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Nassir for the win! 🇳🇴🙌
@chrhelm
3 жыл бұрын
"Ja"
Same here, April 2019 Model 3 Long Range Dual Motor, 67.000km, no issues, no service. Very happy :)
@kasmopaya2676
3 жыл бұрын
Extremely impressive. Model 3/Y GOAT!
@scottwills4698
3 жыл бұрын
Mine broke at 156 miles and Tesla spent 6 months trying to fix it. After several attempts and being towed a few times they gave up and refunded me 🤷🏼♂️
@kasmopaya2676
3 жыл бұрын
@@scottwills4698 Sounds impossible, just change the parts the computer says are faulty. The Easiest thing in the world. What kind of problems did the car have?
@scottwills4698
3 жыл бұрын
@@kasmopaya2676 It would throw up load of alarms like "motor disconnected" and "secondary restraint system off" and then it would just go in to limp mode and shut down. If you then restarted the car it would be fine again for a while. Apparently Tesla service changed all the wiring looms and most of the key components and it kept breaking down. The UK service team also linked the car to Tesla USA who also couldn't find the fault.
@kasmopaya2676
3 жыл бұрын
@@scottwills4698 Very uncommon for a Model 3. Thanks for the info. But China build quality is leagues ahaid. Room for improvement. Let's hope Giga Berlin is as good as China. Getting a Y next year.
Hell yeah! Nassir is back!
Super interesting and very good to know about Bosch service expertise. Nassir is great explainer.
Amazing, great to see the Model 3 holding up so well. We only have 25.000 km on our Model 3 so far, it has been a blast. My dad just had his first service appointment at around 60.000 km / 2 years and they changed to left upper control arm under warranty (He does drive like a maniac, so no surprise there) other than that they cleaned the brakes and added new air filters, that is it after 60k km! Tesla sure did make a great car with the model 3.
@dragospahontu
2 жыл бұрын
Do you think batteries in EVs will be able to hold up for more than 10 years?
@Arpedk
2 жыл бұрын
@@dragospahontu Easy.
@dragospahontu
2 жыл бұрын
@@Arpedk nice
@dragospahontu
2 жыл бұрын
@@Arpedk I've seen a lot of used Tesla's on sale with batteries changed, this makes me think twice
@Arpedk
2 жыл бұрын
@@dragospahontu most likely from salvaged cars. The batteries survives most crashes. The batteries from old Teslas are a lot different from new ones, and remember they are making 1.2 million car per year now.
Bjørn, Your videos with Nassir are always very informative and interesting. Nassir is so knowledgeable and he is a pleasure to listen to. Please do more videos with him if you can. Thanks!
This was so informative, thanks to both of you for showcasing the wear and tear. Really surprise of the condition after so many ppl driving it!
Another priceless video, packed with data ! Thanks TeslaBjorn
Thank you for a great walk-through. We also have the LR from Mar -19. No issues yet either. Keeping a close eye on the brakes. Just got the HW3 upgrade and now it's even better.
Thank you for showing around the car
It is good to show this , a lot of rust business people said Model 3 wouldn't last a year without treatment. My march 19 3p still has no rust and paint excellent. 40K Km. West coast, salty.
Great stuff. Love all the videos with Nassir. Love to learn about new ways to keep my car in like-new condition:)
Nassir is great with the explanations
MG Listens to Björn. Bilexperten listens to Björn. So I listen to Bjorn. Oh and ABRP also listen to Björn. 👂
Will you include more Tesla rust inspections ? Would be super interesting and very relevant !!
Love this content. Interesting to see how things hold up over some time. Model X next?
Very interesting. Thanks Bjørn and Nassir. Next time I drive to Norway, I will book an appointment with him to inspect my car 🙂 (I live in Belgium)
I rented this car when I was in Norway!
@ldti
3 жыл бұрын
And I think Nassir delivered the car..
@ME-cb1vw
3 жыл бұрын
@@ldti but you weren't offroading with it?
@ldti
3 жыл бұрын
@@ME-cb1vw no no, that wasn't us. We drove strictly on roads.
@stevem3439
3 жыл бұрын
Promise? 🤣
@ldti
3 жыл бұрын
@@stevem3439 yep. We rented it 2019. This looks like a more recent damage.
That water in the rear light is definitely not normal, it can happen over time a little bit but it means that there is a leak. Tesla should definitely replace that unit under warranty as this should definitely fall under warranty.
@KennyBoyy427
3 жыл бұрын
It happened on my Model 3 aswell, I scheduled appointment on the Tesla app and they came to my house and replaced the rear light under warranty with no issues at all.
