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  • @xFSNSaber
    @xFSNSaber Жыл бұрын

    I used Caitlyn because according to u.gg she is most played in Gold

  • @Geert_Stradmeijer

    @Geert_Stradmeijer

    Жыл бұрын

    Ofcourse you did ;)

  • @yessir1913

    @yessir1913

    Жыл бұрын

    Good thing I always ban cait if not first pick

  • @Nuray653

    @Nuray653

    Жыл бұрын

    Can you do Ashe plz ?

  • @DanteCrowlley

    @DanteCrowlley

    Жыл бұрын

    BASED

  • @DanteCrowlley

    @DanteCrowlley

    Жыл бұрын

    @@yessir1913 Ban Jinx, it will save you

  • @theprofessor2403
    @theprofessor2403 Жыл бұрын

    This video is exactly what what the educational league community strives to be. Its not a 30 kill stomp, its not a premade. You explain every single action and don't fast forward. This video was like a breath of fresh air. Thank you Saber.

  • @saulp.vazquez9500
    @saulp.vazquez9500 Жыл бұрын

    Damn, Saber. You've always been one of if not the best educational adc creator in KZread but this video is sooo good for us hardstuck gold players. Thank you. Would be amazing if you could make a series about this kind of things with live gameplay explaining your thought process

  • @JB-su6cu
    @JB-su6cu Жыл бұрын

    I just want you to know that you inspired me to play adc again after this video. I put down my leona, grabbed my trusty varus and went 22 cs at 10 minutes in gold. Thanks saber!

  • @solinhogm

    @solinhogm

    Жыл бұрын

    OMG IT WAS YOU jk

  • @Bobbobbob984
    @Bobbobbob984 Жыл бұрын

    You should make this a series to differentiate it from the other videos.

  • @xFSNSaber

    @xFSNSaber

    Жыл бұрын

    hmm how so?

  • @matteocoutant4282

    @matteocoutant4282

    Жыл бұрын

    @@xFSNSaber different champs, different scenarios, you keeping a cool head and explaining your thought process. This was great.

  • @unbotheredwaffle

    @unbotheredwaffle

    Жыл бұрын

    @@matteocoutant4282 that actually sounds so good wtf

  • @veronicazyurnyayeva1417

    @veronicazyurnyayeva1417

    Жыл бұрын

    @@xFSNSaberor just more Cait gameplays in gold to explain these different situations, showing us what you would do in the different gold fiesta circus moments.

  • @tayooyebola5769

    @tayooyebola5769

    Жыл бұрын

    @@xFSNSaber i think videos like what to do in low elo when you cant do what you know you're supposed to would be very good. like most ppl in this game youre playing would try freeze the wave for their supp to all in. but then would lose lane as they got poked out and their supp did nothing. you didnt do what youre 'naturally supposed to do' in a trade vs all in lane but still won coz u tested ur ooponent and made them show how bad they are and found a way to win/ create advantages. i think ppl in low elo (or ppl that fall into low elo) are bad at that....we assume ppl are better than they are maybe? good vids IMO would be how to lane when youre heavily outranged. or vs a hardpush lane with no jung support (xerath cait vs kaisa panth) how to mitigate losing in lane with a roaming supp (twitch ap supp). or what to do when your supp roams at in opportune times. how to mid game vs assassin when you cant mid lane. how to itemize vs dive comps but still do dmg. i dunno they could maybe be very short videos but i think ppl would watch them. i think a lot of gold adcs understand the normal standard games. its when the games get chaotic and you cant get to that 3 item spike coz top is gigafed as a tank or your cant get peel or u cant farm mid, or your team forever fights, supp doesnt care about u etc. the only way you would get these games though would be playing a low in gold elo and im not sure ANYBODY wants to go through that. or you can watch ppls games that could be sent to you and talk through mistakes. or as ppl play you can chat to them and whilst they talk through what they want to do you can tell them whats right or wrong ... my fave content (other than your education coaching vids) was skillcappeds bronze to diamond series...where they coached a noob to diamond. (i actually think he only got to high gold but the content was very useful and the live coaching on decision was good coz it was a noob doing it. not someone smurfing for a couple games and thats it. if he can do it then so can i

  • @michaeldoyle6163
    @michaeldoyle6163 Жыл бұрын

    This is the best guide I've ever seen on how to actually win games. People give tons and tons of tips but seeing it in a full game format, where you not only give good advice but explain WHY it's good, is so invaluable. Thank you!!

