Since this seems to be a recurring question, the Toyota Vios is not present because it was unavailable, it was away on assignment but we'll try to get it the next time.

@syamil0018

3 жыл бұрын

for my personal opinion vios should be between mazda2 n city😄

Macam ni la bagus. Letakkan sekali kereta tempatan dalam vidio perbandingan sebaris dengan kereta jenama luar. Terbaik.

@carlist_my

3 жыл бұрын

Kalau ada kena masuk lah, lagi pun jenama kebangsaan bukan calang-calang, ada kualiti dia tersendiri. Yang penting kita kena ingat untuk harga dia padan tak dengan kualiti dan kelengkapan yang diberi.

@hafizabkadir2579

3 жыл бұрын

@@carlist_my ramai reviewer yg asingkan jenama tempatan dengan luar. Ramai org awam yg tak tahu yg model2 tempatan ni bersaing dengan model apa dari luar. Bila nk beli kereta, diorang tak masukkan la kereta tempatan dalam list diorang.

Please do more content like this. Most car youtubers in malaysia, they only tell specs base on what is written on paper. I thought City is the best car in Segment B but i was wrong after watching your videos. But i would really want to know where Toyota Vios stand with all other 4 cars. Good work guys!

@carlist_my

3 жыл бұрын

Appreciate the feedback and support Fauzan. We would have liked the Vios in it too, would have made it more complete. Have no doubt though that the City is a very good and capable B-segment car.

@bp6837

2 жыл бұрын

Vios in 2nd to the last.

Really glad you guys included passenger space in the video and some other aspects like tyres (and how changing them affects noise levels). Would be much appreciated if you added the bench length and other ergonomics too. Fix the mics and I'm pretty sure you guys wouldn't find it hard to fight the other channels here in Malaysia. You have my support! I'm already loving

@carlist_my

3 жыл бұрын

Appreciate the support Daniel. We'll keep the additional points you mentioned in mind next time we do a comparison video like this.

Keep up this kind of review, subscribed because this is so well done and informative. all the key areas we want to know was given.

@carlist_my

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you Caloy! We will strive to do our best. Appreciate the subscribe too.

Persona is just excellent value wise. For the price, it covers all the basics decently.

@carlist_my

3 жыл бұрын

Spot on Kangwei!

@izmanrazak1237

3 жыл бұрын

But have problem maa power window regulator huhu

@carlist_my

3 жыл бұрын

@@izmanrazak1237 Mungkin long-term, we had no issues in the time we had it lah.

@indrabendi3300

3 жыл бұрын

Agree, i still use my 2008 Proton persona, and its a great car

@hc8714

3 жыл бұрын

@@izmanrazak1237 lol yes, after just 3 years

The best selling car, not always the best car in the segment..

@fourtry

3 жыл бұрын

Yupp

@-kudin-1780

3 жыл бұрын

Precisely

@krk24

3 жыл бұрын

true, best selling car shows clearly the country’s economic situation and buyers are forced to buy lowest price range set by the hungry government.

@praveen6862

3 жыл бұрын

Yea.you talk about Honda right

@Hazemann

3 жыл бұрын

Betul. Sedan B sekarang banyak Persona atau City atas jalan raya

Awesome content. Testing real life, off-paper experience. should be a yearly series

Honestly, this is the best review bro.

@carlist_my

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you Nafis - we appreciate the support!

Remind me of old days paultan , anw good job guys , rlly good series

@aeroline11

3 жыл бұрын

Paultan is different now and feel upset it lose out its origin. The new hosts are paying more attention to their accent, their face expression or acting more than paying attention on reviewing cars. Paultan is deemed as the first started the car reviewing KZread channel and at first doing very well and concentrate but not now. I missed the old day of Paultan. This channel remind me the old days Paultan which bring good info to public.

Should make followup video regarding Maintenance. Good video, well 24minute spend 👍🏻

@zhi8970

3 жыл бұрын

maintenance is simple. all these cars are quite simple. each service will be 300-500 in general. Remember that cheaper is not better. Also the information is out there. If want to cover, should cover service centre experience and expertise.

The best review I’ve seen so far, thank you 😊

@carlist_my

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you Puteri, appreciate the compliment!

