Jared, EVERYTHING you mention about the focus in sports is correct. 3D focus is pot luck, and you need to review the focus action in the rain depending on the lighting, focus in bright light with white objects while panning, Overcast days seem better. It's not back focus. it just jumps focus to the back depending on light conditions and subject matter in the back. Also often skips a beat at 20fps, grabbing the back on the 3rd-4th shot then back in focus.... If subject falls you loose focus to the back if using 3D/people same in Dynamic-AF. Not sticky. Focus tracking with lock on is misleading and does not appear to work as described..

@froknowsphoto

Жыл бұрын

facts right here.

@maxvain

Жыл бұрын

@@froknowsphoto Are there limitations with regard to High Speed Sync with E-shutter? Also is bokeh quality affected by E-shutter?

@hautehussey

Жыл бұрын

Well, one problem is using 3d tracking from the start isn’t the best practice to use. And he’s doing it for almost all of this video. I’m not saying it would make for a night and day difference, but might make for a significant enough of one to mention it.

@ghas4151

Жыл бұрын

@Nemat Eynullayev 2280mAh*

@bijanfotografy

Жыл бұрын

have you ever used a Z9 ? Looks like its a no ;-)

As a Nikon user, I really appreciate someone like Jared who has the platform and voice to let Nikon know their focus game is lacking. Giving it to them straight, unlike most reviews out there, whom just mindlessly repeat the specs and sugar coat the problem.

@randkalik

Жыл бұрын

I can't believe Nikon didn't correct all their AF issues. Just can't believe it.

@kais295

Жыл бұрын

I know. I have a nikon z6ii and i do concert photography and I've missed so many great shots cause the auto focus is horrible.

@alwynsmit3546

Жыл бұрын

It's because other reviewers keep sugar coating the issue & fanboys keep saying there's no problem.

@WebJuice_Sydney

11 ай бұрын

I’m so grateful also for Jared’s opinion. I have the Z9 and I’m so frustrated that I laid out so much money when it first came out to have a autofocus system that is just not up to par

@alwynsmit3546

11 ай бұрын

@@WebJuice_Sydney I appreciate reviewers who give you the low down, not some brand marketing BS that they spew because they're scared they won't get given test units or free stuff anymore

Nikon seems to go all in, no selective crippling, like Sony and Canon do. $4000 for a 45 MP stacked sensor full-frame camera, with 8k60p RAW video, with great ergonomics. That isn't bad at all, especially compared to the competition.

@lewcehjitl3282

Жыл бұрын

Yet you can buy a Sony a7iv with the same IQ for $2500.. do you really need 20fps? Mechanical shutter all the way. 😊

@VIDEOVISTAVIEW2020

Жыл бұрын

​@@lewcehjitl3282can it do 8K60?

@lewcehjitl3282

Жыл бұрын

@@VIDEOVISTAVIEW2020 no one needs 8k60fps. Our computers can’t even handle those file sizes.

@VIDEOVISTAVIEW2020

Жыл бұрын

@@lewcehjitl3282 i think, you are the only one who does not need it. Just because you dont need it means no body needs it? You seem to imply that the whole world is revolving around your requirements

@hautehussey

Жыл бұрын

@@lewcehjitl3282 don’t need 8k60, but definitely do need 4k120. And that’s what this gives you. I’d actually prefer 4k240!

Fantastic preview/review Jared. As usual, always concise, methodical and no sugar coating!

Just what i was waiting for. But why do i even care. It's not like i would be able to afford one 💀😂😂

@elboogie2324

Жыл бұрын

Yeah that part.

@ryonatkinson6637

Жыл бұрын

Same bro ☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️

@tasleemanis5631

Жыл бұрын

Same 😅

@JayKhona

Жыл бұрын

Aim for the z9 and get a z8 with some good glass 👍🫨

@waliullahmazumder

Жыл бұрын

Same here

I hope Nikon keeps up the improvement, I may shoot canon on digital but I love my Nikon film bodies and just have a soft spot for them and would love to see them make something that just blows canon and Sony out of the water. While this isn't quite it they certainly offer a compelling value and I'm excited to see what they do next and if they can revive the Z6 and Z7 line of cameras. Canon's R8 needs some competition too!

I'm just glad that it's finally announced. I got tired of all of the speculation videos.

