I don't put my two fingers all the way in the holes ( stop it ). I put just the fingertips in, and it allows me to push the ball and Snap it down.

@ondovids9253

5 ай бұрын

Same

@user-jy6kd7wq7x

5 ай бұрын

Same

@towmike0415

3 ай бұрын

Same

@sadrhogollsodia9505

Ай бұрын

Same.

@stevenalvarez7645

Ай бұрын

JAJJAJAJAJAJ

This is the problem I am facing right now, thank you so much for this

@ronbeck8643

Жыл бұрын

Absolutely thank you for commenting and watching let me know if you need any more help or explanations on different types of releases or dialing in a specific release

@ashertoberer6836

6 ай бұрын

​@ronbeck8643 you aren't suppose to let one finger out then the other you should let them both out at the same time to get better speed and consistency the same way you did but both out at the same time

@jeffreyparish8393

6 ай бұрын

This guy is a clown and your a bigger clown for believing him

Love the second angle. Thanks for going the extra mile on this

I value my fingers! Thanks for the tip!

Nice release! Remember power comes from correct hand positioning behind the ball by splitting your forearm through the center of the ball, and a well timed swing and release lift the ball and get it up the lane!

@juanmondragon939

3 ай бұрын

That release was not nice buddy! If you knew anything about bowling you would have caught this jesters gimmicks instantly!

@ethankelley9493

3 ай бұрын

@@juanmondragon939i agree

I had this problem also. The two best things to do are have oversized finger holes and a have the drilled on slight angle so you can have a bit of a cup with your wrist while keeping a consistent release.

I've been bowling thumbless for almost 35 years and I've never even thought about it. Now its gonna be in the back of my mind even though I've literally never hurt my fingers on release lol

@ronbeck8643

2 ай бұрын

Well I’m sorry I didn’t mean to make you have to think about it every time you throw the ball my intentions were to explain the proper way to start developing proper technique for anyone just getting into the sport that wants to throw with one hand and no thumb. Thanks for watching and commenting

@SofaKingdom-pd4ew

2 ай бұрын

@ronbeck8643 Oh no I wasn't meaning it in any negative connotation, was just saying I never really thought about my finger position upon release. It's a good video to put out there for people experimenting with this technique or new to it. I started bowling with no thumb in about 91 I do believe? Tried hooking it traditionally for many years and never could get my hand to stay under the ball. I started trying with no thumb after watching Mike Miller on a PBA broadcast and I was blown away with the revs and power he got on the ball. I started going up to the bowling alley 4 or 5 times a week and would bowl 5 or 6 games each time, doing nothing but working on rolling with no thumb. By the end of that summer I had a pretty good grasp on it and ended up raising my average about 40 pins that next season. I'm 44 now and I still bowl with no thumb after numerous coaches told me I'd NEVER be able to bowl this way past my 30s. Back when I started bowling thumbless there were very few other people rolling this way so I had nothing to go off of as far as tips or lessons. I essentially taught myself. I recorded every PBA event and Miller made 7 or 8 telecast so I'd watch them on VHS over and over and over and try to mimic his approach and release. I think your video is awesome and gives people who are new to the technique a good starting point.

@SofaKingdom-pd4ew

2 ай бұрын

@ronbeck8643 My memory may have failed me but I do think there were a couple other PBA pros who bowled with no thumb. Bob Benoit may be one of them I'm not sure. I know for a fact Jimmy Keef (or Keith) did and he had an insane amount of power and revs. May have been one or 2 others.

Yes I need help . My fingers hurt after I leave

@ronbeck8643

Жыл бұрын

I have a video that I made specifically for one-handed know some bowlers if you want to watch it another thing you always want to keep in mind just make sure that your finger holes are bigger so that it allows your fingers room to move as you release the ball

My fingers don't hurt at all .. I have my holes drilled a little bit bigger without finger grips it's a smooth consistent release every time

I bowl with no thumb too. When my ball was drilled my thumb used to fit. Rather than getting it redrilled I go no thumb

I used to have that problem but I fixed it by focusing on pushing through with my palm no twist just push through the spin will come naturally.