Thank you guys for including Mazda. A lot of comparison videos often don't include the Mazda 2 because it's more expensive than its competitors

@carlist_my

3 жыл бұрын

You're right in pointing out that it is expensive but if you can afford it and you'd like a compact sedan as Adam pointed out it's bang on the buck. Thanks for watching and your feedback Keith.

@keithmarcus8638

3 жыл бұрын

@@carlist_my I actually bought a used 2015 Mazda 2 last year. Loved it so far. Just wondering if I'm losing out a lot compared to the 2020 version

@carlist_my

3 жыл бұрын

@@keithmarcus8638 I think you've answered your question Keith. You love it, does it it really matter if you may be losing out on some things?

@muhammadaimanismail118

3 жыл бұрын

Love to have Mazda 2 hatchback/sedan in future as it have premium design inside and outside. Mazda 2 the only affordable premium car.

@najmuddinalias4026

3 жыл бұрын

Its alot more expensive 😂😂

Awesome content! Keep doing the comparison like this futher on

Great to see the unity ❤️ This is what Malaysia is about 💪🏼 BTW, would be nice if u guys could do A comparison video jz like this with Perodua Ativa, Proton X50, Honda HRV, Toyota Corolla Cross & Mazda CX 30 😁✌🏼

@carlist_my

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you Arvind! We didn't set out for this to be a 'Malaysian' video than for it to be a B-segment comparison but we're glad it resonated with you. Thank you for the idea - we'll keep it in mind definitely!

the immediate soft pick up the moment u put the gear lever to 'D' on Persona does make me happy..now there's no more 'lag' legacy from their previous model..i don't mind the maximum acceleration capability as its justified with the price point..nak pecut mana sangat dalam jem oi, baru tekan minyak dah kena tekan brek balik..last2 Axia lane sebelah jugak yang potong tinggalkan kau sebab dia pandai cilok lane

@izzfp9802

Жыл бұрын

😂

Nice comparison video brothers, looking forward for more of this kind! Thank you.

@carlist_my

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you kindly Ganesh - we've got a few more in the works, just waiting for the situation with this pandemic to be safer for all of us.

terbaik review ni !

Since we're in the SST holiday window until June 30, 2021, here's an updated price list for all the cars featured above: Honda City V: RM 86,561.45 Mazda 2 Sedan: RM100,770.00 Nissan Almera VLT: RM91,310.00 Proton Persona Premium: RM53,700

@hafizredhuan10

3 жыл бұрын

Almera mahal sikit je dri city

@Lan_hotak

2 жыл бұрын

2 biji persona = 1 mazda

Very nice content for those people who are planning to buy a car. Good job guys. This is very useful

Great effort! This deserves more views. Good job mates

@carlist_my

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you Erico! Appreciate the support.

Man I love you guys!!!

love this kind of videos, pls do more!

@carlist_my

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you Ronald - we are definitely planning to!

this is magnificent!!!!! you guys should do more of these...like the SUV ones, D segment ones, BY FAR THE GREATEST AND THE BEST VIDEO COMPARISON

@carlist_my

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you MKMD, very kind. We are planning for a few of these yes but we'll have to also observe the current MCO and see how that progresses, nonetheless memang dalam planning and we'll make it happen!

@SinceNov2006

3 жыл бұрын

@@carlist_my mantap!!!

I bought the persona premium model 10 months ago. My only regret is i should have bought the executive model and used the savings to upgrade the stereo, sound proofing and add strut bars. Otherwise, no regrets buying the car as who else can offer all the gadgets under RM55k.

@carlist_my

3 жыл бұрын

It is a very good choice Geoffrey, especially for its price point and like you clearly outlined, spend a little more money and you'll have a solid all-rounder of a car.

I love this review. Not saying that because of the result but because of the purpose to let more public understand the difference. Too bad alot of netizen is focusing the result and being mad for it becauee their car not number 1. Hope to see more content like this i. The future. Keep it up carlist!

@carlist_my

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you Heng - the results speak for themselves. At the end of the day, if you're happy with the car you've bought, good for you!

Video like this that make it useful for future buyers. Great job guys. Keep it up.🔥

@carlist_my

3 жыл бұрын

Terima kasih Hafiz!