  • @semaj1000
    @semaj1000 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for this, I appreciate jumping to the lower elo's. I just love the full playthrough commentary, super helpful, even more so when it is in the lower elo's (for me personally because I am there haha).

  • @zacariahrangel398
    @zacariahrangel398 Жыл бұрын

    I've been watching your channel for a while now and i love how speak your mind, you show us your thinking process and guide through the game. I learn a lot of this kind of videos

  • @blake1376
    @blake1376 Жыл бұрын

    love this content, this video stands out to me as helpful and amusing among a sea of clickbait videos with similar descriptions promising to deliver the ultimate game-altering tips and tricks but failing to deliver anything of substance. thanks, i appreciate this.

  • @veronicazyurnyayeva1417
    @veronicazyurnyayeva1417 Жыл бұрын

    We need more! Ignoring what your team is doing and going for the wave usually means they'll all die and spam ping you. Or situations where your teammates are caught out on repeat?

  • @demoman32

    @demoman32

    Жыл бұрын

    You're teammates are bad. They are spam pinging you, because they are bad. Ignore bad players. Follow saber's advice. Farm, push mid. take towers. While you're teammates are dying randomly in jungle you will be killing nexus because you went mid and enemy team didn't respond.

  • @SkullsandSuits
    @SkullsandSuits Жыл бұрын

    Thank you for this. There are a lot of basic stuff I don't even know that you took the time to explain. Hope you make more newbie-friendly videos!

  • @AGFlashrock
    @AGFlashrock Жыл бұрын

    I love these "basic" educational videos. Its just very helpful to understand the fundamentals for decisionmaking. Thanks!

  • @lordofhatred4746
    @lordofhatred4746 Жыл бұрын

    Really really solid postgame commentary. Thank you :)

  • @Fm_gray
    @Fm_gray Жыл бұрын

    huge help thank you for the vid was able to go look at my vods and see where exactly ive been messing up causing me to be hard stuck

  • @MrHarry37
    @MrHarry37 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you for your content. I just reached diamond this season as ADC, and I'd say it's mostly because of you!

  • @Eastmaniac
    @Eastmaniac Жыл бұрын

    I think the most frustrating part is when you take early turrets or go to catch a wave. Then your mid or jg comes to take all the cs. So then you go back to a different lane...and then they come and take the cs again, or refuse to rotate when you have the advantage.

  • @Eastmaniac

    @Eastmaniac

    Жыл бұрын

    Doesn't happen every game, and as I'm climbing it happens less because I think people realize they need the adc to be strong mid/late game.

  • @Olixer109
    @Olixer109 Жыл бұрын

    My biggest struggle is my team and I know that sounds like piss low crap but hear me out. I'm at the point where I know how to win lane and I know when to give up farm when I'm losing lane against a tough matchup and not feed, I just don't know what to do against the enemy team snowballing at that point when I'm pinned trying to farm under tower and the enemy jungler has free prio making plays getting objectives. At that point it kinda seems like a coinflip whether my team does better or not while I wait out the early game and scale.

  • @islamattar5554
    @islamattar5554 Жыл бұрын

    Very nice video. Please make more videos like this, Specially when your team is running it down and how can you handle it.

  • @chevemas
    @chevemas Жыл бұрын

    I've been doing a similar playstyle in my own games and it really has been a pretty consistent way to get strong (im forever iron/bronze/silver btw since i barely play ranked). Also, you mentioned catching sidelane waves if mid didnt want to go sidelane, but what do you do in a situation where it's not safe to walk up in such a long lane and the wave is pushing away from you? Love the content btw!

  • @xFSNSaber

    @xFSNSaber

    Жыл бұрын

    you were supposed to be there before the wave meets, but if it's not safe you don't go

  • @shoaibakterhimel5451
    @shoaibakterhimel5451 Жыл бұрын

    Saber, thanks a lot for these guides. after being hardstuck gold 4 for 3 years, this time I actually tried to implement all your advice and got to emerald within 2 weeks and my mechanics are bad af, i just won by mid-game macro just like you said xD

  • @Oriol_jesusdnazarekt
    @Oriol_jesusdnazarekt Жыл бұрын

    more content like this please, great video, i think it would be great do sometime different series with different champions, like with different scenarios, when ur mid perma goes mid in midgame, playing or carrying in low elo when your team is behind/inting and such, more low elo content/educational content

  • @ibreathtlou6785
    @ibreathtlou6785 Жыл бұрын

    when you push your wave under tower and back, they should push theirs under your tower too or just push the one that is under their tower and back?