@xxigodlylxx6590

3 ай бұрын

can u explain this more like the palm thing i’m just starting to bowl

@jeramyshoemaker2832

3 ай бұрын

@xxigodlylxx6590 I bowl with one hand two fingers no thumb. So I need to focus my attention on my palm so the ball does not roll off either side and I can throw the ball out there.

love the side camera angle

You're over the side of the bowling ball when you release stay under the bowling ball and flick your fingertips you get more revs I've been bowling the same way all my life and I'm 38 now

@ronbeck8643

9 ай бұрын

Right on I’m 41 and my RPMs are between 490 and 530 depending on how I choose to release the ball based off of lane conditions. The short it’s just a piece of information based off of my observation of other peoples methods of bowling and the slow motion is actually a video helping people to understand how to start having proper ball release one-handed with no thumb, this is not how I actually throw the ball. Thanks for watching and commenting

You can come around the ball with the release so high I do it all the time 500 rev rate ! The hard part is being consistent in your release

John wick fr

And that, my friends, is how the beginning of the kamehameha was invented

Okay that's the way you throw a two-finger ball I don't throw it like that my fingers will never snap or break them when I throw a two-finger ball I'm low to the ground I don't throw it up in the air

I use a ball with a little bit bigger holes so I doesn’t risk that but this is a great tip

@ronbeck8643

5 ай бұрын

Yeah I definitely always recommend someone get a ball that has bigger holes a little bit bigger if they’re throwing like this

Your ball is way too high in the air. Gotta keep it lower. You’re gonna damage the floor play like a pro.😂😂

@ronbeck8643

4 ай бұрын

This video was for demonstration of the release. As for the release being high and loft created, bowling lanes are designed to withstand being able to loft past the arrows. The composite materials that most lanes are made of eliminates damage from the ball. The only disturbance that could possibly be created to the lane is a disruption of the original topography setting of the lane which is still unlikely. Pro bowlers used to loft the ball all the time. It has become a lost art.

Never had pain or issues, don’t use tight finger holes either.

The camp pants speak volumes 😮

@ronbeck8643

8 ай бұрын

OK the camo pants speak volumes in what context?

@Monk-Amani.

7 ай бұрын

Putting pressure on him.😂

Good advice for the daugherty’s out there

@SofaKingdom-pd4ew

2 ай бұрын

I learned from watching the OG thumbless bowler on TV........Mike Miller

I use two handed on a two fingers grip i never use one hand like how you did

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cold you do a video on the approach and release? I keep hooking too far left and going into the gutter with late hooking balls but no problem with house balls

@ronbeck8643

10 ай бұрын

Will do. In the meantime try shifting your start position 10 to 15 boards to the left while still aiming for the breakpoint board creating more of a cross lane angle on your throw so that you’re allowed more oil down lane for the ball

@coconutlarry

10 ай бұрын

@@ronbeck8643 thank you!

@ronbeck8643

10 ай бұрын

@@coconutlarry no worries I was having the same problem for a while and I found myself moving all the way over to the left so that when I threw the ball it would land on board 28 and use all the oil in the pattern it would reach breakpoint board 11 and then hook violently back into the pocket for a strike how fast you throw the ball down the lane also has a lot to do with how you line up my next video will talk about all those factors are

@coconutlarry

10 ай бұрын

@@ronbeck8643 looking forward to it! Just got my first ball drilled (hammer radioactive vibe) and I’m practicing every other day.

I agree, but dont at the same time. I load the ball in my hand with 2 fingers. 2 fingers in and twist my palm to the right. it now adds more spin to the ball. Been throwing that for 5 seasons and no broken fingers. I also add more rotation depending on lane condition or what pins are left.

@ronbeck8643

3 ай бұрын

Right on! You have the correct release style as opposed to many others who try this style and dont load the ball or twist their palm correctly.

I'll try the bowl that way

Well I have been bowling like this for a couple of years now and I def wouldn't do it like this. You need to get low and behind the ball. My fingers come off the back end. It's a very smooth throw.

@ronbeck8643

8 ай бұрын

A lot of people keep saying you have to get behind the ball but most people fail to realize that axis tilt is something that is different with every single bowler this throw that I have in my slow motion video is not how I born normally it was just showing the proper way to release the ball but that was also with my access tilt alone

@michaelryan9311

8 ай бұрын

@@ronbeck8643 I find it helps dipping the support side and bringing the ball up higher. Letting gravity help it through. My hand is essentially under the ball and by the time I release my fingers come off the back side. My body is positioned sideways on release. No injuries, good speed and high rev. It's a silent release and I always hit the front of the lane. Getting behind the ball is a pro move no matter what your style is.