Watching rants on run down/older EVs is such a goldmine! I didn't care sheeet about cars before getting an EV, but now, I can be the centre of the party again!
Great to know how it’s holding up, mine is coming to 18months on Shetland 👍
Thanx, Bjørn! Would be interesting with similar videos with other popular EVs at similar age and mileage, like the Ioniq, eGolf or Soul. Very useful when considering buying a used EV :)
Great video again, now extra special because of the guy in the tree in the first part ^^
yes , more technical info
the "Bjorn Value" - its Like KBB (Kelly Blue Book) value in USA.
I have the same door noise in my TM3 LR...since it was brand new!!
2:35 Alex from Elektrisiert channel also had the Same cracking noises with one of the doors
paint chips in front of the rear wheel arches is very common, starting to get some on my passenger side, cars not even 6 months old. should be fitted with PPF from factory or thicker paint in these areas. would love to see more garages like Nassir's open up around the world
Very interesting. That mechanic knows his Teslas!
Would be nice to also compare to model S 2015 and 2017 for a kind of expected wear and tear. The model S has a completely different service plan. The forums are filled with it, though. I know you did the Melinium Falcon, but it is an early model with a little more than usual wear and tear.
The click sound when open and close the doors occurs as a combination of a built-in spring in the door stopper and a pin in a hole that has been worn a bit so there is a play between hole and pin. The combination of this play and the spring pull which alternates between pressing and pulling on the door gives the click sound. The solution is: a new part, a slightly larger pin or a slightly smaller hole. None of the last 2 are easy to perform.
You can replace tailgate lights while still on warranty. I replaced mine with no questions ask, had same issue
Tesla Model 3 is Ninja! Great review you two ninjas 👍😎
Mine has same age and same mileage, mostly AC charge and mostly charged to 80-90%. 71,4 kWh nominal full pack. Battery degradation seems not reliable and has been removed from latest version (along with 12V battery: that’s a pity!)
I've had the same noise problem with the driver door. I booked a service with Tesla and they fixed it for free :) (two years old M3LR)
You'd better check them check straps cuz if they snap or break beyond their limits you will mess up your door/paint work and the nice smooth panels will be nice crinkly ones 🤣. Saw a skoda octavia door strap snap in a storm the whole rear door and front door was bolloxed. Not kidding.
Would love to see an update on a door hinge fix.
@phazondude117
3 жыл бұрын
I also have the hinge issue in my front passenger seat (Model 3 Standard 2019)
@danielstefanovic2604
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah i doubt they gonna fix it, could take it on warranty but il bet tesla is just gonna blame it on wear and tear.
@simonyapp
3 жыл бұрын
Doesn’t the arm just need greasing ?
@danielstefanovic2604
3 жыл бұрын
@@simonyapp No the check strap needs to be replaced, seems like common fault. teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/clicking-creaking-front-door-hinges.182569/
That tailight is warranty, and the door hinges are warranty too, mine has it.
Wow! Thanks Bjorn. Tesla reported Model 3 now outsells BMW 3 Series. Now we know the car is meant to last. Amazing.
The same door noise has been solved for my Model 3 LR march 2019 here in Italy under warranty. Is an issue not so unusual for the Model 3 1st gen;)
Tesla should use ABRP as a service, it's great!
Great video thank you Can you do a video looking at old model X? Also your guys opinion on what is your favorite used Tesla S 3 or X
"It has some scratches on the tire.": visible steel cords on sidewall
@ElmosWelt101
3 жыл бұрын
That thing is done.
@bjornnyland
3 жыл бұрын
Exactly. Done... D O N
@laurilaidna795
3 жыл бұрын
It'll buff out
@mixer8774
2 жыл бұрын
I came to the comments to find this specific comment. That guy was nuts for thinking that was normal. That is going to blow any day now and might cause an accident to a renter
10% degradation here on M3P after 70k Alsmost 50/50 AC/DC, but lot of it was DC at max 50kW chargers, so long time charging at high celltemperature (always with DC charging) I suppose
Used EV Videos FTW! Please do some technical checks on old i3 as well!
23:41 that front lif arm isint in corret lifting point it is bit too front and lifting from battery. ohter side is in corret lift point.
16:10 I have a 2019 Model 3 Performance that had a noisy upper control arm, and tesla replaced it under warranty.
The thing that amazes me: with such reliable car and all advanced diagnostic systems, it’s still a nightmare to get appointment at their service and get car fixed in time.