  • @XKiiroiSenkoX
    @XKiiroiSenkoX Жыл бұрын

    Bro you how do you do this with low range engage type adcs (kaisa, xayah, etc.)? depending on what your support is and what they do you might have trouble even hitting the minions let alone poking and pressuring

  • @rayanmustafa6395
    @rayanmustafa6395 Жыл бұрын

    If your top side loses but you end implementing this strategy effectively and it comes down to team fighting does it come down to which adc team fights better (mechanics) or you want to keep building a 10cs/min advantage until you have an advantage over enemy adc?

  • @ShinYamiZakura
    @ShinYamiZakura Жыл бұрын

    Very good, thank you. I have a question regarding mid-game income acceleration. I usually struggle to maintain a good impact as adc between 2 and 3 items (e.g. not enough AS for a good uptime on Xayah/Sivir W, or not enough armor pen to threaten the frontline who has about 2 items as well), so I'm looking to minimize the time I spend at this powerlevel. At what point in the game is the adc entitled to farm jungle camps? I usually take everything after 2 items if my jungler is doing something on the other side of the map, but it sometimes annoys them a lot. Does it depend more on the jungler I have (supportive/tank or carry) or on how ahead/behind he is in the game? Or am I just griefing if I take anything more than red and occasional raptors from my jungler?

  • @xFSNSaber

    @xFSNSaber

    Жыл бұрын

    Take camps, if they get upset then don't take camps. Don't grief tempo/health/playmaking to take camps though, you do it when you have free time like team coming out of base and you didnt have a buy

  • @froyski5611
    @froyski5611 Жыл бұрын

    i wanna see a video similar to this when your team mates are down behind alot is it still possible to win? when i see a aphelios its a free win for the most part

  • @AlexanderVTran
    @AlexanderVTran Жыл бұрын

    Thanks so much for putting this up!

  • @kevboost
    @kevboost6 ай бұрын

    When you say back during cannon wave, does that mean clear the cannon and then go back? Or right when the wave comes?

  • @clashwithmoi8926
    @clashwithmoi8926 Жыл бұрын

    I'm gonna try the dance while I play trade support. When I main adc and trade, I feel like my trades are very random, because I only trade based on number of minions. I can't tell if they will dodge or eat the shot because I am not looking at our minions hp

  • @lamorsa_omega7071
    @lamorsa_omega7071 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much, Saber. I learn a lot from you. Have a great time in your vacation.

  • @Matthew-sq7uq
    @Matthew-sq7uq Жыл бұрын

    Another good video. Man what’s up with 2023. Saber uploading so many good videos it’s been a while bro good shittt

  • @omegaminoseer4539
    @omegaminoseer4539 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you for the video, Saber. I had a question involving Midgame pressure. How exactly do I get Midwave when I DON'T have access to my outplay tool (Galeforce on CD, Lucian E on CD, et cetera)? I often try to make a play with my Tempo only to get ambushed when I return to lane because I've exhausted all of my tools for self-peel.

  • @xFSNSaber

    @xFSNSaber

    Жыл бұрын

    you afk and wait for them to make a move first, eg they show top you push mid, they show mid you catch wave under tower and defend dive

  • @Aabe_lol
    @Aabe_lol Жыл бұрын

    Hey saber thnx for the insight, I was wondering if you could make a trap guide. For ex: trapping with a thresh, blitz, maokai. And some of the trickier champs to land trap with. Most of my cait mechanics are good but my trap usage needs lots of work. Maybe a trap tier list of some sort. Thnx for the content, enjoy your cait gameplay. Its helped me improve a lot. Keep it up

  • @jonnymario771

    @jonnymario771

    Жыл бұрын

    I figured that i have a hard time trapping seraphines ult.

  • @michaelwhite6864
    @michaelwhite6864 Жыл бұрын

    "Aphelios decides to commit sudoku." I am not sure if that line was intentional for KZread censoring or not but it was hilarious. Sudoku is a math puzzle for those who don't know... see 25:43 Other than the light roast, keep up the great content. I love your work.

  • @IOSALive
    @IOSALive3 ай бұрын

    xFSN Saber, I loved this video so much, I had to hit the like button!

  • @RichardRider-cf9fh
    @RichardRider-cf9fh Жыл бұрын

    i hope you show more examples and other videos! great stuff

  • @just1nr3d
    @just1nr3d Жыл бұрын

    what can i do if my support leaves the lane after we get the lead and now i am 2v1?