Good review! next review b segment hatch please😄👍

@carlist_my

3 жыл бұрын

We've got it in the pipeline Syamil, thanks!

Yes this is the video we all need man

Good review Carlist team, keep up the good work. Would like to see hatchback comparisons . I heard a lot of noise for the Almera maybe due to vibrations in the video.

@carlist_my

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you Palaniappan! Seated in the car, driving the car you really don't feel any vibrations coming from the Almera.

Volkswagen Vento also a B segment car right?

Look forward to seeing your C-Segment comparison video with the new Civic FE against the competition like the Corolla and Mazda 3 and perhaps the Jetta

Pretty good comparison test 👍🏼

@carlist_my

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you kindly!

how come honda city boot space 519 litre lose to persona 510litre

Best gile review dorang haha...

@carlist_my

3 жыл бұрын

Terima kasih Faris!

Seeing them so struggle to fit all the stuff into persona was kinda wholesome tho... I'm so proud their work 😂😂

love this review👍

Nice video really need this kind of comparison. Thumbs up carlist. Do more comparison like this please

@carlist_my

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you Shafuan - akan kita usahakan.

Thank you so much guys for the review! For budget-friendly car for 1st car I can see Persona is the best choice.

Great video. Interesting and informative.

@carlist_my

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

This is the best B Segment car review video, it proved practical info. Good work bro.

@carlist_my

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you Billy, appreciate it. Like you mentioned, that was our intention, to provide practical info to help your buying decision.

best review bro, my family is getting biggerr n i need to replace my myvi 1.3 2008 FL n i like sedan car. what i need is the practicality, the comfort, boot space, safety of car, drive feel n most important the price for pay bulan2. i go to test drive vios 19, honda city 19 and persona 19. so i choose proton persona 19. good car made from anak tempatan.

@carlist_my

3 жыл бұрын

Terima kasih Doraemon. It seems you made the choice that is best for you. Yang penting kita dah kaji selidik pilihan yang terdapat di pasaran. Macam tu we become informed buyers.

@ANIHSAN-il2ig

2 жыл бұрын

But if it is me, i prefer go to mpv. But its up to whichever their interest in.

Terbaik team carlist . Perbandingan yang ringkas tapi paling biasa difikirkan sebelum memilih kereta . Pada saya ,kalau tak kisah penggunaan minyak...cukup harga bajet,elok Persona . Rasa nak bergaya sikit dan ada bajet lebih Honda ialah pilihan (Mungkin juga Vios walaupun tiada dalam video)

@carlist_my

3 жыл бұрын

Terima kasih Azlan! Pada kita penting nak ketengahkan isu yang biasa para pembeli nak tahu sebelum memilih di antara kenderaan-kenderaan B-segmen ini. Paling penting, check dompet, tanya bajet - beli kereta ikut kemampuan - kalau boleh loan maksimum biar 7 tahun, kalau 5 lagi bagus.

@DireyDinan

3 жыл бұрын

Yessss 👍👍👍👍👍

Great review 👍 Good job

@carlist_my

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you browneye! We're glad you enjoyed it. Don't forget to hit the Subscribe button - we've got another shootout in the works!

The best review 👍 already know which one to buy 👏

@carlist_my

3 жыл бұрын

Terima kasih Liyana! Good luck with the new car.

the best car review i had ever watched so far.

@carlist_my

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you, we appreciate the support. We're actually planning for similar reviews across different segments but it will have to wait until the lockdown is over for now.

Hi sir, I would like to compare Toyota Vios and Nissan Almera , which do you think is better pls reply tq very much

@carlist_my

3 жыл бұрын

Hi Kalam, firstly what is your criteria, what are your requirements for a car?

@AbdulKalam-su5uz

3 жыл бұрын

@@carlist_my sir i need a car whichj is long lasting, comfortable with good peak up. AND IS IT TRUE PEOPLE SAY TURBO ENGINES WONT LAST MORE THAN 5 YEARS OR MORE?

@carlist_my

3 жыл бұрын

@@AbdulKalam-su5uz Long-lasting depends on how you drive, maintain the car. The care for turbo engines are also something that depends on the maintenance of the car. Many of us content producers also own and maintain turbo vehicles and some of them are more than 8 years old.

