No more TARGET PANIC! Recurve Bow or Compound!

Target panic, shot anticipation, flinching - no matter what you call it, it's a major problem that every archer faces at some point. In this video, Clay Hayes and Joel Turner of Shot IQ discuss the core problem in shooting, ourselves! Learn now to develop a controlled archery shot and beat target panic once and for all. No matter if you shoot a recurve bow, longbow, or compound bow, these concepts can be put to good use to make you a more accurate shot.
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  • @312luisr
    @312luisr11 ай бұрын

    Had the bow set up at a pro shop. It performed just fine kzread.infoUgkxQEKUoxLWwayEDZR0NKB-5limn4MBU-2L . And I would say this is a good starting now that I could pass down to my son when he is older.But the package was missing the release and a nock was missing from one arrow.Dealing with customer support was terrible. They suggested I buy a new release rather than correct their own quality control issue because it’s to expensive for the. to ship it out from China.Update: manufacturer got back to me and resolved the issue. I retract the above statement.

  • @dutch5580
    @dutch55803 жыл бұрын

    I don't know why I keep watching these videos.... I don't even have a bow 😂

  • @mrpimpsoda1

    @mrpimpsoda1

    3 жыл бұрын

    Time to get one

  • @andrewcoulter323

    @andrewcoulter323

    3 жыл бұрын

    Buy one..

  • @ara945

    @ara945

    3 жыл бұрын

    GO GET ONE!

  • @jasonbennett60

    @jasonbennett60

    3 жыл бұрын

    Because the fundamentals of what Joel teaches can be carried into all aspects of life. Determination, decision making and following through.

  • @jabeita1

    @jabeita1

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@jasonbennett60 Exactly!!

  • @DelvadoMekiatti
    @DelvadoMekiatti4 жыл бұрын

    This helped explain some of my grouping issues! I found that if I practice with just one arrow I slow down and concentrate more. When I practice with a quiver full I don't always go through the mechanics. With one arrow I walk up and back from the target and try recognize what I did or didn't do right with that shot. And that has helped with my target panic especially when it time to fling broad heads. Good luck this year hope y'all fill up your freezers!

  • @chadblechinger5746

    @chadblechinger5746

    10 ай бұрын

    Same here. Also I don't shoot bails but a hanging blanket. This helps me train my eyes to read the arrow in flight instead of relying on shaft position in or through a target. If can get your eyes to watch the arrow in flight you will need less gear to get better.

  • @haythamheinrichsaeth264

    @haythamheinrichsaeth264

    6 ай бұрын

    Sounds interesting, might try and follow this. I have a problem where I release the arrow too early. Like I just draw to my anchor point, aim for like 2 seconds, and release. I don't think that's right, so I'm trying to make myself aim for 5 seconds to get better shots

  • @FatFarmOwl
    @FatFarmOwl3 жыл бұрын

    I almost gave up on traditional archery today due to target panic. I then stumbled on this video and it gave me hope. This is EXACTLY what I needed. Who would have thought it would be so simple?!?!?! I grabbed my bow, and did EXACTLY what you and Joel said to do. I cannot thank you two enough!!! My shooting has improved TREMENDOUSLY!!! I'm no longer struggling to get that shot up on target!!!

  • @bradboisseau749
    @bradboisseau7492 жыл бұрын

    I mastered target panic by shooting in loud situations, I’d shoot my bow while others were shooting 12 gauges at clays , really helped me stay calm in other situations, so once it was quiet like it is in the woods it was a breath of fresh air and shooting was so much easier , one thing I’ll never control is the mini heart attack when a nice whitetail buck walks in lol

  • @pony3284

    @pony3284

    2 жыл бұрын

    There's a small archery range in my town right on a busy road. Between the constant passenger vechicles, big city trucks, and the occasional person who wants to yell stupid shit while I'm aiming, you've given me a new perspective on it all!

  • @bradboisseau749

    @bradboisseau749

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@pony3284 yep , being able to tune all that out is massively helpful , so I figured I’d try to do it with the most sudden and loud noise I could be around which is a 12g going off 15 feet behind you lol , being able to not jump or flinch when someone shoots unexpectedly has really made me focus on my shot and only my shot. Although my friends do look at me weird when their blowing up clay birds having a blast and I’m shooting a recurve by myself 😂

  • @KorokHaze93

    @KorokHaze93

    Жыл бұрын

    Wow...that's a really good idea. I'm seriously gonna start doing that now. I don't even have too many problems with target panic but that just sounds like a really good way to train🤷‍♂️ You might be a genius.