  • @viniciusgregorio1412
    @viniciusgregorio1412 Жыл бұрын

    whats the song on the ending?

  • @lilwaynesolomon
    @lilwaynesolomon Жыл бұрын

    I play twitch and if I go against a double poke lane I feel like its impossible to accomplish the goals you talked about in the beginning of the video. Any advice? My experience is farming under tower and then being down in cs and some times being dove by the jungler or sometimes being 4 manned and that not counting the extreme poke you can take by the poke lane it self. What can I do as an adc to deal with this without having to depend on my support

  • @xFSNSaber

    @xFSNSaber

    Жыл бұрын

    you're guaranteed to go down in cs pretty much, but you don't have to be guaranteed to lose hp. Focus on preserving hp so that when a play comes (maybe sup finds engage/jg ganks/mid roams) you will be healthy enough to follow up and win. That doesn't mean afk and forgo cs, it means pretend to go for cs and dodge their poke to give yourself breathing room

  • @MrSquid-gr7qi
    @MrSquid-gr7qi Жыл бұрын

    What do you do if your in aphelios’ position, you have a wave crashing and can freeze it but you have to back bec you are low on health and mana. Should you freeze? Also great video btw ive learned so much from your content!!

  • @magicggst

    @magicggst

    Жыл бұрын

    I think this is kinda just like, don't get there in the first place.

  • @xFSNSaber

    @xFSNSaber

    Жыл бұрын

    yea pull wave and insta base

  • @montyslush
    @montyslush Жыл бұрын

    i dont know if its video worthy, but i find it hard to come back and grow lead if enemy jg or other lanes snowballs fast from a chaotic play. would i play the same as you do in the video, or safer to avoid ganks by focusing on vision more and freezing often? thanks

  • @xFSNSaber

    @xFSNSaber

    Жыл бұрын

    eg enemy mid is fed, you bait him to come bot and he gets nothing or dies, you have saved your midlaner

  • @matt1871
    @matt1871 Жыл бұрын

    I need to see a montage of you calling things illegal. It'll make my day 😂

  • @iliasdinia6475
    @iliasdinia6475 Жыл бұрын

    Amazing video and a great explanation!!

  • @raphaelfolcher5310
    @raphaelfolcher5310 Жыл бұрын

    hi thx for the video 26 mns u help drake then goes mid often when i default mid, team is defaulting mid too then, sharing xp etc i need to read them or goes before them to catch wave first... great vid still btw

  • @xmiszxiszx
    @xmiszxiszx Жыл бұрын

    nice video! can you post one where your gold support just ints and gets mad at you, too ?

  • @SkizzVidzz
    @SkizzVidzz Жыл бұрын

    Love the content Saber! Only question I have is what do I do if I achieve what is said in the video, but by around 14mins (when you rotated to mid) the score is 2-21 and enemy jg+mid are ultra fed with their top having advantage? This is an every 7/10 - 8/10 games normal occurrence for me. My friends say I'm cursed to lose (they've seen this happen for years now), but I'm wondering if there is a way to win these games? Given that I am actually doing everything said in the video. Thanks!

  • @xFSNSaber

    @xFSNSaber

    Жыл бұрын

    they can't end unless you die, and eventually they'll troll and give up shutdown (this is gold no? but happens at every rank) your job is to make sure that possibility exists before you make a mistake

  • @SkizzVidzz

    @SkizzVidzz

    Жыл бұрын

    @@xFSNSaber So really it comes down to you not dying and hopefully can capitalize off of a throw. Got it. Will keep this in mind for my next games that will have this kind of score line. Thank you!

  • @amorexmachina5333

    @amorexmachina5333

    Жыл бұрын

    "This is an every 7/10 - 8/10 games normal occurrence for me" capp

  • @saadr9808
    @saadr9808 Жыл бұрын

    Love your content its helped me so much with Cait, but one thing is I can't dodge skill shots for shit. Could you make a video on how to dodge skill shots consistently? Would appreciate it a lot.

  • @timercolen1586

    @timercolen1586

    Жыл бұрын

    I'm not an expert but what I do is, I try to look for patterns in lane. People usually are always trying to skill shot you when you are going up for minons, so you bait them by pretending to go early and backing up. Also usually when you dodge a skill shot one way, usually they are looking for that same direction next time so don't do the same thing again. If the person is really good then I just give up and rush tier 2 boots cause then you have more ms to dodge.