@AbdulKalam-su5uz

3 жыл бұрын

@@carlist_my oo ok sir, so sir for me based on my requirments which is most suitbale sir do u think? vios vs almera?

@carlist_my

3 жыл бұрын

@@AbdulKalam-su5uz We recommend you test drive both - think about all the things you want in a car and then compare both cars and see which one fits you best. It's very hard for us to recommend a car to anyone really without knowing them personally.

Content yang sangat baik tuan. Very helpful.. ✅💯

@carlist_my

2 жыл бұрын

Terima kasih Izzat!

Cant wait for vios comparison. SST coming up, have to decide quick. Hope you guys can make an article atleast. Anyways great video. #Kipidap

@carlist_my

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Saufiuddin. We will try our best to get a review out in time.

I am curious which one has higher top speed. Mazda 2 or Honda City?

@carlist_my

3 жыл бұрын

You would have to rely on manufacturer numbers for that Mark - we never tested for top speed.

@highiq145

Жыл бұрын

Top speed u need to see which car has higher horsepower. Dont look at car brand because this will trigger fanboy. Just see at horsepower.

content yang menarik. jadi tak menyesal beli new almera hehehe.

@carlist_my

3 жыл бұрын

Terima kasih Sarjen! Yang penting anda happy. Almera pilihan yang baguih semestinya!

Nice review bros semua. Mz2 mmg best. Of course city dan almeera space lagi luas dan comfort. Tapi sy prefer mz punya handling dgn throttle response dia.

@carlist_my

3 жыл бұрын

Terima kasih kawan! Kalau nak driver's car memang tak dapat dinafikan, Mazda 2 lagi engaging. Kesemua kereta B-segmen ini ada kelebihan masing-masing, kita cuma kena tahu apa penting bagi kita sebagai pembeli.

Nk amik persona atau myvi ye? Saye nk kereta yg kalau bawak laju tapi rase tk laju bila dalam cabin..any suggestion guys?

@carlist_my

2 жыл бұрын

Kereta yang bawak laju tapi tak rasa laju dalam kabin - ada ke kereta macam tu Helmi?

@Jack_Separuh

2 жыл бұрын

Maksud saye dlm kabin tk terasa melantun melambung semua

@carlist_my

2 жыл бұрын

@@Jack_Separuh Dua-dua kereta pun takde feel melantun atau melambung Helmi - yang beza boot space - Helmi perlukan atau tidak boot yang besar?

@Jack_Separuh

2 жыл бұрын

Yg mana lagi selesa dalam cabin myvi atau persona?

Coz im owner of proton persona, setuju "HIDUP PROTON !" 🤣🤣

Hi Carlist, can I see Proton Exora VS Perodua Aruz VS Toyota Avanza VS Mitsubishi Xpander?

@carlist_my

3 жыл бұрын

Hi KY, we'll put this in the pipeline. Thank you for the idea.

@flyskypig

3 жыл бұрын

@@carlist_my TQ So Much, I miss out Honda BRV. Haha.

At last someone who make a vid about segment B car and include the persona lmao.

Why the Toyota vios not included guys?

Do also compare on annual depreciation cost. I m sure carlist has ample data on this. Compare maintenance cost as well and I am talking about parts like absorbers, mounting, etc. which can be costly if you don't have OEM option.

@ANIHSAN-il2ig

2 жыл бұрын

Surely in Malaysia, honda is the winner. After 5 years price still wayy higher

Good job guys👏🏻… nice review and comparison… for me, for persona just change to premium tyre and do soundproofing… and the nvh could be better…

@carlist_my

3 жыл бұрын

Terima kasih Hakim, appreciate the support and kind words and yes you're right, with some better tyres, soundproofing the Persona should be a better all-rounder.

If it stay like this, you will gain a lot of subscribers in no time

@carlist_my

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you Syahir, we appreciate the support!

To me, almera look very nice interior, but dashboard vibrating during recording is very annoying, even the cheapest persona keep the video stable like the other two.

Wow. Now we know New almera with turbo does save more fuel. Good efforts. Clear proof.

Awesome!

I booked the Persona because of this review.

@carlist_my

3 жыл бұрын

We are glad to hear we helped you make up your mind Ezri. Come back and let us know what your initial thoughts are after driving it for a while.

