I'm GERALD UNDONE, and every move you make, every step you take, I'll be watching you

@sane7798

Жыл бұрын

Gerald Undone is the camera police

@JoaquimGonsalves

Жыл бұрын

@@sane7798 hahaha love it!

@oat1000

Жыл бұрын

... he's crazy...

@MHarvey-tp5km

11 ай бұрын

Tom Green

LOL, I'm not a video guy so I have no idea why I was watching this, except I find you entertaining. So after about 13 minutes, I'm trying to come up with a smart ass way to ask if it even takes photos. Your timing was perfect! Yes, it does take pictures. Thanks for throwing us stills guys a bone.😉

@geraldundone

Жыл бұрын

Perfection!

@ramonarias1234

Жыл бұрын

+1

Mate, i gotta say. HUUUUGE THANK YOU! You are the only KZreadr I know that ALWAYS answers all the questions floating around in my mind. Watching your videos is like yoga for my mind and takes all my German quality anxiety away because I know all my questions will be answered :D. Thank you for all the work you put in instead of just talking about the obvious. 150/100

Thanks for the review Gerald! Was interested in a dynamic range test, was glad when your review showed up! Some of these hybrid video cameras have an insane amount of options for CoDecs, frame sizes, oversampled/line skipped, etc. it's hard to keep all their features and benefits committed to memory!

Always appreciate your unbiased and technical assessments

Hi Gerald. As a stills guy, I really appreciate that you mentioned near the end of the video about the screen information flipping to correspond to the vertical mode. After having this feature on my Fuji, I find it really awkward to use a camera now where this doesn’t happen automatically.

Thanks for the detailed review Gerald, always helpful. Seems like there is a growing user base wanting to use Nikon as a legitimate video/cinema tool and this is a great resource.

My dude!!! By far the most informative video I've seen on this camera. 👏

I have never clicked so fast on a video in my life! been waiting on your perspective on this camera

Since the Z9 came out I said I loved it but not great for hikes and lots of running around. It was massive and I never liked vertical grips to begin with. Finally I get what I want, quality of the Z9 but better for carrying around day to day. And the video time limits don't bother me at all. Get some high quality clips and B-roll along with top notch Nikon raw files for photo editing. Preorder is in. I am done!

Yet again the best video about this camera comes from Gerald. Well done! That NR issue in h.265 is very odd, though. 1) Is there anyway to turn it off? 2) this wasn’t an issue in the Z9?

@badboujee

Жыл бұрын

would love to know more about this too, maybe Gerald can investigate?

@garfieldirwin

Жыл бұрын

1) No. 2) Probably.

Great video! I love the level of depth you get into. When you're doing the H.264 tests, are you testing the default profile only, or do you poke around at Nikon's custom colour profile settings at all? I don't know about the Z8/9, but in the Z5/6 there is a "High ISO NR" setting in the video menu, and I'm not convinced "off" is fully off. There's also a "manage picture control" page with 3 separate sharpening filters and a 'clarity' slider, all of which are cranked pretty high by default.

Really excited for this camera! Hopefully we get updates to the Z7II, Z6II, and/or Z5 later this year.

@raysanders332

Жыл бұрын

Don't hold your breathe.

@nickolasmazzara127

Жыл бұрын

@@raysanders332 Yeah, haha. It’s really just wishful thinking.

@danielvilliers612

Жыл бұрын

@@nickolasmazzara127 They will have to. The z6ii and z7ii are literally end 2018 tech. They really just have to put the new Xspeed 7 processor for better autofocus and then some enhancement like 10 bit internal video format. The rest is already very good, perhaps higher rez viewfinder as it doesn't have to be real speed camera.

Very informative Z8 review look forward to its potential.

You are the gold standard of video-application reviews!

