No Lift Shifting a Muncie M22 Rockcrusher
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Flat on the gas every shift. Still clutch operated trans. Hurst vertigate inline shifter.
Gopro Hero 5 in car footage
Flat on the gas every shift. Still clutch operated trans. Hurst vertigate inline shifter.
Gopro Hero 5 in car footage
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This dude drives like a BOSS. Awesome sounding car . No way this new stuff will ever sound this good.
@slowpoke96Z28
Жыл бұрын
Thats cool. Guy in the new stuff can be already standing next to his car to listen when this awesome sound finally makes it to the finish line lol.
@Carla-tz7qw
Жыл бұрын
@@slowpoke96Z28 you could be a sales person at a feed yard with that much bullshit.😅😅
@travisrich2486
Жыл бұрын
You're definitely not a car guy
@fuffoon
7 ай бұрын
I think its mostly new all the same. It doesn't have a stock appearance.
@herbienbrian2
5 ай бұрын
@@slowpoke96Z28 You new age muscle car guys are so funny. All that money and horsepower and people still love my 130hp Crown Vic more 😂
Enjoyed the vid... good job! Back when I was your age, we were powershifting our junk without all that sissy straight gate, polished gear, rev limiter stuff. Back then, when you missed a gear, you paid a price... LOL. Keep doing what you're doing... you make old bastards like me get all nostalgic feelin.
@Brad355
Жыл бұрын
I hear ya, I wouldn't mind having another (maybe street) car to run an old Hurst Competition H pattern shift in, with a narrow piecrust rear tire
@lollipop84858
Жыл бұрын
Well the modern straight gate, sissy, polished blah blah blah pisses all over the old stuff in the amount of power and times it puts out so.... There is that
@Brad355
Жыл бұрын
@@lollipop84858 yep. Even just using a clutch to shift now is ancient, a modern clutchless tranny goes laps around anybody who touches the clutch pedal between gears
@synshenron798
Жыл бұрын
@@Brad355 its sad but true. Although I will say this. Id take a souped up power glide or TH400 over any modern transmission. Although nothing will ever bring a smile to my face like the whine of a rock crusher
@user-ev4pb9xj7e
Жыл бұрын
@@lollipop84858 that was back when real men drove race cars, something you wouldn’t know anything about😂😂😂😂
For you youngsters that may not realize how much balls that took..... We had no rev limiters back then. You missed the shift you kissed your motor goodbye. Great run thanks for the ride along. 😎
that's how ya drive a manual ladies 😉
This older ( h.s.) kid in our neighborhood had a red 454 Chevelle with this transmission. We'd stop our street hockey game just to listen his car as he creeped by us. Thanks for the memory Butchie!
I did what we called Power Shifting in 66 on my GTO. I held my breath but it did what I needed and never hurt it. Race on Sunday, wife sells Avon on Monday!
@klausvonschmit4722
Жыл бұрын
Your wife must be part unicorn because my wife no nothing on any day in my 65 chelleve I’ve had since 10th grade!
That was awesome stuff that the newest gen of car guys just don't get. The most beastly way to drag!!
@HR-rt9nh
6 ай бұрын
just have too..... the most beastly way to Drag ! lol ahh how the times have changed....
Freakin legit!! I've had M21's in my Chevelles back in the day never a M22. Always wanted a 22... Excellent shifting!
Nice wheelin. No line locks or 2 step. Just heel toe, go and grab gears. Respect!
That is the way I use to do it in the old days ( 70s )--- full throttle starts, shifting and never lifting off the gas---and go low 9s--- what fun! I agree with the comment below, no rev limiter, and a H pattern shifter
Crushing rocks with a Super Nova! Music to my ears, Brad Max...
CALLED IT SAWING WOOD IN THE GOOD OL DAYS!!🙌🏾💯
@owensweetland342
2 ай бұрын
Lmfao 😂😂😂!
@chuckybooker1964
2 ай бұрын
YESSIREE
I read something about how the late, great Bill 'Grumpy' Jenkins would grind 1/3 of the top of every other tooth on each gear to make it easier to slam-shift.
@Strike_Raid
6 ай бұрын
Odd since the gears don't actually change, they're always engaged. 'Gears' are selected using lock collars engaging splines (or teeth). Maybe he did some grinding in there but I doubt it was on gears.
it drives my old ass crazy. Watching these young guys shifting their boosted cars. And lifting between shifts. WTF? They even lose all their boost again WTF? Back in the '70s, I could shift my car so smoothly. It sounded like a 4 speed automatic. You did a very good job shifting like ya should with a stick. Glad to see this.