My progression: z7 -> r5->z9. I got the r5 for better AF, but (for me) I just didn’t think the canon colors and glass had the same punch when the light got crappy. The rf 24-70L was particularly underwhelming, especially when compared side by side with the way cheaper f4 Nikkor version (I took my z7 + r5 in the field together most of the time) I just got the z9 a couple months ago and I don’t regret it at all after seeing the new z8 specs. I *loved* my r5 but my z9 is quickly becoming just as beloved, and I spend way less time in post getting the colors that I want. Both cameras have annoying AF quirks, but my overall keeper rate might be a bit higher on the z9 for my uses (wildlife, portraits, street, landscape). On both cameras I used a mix of pro level native and adapted glass and in my experience, the Nikon AF works better with old glass than the canon did. It’s also a *huge* benefit to have beautiful nikkor 1.8s to choose from. If I wanted a top quality 35 on canon I had to adapt a tamron sp 1.4 that weighed a ton. With Nikon, I can just use a z 1.8 and I’m gtg. At any rate, I would happily recommend both platforms… I don’t think the AF thing will really matter to anybody that isn’t shooting something like sports. Thanks for the great content bro!

@derwinism

Жыл бұрын

Do you have a blog or Instagram. Would love to follow you?

Even though I’m not a Nikon shooter, I still enjoy your real world reviews. Great job.

@apbassman

Жыл бұрын

Agreed with this! I shoot an R6 MK I and watching these cross-brand reviews helps me understand my own equipments strengths and weaknesses better.

@thomastuorto9929

Жыл бұрын

DJ, = The Rock?

Back in the film days, Nikon released the F100 which was basically a slimmed down F5, so the precedent is certainly there from Nikon. I loved, and still love my F100...

@UnconventionalReasoning

Жыл бұрын

Yes, and the D3/D700 pair is a similar approach.

@allthegold5068

Жыл бұрын

+1 on love for the F100

Since your first video about its 61mpx I thought it would be a stacked sensor with a smaller forma factor than the one of the Z9 and it actually was like that. Looks good and works well. Really a nice cameras

Most full, fair, candid review of all these new release reviews. Well done.

Been waiting for so long! It’s perfect! Thank you Nikon!

Definitely going to get one. The Z9 was just too big. Nikon has a winner with the z8 but if they got autofocus on par with Canon and Sony they would not only do well but destroy the rest of the market. Love the features for price. The best hybrid camera out there. Can't wait to see my landscapes and sports pictures edited with Skittles. Loved my D850 and enjoyed both my Z7 and Z7II but its time to move up. Let's go!

@silbay

Жыл бұрын

put the battery grip on the Z8 and it is bigger than the Z9 LOL stupid design

@MrVarvarVoom

Жыл бұрын

Giddy up!

@richardpool2296

Жыл бұрын

⁠@@silbay put a grip on the R6 . I dare you. It’s bigger than the R3. Stop bashing

@IPGAuto

Жыл бұрын

@@silbay Sounds like a sony fanboy lol

@montazownianr1

Ай бұрын

@@IPGAuto I agree with him. I have Z6II.

I really hope Nikon fixes the focus issues, as I face a lot of the focus issues during video shoots (although not as much for stills). But one thing about the Z8 for Z9 owners is that it will make a perfect complement for the Z9 for multi-cam video shoots.

16:43 - THANK YOU for being so honest in your videos. Spending so much money on a camera means - if you can, nowadays - to know everything before making the step. And this real world reviews is what people need.

Most likely going to get one of these. My biggest beef with the Z II's is that while they have improved AF tracking over the gen 1 bodies, it was still rather frustrating, like the AF point sometimes drifting off a subject's eye when they're not really moving. Plus the blackout-free shooting will be nice too, as I 've missed more shots with the Z bodies than I did with DSLRs (AF was more accurate, but I would miss shots because I couldn't always see if the camera was still focused on the subject -- a bird or animal -- or not due to the slideshow effect). I will say that I will probably miss the real "authentic" click of a mechanical shutter though but it's a small price to pay for what I'd be getting in the Z8 in terms of features and performance I guess.

@fizzcochito

8 ай бұрын

What'd you end up getting?

I love how all the videos come out at the exact same time .

@hautehussey

Жыл бұрын

That’s because that’s what they agree to!

@Foxintox

Жыл бұрын

@@hautehussey yeah I know ! Nonetheless it still makes me laugh when suddenly all tgevphotography youtubers I follow drop all their videos within the 5 minutes like « Yup that’s the NDA’s deadline ! » x)

@UnconventionalReasoning

Жыл бұрын

KZread has a functioning global clock and scheduling system. ⏲⏰🕰

What is essentially a diet Z9 in this price point is an excellent camera. Been using a Z9 for over a year and it looks like it, and it's a top grade camera.