There are a few things to consider when buying a Z8 if you are using a Z7ii. First off subject tracking is not available for stills anymore. I had my FN1 button near the lens mount set to subject tracking to swap from auto focus all points to a smaller box for picking exactly what I want focused on. It was simple, one button and done. That is no more on the Z8. They did introduce 3D tracking, which is a better focus mode BUT if you assign 3D tracking to the FN1 button you can not press it to swap in and out of the modes. You have to CONTINUOUSLY HOLD IT DOWN to stay in 3D tracking mode. Your other option is to use the new focus button on the button left side of the camera and use the sub-command wheel to swap modes. Instead of 1 button swap, not its a 2 finger adjustment. A big reason I wanted the Z8 for weddings was pre-release capture. But if you are like me and write raw to CF Express cards, and jpeg to SD as a backup, your pre-capture release are written to the SD card only, meaning you have to wade through all the files a second time to check for those pre-capture release files. This is so much of a pain in the ass I will likely not use the amazing feature. You need to modify A LOT of the camera's settings. I had to change about 25 different items when setting it up to fix things like not having a histogram in your eyelet or monitor. Also make sure you go into your custom controls and turn off the 'Lens control ring' in F3 or you will accidently change your aperture by accident when holding your lens.

Well done. I have been waiting for your thoughts. Now I can make an informed decision. Thank you

Hi Undone, I think you can use FFT analysis of the frequency resolution of each readout mode to see directly the sampling resolution (when the sensor is undersampled).😉FFT is much more convenient than the naked eye.

Thanks for the professional explanations about the specs.👍

Love this. Been looking forward to this video.

This wildlife shots and outro gives me Camera Conspiracies vibes :D. Great video. Not canceling my S5IIX pre-order though :D.

The optional battery grip adds a neat feature - you can HOT swap those "smaller batteries" basically giving a potentially longer field running time. I like it :) 👍👍👍

@efsu8374

Жыл бұрын

Just duct tape a Power Bank with PD to the bottom of the camera! $29.99

@KNAPPAID

Жыл бұрын

​@@efsu8374 Lmao , i do this when i had to document an event all day , hooked up a dummy battery to a 10,000 mah powerbank

@raynerp

Жыл бұрын

a power bank would do the trick too and is even cheaper, you can basically shoot for all the time the card or heat allows

Awesome review as always, Gerald!

I am waited this so long! 😍

Excellent review. Thanks. 👍🏼

Well done Gerald! Guenther, you have been outworked.

Incredible to see you how you have grown from your first video 6 years ago making a DIY lighting set up "Ah fucking bit my finger with that now! lol" to a sophisticated state of the art @KZread channel with an amazing community. So inspiring to see your hard work coming to fruition! Great Job @Gerald Undone => Bravo sir! Someday I will take my food channel to the next level, until then I wish you THE BEST!

This is one of the best reviews I’ve seen !!!!!!!

As someone who prefers shoots MF with adapted glass and is disgusted by non linear focus by wire, seeing customization in that area sounds like a godsend

Gerald, the only real man on video stuff on YT.

Wow, this is my first time here, and I'm very impressed. Your setup is amazing, great background and colors, great lighting, it all looks so professional. Great sound, too. I don't do video, I'm a landscape photographer, but I pre-ordered the Z8 and have been watching videos about its capabilities. Thought I'd learn more about its video features too, so that's how I got here. Thumbs up, man. Exceptional work you've put into this. Not only (very) aesthetically pleasing, but such in-depth information as well. All-around a very deserving 'like.' 👍🏻

This camera is insane. So many options. It's crazy.

Excellent video, very informative.

I love the outro. Mostly because you let the weird thoughts in.

If I only understood all the technicalities of video shooting. But it’s a deficiency on my side, a Nikon-shooter mainly taking photos. I just ordered a Z8 and will come back to this very credible video. Thanks. Hans-Martin

I'm still not sure whether I should go for this Z8 or the R5C for video. Whaddaya think?

Hi, i have a few questions about nikon raw editing in DaVinci resolve. I hope you will find time. Thanks. 1. What is the difference between nikon raw sdr and nikon raw log? 2. When setting the paramater of a clip, shot in 12 bit raw sdr, in DaVinci raw panel, 'decode using' is set to clip 'colour space' is set to rec.2020 And when i set the 'gamma' to Nikon N-Log the SDR footage starts looking exactly like a video shot in log. I want to know what is this behavior? Is resolve really interpreting the raw sdr video as raw log video?

Great offering. It’s cool seeing tempting offers like this and the S5II(X) from Nikon and Panasonic that really challenge the current market supremacy of Canon and Sony.

Interesting! Thanks for sharing it. ✌️

Will you do a video on the Z 8 and the Ninja V, I understand there may be a problem with that combination?