  • @sunnybunny406
    @sunnybunny406 Жыл бұрын

    Leading on from basing during cannon waves, what do you do if you start basing on the cannon and your support keeps pushing the wave, the cannon dies etc?

  • @xFSNSaber

    @xFSNSaber

    Жыл бұрын

    You ping that you're basing before you channel base, they won't randomly push if they know you're basing

  • @sunnybunny406

    @sunnybunny406

    Жыл бұрын

    @@xFSNSaber thanks saber!

  • @jakemitchell9688
    @jakemitchell968828 күн бұрын

    bro "commit sudoku" at 25:43 is insane hahahaha

  • @enesgumrutas158
    @enesgumrutas158 Жыл бұрын

    Does this only work this well with cait?

  • @cufaj__
    @cufaj__ Жыл бұрын

    Cait Jinx Ashe can I climb with my champions pool?

  • @waymondboyd6195
    @waymondboyd6195 Жыл бұрын

    Thoughts on playing mid adc. I have adc hands but I am a better mid laner because I played it so long. Rn I'm in the top 9% (from porofessor) of cser with tristana but stuck in gold

  • @liamrodgers3448
    @liamrodgers3448 Жыл бұрын

    no hate this is a really informative video but how different are lanes where u dont have cait range

  • @fakemisatzu
    @fakemisatzu Жыл бұрын

    you should make a video about what the game plan is if you lose lane, (or do you deserve to lose after that)

  • @xFSNSaber

    @xFSNSaber

    Жыл бұрын

    catch all waves and play fights well

  • @hououinkyouma6219
    @hououinkyouma6219 Жыл бұрын

    I had a game where i was playing cait bot lane in gold elo, after 20 mins of the game the enemy Zac top laner was hyper fed with 4k+ HP and 250 armor and the same for their seju jungle and im supposed to carry that where i die by shooting him alone from his thornmail

  • @jacekplacek1934

    @jacekplacek1934

    Жыл бұрын

    You have to stomp early. Use advantage of your big range of AA

  • @andypayne8331
    @andypayne8331 Жыл бұрын

    How does this concept apply to short ranged adc or if your out ranged

  • @xFSNSaber

    @xFSNSaber

    Жыл бұрын

    You can bait them into right clicking you, then back up thus pulling them out of position for your sup/minions/ jg punish

  • @vlix123
    @vlix123 Жыл бұрын

    How do you not win the 2v2 as cait maokai?

  • @acedjgaming6779
    @acedjgaming6779 Жыл бұрын

    Got any ezreal videos?

  • @hunGRYninJAZ
    @hunGRYninJAZ Жыл бұрын

    Does this work with lower ranger lane bullies? I play Lucian mostly

  • @xFSNSaber

    @xFSNSaber

    Жыл бұрын

    of course

  • @AvgGamerName
    @AvgGamerName Жыл бұрын

    Bro just FYI I love ur videos, and I hope ur Mr streamer for a long long time.

  • @funguy3843
    @funguy3843 Жыл бұрын

    you should make a video giving an example of what to do when behind i.e what to do if you were the aphelios in that game :D

  • @HorrorEdits
    @HorrorEdits Жыл бұрын

    Use this as a Saber is the most underrated ADC content creator/coach on the internet button. v

  • @shubhod9569
    @shubhod9569 Жыл бұрын

    does the wave advice also apply to midlaners who swap bot? Like in the mid game should they shove the bot wave all the way to the tier 2 turret? What if they are unsafe going that deep? Or are midlaners not supposed to maximize their income as much as adcs after laneswapping because its more dangerous?

  • @philipp5756

    @philipp5756

    Жыл бұрын

    If your champ is good at side laning you might be able to go into their half but be mindful where your opponents are. if you play a mage with no mobility you can just shove waves on your half/ near tower and then rotate

  • @xFSNSaber

    @xFSNSaber

    Жыл бұрын

    yes you still make 10cs a min as a midlaner unless you have something better to do (like guarantee kill on roam)

  • @shubhod9569

    @shubhod9569

    Жыл бұрын

    @@xFSNSaber do you have to shove until their tier 2 tower as a immobile mage?

  • @tulavinzhi4475
    @tulavinzhi4475 Жыл бұрын

    But what if im going to catch sidelane wave and my whole team just randonly engage and dying? I know its like not my problem but i lose too much lp with situations like this.