Thoughts on reliability/after sales? Hearing different stories from people about ETCM and Honda Malaysia after sales. Also on reliability, how sustainable are the CVTs of Persona, Almera and City

@carlist_my

3 жыл бұрын

The reliability of many of these models have been well documented Han How. Besides that would require a long-term review and that generally does not happen in Malaysia. Regarding after-sales - your best point of reference is current owners.

@Littlefire85

3 жыл бұрын

FYI Mazda 2 6-Speed automatic gearbox also got reliability feedback from local gearbox specialist. With the so call lifetime gear oil & small torque converter size already got cases of failure recorded. The best is preventive maintenance by changing the mazda gear oil early.

Greatly appreciate Carlist team doing the practical testing, esp on seating comfort and boot space. Tahniah bros n sis

@carlist_my

3 жыл бұрын

Terima kasih Afiq, good to hear it's of value. We think it's important to highlight specifications like these with real-world examples and not just numbers of the specs sheet.

Proton Persona i think the most heaviest among the others

@Daus3243

3 жыл бұрын

yup you were right 1. Persona 1210kg 2. City 1153kg 3. Almera 1114kg 4. Vios 1110kg 5. Mazda 2 Sedan 1102kg

@rawjusticeman3128

3 жыл бұрын

Persona has a bigger body maybe bços it's a 1.6L.

The malay guy in the City....... English gila2 one. Kalah jeremy clarkson 🤣🤣🤣

Summary table is good but..way too small out of entire screen background is so much larger compared to the table. Why??

The honda city driver voice like robocop

Done subscribe,good review,keep it up👍🏼

@carlist_my

3 жыл бұрын

Appreciate the support Sakman! We will do our best!

@RENTAK_PINAKANG

3 жыл бұрын

@@carlist_my keep ot up👍🏼

Good review

dulu aq ada Myvi model yang last 2nd gen (warna biru famous) dgn persona yang sblom ada DRL dalam family,, skrg ni ada kereta ketiga tau2 persona jgak hahahaha. reason beli sebab kalau nk bwk jauh tu memang nice lepas tu kalau nk dibandingkan minyak dgn myvi takdela jauh sngat , persona mestilah besar sikit minyak, yela tengok saiz dgn berat, tayar lagi, main faktor tu.

@carlist_my

3 жыл бұрын

Yang penting Ahmad gembira dan puas hati dengan pilihan anda.

@ahmadhanif9731

3 жыл бұрын

@@carlist_my ya benar bosku. 😉

@norh.m.5815

3 жыл бұрын

Mcm sama je. 1st.. persona 2009. 2nd myvi icon 2016 warna biru.. 3rd... persona 2019. Jual myvi tu... haha.. last2 1st car 2nd car dua2 persona. Lain generasi. Nampak macam pelik. Tapi sayang nak jual yang lama. Masih padu lagi. Pandangan saya sama, part minyak myvi 2016 dengan persona tak jauh beza. Bonus kat space pada persona.

Nice review

@carlist_my

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you Fesal!

Why no vios?

great content. pls compare C segments. civic FE. corolla altis. mazda 3

This is the kind of review that end users want. Daily practicalities balanced with some spirited driving. Most of the reviews we having nowadays are too oriented on racerboy wannabe like we gonna race the cars to the finish line everyday. Rubbish. Keep up the excellent works, guys.

Kerusi belakang Persona memang terbaik. Selama ni jadi driver tak tahu. Bila surhu adik drive, wow bestnya duduk belakang.

@diniezuhaidienorazman909

2 жыл бұрын

Betul..bila dah duduk belakang, kl - penang all the way tido saje 😂

@gungrave10

2 жыл бұрын

@@diniezuhaidienorazman909 Betul Sbb tu sllu sunyi klo balik kg naik persona. Tgk blkg semua😴😴.. beza dgn naik alza

nice video, but why no VIOS T_T maybe they busy with their previous race event. . .

Where's Toyota Vios? Is that because it's super popular segment b?

@carlist_my

3 жыл бұрын

Unfortunately it was busy away on assignment this time.