  • @bradboisseau749

    @bradboisseau749

    Жыл бұрын

    @@KorokHaze93 target panic was my biggest problem when I was a kid learning how to hunt , I felt like I was calm, and thought I really was but when the time came to let an arrow fly I’d shortly find out I was aiming at the deer in general rather than a small spot. I did everything imaginable and couldn’t beat it til I tried this. Then all the sudden my arrows started going where I wanted them to! Happy hunting and hope this idea can help ya even a little bit!

  • @KorokHaze93

    @KorokHaze93

    Жыл бұрын

    @@bradboisseau749 yeah happy hunting brother I appreciate your help

  • @guycarrwuzright7189
    @guycarrwuzright71893 жыл бұрын

    Hey Clay, I want you to know that this video changed my archery experience! I was in a slump and had plateaued. I was frustrated. Then I watched this video. I studied and rewatched it twice for good measure. Then I took careful notes on it. Then, I applied the advice and techniques that you and Joel offered. And my shots increased and my placement improved! I can't tell you how happy this makes me.! Thank you both! (P.S. I watch all your other videos too on archery. You rock Clay and keep up the good work brother!.)

  • @Habitatti
    @Habitatti4 жыл бұрын

    I highly recommend Joel's course. Way better than the next bow you're going to buy.

  • @michaelpozzini6426
    @michaelpozzini64263 жыл бұрын

    Thank You, Thank You Thank You! This video has helped me tremendously, target panic was a huge problem for me for months. The simple process of making a conscious decision helped. My shooting improved so much in less then one week. Both you and Joel really broke it down and simplified my shooting. Keep up the videos.

  • @bigpowerhouse11
    @bigpowerhouse113 жыл бұрын

    It's so easy to hear this, and process it, and understand it and evaluate it and what I'm doing wrong. I've watched this so many times but.......It's very very hard to practice it.

  • @jabeita1

    @jabeita1

    2 жыл бұрын

    it's a mental thing.

  • @Eric-gi9kg
    @Eric-gi9kg4 жыл бұрын

    I use a similar release. 1st take a deep breath as I draw, and on a slow exhale I aquire the target and at the end of the exhale I release. I find that this relaxes me, and keeps me from hovering (getting the figure 8).

  • @magicod

    @magicod

    3 жыл бұрын

    I read this this morning and this afternoon I gave it a try. I only shot 30 arrows, but, it was starting to work quite well. Thanks

  • @goodolfashion
    @goodolfashion3 жыл бұрын

    Okay a week after watching... This is the most impactful information I've taken in about archery. I'm still quite new but I can see how I was already hitting a plateau. Now.. hahaha.. everytime I go to release my shot I calm myself down and remind "everyone" im the boss here. Results speak for themselves, it's pretty impressive. And I can see how that mentality already translates to other areas of my life, allowing me to remain calm under pressure and take clear decisive action. Thank you both so much!

  • @depressedfox6218
    @depressedfox62183 жыл бұрын

    I'm new to archery(few months)and this video is absolutely perfect. It gives the information you need and brings up things that... really not a lot of people even begin to think about. Simple and solid editing that keeps it interesting without cutting out important details. The part about talking yourself through the steps after you already take aim is something I will definitely pay attention to next time I shoot. Thanks for the in-depth vid!

  • @smplatek
    @smplatek4 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for this. It's great to see a good shooter admit to needing help. I really appreciate Joel's scientific approach, which is something I can relate to. Again, just thanks for this and your other vids, been really helpful as I enter my first trad season and second ever hunting season.

  • @clayhayeshunter

    @clayhayeshunter

    4 жыл бұрын

    Glad to help!

  • @5elevenfirewood195
    @5elevenfirewood1953 жыл бұрын

    I took a break from shooting traditional about three years because of target panic, no matter how much I tried it came out in different ways and finally the other day at a friend's house I picked up their 25 pound recurve and said ok hopefully all my bad shooting habits are gone and I focused completely on aim and release and sank 5 arrows into a 4 inch group for the first time in years. Awesome feeling getting through that target panic. Just had to be deliberate about getting over it like he said.

  • @ryanreynolds3630
    @ryanreynolds36303 жыл бұрын

    This is such a wonderful resource. I've been shooting about 20 years and I like to think im a pretty decent shot but every now and then I hit a distance or a shot that kind of gets to me a bit. This is a game changer for me thank you so much guys, great work!

  • @WiilyDerbbinphlatte
    @WiilyDerbbinphlatte3 жыл бұрын

    This is such great information. Thank you!! Shots are already improving because of this video.

  • @michaelmaggio5915
    @michaelmaggio59153 жыл бұрын

    Thanks a bunch for this video. It helped a lot. I've been shooting for over thirty years and finally got it.