Hello Jared, I use an alpha 9 to shoot almost exclusively basketball. Several time I used the alpha one. and in the regard of autofocus I think both camera are very similar. I always stick to AFC flexible spot M (as Sony recommends) and never" wide". I cannot understand how the autofocus can decide ( for any camera Canon Sony or Nikon) that player one is more important than player two or three. And that if player two catchs the ball and runs to the basket that player one is no more the one to stick on...

Thanks for honest review! Will wait for next year z7/6 update!

Well done Nikon! - That's one hell of a camera at that price point.

I am super excited for this camera. The next step Nikon needs to take is to implement the AF into their prosumer and consumer bodies. Z6iii and Z7iii need to come soon, and have very reliable AF.

@UnconventionalReasoning

Жыл бұрын

Yes, the Z6III needs to get the Expeed7 processor. I agree with Jared, the Z7 series may have ended.

@kais295

Жыл бұрын

Yeah i have the nikon z6ii and the AF sucks

@UnconventionalReasoning

Жыл бұрын

@@kais295 Yes, just give up on photography, there's no point!

@kevc.2958

Жыл бұрын

r8 focus better than an z9😂

@UnconventionalReasoning

Жыл бұрын

@@kevc.2958 True, and the only thing that matters is AF. Everything else is completely irrelevant, just don't bother doing photography...

The best Review so far 👍🙏🏾 Very instructive.

brilliant honest review best ive seen

Good video. I'm glad the Z8 finally came out, now I'm hoping for a substantial price drop on the Z7II. I was going to upgrade my Z7 but decided to wait to see what the Z8 was all about. I checked B&H, and the price of the 7ii has already dropped 400 dollars. This may sound weird, but I'm still shooting weddings and events with a pair of D750s, I'll also use the Z7 for portraits, with no complaints. I shoot landscapes, sports, wildlife and videos just for fun, so all those "advanced" features aren't game changers for me. I've said it before, scheduled "upgrades" by camera manufacturers are designed to keep the cash flowing. Don't worry, in 2 years the Z8ii will come out with amazing features we must have. The bulk of my casual shooting, especially for street photography, is with a small frame Lumix GX85 and a 35-100 2.8, or my smartphone. No, I'm not nuts, I can doctor those photos to look great with post processing software. Like the ones you're pushing...lol

@UnconventionalReasoning

Жыл бұрын

It's great that you're still using the D750 for weddings. In the past decade, human beings are still the same. They walk down the aisle at the same speed. They dance to the same music at the reception. 💪

@hoangvu620

Жыл бұрын

​@@UnconventionalReasoning for real? I thought modern wedding are held at extra high speed with people moving in an unpredictable trajectory in an almost black dark room, while continue to blink eyes and turn their face around... 😮😮😮

@UnconventionalReasoning

Жыл бұрын

@@hoangvu620 That's what Sony wants you to believe.

You are doing great job Jared, I admire you.

Was hoping for a side-by-side view with the grip as compared to the Z9 - thank you sir! 👏🏻 The Z8 is BIG with the MB-N12 grip, and why is this grip not as wide as the body? Looks funny. Some decisions: If I get the Z8, I don't think I want the grip. And I really wanted a card door lock button. That plus the price coming in at $4000 - I think I've decided on the Z9 for my first Expeed7 body.

The Z7III can be the big 60mp camera body. I pretty much expected the Z8 to be baby Z9, totally made sense to me and was an easy development while being something a lot of people wanted.

@hautehussey

Жыл бұрын

Yep. The z7iii will be the landscape and whatnot camera.

@UnconventionalReasoning

Жыл бұрын

The difference between 45 and 60 mp is insignificant. It's less than taking a 20x30" print and making it 24x36".

@hautehussey

Жыл бұрын

@@UnconventionalReasoning 9504 x 6336 vs 8256 x 5504 Probably right.

@UnconventionalReasoning

Жыл бұрын

@@hautehussey From 20 x 30" to 23 x 34.5" I'll send you a spreadsheet if you want... Because that's how tiny the difference is that some are whining about.

The main reasons to still get a Z9: * Battery life * Integrated grip * Longer video recording without overheating issues * Dual CFexpress card slots

Great video Jared! I ordered the Z8 right after the release and is already on back order at BH.

I watched this video when it first came out and I’m watching it again after my Z8 arrived. Thanks

Look, Jared, the point is, they made the Z9 (one of the most capable cameras of all time) 1500 $ cheaper!!! There isn't much to improve on that. That is 27 % cheaper! That really cuts into the profit margin, so it is an amazing feat to offer a camera like that for this price.

@parttimephotographer3384

Жыл бұрын

He made that same point.... so what is yours?