  • @xFSNSaber

    @xFSNSaber

    Жыл бұрын

    not your fault, as long as you're getting your xp and gold you will find a good fight later in the game that will allow you to carry

  • @Zzzz-ie5dm
    @Zzzz-ie5dm Жыл бұрын

    That was so good saber, I wish that I can give u more than a like on this video :*

  • @AmokBR
    @AmokBR Жыл бұрын

    “Aphelios decides to commit sudoku”, lol

  • @TheDeathby2
    @TheDeathby2 Жыл бұрын

    So if u were Aphelios at 18:16 what would u do? Just farm under tower bc mid gets shoved permanently and u lack vision? It just seems like you can't do anything and might as well push bot, praying Raka's healing can carry u in a 2v2 and hoping enemy jg is all farming in the meanwhile.

  • @xFSNSaber

    @xFSNSaber

    Жыл бұрын

    anything that doesn't involve inting into jg, for example fake base to make them push in, hide in bush, wait for jg to sit and then walk up ect

  • @maurolee6684
    @maurolee6684 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you papa saber helped a ton

  • @Fyrows270
    @Fyrows270 Жыл бұрын

    I farm waves, therefore i exist. Thats what i got from this video

  • @zackdgod4680
    @zackdgod4680 Жыл бұрын

    And what if your support is out of control and keeps using abilities on the wave?

  • @xFSNSaber

    @xFSNSaber

    Жыл бұрын

    You try to stop them with a ping or two, or just accept it and play around it

  • @Xejejipi
    @Xejejipi Жыл бұрын

    I’m still trying to figure out the wave state of the jungler

  • @MephistoRolling
    @MephistoRolling Жыл бұрын

    I am now in phase 2. The difference in my games is while that team fight breaks out while i get mid, my team gets wiped in 2 seconds, then rage because i was getting cs and didnt come fight.

  • @mylynguyen6512

    @mylynguyen6512

    Жыл бұрын

    Sometimes it's better to go in the fight first, rather than getting the wave, ESPECIALLY if they don't listen to your pings, yo ufeel they are going to fight RIGHT NOW Because if u are there fighting you can win, if you are not there, then you are sure 100% to lose it! Ah if you feel the fight is lost in advance don't go for it, get the farm ^^' Who cares if they rage, flame , spam ping ? MUTE ALL, u carry, not monkeys.

  • @reallifehorror
    @reallifehorror Жыл бұрын

    dont matter how well you play bot when mid and top go 0 and 8 in lane

  • @younglinkms
    @younglinkms Жыл бұрын

    You should make an edit of the scene from Moneyball when they are picking who to draft and when Brad Pitt points to Jonah Hill, he says “he gets mid wave.”

  • @CharlieLovesU
    @CharlieLovesU Жыл бұрын

    ok, just wanted to add a comment here that says that this video is the gospel. legit am getting 8.5 to 10 cs per minute in most of my games since watching this one and the kai'sa video. even though I'm not smurfing in literally every game. (I'm not saber after all) But it really feels like a revelation. literally just fucking ignore the dumb shit your team does. and you just play an entirely different game than everyone else. I'm often flame horizon my opponent adc and it doesn't matter how bad lane goes or early mid game goes. TLDR, shove waves, then acquire elo and e girls.

  • @charlier.faerber5536
    @charlier.faerber55366 ай бұрын

    Saber you are a godsend to anyone wanting to improve at adc o7

  • @priuzien
    @priuzien Жыл бұрын

    I liked that video and would even watch an even longer one where you go more in depth. 1 Hour and longer

  • @astroreptar
    @astroreptar Жыл бұрын

    Listening to this shit on repeat, deff make more man!!

  • @BadConeja
    @BadConeja Жыл бұрын

    You should explain the opposing perspective. How do you play when you’re Alphelios? What’s the next play when the Caitlyn goes mid and has this lead? What are some ways to edge back small advantages before and after this point?

  • @xFSNSaber

    @xFSNSaber

    Жыл бұрын

    Clear mid asap and try to trade with soraka heal on item spikes, make income and teamfight well

  • @BadConeja

    @BadConeja

    Жыл бұрын

    @@xFSNSaber how do you balance that goal with the other goal of still taking the bottom lane tower? In order to regain bottom map control for objective fights. After winning team fights or during champion resets in the mid game?