  • @HonestDoubter
    @HonestDoubter2 ай бұрын

    Right at 12 minutes is where Joel nailed my issues. "The aim cannot be the trigger of my shot."

  • @thatguyfromjapan
    @thatguyfromjapan3 жыл бұрын

    So much wisdom and help and common sense and goodness in these videos. Thank you soooooo much.

  • @chriss5999
    @chriss59993 жыл бұрын

    I watch this video yesterday. Went out and shot my recurve right after and it really did help. I was releasing the arrow as soon I was aimed. I aim then told myself to shoot. I was surprised in how much it helped. I've been shooting and hunting with traditional archery since 2005. I've hit a plateau the last few years. I'm hoping this will help. Thanks again for another great video

  • @derekdarlington8840
    @derekdarlington88404 жыл бұрын

    Great stuff as always! Your videos have really helped to bring my form together and I like the way that you (and Joel) break stuff down for your viewers. Knowing why is a big help in making that decision to execute. Thanks for the content and keep up the good work sir!

  • @clayhayeshunter

    @clayhayeshunter

    4 жыл бұрын

    Glad you like them!

  • @waynestevenson9613
    @waynestevenson96134 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for the help!

  • @ionflow1073
    @ionflow1073 Жыл бұрын

    This is a great lesson as it can be applied to a lot of other aspects of my day to day life. Thanks for posting this.

  • @bowmac54
    @bowmac544 жыл бұрын

    Great video guys, now if I could make myself do it. I have shot Traditional for around 55 years now. Shot split finger snap shooting until a couple years ago and done pretty good. The last two years have been shooting three under with a point on style it suits me fine for hunting but I haven't been able to finish it out like I see here. Thanks again for the video.

  • @targetpanicrecords
    @targetpanicrecords3 жыл бұрын

    As a beginner well, actually a restarter, this is the best video I have seen very long time thank you gentlemen for sharing your inner most fundamental skill set the world!

  • @bradleyhermes304
    @bradleyhermes3043 жыл бұрын

    I just want to say this really has helped me with my target panic. Mine was horrible. It was so bad recently after shooting a 3D course, it made me want to put down the trad bow altogether. I could not even get to anchor before letting one fly. It's still a battle, but I'm improving every time I shoot. My grouping has dramatically improved in consistency as well. Thanks for this video.

  • @popapi1970
    @popapi19702 жыл бұрын

    WOWZEEE......this was amazing. Thank's guy's I wholeheartedly appreciate this!

  • @andygrace3825
    @andygrace38252 жыл бұрын

    I suffered from target panic when I was about 13 and stopped shooting as I didn't know how to get past it, now I'm 50 and after a few good years shooting the dreaded symptoms started to return. I followed Joel's instruction and practised my internal monologue and after 1 hour I've got control back shooting at around 10 metres. I'm going to keep working on it but just wanted to thank you both.

  • @allen4758

    @allen4758

    Жыл бұрын

    This guy is great , but I also read ( idiot proof Archery ) and did as it instructed and it helped me greatly , his explanation and cure is guaranteed to cure it it you actually follow through with it.

  • @JuanPabloMolinaMatute
    @JuanPabloMolinaMatute3 жыл бұрын

    Such an excellent video, well explained, thanks for sharing your experience with us

  • @scottyoung6119
    @scottyoung61193 жыл бұрын

    Shot ibo for yr.s ,us 3di team in Geneva Italy never could understand target panic until last yr. It happened. 15 yard blank bale and worked through it. A lot of good info here great job!

  • @challes2000
    @challes20003 жыл бұрын

    Thank you...this is the biggest problem I face is to be perfectly on target and then miss. I thought it was aim anxiety but now know different. My target panic was having me tighten my bow hand (torquing my bow) and moving the bow after release (wanting shot to end) before arrow was in target. Amazing improvement in accuracy once I realized this.

  • @TheWVgoodguy22
    @TheWVgoodguy222 жыл бұрын

    What a great video. I definitely need to take his course for compound bows. Even though I recently upgraded my bow from a 06 PSE to a 2020 PRIME Black 3, I am still about 50-75% on my shots, especially at 35+ yards. I shoot every weekend but still the same results. I eventually will get into the traditional bow game 🏹🦌