Ty for the review! How about usb c external storage? Is it possible?

Hi, thanks for the review. Could you share your opinion about hdmi lag? Is it still there in coparison with z6 or with panasonics which still provide huge ammount of dellay while outputing the image? Also, I didn't quite get there about nikon n log monitoring. Is there some kind of option live view assist which shows rec 709 version of your image? Can you upload your own rec 709 luts? Can we agree that all this overheating thing for this camera is not such a big deal if you record many short takes and shoot regular stuff for example: events, commercials where camera doesn't need to take long takes and there are enough time between the takes? Can you record video eventually longer if you power the camera from PD source thus avoind hot battery warning? If you could answer these questions everyone would be happy :) Thanks.

@epicimages5583

Жыл бұрын

I have tested this with the Ninja V. It is significantly faster and almost no noticeable lag. The z6ii had a good 0.5 sec lag from my experience, the 8 lag does vary depending on the recording res/frame rate, but its almost non existent to the average user.

13:19 The Hi-Res function cannot be used when cropping from 4K60 to 1080p60?

in this range of specs it must be the best camera ever created yet tho? It is unbelievable. I am still waiting for the Lumix S1m2, they gotta do same specs!

So what manufacture /raw codec allows you to just change the white balance and move on?

Wow man, impeccable discussion!

Going over the white paper for N-Log the Log curve really only allows for a maximum of 14 stops of DR. I am curious if you used a better log, like ArriLog if you would return a better DR result. Simply decode the N-RAW as linear use a Color Space Transform to convert the Linear to ArriLogC3 or Log3g10 maybe and see if there's anything to be gained that way over the N-Log in the 2:1 DR range?

@robertulrich3964

Жыл бұрын

its possible since its 12 bit(if the cmos sensor can resolve it and the log curve actually supports it, similar to slog2 which cannot resolve more than 14 due to the curve itself. note: some of the linear to log may actually be partially debayered so unrecoverable. and noise is always going to be a factor. also, the arrilog lut does rolloff saturation at the top 1% so that may not give you results you want if you need max sat at highest luma.

@danielvilliers612

11 ай бұрын

I would recommend watching CineD lab test. But don't stick to the first part using xila chart and imatest, but the latitude test, which I would call, real life Dr. And their the Z9 beats everything Sony even the Venice 2!!!

@SamueleApperti

8 ай бұрын

@@danielvilliers612can you link it?

Hi Gerald! Now that the Nikon Z8 has its firmware update where we can shoot at ISO 200 and ISO 400 in NLOG, what is the dynamic range performance on the Z8 with those options?

Criminally undersubscribed channel. Fantastic content and delivery. Keep up the great work! Your videos always convey what I'm looking to learn in an entertaining, professional, & informative way!

Can you tell me which camera would you buy the Nikon z8 from r the Sony a7rv?

Great video! I have a serious issue with the HDMI out of the Z8. When I'm using a monitor connected to HDMI, and I press record and then press again to stop recording, the monitor loses signal for about a second and a half after stopping recording. This is even worse when attaching a Wireless video transmitter like Accsoon Cineview HE. Every time I stop recording, it loses signal for about 6 seconds. Is there a workaround for this? This makes using the Z8 on a professional film set not possible. It would create major frustration for the crew to wait for the monitor image to return every time one presses record. Professional sets are 100% wireless. Help! Did you encounter this issue.

It is an honor to be featured in this intro😤

Great review.

I wonder if the NR improved over time because the image it was cleaning up was static, as opposed to real world where you may be filming bushes, trees randomly moving to the wind.

Very technical.....went right over my head.

look forward to the review of the new ifootage lights

one question? does it output 4k60 or 1080p60 when recording in 120p in any resolution? for exemple to use a external monitor just as a secondary monitor, cos the hdmi output is limited to 60p for exemple in sony a7iii i can record internal 1080p120 and have a signal output of 60p to see in a secondary monitor, but with my z6 i cant, it does not output anything when recording 120p, and i would like to use a secondary monitor in some cases

Nikon is coming back stronger 💪💪

Gerald, I could use your help. I have a lot of Nikon Z Cameras and Z Glass. Ihave been waiting on the Z8, and may buy the body. Looking in better AF than the Z6 and Z7. Also the 4k 120 interests me. But now I am also looking at the Sony ZV-E1 and then pairing that with a G master lens.. I am 90 percent video. And looking for high quality AF and video. Also the flip out screen would be handy on the Sony. Which body would you recommend?