It is only 2 years. I would call it as brand new :)
@mixer8774
2 жыл бұрын
They are referring to the miles it has
@mixer8774
2 жыл бұрын
Its about 4 years worth of driving, still not old, but not new. I would say thoroughly used
My Model 3 has the same birthday as this one. At least my delivery date. It was Used but March 22nd is it's birthday as far as I am concerned ^_^
Can you please check on the front lower control arm bushings? There seems to be a common fault with at least 2019 cars that now run in the 60+kkm driven range. On my car both sides are wiped out at 70k. Not normal wear but totally disintegrated! German specialist say, common fault.
A test of a model x would be nice.
25:35 i think that center one is drain hole so difucer dosent accumulate water. but this car has diferent difucer than mine because i have tow hook openig (even when i dont have tow pakgage) so i cant say for sure.
I changed both front wheel bearings on model 3 long range after 58 000km
I had similar front passenger door issue on my 2018 model 3. Tesla repaired under warranty.
Very informative, thank you Björn and Nassir! Could you share what type of mud flaps are used here? I think I've seen the kind you use and I think I will buy them but would love your recommendation. Also I heard they might collect mud behind them that can cause rust over time. Did you see any sign of this? Seems like a durable car but what more things would you recommend doing to a Model 3 more than mud flaps and possible some PPF in front of the back wheels?
My private car had that. Check strap changed under warranty
Rust shouldn't be a problem before 5-7 years of use at any modern car - even in Norway. Moreover most of the body panels of the model 3 consist of aluminium. The structural steel parts are not visible from the outside.
@18:34 they did not use the official "hole" for jacking up the car. wouldn't this damage the battery?
Hi Bjorn, a note on battery degradation. ABRP also is capable of picking up the degradation the BMS is guessing. Can you confirm that ABRP is in fact getting the actual degradation cross referenced with your OBD app? I think if we can establish that the BMS is estimating the degradation somewhat accurately we may be able to use ABRP info from the linked Tesla.
If that was my own car that was in that condition after 70k - I would definitely say it had some big issues. But I like mine to stay like new - in mint condition. But the technical condition its good - and when its your own car you dont treat it like a loaner. So all in all - good to see that TM3 is ok after 70k
@XxBloggs
2 жыл бұрын
Cars in Norway get a beating compared to most other places.
Its suspension is aluminium alloy , not a steel. So how can it has rust.
@FutureChaosTV
3 жыл бұрын
Never seen a rusty aluminium foil? Aluminium doesn't rust easily but it is not immune. Also, an *alloy* as the name says is not 100% aluminium anyways.
@alexlo7708
3 жыл бұрын
@@FutureChaosTV It will break if its 100% Al. Alloy are made to compromise between stiffness and ductile on metal.
@bgbthabun627
3 жыл бұрын
@Alex Lo while most of the suspension is made from forged aluminium I did notice two parts at least that were steel. these are the components that were rusted, and in both cases where the paint was damaged.
Actually I had Tesla service replace the door straps that make that noise. They came to my home and the service was free, under warranty. This is a known problem.
as people say: don't be gentle it's a rental.
@kasmopaya2676
3 жыл бұрын
Drive it like you stole it, every f. day. ^^
Could you check how much sand, dirt and schmutz there is on the plastic covers under the car? Front and rear.
I am very interested in the battery degradation of the Model 3. Like how does or doesn’t DC charging effect it. More stats.
While lithium grease on the door hinge will fix it up.
How much is important to tight rims at 175 Nm? Did you ever experience any fault related to low tightening torque ?
ScanMyTesla: Odometer: 70930 km Distance: 70207 km - maybe Tesla knows it overreports distance on the odometer? :) Edit: false alarm, Distance can be reset to 0 km, with ScanMyTesla: kzread.info/dash/bejne/qmuCrKukf8zYhqg.html
@odjojo
3 жыл бұрын
noticed that too, reduces tesla warranty?
Some one has driven that along and up a very high kerb and slipped down!
Look what happend here! Probably the builders for your new house ;)
Out of all the cars you've tested which brand/model do you think fits best as a taxi? Tesla is not an option due to being too far away from a tesla workshop. It's gonna be driven about 100.000 km a year for about 3-4 years
Wow that front right tire should be replaced asap. As soon as the inner belt is visible the tire is compromised and could blow out when stressed.
It is amazing but you have to test 4 passenger + driver thank you.
How did they manage to ruin a madcap! I call them abusive drivers !
condensation in lights is a problem of LED lights and a universal problem across cars now using LED lights. They don't produce enough heat to push the water out.