@ronbeck8643

8 ай бұрын

@@michaelryan9311 Yeah I used to bowl like this but I always released lower to the lane the only reason this video that I have didn’t release lower it was because I needed to loft the ball in order to show a proper way to start releasing the ball one handed know some without twisting sideways like I was talking about in the short my normal bowling style is a two handed know some bowling with a completely different release method and hand position on the ball that results in a 16.5 mile an hour ball going down Lane at anywhere between 490 to 625 rpm my normal hand position during these throws usually leaves my hand still behind the ball and my fingers on the bottom of the ball and I don’t release the ball off my fingers until I reach the midline. I made this short because every person that I keep seeing trying to learn how to do either one handed know some or two handed know some release constantly tries to spin the ball sideways like I talk about at the beginning of this particular short video.

So should I be releasing it “straight” n the ball will do the work of the hook itself? For reference I have a 15lb Brunswick Wild Ride

@ronbeck8643

10 ай бұрын

Not necessarily a bowling ball will only hook so much depending on its drilling and the access of your release angle, the key to hooking a bowling ball is developing the RPMs you need to allow the ball to transition to its natural roll phase access in reference to the access that you release the ball at. I’m working on more in depth videos about releasing a bowling ball one-handed with no thumb. One of the main factors of this particular release is the speed in which you throw the ball down the lane the slower you throw the ball the more you will need to move into the pattern and the faster you throw the ball the more you can run the edge of the pattern and straighten out to throw at the same time.

Does placing your thumb an index finger in a certain spot on the ball kinda dictate how the release is as well?

@ronbeck8643

8 ай бұрын

A lot of people will say no and a lot of people will say yes I personally have learned that the thumb and index finger position definitely dictates how the ball ends up being released from your hand and is a huge factor in the type of ball motion you get from the release

Listen folks best bet keep your hand behind the ball. Thats what he should have told you….

@ronbeck8643

6 күн бұрын

@@mathewsmith5713 Ultimately yes keep your hand behind the ball so that you are able to load the proper rubs into the ball as you release it however this video simply covered the first step of the correction process in this particular style of throwing.

I can get very good revs with a half thumb in. I for the life of me can barely get revs thumb fully in. Any advice?

@ronbeck8643

5 ай бұрын

That’s the biggest hurdle that everyone has when they stick their thumb into the ball. The two things that you can practice doing is curling the wrist more so that it will give you more distance to apply revs when you uncoil your wrist. The other thing that you have to try and work on is applying pressure with your palm in a pushing type motion to the ball so ultimately you end up with a release that simulates a combination of a yo-yo motion and as the ball comes off your thumb you can use your fingers to apply additional revs to the ball by slightly lifting your fingers against the ball kind of like pulling a ripcord on a chainsaw. The most important thing to remember is proper grip with your thumb. With the full thumb in, the pressure should be on the web of your thumb around the first knuckle joint, not the tip of your thumb.

5 ай бұрын

@ronbeck8643 thank you Ron very much appreciated!

So then how do you fix this issue? I am a 2 finger bowler and my middle finger feels like it is legit about break. The first knuckle on my middle finger is always in so much pain. How do I continue to throw with 2 fingers but not continue to injure my finger.

@ronbeck8643

Жыл бұрын

I had made an instructional video kind of explaining the best ways to go about the release required for a one-handed no thumb throw but ideally you want to release the ball off your hand like it would be a yo-yo as your hand rotates around to the side of the ball. Also make sure the finger holes in the ball that you’re using are a little more on the looser side than snug tight like most pro shop operators try to convince you they need to be

@ninjavibez4696

Жыл бұрын

@@ronbeck8643the less suction the fingers make, the better 👍🏽 I need room for my fingers to slip out freely. Spot on tip, and thank you

@travishanson166

9 ай бұрын

Your fingers should never come up the side of the ball. Roll the ball onto the lane. It will hook. Follow through with your palm facing the sky and pat yourself on the head.

That’s true

🥺

👀 not my throw I’ve been doing my whole life

You also don’t want a crazy loft, though.

@ronbeck8643

5 ай бұрын

Yes that is absolutely true for the most part but it honestly always just depends on what your PIP is what your RPMs are and what your access tilt is from your release I’ve met plenty of bowlers that bowl one-handed with no some that have a PA PRPM and access tilt factor that does not allow them to lay the ball on the lane low and smooth from the line so they have no choice but to loft to the arrows Otherwise their ball always hooks off the lane into the gutter before they reach the pins

What ball do u use?

@ronbeck8643

Жыл бұрын

I use the original black widow asymmetrical I also use a storm invasion a Columbia 300 U-turn and a Columbia 300 freeze hybrid.

then perhaps you should have both fingers pitched to the left or right?