@Brad355
Жыл бұрын
There’s a lot of time lost when you lift on the shift. A stick shift and boost just sounds like a tuning nightmare
@beetlebuilder5882
Жыл бұрын
@@Brad355I built a 98 C1500 this winter. I put a turbo charged 6.0 ls in it with a Doug Nash 4+3. The turbo doesn't really work that great with a manual transmission. It is a fun truck to drive though and I just drive it as a daily driver though.
@Brad355
Жыл бұрын
@@beetlebuilder5882 sounds like a riot. I bet it’s a ton of fun when it’s in gear and starts building boost
Beautiful noise 😊
Killer stuff man, and that car sounds incredible!!
@Brad355
Жыл бұрын
Thank you, appreciate it
I always thought the right pedal was just to be held to the floor until the traps are behind me, I knew I was right!😂
Your shifts are so spot on sounds like an automatic. Keep On Thro-ing!!!
@Tenn1972
9 ай бұрын
Get out of here it does not sound like an automatic it’s a stick shift. If you don’t know the difference, then go learn but don’t insult a stick shift car. You have no idea what you’re talking about.
@chrishansen7004
8 ай бұрын
@@Tenn1972jeez bro calm down a little bit
@Tenn1972
8 ай бұрын
@@chrishansen7004 Chris, you sound like a little guy? Don't tell a man to calm down. Little man.
BALLS TO THE WALL! Awesome 🤙😎✌!
That's the way we did it in the 60's and 70's. On the other hand I can tell you I rebuilt a lot of m20,m21 and m2 in the day, but that did not stop me! Real Men can do it without lifting!
@juicebox853
Жыл бұрын
Sure you did.
@JimmyYahteez
Жыл бұрын
Real men don’t do it with a vertical gate they do it with an H pattern shift pattern.
Reminds Me of the Late 60's and thru the early 70's! Power shifting is a lost art today! This Video brought a smile to My Old Wrinkled face! I remember that sound only too well!
That was really cool. I split the windshield down the middle on my '69 Camaro at the strip doing exactly that. 😆
I did that with a Ford toploader in my 69 Mach. good stuff!
@patrickshaw8595
Жыл бұрын
Toploader best trans for the money. Chrysler Hemi 4 speed strongest OEM stick. Muncie-anythings are not in the same class.
That was a great take-me-back! Love those cool S&W HD gauges and tach..... the bitchin Mr Gasket V-Gate shifter....that alluring fast rough idle via open headers with hi-comp snare.....and those old school V-stacks sprouting through the hood......every Saturday night!!!
@Brad355
18 күн бұрын
Thank you appreciate it. Have been very careful to try to keep the car as period correct as possible, the worst offender is really the mini shift light hidden under the dash. I’ve been back and forth on whether to keep it or not, I never really look at it anyways
@banacekishere3857
18 күн бұрын
@@Brad355 No...KEEP it....just think of it as a Grumpy Jenkins innovation, cuz that's where Dick Moroso got most of his products to sell us all.....FROM RACERS like YOU!!!!
I shifted like that in my '66 Corvette; pop clutch, pedal down, never lift, 1 through 4. Didn't watch the tach, engine sound only. Ahhh, the 70's. Good times.
Had a 68 GTO in 72. We called it speed shifting. I won a lot of races doing that when the other guys couldn't or wouldn't.
@lw216316
Жыл бұрын
Bill - I'm no expert but I think there is a difference between speed shifting and power shifting - with power shifting the gas pedal stays floored and with speed shifting the gas will lift quickly and back down - maybe some of the experts and help us out.
@danmyers9372
Жыл бұрын
@@lw216316- You are correct. Back in the speed shifting was shifting normally (letting off the gas, depressing the clutch and shifting the gear) as quickly as possible. Power shifting was the same as speed shifting except you never lifted off the gas. The 2-3 shift in an H pattern tranny was always the scary one. If you didn’t do it just right…
@lw216316
Жыл бұрын
@@danmyers9372 If I recall , with power shifting you would shift below red line because the engine would rev higher in-between shifts because you kept the gas pedal down. If you shifted at red line then the engine would over-rev and maybe blow up -is that right?
@Brad355
11 ай бұрын
@@lw216316 you’re right, but it’s not always that cut and dry. You have to assume the motor will climb 400-600 rpm on the shift, and for a very short moment in time that may be ok for some motors and catastrophic for others.
No sissy, automatic here! Wow!
AWESOME! well executed. I loved my M22 rock crusher 69 396 Chevelle SS. till one day I broke the shifter rite off the tail stock and punched a dent into the dash board. the only race I ever lost.🤬
always love those old school V8 sound, this new crap still doesn't compare to feeding a gas station right into an old american muscle carb.
Holly shift😮! Electric cars may be faster, but the sound of a runaway golf cart just don't cut it.