  • @artyoung3546
    @artyoung35463 жыл бұрын

    Hi guys, a big thank you for your work, I don't speak perfect English, but what I could understand and from my own experience, I describe 4 essential sequences to take place during the shooting with a notable point before any intension of shooting, namely a detachment of the mind from a target or an animal in the hunt, try to appeal as little as possible to emotionel (on a type of shooting consciously constructed without intinctive) so as to unfold the most pragmatically shooting, here is a little summary of what I could learn with practice and your precious tutorials The first step is the position: The body is straight flexible and the head naturally turns towards the target. Cock the bow in line with the bow wrist and the string wrist well in line with each other to avoid any vibration when the release occurs. Projecting the front shoulder in the axis when you arm the bow and the lowest possible . Arm the bow with the dorsals with the most flexible string arm possible. Anchor the hand on the face strong enough to gain stability with still the hooked but flexible rope fingers, subtly feel the tension of the rope under these fingers and on his back. Raise your elbow Prepare for the second sequence Second Sequences: Alignment of the rope along the length of the arrow. To aim Quick check of the alignment of both hands Prepare for the third sequence, always so pragmatic Third sequences: Build, build back tension, feel your back tighten with a refinement of the aim until the moment of the release! Fourth sequences: Read the trajectory of the arrow to the target! From that moment I think that we can let go and build the emotion! Having practiced instinctive shooting for many years with sawtooth results, it is very gratifying today to be able to progress and partly control your shooting and therefore your mind! Good arrows! Greg

  • @LostBeetle
    @LostBeetle3 жыл бұрын

    He's putting it in easy to understand terms. I taught myself these steps just last year 15 years after starting archery in my life and I know exactly where he's coming from. Haven't mastered it, I still faulter more than I'd like, but when everything is fully conscious in your shot and follow through you shoot best. One drill that helped me may sound weird but it just works. And that's drawing and aiming, but never actually releasing the arrow. You tell yourself before you draw that you're only going to aim and never release, and instead of releasing the arrow, tell just yourself when it's time to release, it puts things into really clear perspective, you then collapse your draw and lower the bow, arrow still on the string. Something about not knowing the release is actually coming really puts your mind at ease and allows you to grasp all the fine details of aiming and what it's all about. I still do this drill occasionally. I should add that another thing that really helped me was just switching to three under, with split the tip of the arrow is basically in your bottom peripheral vision, much harder to notice it and easier to start forgetting.

  • @jonoedwards4195
    @jonoedwards41953 жыл бұрын

    Awesome show! When I'm having a Shocka I grab a Compound. Unreal tips.

  • @comfusedpassanger3399
    @comfusedpassanger33994 жыл бұрын

    Joel Turner seems to know what he's talking about. After shooting instinctively for years I have many really bad days, so I`m going to his page after. Interesting setup with left risers and thumb draw. Great video. Now to Joel`s page ..

  • @SherPunjabi86
    @SherPunjabi86 Жыл бұрын

    Clay, I wanted to thank you man. Your videos have helped me tremendously. My shot placement and my groups have tightened up significantly by just watching two of your videos. Thank you!

  • @clayhayeshunter

    @clayhayeshunter

    Жыл бұрын

    Fantastic!

  • @Kurtdog63
    @Kurtdog633 жыл бұрын

    Fred Bear talked about target panic in some of his videos. He said it took him three years to come up with a technique of aiming to at least deal with target panic, if not to overcome it. He also admitted that his style of shooting was not what he would recommend others to emulate. Shooting stationary targets that never move is good for consistent form and accuracy practice, but... snap shooting can have merit under some hunting situations where there is only a few seconds to come to full draw, ANCHOR, and make the shot to harvest an animal. Fred said that if he came to full draw and tried to hold it, he would lose concentration. His style was aiming DURING the draw, and releasing instantly when he came to anchor. Coming to a consistent anchor is one of the main points for accuracy and he understood that.

  • @user-sb5mb8ee5x
    @user-sb5mb8ee5x5 ай бұрын

    Amazing I appreciate all your videos they have helped me a ton thanks a lot

  • @alexandregomescaetano1405
    @alexandregomescaetano14054 жыл бұрын

    Great content guys! Thanks for that!

  • @hankremer6606
    @hankremer6606 Жыл бұрын

    Two of the best. Learned a ton

  • @Hunter30394
    @Hunter303944 жыл бұрын

    One of the best series I have ever seen. Well done

  • @clayhayeshunter

    @clayhayeshunter

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Richard

  • @uncleremus5046
    @uncleremus50464 жыл бұрын

    Joel has truly advanced the target panic issue. Staying on the back end of the shot & not aiming is the key for me. His teachings & Terry Wunderle have helped me the most.

  • @mikekupetsky6879

    @mikekupetsky6879

    2 жыл бұрын

    I don't know what you all are afraid of the target for it never made any sense to me

  • @uncleremus5046

    @uncleremus5046

    Жыл бұрын

    @ Mike you probably swing draw right? Lol

  • @fetchmasters
    @fetchmasters4 жыл бұрын

    Been waiting for this one. It did not disappoint. Thanks.