Does it have audio confirmation of roll and cut? How's the stabilization?

Good job, Gerald. Thank U.

How did the Z8 perform shooting prores raw 4k/30 internal? Did that cause any overheating issues?

The ProRes out of this camera looks good!

So how much does it cost?

Hello Gerald Thank you for your review. Question. Why don't you think Davinci Resolve has more settings for video RAW? Like in Lightroom Photo RAW development. For example the HSL colour range... Greetings from Switzerland

@andreaskoengTimelapse

Жыл бұрын

@@davidbrytus2089 thanks 😊

Any chance for video quality comparison between Z6II and Z8? 4K with max quality options? if I already have Z6 II (with BRAW recorder or internal 8 bit), would I gain quality if upgrading to Z8 - internal 4K 60p oversampled from 8K, at ISO 1000?

the review we were all waiting for 🙌 well... and DSLR Video Shooter's 😅

Would you say this would be a better camera to switch from sony a7iv for wildlife videos especially to get fullframe 4k120?

@ghas4151

Жыл бұрын

You also get access to the excellent Z telephoto lenses. Nobody does them better than Nikon.

Your reviews are the best. So detailed and insightful. Would you say it would be better for a nikon shooter who wants to do more professional video to save money and get the z8, instead of getting a s5ii to help with video jobs? Would appreciate your thoughts.

@geraldundone

Жыл бұрын

Thanks! If you already have Nikon glass, then yeah, no sense switching, the Z8 can do plenty.

@richards1243

Жыл бұрын

Thanks Gerald!

Any thoughts on the Z8 ibis?

Detailed reviews 🎉🎉

The camera is absolutely great, almost perfect!!! the unique problem is dont have a pro input of audio or adapter.

Is the Z7 II better in low light?

I know that you use DaVinci, but I think many people would want to know what it feels like to edit the different codecs in both DaVinci and Premiere, especially on slightly older computers or Laptops. A lot of cameras pack interesting features but make editing super hard which is a super important consideration in purchasing a camera for some people.

@brycefunk

Жыл бұрын

You can always download sample files to play with. Plenty of folks offer sample RAW or ProRes files from all sorts of cameras to work though on your machine. You can always use proxies too. Pretty much every NLE has some sort of proxy generator or optimized media function.

@waynerm002

Жыл бұрын

@@brycefunk Yep, Nikon does. I downloaded the 8.3k sample footage but haven’t tried it yet.

@sumtrend

Жыл бұрын

@@waynerm002 where do you download them? it will be great if you could link it here

@waynerm002

Жыл бұрын

@@sumtrend On Nikon USA page, in the section where they talk about the video specs, in the one mentioning 12 bit RAW, they provide a link to check out the files for yourself.

Great review as always, I have been waiting for this camera for a while as a more video centered body to add to my z7/z6ii bodies. I've never been happy with the z6ii footage even with the Atomos ninja v. I had a play this week with a z8 and found the video to be good, but I'm not sure its what i expected. I've been considering selling all my gear and moving to Sony. Couple of A7Rv's and associated lenses. If you were to pick between the z8 and an a7rv for video, what would you choose? Don't take price into account.

@raynerp

Жыл бұрын

rent a A7RV and a Z9 (which is the same video quality) and compare, that's the easiest way to be sure

@epicimages5583

Жыл бұрын

@@raynerp Yeah it might be... that said ive had nikon lend me the z8 recently and a z9 in the past. sony lent me an a7rv a few months ago and ive used a7s3 and fx3/6 for films, but never at the same time, same scene etc. ive used nikon for the last 20 years and so other systems don't always gel when you use them for a few days. hence my question from someone who tests them fairly rigorously.