@IzzHsyaa

3 жыл бұрын

@@carlist_my ouh :v thx for info

next...plz for aruz,xpander,brv2022,rush,exora or x70

surprise persona have that much space for 3 adults at the back. i guess i underestimate Iriz too

@carlist_my

3 жыл бұрын

Go give it a try yourself Najib, ajak kawan sekali and let us know how you find it.

Hopefully data obtained from this comparison can be used to help evaluate future B-segment cars.

why not vios？

Do more like this laaaa

@carlist_my

3 жыл бұрын

Will do!

Ingatkan honda city paling power dalam interior space utilization and large boot 519litre. Rupa2 persona with just 510 litre boot space lebih pandai guna ruang yang ada. Lagi rear seating lebar dari city. Saya sangat terkejut wow 😄😄

@carlist_my

3 жыл бұрын

Seringkali saiz di dalam litre tak serasi dengan design ruang but. Boleh cuba sendiri.

@highiq145

Жыл бұрын

The most funny things, is this guy try to squeeze as much as they can, until cannot close the Persona boot and try again and again, So that Persona can fit in 9 items. Hahaha..So biased.

@highiq145

Жыл бұрын

City tu boleh masuk lagi barang. Persona depa push kaw kaw sampai susah nk tutup boot. Benda sama x berlaku dkt Honda City. So jangan percaya sangat review ni. Dia hanya nk menangkan Persona saja. Tengok pun tau dah.

i like this video tbh .... very useful for the customer

Mazda make excellent cars . The 2 is a comfortable, quality car . Highly recommend.

@carlist_my

3 жыл бұрын

Without a doubt Geoff!

@rawjusticeman3128

3 жыл бұрын

Agree with you. Apart from the poor rear leg room and maybe pricey and high cost of spare parts, mazda is still the best car, good power, quiet, engaging to drive

That Almera deserves a sporty engine under that hood. What a nice looking car holy

Sebagai pengguna Proton Persona sejak 2017, ia mmg sgt berbaloi. Tambahan pula dapat pakej servis percuma 5 tahun/100K km ketika itu, mmg senyum je bila ke pusat servis.

@carlist_my

3 жыл бұрын

Pakej servis 5 tahun percuma - memang berbaloi tu!

@zemyhussin

3 жыл бұрын

Serius ke 5 tahun servis percuma ? tgh nak angkat Persona ni.

@maevox

3 жыл бұрын

@@zemyhussin promosi Julai 2017 je bang. Lepas tu mmg xde dah

@tanchiawhau8986

3 жыл бұрын

@@maevox but the faceliifted 2019 price is around RM2.5K lower vs 2017 so it's still a bargain all in all

@maevox

3 жыл бұрын

@@tanchiawhau8986 i still prefer free service 😁

lagi bagus kalo nk drag buat 4 biji kereta terus... baru dapat result yg lebih tepat....

Nak Tanya kenapa 1.6 proton kalah drag ngn 1.5 city?

@mohdhanif1803

2 жыл бұрын

hp persona x tinggi persona : hp108 torq150 city : hp119 torq145

Nice video

Bagus dgn cara penilaian sebegini

@carlist_my

3 жыл бұрын

Terima kasih tuan!

Your video was great with loaded info, just appreciate if the comparison charts could be placed higher a bit on your screen. Since, you know, youtube has this useless stupid voice translation thing, the words just blocks the final chart.

@carlist_my

3 жыл бұрын

We shall keep that in mind! But for future reference, if you don't want the closed captions to pop up, you can switch it off by clicking on the "CC" box at the top of the video (if you are on your phone) or at the bottom of the video if you are on your computer :)

Kereta cantik berstyle tu bonus ....yang penting keselesaan..... berpatutan dan mesra keluarga...itu penting 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

You guys can add the video part timestamps to boost the video SEO and easy for the viewers to select the part selected.

@carlist_my

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the idea Tee - we'll definitely keep that in mind.

good vids!

Is the 3-cylinder engine vibration noticeable during idle?

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It isn't Wei Choo - it was smooth really.

wow surprise dgn ruang tmpt duduk blkg persona. paling luas antara 4 tu. klu tgok dr luar persona nmpk paling kecik. tp belah dlm sebaliknya. betul lah jgn menilai dr segi luaran.

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Betul, dari luar kekadang kita tak nampak macam mana spaciousnya kat dalam!