  • @clayhayeshunter

    @clayhayeshunter

    4 жыл бұрын

    Glad you enjoyed it!

  • @alansam51
    @alansam513 жыл бұрын

    I am very impressed with this mind set. This is certainly more than just Archery

  • @jabeita1

    @jabeita1

    2 жыл бұрын

    Love it!! Those were my thoughts exactly. Now I know why Zen monks practice archery. It's deep!

  • @knipp121
    @knipp1214 жыл бұрын

    Love both these guys great video

  • @jonathanstaley3883
    @jonathanstaley38832 жыл бұрын

    Fantastic advice

  • @jeffwalker5475
    @jeffwalker54752 жыл бұрын

    Wow!!! Amazing and fascinating.

  • @jeremysaunders9916
    @jeremysaunders99164 жыл бұрын

    Very new to archery Clay but found this fascinating, been subcribed for a while. In the UK we can not hunt game like you can, we've not much anyway !, but really enjoy you videos. This one with Joel was especially interesting to me. Thank you.

  • @clayhayeshunter

    @clayhayeshunter

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Jeremy

  • @garyr5370
    @garyr53704 жыл бұрын

    I watched this episode after struggling for the past 2 weeks. i shoot daily and seem to have been getting worse each day. I was plucking and collapsing, and doing everything wrong with my release... I was very frustrated. I am basically self taught and I am alone as a trad shooter at my local club. Everyone else shoots compound, so its hard to find help learning. So When I came inside and seen this video uploaded I was compelled to watch it twice. Yesterday I went to my local 3d shoot and followed the suggestions Jo made and I went from last week shooting a 205 (average 220) to shooting a 249! That is the best I scored all year! Thank You.

  • @clayhayeshunter

    @clayhayeshunter

    4 жыл бұрын

    Good to hear Gary

  • @travisbickle0815
    @travisbickle08153 жыл бұрын

    Learnings from decades put into few minutes, will take a while to fully digest, thank you 🙏🏻 I‘ll buy you a belt for this 😉

  • @traditionellebogensschutze1438
    @traditionellebogensschutze14384 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for this Video. I helps a lot of people around the world who fight with TP. Greetings from Germny

  • @clayhayeshunter

    @clayhayeshunter

    4 жыл бұрын

    Our pleasure!

  • @pjcassidy1
    @pjcassidy1 Жыл бұрын

    I have target panic with everything I shoot. I really hope this information will help me. Thanks a lot.

  • @thomasfox2150
    @thomasfox21505 ай бұрын

    Great video his advice makes so much sense :)

  • @Mark--Todd
    @Mark--Todd3 жыл бұрын

    One of, if not the best video on this subject I have seen. I shoot slingshot a lot and the same rules apply.

  • @clayhayeshunter

    @clayhayeshunter

    3 жыл бұрын

    Very cool!

  • @michaelh.weiser6502
    @michaelh.weiser65024 жыл бұрын

    Maybe the best video on KZread about this! I have to rethink all my shooting... did I make the hit, or plain luck. Thank you very much🙏👍👍👍

  • @clayhayeshunter

    @clayhayeshunter

    4 жыл бұрын

    Good stuff!

  • @mikeclark1733
    @mikeclark17334 жыл бұрын

    very well explained.

  • @FabioReis-yq1bq
    @FabioReis-yq1bq3 жыл бұрын

    Excellent!

  • @leanderkippenberg9931
    @leanderkippenberg9931 Жыл бұрын

    Such a great Video!! Thank you guys

  • @clayhayeshunter

    @clayhayeshunter

    Жыл бұрын

    Glad you enjoyed it!

  • @michaeldavenport1377
    @michaeldavenport13774 жыл бұрын

    Freaking brilliant 👏 That critical second gets me. It has owned me. F TURNER...I can't wait to take his course.

  • @user-sb5mb8ee5x
    @user-sb5mb8ee5x5 ай бұрын

    Wow exactly explains everything

  • @goodolfashion
    @goodolfashion4 жыл бұрын

    Awesome content thanks

  • @kickejohansson1
    @kickejohansson14 жыл бұрын

    Fantastic!!

  • @romanracela
    @romanracela2 жыл бұрын

    Let the storm pass! Oh man. That's what I've been missing on my shot process. Thanks Joel and Clay.

  • @jabeita1

    @jabeita1

    2 жыл бұрын

    "Let the storm pass!" That's pretty deep stuff, isn't it!