@danielvilliers612

Жыл бұрын

@@epicimages5583 I wrote this for someone else. I was quite puzzled by how the only Z9/z8 video with a Sony sensor has such a lower DR in video. I made some research and it was quite enlighting. I would recommend anyone about the video DR of the z9 (Z8 should be very close), To check the Cine5d lab test. No big surprise when you check the synthetic Imatest benchmark which is about same as here, that is strangely the Nikon/Sony sensor scores quite lower than for example the Sony A1. But once you check the real life latitude test, the result are quite stunning. It scores at least half to a stop higher than the A1. At least 1 perhaps 1.5 above the R5c and more surprisingly Red Komodo. A very generous 4 stop above and 4 below, and if you push a little bit it could go half a stop in both highlight and shadows. www.cined.com/nikon-z-9-n-raw-lab-test-fw-3-00-rolling-shutter-dynamic-range-and-latitude/ Thats Sony A1 www.cined.com/sony-a1-lab-test-rolling-shutter-dynamic-range-and-latitude/ Canon R5c www.cined.com/canon-eos-r5-c-lab-test-rolling-shutter-dynamic-range-and-latitude/ It would be very close to the Canon C70 with its dual gain sensor with 9 stop of latitude www.cined.com/canon-eos-c70-lab-test-with-the-raw-update-rolling-shutter-dynamic-range-and-latitude/ Those test are very interesting as the likes of Alexa ARRI ALEXA Mini LF confirm they are clearly above the rest with a conservative 10 stops of latitude while other results are astonishing as the Komodo, or Sony Venice which are below what you would have expected. I think the problem with Nikon Imatest result is about its log implementation, that is they went for a more contrast look that cut the shadows so that it doesn't look too noisy contrary to others.

I wish more cameras had this size, it would be so easy to hold and handle.

just got my Z8, love it but.. There’s banding with high speed sync with my godox ad400pro flashes especially shooting faster than 1/2000s

I hope Nikon's comeback would be great as z9 and z8 to be consistent

Nikon is great again!

Is it just me or should camera makers put the mic jack on a separate rubber flap/door? If you were to use the Z8's port, the flap would be rotated completely open, exposing the full size HDMI port to the elements. Is such a port weather sealed? I'd think not but don't know.

Kudos! Awesome Presentation! just needed my translator to catch up. Slow down next time! 😅

When I switched from DSLR to mirrorless, one of the key reasons was the small size and weight, but Nikon mirrorless models are getting bigger than DSLR now, same are those huge Z mount lenses.

I’m glad it’s still excellent and it doesn’t start shipping for weeks

Thanks for the test Good job ! Is there any information about ProresRaw been pixel binned/line skipped just like the z6/z6II.? My guess is since its Raw 4.1k and Full frame it can't be full sensor readout.

@geraldundone

Жыл бұрын

Exactly. 👍

Well done as usual.

"every second that you aren't running, I'm getting closer" haha

If someone is trying to shoot super long clips of 8k RAW 60p…… I have questions

@ChouVang

Жыл бұрын

Under rated comment! I've been really curious as well.

@raynerp

Жыл бұрын

They want to shot single take movies without tricky transitions

Glad to hear it takes pictures. 😬

well explained

I'm Gerald Undone, and every time you're done, I'm just getting started.

1:47 - Did Gerald's voice crack when he said the second USB port? He must have been very excited

How long can the camera go before overheating over USB PD?

@martzallmedia

3 ай бұрын

Forever

Gerald that has to be the best opening stinger in the history of video. Makes me laugh every single time

You mentioned that the image cleaned up after recording a few seconds of h265 -- I wonder if that's only because it was a stationary/static scene though.

@editingsecrets

Жыл бұрын

Maybe at first capturing all the pixels, and then settles down to only record differences between keyframes.

if Gerald says it's a good camera, it is

thanks Gerald

Bravo, the best baby flagship camera for a non-flagship price

14:16 I love your sense of humour

You NEED to use Assimilate Scratch to calculate the real dynamic range of the Z8, you get so much more than in davinci resolve, it's almost like BlackMagic design is limiting Nikon raw footage dynamic range... use the hightlight recovey tool and even the expose setting of the .NEV format it has nothing to do compared to Davinci...

Great camera. I recommend avoiding the Nikon version of Nlog LUTs. The contrast is not as strong as V1 but the exposure shift is weird and the color saturation is still heavy.

@fotomaton7852

Жыл бұрын

..what do you recommend instead?

@cinematools9621

Жыл бұрын

@@fotomaton7852 Color Space Transform in Resolve or Cinema Tools