@ronbeck8643

10 ай бұрын

Well you could take that route to try and solve the problem in all honesty the ultimate fix is learning how to pitch your wrist at the right angle so that when you release the ball you have the proper access rotation you need to not break your fingers and still achieve the hook that you’re going for. I’m gonna be making a video pretty soon about how to hook a bowling ball Using the three different types of throwing styles

you need to bend your plant leg, itll prevent a 10 ft loft

@ronbeck8643

11 ай бұрын

Yes I know that and I normally do but the purpose of this particular video was just to show how to avoid hurting or breaking your fingers on the release this demonstration is not how I actually throw one handed no thumb.

Good job for the nationals

Dont cram your fingers in the ball just the tip my boy

@ronbeck8643

Ай бұрын

When I decide to throw with this particular style instead of my standard two-handed style the furthest I’ll stick my fingers into the ball is just to the first knuckle past my fingertips and it is so that I can get a good grip and load the ball with revs. The finger position in this video is mostly just to show what not to do versus what to start trying to perfect

No loftinggggggggggggg

I don't put my fingers all the way

@ronbeck8643

2 ай бұрын

I know a lot of people that barely even push their fingertips into the ball and what I’ve noticed is they have a hard time loading the ball up and producing a sufficient reverie ideally you want to insert your fingers at least to the beginning of the first knuckle joint from the fingertip

😂

Yeah but I don't think you should be throwing it half way down the lane before it hits the ground. Being able to control it from the beginning is more difficult

@ronbeck8643

5 ай бұрын

I totally agree however this was just a demonstration in slow motion to show how the ball releases off the hand and depending on the speed of RPMs applied to the ball during this throw it can actually be more effective when lofted rather than laid down at the beginning of the lane

@littleratperson

5 ай бұрын

​@ronbeck8643 I think what they are saying is that lofting is not really necessary usually and it's more impressive and probably more practical to release it earlier.

Drill Your Holes One To Two Sizes Bigger

@ronbeck8643

8 ай бұрын

That’s the best advice I can give anyone for learning how to bowl like that I actually added that bit of advice in one of my other videos but still it’s not a completely accurate way to release the ball mostly because of the physics involved in the layout of the bowling ball.

Three finger bowling is better

@ronbeck8643

8 ай бұрын

Any style of bowling is better if it makes you a better bowler.

okay how do i throw the bowling ball and it not slam on the wood?

@ronbeck8643

Жыл бұрын

Just work on bending your knees on your approach into a slide and release lower to the lane

@AnthonyjCulpepper

Жыл бұрын

@@ronbeck8643 thanks man i will try my shoulder has been hurting too but i don’t know whats wrong

@andrewt3362

Жыл бұрын

@@AnthonyjCulpepper probably like shoulder tendonitis from swinging your arm and throwing the ball or something

Someone’s new to bowling 😂

@ronbeck8643

3 ай бұрын

Most people that throw this way are new to bowling this video is purely a demonstration of how new bowlers have a tendency to try and release the ball when they do a no some one-handed throw I myself personally have been bowling for a very long time and usually run average scores of 200 to 250.

I average 221 and I’m 14 and if you have an a problem with releasing release like a two handed bowler does and then do it with one hand and don’t throw it half down the line it’s not accurate so take this advice and by the way, you will not break your fingers. It just hurts a lot

@ronbeck8643

9 ай бұрын

Well thank you for watching and commenting congratulations on the 221 average at the age of 14 I am 41 I’ve seen 16 people snap their fingers and breaks them from this particular style of release because they don’t understand how to put revolutions into the ball in a accurate way they think that if they just spin the ball sideways that it’s going to hook for them I’m sure know when you’ve ever met has snap their fingers by throwing like this but you’re still young and one day you will come across somebody who breaks a finger by doing the two handed release the wrong way I personally can bowl with my thumb one-handed without my thumb one-handed and also bowl two handed and the only reason the ball was lofted so far down the lane in the video was so that it can show the under part of my head during the release. Hence the reason for the slow motion footage

Teach me master

@ronbeck8643

Жыл бұрын

Ill get some more tips up asap thanks for watching.

@abicvoice7745

Жыл бұрын

@@ronbeck8643 make a hookup tutorial for beginners like me.