  • @nuttjeffable
    @nuttjeffable4 жыл бұрын

    Well done

  • @skyekorp2225
    @skyekorp22253 жыл бұрын

    New sub new archer love your videos thank you!

  • @davidcai4473
    @davidcai4473 Жыл бұрын

    omg I do exact what he said. The kick fire at the beginning

  • @CoensScaleModelling
    @CoensScaleModelling4 жыл бұрын

    Excellent!!!

  • @johanrautenbach6074
    @johanrautenbach60744 жыл бұрын

    Fantastic video Clay!

  • @clayhayeshunter

    @clayhayeshunter

    4 жыл бұрын

    Glad you enjoyed it

  • @ara945
    @ara9453 жыл бұрын

    As a new archer and soon to be bowhunter I have been practicing 1-3 hrs a day, every day for the last month. I watched this video about 2 weeks ago and so glad I did. Even though I didn't really understand what you guys were talking about I immediately went out and purchased myself a clicker and started focusing on separating my jobs and getting my subconscious out of the way. I am now shooting a 6 inch plate all day from 10 yards and my shots are now consistently on target at 30+ yards. The results are one thing but the feeling I get now by shooting in this structured way is even better. Thank you so much for sharing this information, I know for a fact without it I would likely have spent years to learn what I have learned in weeks.

  • @clayhayeshunter

    @clayhayeshunter

    3 жыл бұрын

    Good for you Ara!

  • @PatrickSmeaton
    @PatrickSmeaton3 жыл бұрын

    Bowhunting and shooting my bow has been a passion since I was 11 years old. Target panic has been my nemesis that entire time. There have been times when I got so frustrated that I no longer enjoyed shooting. It literally makes me sad to think about how much joy it has sucked out my shooting and hunting. I don't enjoy shooting 3D with friends at all, I could never shoot competitively, and I've been the person Joel talks about, where I've actually been relieved to not have that buck present a shot, for fear that I'd blow it. I Bought Joel's DVD about 10 years ago, and I've read a book on the subject. I have times where I get it under control, and in those times, I feel like I'm invincible. I'm going to buy the course, because it sounds like he's got what I desperately need.

  • @clayhayeshunter

    @clayhayeshunter

    3 жыл бұрын

    I wish you the best. I know how frustrating it can be.

  • @bloodybonescomic
    @bloodybonescomic3 жыл бұрын

    The art of archery. It is an excellent sport.

  • @obionewheelkenobi689
    @obionewheelkenobi6892 жыл бұрын

    Awesome content....i shoot a hinge with a compound and a clicker with stickbow. It's a unreal feeling of freedom from target panic. A surprise shot is the only way.

  • @johnnylovesannie
    @johnnylovesannie4 жыл бұрын

    I haven’t had a chance to watch this all yet but I just wanted to get an early thanks in because I really appreciate you tackling this topic Clay - you are a star! I hope it is going to help me kick the TP monster for good this time.

  • @clayhayeshunter

    @clayhayeshunter

    4 жыл бұрын

    Make it happen!

  • @johnnylovesannie

    @johnnylovesannie

    4 жыл бұрын

    No matter what!

  • @stefangabor8549
    @stefangabor85494 жыл бұрын

    Absolute Gold

  • @SellsZac
    @SellsZac4 жыл бұрын

    That part at 8:26 hit home for me. When I started shooting archery seriously in my mid 20s that first year was just a landslide of progress. I became one of the better shooters I know, out of a lot of hardcore longtime hunters, within 6 months from taking 150-200 shots a week in the backyard. From the end of that first year until now? I don't know that i've made any real improvements. I'm still just a slightly above average shooter. Time to make changes.

  • @jabeita1
    @jabeita12 жыл бұрын

    This is heavy duty stuff...about as Zen (or perhaps "Stoic") as it gets. I especially like the final quotes, "hope is not a plan...hope has zero power." I see broad application of this philosophy that goes way beyond archery and target acquisition. I will apply it to my archery, but will also keep it in mind throughout my day in all that I do. Learning to "pause"...long enough to make a decision...requires patience. "Patience" is something we sorely lack in our society. Thanks guys for the thoughtful...and useful...material.

  • @clayhayeshunter

    @clayhayeshunter

    2 жыл бұрын

    Those are all concepts we could all benefit from!

  • @dragoninja13
    @dragoninja134 жыл бұрын

    Woo-hoo number 200! Lol great video guys wonderful tips that work well for all marksman sports, especially slingshots and slingbows!! 😂👌👍

  • @mikepatterson3717
    @mikepatterson37177 ай бұрын

    Thanks!