@mixer8774
2 жыл бұрын
They are supposed to be sealed... water tight. There was a leak, not from lights not being hot. Not sure about other cars but most are water tight
Did you put the steering in comfort mode? Makes it very easy to steer on my 2 year old SR+
@bjornnyland
3 жыл бұрын
Yes
ABRP - works great
My real question is wether this car is housed in a garage or not, when not being used. For us that don't have a carport it could degrade a lot faster
Minimal damages on rental use. I have been handle rentals and they are many times badly handeled.. On purpose or by accident. Some people who rent cars do not drive much and their capability to handle is not so good. And one might be more careless if it is not your own car and you have taken full insurance coverage.
The car needs a wheel alignment
Did the person who rented the car payed for de damage scratch etc ? I rented a car ones in Norway had a small scratch on the front and payed €1400 ?
Is it for sale?
So, an overall consumption around 210 Wh/Km (70000 Km with 8000 KWh DC charging plus 7000KWh AC charging), correct?
@ChristophLeitl
3 жыл бұрын
70.000 km with 13.000 kWh = 18,5 Wh/km
@bjornnyland
3 жыл бұрын
Minus at least 10-15 % for charging loss, preheating, sentry mode, etc.
@jarsmoreira
3 жыл бұрын
@@bjornnyland Thanks a lot for pointing that out!!! Yes, that's true, but even so, we have to pay for it all, i.e., in other words, the energy that we have to pay for running the car it's the sum of the actual consumption, plus all the losses in the process of charging and using the car. Like so, how do the several OEM brands compare to each other, when we take in consideration not only actual consumption shown on the onboard computer, but also everything else? For example, as we see on your tests, heating and the different type of heating elements, play a big role in that sense , also internal resistance of the battery and others (although I think that all of those values are accounted for in the consumption shown by the onboard computer).
@eurimcoplimsoll1117
3 жыл бұрын
@@ChristophLeitl 186Wh/km or 298 Wh/mile
It should ne in that shape after 2 years. As every other car should :)
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Slow charging with AC to 100% calibrates the battery and when you leave right away, there is not that much harm to the battery. Interesting. Fast DC charging is really not good. But does it really matter with the million-mile battery -> 4680. Probably a little bit. ABC -> Alway be Charging-AC.
does "Regenerated" count as DC Charge?
@mixer8774
2 жыл бұрын
Yes, it creates a DC current, but technically all charging to the battery is DC because even when plugging into an AC outlet there is an on board inverter to convert it to DC current. Obviously it is not at all the same as a DC fast charger.
Would you expect rust on a 2 year old car? Hopefully not, but in a 6 or 8-year-old car I would if it didn't have any rust protection from the factory.
@bjornnyland
3 жыл бұрын
Remember that we're talking about salted roads in winter here.
@danedane6613
3 жыл бұрын
@@bjornnyland Thanks for the answer. In DK they are also very happy with different kinds of salt solutions on the roads :-) With a moisture content of 85% in DK, Denmark lies in the "rustbelt" from Northern Germany to Southern Sweden. Mercedes experienced some serious rust problems with their E-class (also B and C-class if I remember correctly) from 1996-2003. I really hope the best for Tesla, that they don't rust. Especially since I'm the joyful owner of a TM3LR 2021. I got it Dinitrol treated in the doors, hood, trunk, wheel arches, bottom etc. It would be very interesting to see you make a rust-check on a TM3 again in a couple of years :-)
@BabyBugBug
Жыл бұрын
@@bjornnylandYou have to wash the salt off. Common knowledge in cold climates like upstate NY where I live.
They did not use proper lifting points 🤭
my Audi A3 from 2009 has non of these Issues. Kinda disspointing from Tesla.
Pitty there is no degradation displayed for the Model S 🤔
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Man renters can be such jerks
Lifting points fail….
What the fck you saying? No rust after 2 years? My Hyundai 1997,25 years and 330.000km and no rust 😂
@dragospahontu
2 жыл бұрын
Yes, but for Tesla it is surprising.
@dimitrismandas
2 жыл бұрын
@@dragospahontu and what that mean? The Hyundai before 25 years have better sheet metal against rust?
@dragospahontu
2 жыл бұрын
@@dimitrismandas Peugeot, Opel, Citröen, those cars are tanks
70K km is not much for a car guys.
Don't be gentle it's a rental.
You should not have rust on a 2 year old car.
@KP-xi4bj
9 ай бұрын
Tell that to Mazda. LOL