  • @xFSNSaber

    @xFSNSaber

    Жыл бұрын

    @@BadConeja if the enemy bot lane goes mid after taking your tower, your goal isn't really to take their bot tower it's to match enemy bot unless your mid is smurfing

  • @BadConeja

    @BadConeja

    Жыл бұрын

    @@xFSNSaber I just did this in my last match. Totally got me back in the game actually. My mid and I were the two best players in the lobby, but she (Akali) rotated bottom when I mirrored mid at level 9 (swapped to blue trinket as well). I only had 1 death at that point. I had a Vlad support and played into a Caitlyn + Swain bottom. I lost lane so fast it was 32 vs 12 cs at the start and my supp died so fast Swain was 6 and my supp was still 4. I was just patient and got a good root/ult on Swain under my tower to pick up a 450 bounty before the rotation happened. I would still rotate lanes after resets to get waves before returning to mid/fight locations. I picked up a couple more bounties as well and eventually got a 2 level lead on the enemy team. I always would focus on bottom control before this, I didn't understand the shifting goals after losing my tower and how to recover from a losing game state. Thank you. I also happened to play very well and land some amazing roots. One in particular was when Akali on 5% HP was being chased by Rengar R, I preemptively placed Q feathers (Xayah), ghosted and when I saw Rengar hit W+E for a quick root and follow up just as he hit my mid T2 tower. It was a flawless root and kill and saved Akali. During this game we only got one dragon and they had soul point with one cloud, a mountain and two chemtech. No elder spawned before we ended. We secured two barons. We didn't take a single rift herald. We won through mid lane with top and bottom T3 still up.

  • @orderedchaos2805
    @orderedchaos2805 Жыл бұрын

    What do I do if my support forces an engage because he THINKS we win the 2v2 when in fact we don't? Do I just stay back and let him die? And what if he just engages when we have no knowledge of where the Jungler is?

  • @xFSNSaber

    @xFSNSaber

    Жыл бұрын

    let him troll

  • @fakename7501

    @fakename7501

    Жыл бұрын

    I usually type early game "yo ima farm" and HOPEFULLY that tells your support what type of adc you are

  • @orderedchaos2805

    @orderedchaos2805

    Жыл бұрын

    @@xFSNSaber Gotcha. Just farm and screw whenever my support is inting

  • @JakandDexsters
    @JakandDexsters Жыл бұрын

    how can i pressure with yuumi cait? o.o i was against ashe alistair bot :T or other hook/engage matchup

  • @raffanelo7772
    @raffanelo7772 Жыл бұрын

    I like the vid, it was very helpful

  • @TheLaiang
    @TheLaiang Жыл бұрын

    Duuude, I just used the tips of this video and i instantly upped my gameplay wtf...

  • @lgchchannel
    @lgchchannel Жыл бұрын

    How to play when it's a weak side? Is it worth building defensive items when you're strong? Instead of trying to build everything with damage to try to carry?

  • @bygraviity9004
    @bygraviity9004 Жыл бұрын

    Could you do a vid vs an engage bot lane?

  • @hanstorpedo3730
    @hanstorpedo3730 Жыл бұрын

    very good content!

  • @bigtonkat3144
    @bigtonkat3144 Жыл бұрын

    best ad teacher

  • @kaiheaton4858
    @kaiheaton4858 Жыл бұрын

    Can you do a similar video but with a KILL THE ADC enemy comp? I’m sure even in gold you could carry games like that or at least show what to do right

  • @Luc9Nine
    @Luc9Nine Жыл бұрын

    great video, thx

  • @stevenkunz4443
    @stevenkunz4443 Жыл бұрын

    Shouldn’t you start long sword and 3 pots since they have a sustain and you don’t

  • @Nadermeister
    @Nadermeister Жыл бұрын

    What do you do if your team keeps fighting and never catch waves in either lane and then blame you for catching waves and not being there at fights? im not talking about objective fights im talking just random silver/gold aram in the mid game

  • @garrettbillington7230

    @garrettbillington7230

    Жыл бұрын

    I think the game will coinflip drastically better once you get mid tower. I once heard a statistic that the first to get mid tower wins the game like 65% of the time or something like that. It's crazy how much it opens playmaking and vision control by your team. Your job as ADC is to get consistent money and only help when you have a timer to. Objectives are sometimes more important, but collecting a wave and showing up after the fight has started is usually a safer bet anyway (enemy cooldowns will be down) and dragon/herald/baron isn't far from mid anyway. Mute your teammates when they don't understand your job as a carry. It's different than another playmaking role (jungle/mid/sup/top CC abilities maybe) where afk'ing in a bush near the dragon before it spawns can win a nice engage suddenly, but you don't have that ability till you have multiple items to delete people. It's a crazy foreign concept to the majority of players. No flame at them needed, just mute because they won't understand it in low elo. The random non-objective fights are the same way. Ideally you want to be mid and available at this point in the game, but collecting a single wave bot/top just to get it rebounding backwards and running back to mid is fine. You'll notice Saber did not collect several waves when his team was not collecting side waves and were off fighting. It was very quick grab and rotate every time. Stay controlled and smart, avoid the aram plays and play for later when you do make the difference. ADCs are good at creating time windows for their team, as well as pumping out consistent damage. They are not good at making plays happen though, so you wait patiently and open opportunities up as much as possible. Playing while not on a good timer will end poorly for you or give you nearly no advantage (zero tower damage or objective win) and that goes for the enemy killing your team as well.