I had the Hurst in line shifter with lock out reverse in my 76 Ventura. I had a lot of fun burning up tires.
Brings back Memories.
The word we used back in the 70s was Banging Gears. Ford top loader transmission we're the strongest transmission. Mopar 18 spline was next leaving the Rock crusher 3rd for strength and durability.
@Brad355
Жыл бұрын
Never know what to call it, I posted a video about a year ago titled bangshifting and everybody was up in arms about it being “power shifting” this, “speed shifting” that, whatever. It’s damn fun is what it is
And that ladies and gentlemen.....is how it's done!!!!!
HAd an M22 in my 66 Chevelle SS I had in High School... Much respect for that trans...
10 plus fast ,couldn't done faster. Dude you're the best. Better than me, just don't tell my wife.
My friend Krause would be proud. Very nice.
No missing that gas peddle.Nice gear bangin' there!😎👍✌🇨🇦
indeed. the best thing that came out of indiana. i loved it,,
Hell yes that's the only way to shift!!!
My favorite transmission...,had one behind a 283
Great job, that's how to get the job done.
Rockcrusher! What a name ! 😎
Dude knows his shit. I respect the shoes also. I’m fasted in flat shoes too.
Smooth as a velvet hammer
still used the clutch....i do miss those transmissions.
@Brad355
Жыл бұрын
Yep. Never tried a clutchless transmission, wouldn’t mind trying one in something really fast one day.
In the 80's, I went through lots of Muncie's in my 69 Malibu. They were cheap back then. I remember buying a M21 from a guy for only $75
Back in "the day" we called it power shifting. We would grind all the teeth off 2nd 3rd and 4th synchro rings and hammer the hell out of them. Someone else here said we did a lot of rebuilding. Very true statement. Lol
@GroovesAndLands
Жыл бұрын
Liberty's gears got his start, grinding 2/3s the engagement dogs off the speed gears and sliders from the old 4 speeds. Much easier to poke a stick through a picket fence when it's missing 2/3 of its slats!
Yep, the way i used to run my nova in my younger years.. Not bragging but a bit faster. Had that muncie apart several times, first replacing the synchro slip rings and several times shimming the gear set and input shaft so everything fell into place. Floor it and start yankin gears, missed very few times.. Still have my first car 40 years later but as a dumb kid, i thought i wanted to bracket race so the muncie was sold and a turbo 350 was built. The car was actually 2 tenths slower with the automatic then when i was running the 4 speed.
@davidcamp3045
Жыл бұрын
I almost did that. I had a 60 chev longbed. 355, m-21 , 3.90 posi. I ran 6 - 13.80s in a row one night... Good times and what a hoot on the street..
@danmyers9372
Жыл бұрын
Slightly slower but WAY more consistent which is what wins (along with RT’s) in bracket racing. Definitely not as much fun though.
@kimmer6
11 ай бұрын
@@davidcamp3045 Those were the days. I did 11.26 at 124 mph at Irwindale on Grudge Night....in a 1952 Willys 2 wheel drive flat fendered Jeep. I had a Z-28 350, Sig Erson roller cam, Edelbrock XC-8 cross ram, and 2 Hollies, port and polish 2.02 heads, 12 bolt 4.56 posi GM rear end. Can't remember if it was the close ratio Borg Warner Super T-10 4 speed or the Muncie M-22 in it. I had 4 different trans in it and swapped parts like they were underwear. Weber aluminum flywheel, too. I had paddle tires and could climb anything at the Pismo Dunes. Then the gas crunch hit. I only ran it at the drags twice. The first time I thought the windshield would rip off. The second time after removing the windshield I watched the air bulge the hood up and pictured it slamming into my fingers even before getting to the finish lights. I cruised Van Nuys Blvd in that thing. Those were great times.
Beautiful!
That's why it's called the rock crusher
Nice driving nice shifting
I never knew powershifting had other names. Back in the 70's it was my only way to row my Camaro. Used to sound like the dash was going to blow off the firewall.
Shifting like Grumpy 👍
Yes, no lift at all in the front end.
The Car Gods are pleased
A coworker was working on the 5.7L Hemi Challenger but I needed to borrow it to do some testing of my own. When I gave him back the keys, he asked me what I thought about it. Told him it was fun, and it was cool that it could bark 4th gear. He told me there was NO WAY it would do that. So I demonstrated. He'd never seen or heard about a flatshift before. He was in awe and asked me how I did it. Lolz. Simple, bro - keep the throttle wide open, dip into the clutch and change up just as fast as you possibly can!
@n9amiwavelengthradio
Жыл бұрын
Yea these kiddies are morons. Had the same car and chirped the bitch all the time.