  • @clayhayeshunter

    @clayhayeshunter

    7 ай бұрын

    Thanks Mike

  • @tradarcher8714
    @tradarcher87143 жыл бұрын

    Great vid brother

  • @jeffbaker5038
    @jeffbaker5038 Жыл бұрын

    This is going to improve my shooting.

  • @MegaDavyk
    @MegaDavyk3 жыл бұрын

    I have been thinking of getting a left hand Bow Like Joel, the thumb release works perfectly with the arrow on the left hand side of the bow, the arrow is naturally torqued on to the bow by the forefinger.

  • @jamesjgill
    @jamesjgill3 жыл бұрын

    I think the mechanics of me executing my shot needs practice. I need to practice that specific motion. I will build time in my practice just to practice execution in a way that doesn't demand that I get a perfect impact. Then test it at different distances. This is a good video for me to review before I practice. Thanks for making it.

  • @Arrow-bd2xu
    @Arrow-bd2xu3 жыл бұрын

    AWESOME TIPS !

  • @clayhayeshunter

    @clayhayeshunter

    3 жыл бұрын

    Glad you like them!

  • @offthearrowshelf
    @offthearrowshelf4 жыл бұрын

    Cool video, thanks. I have just bought Joel book ShotIQ

  • @clayhayeshunter

    @clayhayeshunter

    4 жыл бұрын

    Great!

  • @jamesjgill
    @jamesjgill4 жыл бұрын

    I did a practice using "Here I Go" as a mantra to repeat and scored a personal best on a vegas small-ten face. This was only practice and when I took it onto the field course with someone else of comparable skill, I lost focus a few times. By making this process of aiming then transitioning to shot execution and not going back to the aiming stage I think I will improve and be able to take this skill into a competition. I think this will help me under pressure and enjoy competition more.

  • @clayhayeshunter

    @clayhayeshunter

    4 жыл бұрын

    It sure helps me.

  • @UncleDanBand64
    @UncleDanBand642 жыл бұрын

    Very interesting video. I very much come from the grip it and rip it camp. I took to Traditional Archery very naturally. Over 40 years of hunting Trad Equipment. Won tournaments, took game. Just recently I decided to shoot a more controlled shot. No question that controlled Dan is more accurate than instinctive Dan. I am even toying with a lefty riser and thumb shooting. It is a different sight picture. My grandkids have started shooting their Turkish bows like that...instant improvement for them. Not sure I will hunt with Joel's wrong-handed bow this fall but, I am determined to release a more controlled shot.

  • @clayhayeshunter

    @clayhayeshunter

    2 жыл бұрын

    🙌

  • @UncleDanBand64

    @UncleDanBand64

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@clayhayeshunter In that one video probably shot the same day he challenged you to try lefty riser. Did you ever try it?

  • @laurentduverge7851
    @laurentduverge78512 жыл бұрын

    Hi Clay, Very interesting discussion. Joel is a great tutor. One thing new to me was the mention of a "Grip sear"(?). What is it? Mentioned a few times but I have never come across it before. Cheers, L.

  • @HedgeapleJoe
    @HedgeapleJoe Жыл бұрын

    Great stuff! I just found your channel. I've made a couple views and always loved archery but Quito and family never take the time to enjoy it. I also day trade stocks. Tell Joel this is amazingly great advice for day trading. I will try this today in my trading. Love your channel

  • @michaeli6424
    @michaeli64244 жыл бұрын

    Great info! Has anyone told him his suspenders are on backwards.

  • @mthompson

    @mthompson

    4 жыл бұрын

    No, they aren't. That's a set of Hikers suspenders....designed that way.

  • @ebbefinkandersen5177

    @ebbefinkandersen5177

    4 жыл бұрын

    Same as his bow, really..

  • @moigoi4641

    @moigoi4641

    4 жыл бұрын

    Ebbe Fink Andersen looks like he’s using a thumb release, so you’d want arrow on right side

  • @michaeli6424

    @michaeli6424

    4 жыл бұрын

    I was just being cheeky let’s not over react. I love this channel. Just forget people don’t have a sense of humor anymore

  • @yugen

    @yugen

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@ebbefinkandersen5177 lmao

  • @eotwawki1622
    @eotwawki16224 жыл бұрын

    Lol! When the guys says when you get pissed off enough to change! That's me on every shot! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 I'm trying to change my whole shot cycle less than a month before deer season just because I'm not happy with my shot.