@ronbeck8643

Жыл бұрын

@@abicvoice7745 will do

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You throw the ball to high and hard messes up the rotation and ball speed

@ronbeck8643

2 ай бұрын

That’s because this video was solely a demonstration of how to start releasing the ball correctly one-handed with no thumb that’s not actually how I throw and I needed to release the ball high so that I can capture it with the slow motion cam

@jacklarage2651

2 ай бұрын

Well I learned my self when I was 11 this style perfected it in couple months then to with thumb in but I switch back in fourth.

@ronbeck8643

2 ай бұрын

Right on I’m a two-handed know some bowler I can still throw original style with my thumb and I just don’t have A high Rev rate when I do and when I throw one handed no thumb I actually released the ball about the middle of my shin to my ankle high and when I two-handed bowl I also release the ball around the middle of my shin and sometimes closer to the ankle every once in a while I’ll get one just below the knee

May as well go two handed

@ronbeck8643

10 ай бұрын

I personally do bowl two handed but I used to bowl one handed with no thumb and I am always seeing others do the same. Most don’t understand the release with that style so that’s why I made this. I’m making another video that will cover Al three styles to help people understand how the release works and the difference between them. Thanks for watching and commenting.

I have the same awful double bounce and same bad bowling as you

@ronbeck8643

7 ай бұрын

This video clip was simply just a demonstration of how to start properly releasing the ball from your hand with this style the release also needs to be lower to the deck but because of the camera angle of the release that I was trying to capture I could not release Low to the deck in this video. You should check out some of my other bowling shorts that I put up I’m actually a way better bolder than this particular video leads you to believe and I also bowl two handed. I used to bowl with this technique for a very long time with an average of over 200 and because of that I decided to make the short just stating the proper way to start releasing the ball with that style so this particular short video was not intended to make me look like a good bowler in anyway.

Basketball?

@ronbeck8643

5 ай бұрын

Bowling tip…though you could use a similar approach to a basketball layup

Just use your damn thumb

@ronbeck8643

8 ай бұрын

Most people would quote jason Belmonte when it comes to using their thumb that quote was” why would I use my thumb if I’m beating you”. The simple fact is that everybody has their own style and some actually cannot use their thumb because they do not have the muscle pressures required or capabilities in their arm due to injuries to be able to use their son while they’re bowling.

Whole lotta talking no explaining lmfao. This is why you average 160

@ronbeck8643

Ай бұрын

Well I personally don’t bowl with you so I don’t know how you come to that conclusion for that being my average my average is actually in the mid 200s on top of that there’s only so much you can accomplish and 60 seconds for this type of video. But thank you so much for watching and commenting I appreciate it.

I don't recommend bowling like this

@ronbeck8643

8 ай бұрын

Yeah I agree with you there I always recommend that people either go to a two-handed style or back to a traditional style but if they are extremely adamant about learning how to bowl one-handed with no thumb then I always try to at least help them understand how to release the ball properly so that they don’t hurt themselves and they can get the most out of their potential.

And what’s your point?

you did it wrong

@ronbeck8643

8 ай бұрын

How so?

Could do better

My fingers always swollen during and after bowling

This isn’t what you wanna do.

@ronbeck8643

Ай бұрын

Agreed but for someone that is just starting out in bowling it is an excellent video to help them understand proper release and loading revs into the ball I do know a few people that average 260 minimum‘s that use this style

@JeredSteilen

Ай бұрын

@@ronbeck8643 yeah, people like Tom Smallwood is the only one that comes to mind. Beginners are understandable, especially for people are older and have more trouble holding the ball with all fingers.

Quit teaching people to bowl wrong.

@ronbeck8643

28 күн бұрын

@@chrisdickenson1043 Technically there is no wrong way to bowl anyone can choose to use any type of style configuration they want you shouldn’t harsh on it because one day you’re bowl again somebody that uses the style you don’t like and you think is wrong and They will beat you

Dumb

@ronbeck8643

Ай бұрын

Well you may think it’s done but be completely honest you would be surprised at how many beginners are absolutely grateful for this tiny little piece of information that no one else talks about because nobody else decided to take the time to put the thought into it. You might wanna be careful if you’re a bowler because one day you might come across a bowler that uses this style that you could never beat

Horrible

@ronbeck8643

2 ай бұрын

I agree 100% my throw demonstration is horrible for someone who is experienced in bowling but then again this was purely meant for the absolute beginner to understand how to start releasing the ball correctly and intentionally filmed at the angle so that it provided an accurate visual angle of the release for The I just walked into a bowling alley and want to learn how to bowl with one hand and no sub type person.