germany's. France gets most of its electricity from nuclear and Germany gets most of its electricity from coal.

You have to remember that the Politicians so avid to inflict 'Carbon Neutral 'on Ordinary Folk are invariably so well provided for by the latter(=the victims of their moral arrogance& casuistry) that were Energy prices to triple they would be unconcerned & unaffected. Hence they can afford that Moral Arrogance! Which almost never includes criticism of Countries like China& India who are engaged in building Coal- fired Power Stations on unprecedented scale.This Energy policy enables the former to become the undisputed World leader in the production & sale of blades for wind turbines...

We have to stop burning coal. Coal is too valuable to burn! We need it for chemical/industrial processes, such as smelting iron. There are easily a dozen other means of creating energy, and we need to develop *all* of them. Hydroelectric power doesn't require big rivers and huge dams; undershot wheels stuck out into natural current of even small streams can generate power, especially if you build a large array of them. Then there's tidal, geothermal, Thorium nuclear, hydrogen, biodiesel, fuel ethanol, biomass, generated methane, yes solar and wind, also *created* gasoline, kerosene, diesel and syngas produced by thermo-catalytic depolymerization of waste plastic and indeed *all* organic trash. All of these are "renewable", and all of them should be used. The technology for all of them exists already and could be put into use right now. All we lack is the will.

Ramping down and ramping back up is an expensive process for a coal fired station. It is much more economic to operate continuously.

my company years ago tried to build a 660MW coal power station to grow the refinery. Qld govt stopped it and the jobs that would have been created both to run the power station and double the refinery output. The irony is this refinery produces the metal used to make.... batteries. The output per Mw was $26. At that cost my home solar panels would take 29 years to break even.

@kimweaver3323

4 жыл бұрын

Add in the externalized costs. Munich Re has had their actuaries (and they have good ones and lots of them) working on climate change due to human activities and have concluded that the 100 year total cost, if we continue on the current path, the world wide cost will be in the order of 770 TRILLION USD. That means that the vast majority of GDP for all nations will go to repair or mitigation of infrastructure due to human caused climate disruption, just to hopefully survive as a species. I'm not convinced that humans will exist in 25 years, perhaps a lot less.

will the solar and wind farms including batt backup sell power at 8 cents a kw like coal or less if power prices are too come down ??? - do the maths

Wow my future Gravity Powered Generator will be no running cost at all!! Let you know all about it next year after the prototype is constructed.

Ask your energy provider not to supply any renewable power. Except from hydro. Australia has a massive water storage shortage.

Australia needs to build a few nuclear power plants! Shut down a couple coal powered plants.

@hopethisworks1212

4 жыл бұрын

Great idea mate. Then we all kneel and pray for a Fukushima

@gnir81

4 жыл бұрын

@@hopethisworks1212 that's the kind of thinking that's kept us from taking lead in anything! Nuclear power plants are far safe than you assume. Please read about it and not talk like a greeny!

@hopethisworks1212

4 жыл бұрын

@@gnir81 Australia takes the lead in nothing. A tinpot banana republic that is probably the most racist I have ever lived in. If you like research ,have a look at this put out just when Britain was pushing for nuclear.kzread.info/dash/bejne/gmFou6yfp6mXfbQ.html Then look at the reality of the deserted streets in fact the whole place a desert due to it being a definite no go area. One can only hope that Jim Al-Khalili will get a cancer from his visit while he was promoting lies.

@gnir81

4 жыл бұрын

@@hopethisworks1212 I am sorry to hear about your experience in Australia and also sorry for our foolishness on many fronts energy included. I would like you to reconsider your stance on nuclear energy vis a vis coal. climate.nasa.gov/news/903/coal-and-gas-are-far-more-harmful-than-nuclear-power/

The government advises who support the so called renewable disaster should be reassigned to something like the railway ticket offices, but it might be a bit too challenging for them.

$148/MW-h ?! WOW

because it means higher paid admin positions....