  • @Nadermeister

    @Nadermeister

    Жыл бұрын

    @@garrettbillington7230 makes sense, i mean i already try and do that but the mental in this elo is crazy weak, i once pinged mia once at my supp and he ran it down after :D but ever since i started doing my thing and focusing on farm and generating money, i started winning more often

  • @garrettbillington7230

    @garrettbillington7230

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Nadermeister it doesn't get better. Had a game with a lux support the other day that played the first fight of the lane poorly and died for it. I didn't ping or say anything because it happens to the best of us. She flamed me for how bad I was and then griefed everyone's waves for the rest of the game. Ult sniping entire waves from people, spamming E and waiting for minions to get low before popping it, etc. Her entire goal was to troll and grief others and then of course this game drags on for eternity instead of FF'ing. People get hero complexs and the more knowledge they have of the game, the more they know how to make your life worse. At least running it down grants gold to the enemies and they can end the game sooner. Leaving the game gives them what they want, which is loss mitigation. You just mute, play through it the best you can, report them and move on. RIP LP, but you'll get it back.

  • @Nadermeister

    @Nadermeister

    Жыл бұрын

    @@garrettbillington7230 damn thats painful. but you are right, it is what it is you move on

  • @mohamedachab3604
    @mohamedachab3604 Жыл бұрын

    More content like this please!

  • @elander86
    @elander86 Жыл бұрын

    Why base on cannon?

  • @Flitchy
    @Flitchy Жыл бұрын

    Very educational

  • @AdrianWan
    @AdrianWan Жыл бұрын

    25:45 aphelios commits sudoku LMAO

  • @ChatTheChad
    @ChatTheChad10 ай бұрын

    I thing I always find with videos like this is yeah sure it's nice seeing clean gameplay like this, but both the adc and support were super passive this game and so of course it's easier to show clean gameplay like this. I would find it refreshing to see a punishing low elo lane, like a jhin + xerath vs you or a Annie Caitlyn etc. Whatever I see a adc guide, they usually play something like a Caitlyn which is pretty easy to play clean in the early game, and it's vs a passive lane that probably got auto filled. Even in bronze games I've seen abauvoe lanes where you have a melee support and they slam you every time you try to cs, I would low to see how to lane I'm those kinds of games

  • @anw5772
    @anw5772 Жыл бұрын

    breh even if i go into a practice game and free farm without anyone contesting me or ever leaving lane i cant get 10cs a min xD

  • @joshb7415
    @joshb7415 Жыл бұрын

    beautiful video

  • @gruszkiensss3271
    @gruszkiensss3271 Жыл бұрын

    How to play when u are pushed so hard and u cant even go near the wave cause of poke?

  • @ratyrat5

    @ratyrat5

    Жыл бұрын

    this shud never happen if ur playing cait

  • @semaj1000

    @semaj1000

    Жыл бұрын

    Would be interesting to see a video of a situation like this, although I don't think Saber would really get put in this position playing in gold lol.

  • @xFSNSaber

    @xFSNSaber

    Жыл бұрын

    you should not be getting hit in the first place, when you go for cs you need to bait enemy support's abilities. If you don't you get hit, and that's how you're getting poked out. For example, xerath q cd is not 1 second, it's like 9-7 seconds so every time you bait it out you can do whatever you want for like 9 seconds

  • @gruszkiensss3271

    @gruszkiensss3271

    Жыл бұрын

    @@xFSNSaber and except cait what are the other ADCs that can consistently do all u said in video?

  • @xFSNSaber

    @xFSNSaber

    Жыл бұрын

    @@gruszkiensss3271 wut? Nothing I said in the video is Caitlyn specific my guy

  • @iHateDisGame
    @iHateDisGame Жыл бұрын

    Great vid, see you in Challenger