  • @kentonward97
    @kentonward974 жыл бұрын

    I think you could add the idea of shooting maturity. It’s when you mature that you seek the answer. I have been shooting traditional since my last deployment as a way to help with the emotional difficulties from multiple deployments. So I started just hoping to get better but then I happened onto others that talk about Joel and others but it’s only now I understand that I do have target panic and to put it into words. I am working on decisions rather than reactions. I am able now to be pretty accurate out to 25 yards but now I am having a block at 30 yards so it’s now back to fundamentals of making decisions rather than fearing the distance. Seems as though “ shooting discipline “ is very appropriate as it takes discipline to master yourself.

  • @clayhayeshunter

    @clayhayeshunter

    4 жыл бұрын

    great point

  • @jabeita1

    @jabeita1

    2 жыл бұрын

    Beautiful!!! Goes way beyond archery, doesn't it!

  • @SupermanBB
    @SupermanBB3 жыл бұрын

    Awesome channel bro. Just stumbled upon your content. Easy decision to subscribe! Just ordered a recurve for me and my girlfriend! Can’t wait to get started 👊🏼👊🏼

  • @clayhayeshunter

    @clayhayeshunter

    3 жыл бұрын

    Awesome! Thank you!

  • @mikeharris3673
    @mikeharris36733 жыл бұрын

    Well explained, kind of the same theory as precision rifle.

  • @amygraham2416
    @amygraham24164 жыл бұрын

    For years I have found myself naturally settling my aim about 4 inches below where it should be and then struggling to move it up and release at the same time to hit the intended point. Am I the only one that does this? Recently I have found that if I simply practice coming to full draw, aim, and hold it, all the while knowing I am not going to shoot, I can hold it on target for a long time. This made me realize it is totally a mental thing and I have to be determined to get on target as soon as I'm at full draw and hold it there instead of 4 inches low. This video makes A LOT of sense and was very helpful! Will be watching it a few more times and making it a habit!

  • @clayhayeshunter

    @clayhayeshunter

    4 жыл бұрын

    Good for you Amy

  • @joshuawilliams194

    @joshuawilliams194

    3 жыл бұрын

    I do the exact same thing. I always draw low and come up to target and get stuck ever time about 4 inches under it. Then I have to jump it up and release to hit where I'm aiming. I gotta get out of it that's why I'm watching this video.

  • @galaxyknuckles9000
    @galaxyknuckles9000 Жыл бұрын

    This is yet another example of how powerful the process of “think, speak, act” is. Each part of the process builds into the next. This is why words and thoughts are powerful, because the rest of the process is always at the very least acknowledged.

  • @galaxyknuckles9000

    @galaxyknuckles9000

    Жыл бұрын

    Crazy cus I’m a beginner but I naturally built a lot of these habits after my initial lessons..I always take a second and say, “let’s go motha fuckah”, or “here we go”, to myself as I focus on stillness and release(and try not to affect my set up by releasing), sometimes I even whisper it, then I exhale and as soon as my exhale makes me still I release. And I continued to do it cus it always felt like those were my good shots, so I did it almost superstitiously until I saw this and made the connection.

  • @MatchstickDaddy
    @MatchstickDaddy3 жыл бұрын

    hes shooting with thumb draw and on the right side of the bow, super prevalent in Asian/East Asian and eastern european cultures and ancient societies. Really cool that the instructor is using that technique. I am trying to learn it. I have seen several videos of modern archers comenting on how strange it feels but also being amazed at how the technique works. Thumb draw and shooting on the right side of the bow offers several advantages not found in modern Mediterranean style of archery with the 3 finger draw and shooting from the left of the bow. This guy could basically do horse archery if he wanted to or probably already knows how. The thumb draw and shooting from the right side of the bow is also how genghis khan and the mongolians shot their bows.

  • @steven-adamski
    @steven-adamski2 жыл бұрын

    Great video!!!

  • @clayhayeshunter

    @clayhayeshunter

    2 жыл бұрын

    Glad you liked it!

  • @steven-adamski

    @steven-adamski

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@clayhayeshunter so inspiring! Learning a lot from your channel!

  • @everettcrabtree3156
    @everettcrabtree31562 жыл бұрын

    This same mentality is applied to close quarters combat rifle training. Slow is smooth..smooth is fast. The repetition of humble introspective mindset,fundamentals,muscle memory and finally subconsciously performing under pressure is a beautiful art of the human design.

  • @clayhayeshunter

    @clayhayeshunter

    2 жыл бұрын

    agreed

  • @jackgriffith9229
    @jackgriffith9229 Жыл бұрын

    Archers! Watch this post and listen carefully to this instructor. The points that he is making worked for me and NOTHING works for me!! I also found that practicing with one arrow forces an archer to think through the whole shot sequence all the way to the release. Did you pluck left or right? Did you pull straight back to get a HIT ? Enjoy!