@robertbuston1951
Жыл бұрын
Flat shifting man I must be old "power shifting ", young whisper snapper😂
Vertical Gate baby!
drive it like ya stole it
That’s just bangin.
I miss my Chevelle, Muncie, 12 bolt combination. Analog no lift shift!
Learned to drive on 2.52 Muncie. Always Wide open shifts when it counted. 2.20 Muncie (Rock Crusher) was slower off line, or so we thought. Both broke regularly but we're plentiful & easy to fix.
We called that power shifting back in the sixties and seventies. Gas pedal to the floor and it didn't come up till the end of the track. Art from Ohio
Nice pov
That’s how I shift my 63 Rambler American with its built 343 Javelin engine.🇺🇸👍
Hell yeah brother 👊😎🇺🇸
The video explanation of the reason they're called "Rock Crusher" when the engine noses over, trans falls into gear! Works best with close ratio "22"
i had an M22 in my 68 Camaro behind a 4 bolt main 350 sbc . loved that car and that transmission . should have never sold it .
@holtless
Жыл бұрын
Had an M22 close ratio in my '69 427 Vette...fun times!!
@pappy451
Жыл бұрын
@@holtless some would say too much fun . . . but not me !
Nice!
Those were the days,the roaring 60’S
Good days. Great box. Used to do that with my toploader. Wasn't pushing that horsepower though.
Had an M22 behind my 455 HO 70 TransAm took everything my motor had and that tranny whine was awesome cruising..lol 👍😎
Your Right Old School Rules
Love M22😊❤
@aarongarcia1101
Ай бұрын
It is a gear jammer! Yes❤
yeah baby!!
Yes, that's the way
I should have NEVER sold my ‘64 Chevy ll 2 door no post. Ugh It’s not the dumbest thing I ever did but boy howdy it ranks right up there
Had the same setup on my 72 Chevelle in the early eighties.
Bad Ass Sir!!!
I never lifted with the M22 in my SS, a Competition Plus, a deft hand and clutch foot practice and there was no reason to.
Respect for the shifts, and also the converse. Cant wait to be doing this with my 69 mustang
That used to be called a "power shift" 40 or more years ago. Not hard, but takes a little practice to find the initial release point of the clutch. I am out of practice for quite a few years now.
That's exactly how I used to shift my 1967 Malibu with a 327 CI and a 4 speed.
Kids nowadays don't have a clue what its like to drive a Muncie 4-speed it's almost like it's violent and going to explode and you don't really care as you're holding it to the floor banging the gears LOL.
Nice
Nothing new here I did that 50 years ago at US 30 Dragstrip in my 1955 Ford !
I'd give it two thumbs up if it let me.
It's Cute how he still uses the clutch to shift.
@Brad355
Жыл бұрын
God gave you two feet, didn’t he?
@randallhaney7909
Жыл бұрын
@@Brad355 Yup for gas & Brake no Clutch after you're rolling
@Brad355
Жыл бұрын
@@randallhaney7909 I guess I just don’t get it. If that’s all you want to do, you could run an automatic and hook the transbrake switch to the clutch pedal to pretend you’re leaving with a clutch. You paid for the whole clutch, you can use it every shift
@randallhaney7909
Жыл бұрын
@@Brad355 Well that's about the best 8 year old mentality retort I've ever had the pleasure of rolling my eyes at
@Brad355
Жыл бұрын
@@randallhaney7909 seriously though, why bother with a clutchless stick when you could go faster and tune easier with an auto? I’ve always wondered
I own a '70 GTX with a pretty strong 440 that runs low 12"s. I still run the factory pistol grip shifter. Some day I'll figure out how to set up a Go Pro camera and have a great time watching it get a good workout!!
@Brad355
Жыл бұрын
I clamp mine with a bar mount around the roll bar, but I’ve also used a suction cup mount on the passenger window before. And ran a suction cup outside the car on the back glass
@steven9428
Жыл бұрын
The actual mechanics of getting mounted isn't the problem. The problem is I am probably the least tech savvy guy you would ever meet!
Geez….I had the same steering wheel and Hurst shift handle in my 66 Chevelle 😢😢😢😢
I have been schooled !!!
I had a M22 in my 69 L78 Nova and sometimes I would shift without clutching.
That's a power shift. Other videos purporting to illustrate a power shift but they're wrong. You don't lift power shifting.
that's how I always won on the street!!
I shifted the same way with an H pattern, it's even faster if you take the rubber off the clutch pedal and let your foot slip off 3/4 of the way down. Just don't let it hit you in the shins. Never blew an engine, you miss, let off quick. You'll know.
PowerPoint here we gooooo
Never heard of it called No-lift. It was called it power shifting.
FUCKIN GITTIN IT
Nice! Whats it run?
Early nova