@servidorroque4954

Жыл бұрын

@@parttimephotographer3384, easy, easy boy

@john32712

Жыл бұрын

@@parttimephotographer3384 how about the thousands of other specs that are just as important that never get discussed like weather sealing and build quality. I have heard horror stories of Sony cameras in inclimate weather…

@zfreek98

Жыл бұрын

@@john32712 - I had my A1s out in thunderstorms, getting drenched, with both Sony and Sigma lenses, eand have zero issues. Never had issues with my Z7IIs before I switched either where weathersealing is concerned. Meanwhile, a friend killed his R6 when he got rained on for three minutes. Must just be a YMMV thing here.

@parttimephotographer3384

Жыл бұрын

@@john32712 In this video he calls out his Z9 review when it comes to a lot of this information. The weather sealing on the Z9 and 8 are the same, and awesome... Guess I just don't understand what you are calling out. This was a very positive look at the Z8 which is a Mini-Me of the Z9

I shoot the Z7ii and Z9 and my keeper rate is above 98.5%. This includes actions, still life and everything in the middle. I am not a genius... wait maybe I am, I can't be the only one with this much AF success with the Z7ii and the Z9. Enough said.

@froknowsphoto

Жыл бұрын

You are.

@reneefariasphoto40

Жыл бұрын

@@froknowsphoto LOL. Thanks.

@ryancooper3629

Жыл бұрын

I'd love to know your secret because in studio my Z7ii is like 50% at best and I constantly have the issue Jared shows where it tells me its in focus when it isn't. Do you usually shoot with a fairly deep depth of field which means even if the camera misses a bit the shot is still usable? I've tried single point, eye autofocus, AF-S, AF-C, and it consistently struggles. I'd estimate my miss rate when shooting wide open on 1.4 glass is around 50% and I am not recomposing at all.

@IR-xy3ij

Жыл бұрын

​@@ryancooper3629 I think it's believable to get 98.5% hit rate with AF-C but no tracking

Looks like an amazing machine for sure!

I'm really happy for Nikon shooters; but from what I've learned in this video, I'll keep my newly acquired (used) D850! It's there to 'backup' my EXCELLENT Olympus OM-1's! When I listened to all your complaints, I said to myself: "But my OM-1(s) already have that --- with WAY more lenses to choose from!".

As a Z9 shooter I'm not 'upset' that I spent more when I could have the Z8 now for so much less, because I've had the Z9 in my hand for over a year and have got a load of amazing shots that I wouldn't have got on my Z7..! If I'd bought the Z9 more recently though I might have been a little annoyed!

@makatron

Жыл бұрын

I'm still going for Z9 though, love full body cameras for the weight and handling.

@gunselect2116

Жыл бұрын

@@makatron I guess you like the back and wrist pain that comes with that also.

@UnconventionalReasoning

Жыл бұрын

If someone bought a Z9 in 2023, they did it with full knowledge that a Z8 seemed likely. And that 'mini-Z9' was one of the possibilities, along with 'higher-res'. They can only be annoyed with themselves.

@makatron

Жыл бұрын

@@gunselect2116 I've shot weddings with full body cameras since the D3s all the way to the D5. Back pain? Maybe workout and I promise you those back pains will disappear.

@makatron

Жыл бұрын

@Photo Bunny which camera bag are you running? I might run out of space once the Z8 comes.

It’s a hardware issue for Nikon. Nikon only has 500 AF pts at 90% coverage. Canons have over 5000 AF pts at 100% coverage. This deficit can’t be overcome by firmware updates.

I’m coming from a Z6ii, so this is stellar for me. Just pre-ordered my Z8.

Glad I invested 2 Nikon Z9 cameras as the Z8 is pretty much the same thing. If the Z8 had a 61 mp sensor and a HSL control feature in the camera's picture control settings I may have considered buying one.

Man, when nikon made the D700 it was just a mini D3, with a few less features, like not quite as fast and whatnot, and people loved it. Now the Z8 is quite literally just a Z9 without a grip, and so many people are already hating on it. Maybe if they make a Z7iii it'll be like the A7r5, slower with super high resolution

@UnconventionalReasoning

Жыл бұрын

People are hating on the Z8 because they think 60mp is a significant improvement over 45mp. It's making a 20x30" print into a 24x36" print. Which client will care?

@JuanSanchez-zz3me

Жыл бұрын

@Unconventional Reasoning okay but for real though. At 300 dpi it's something like 31 inches vs 29. I saw someone calling it a low resolution video camera, not suited for landscape. Like excuse me? 45mp vs 60mp sounds like a lot, but it's like comparing a 15mp camera to a 20mp camera. If one is good enough, the other one probably is too. In my experience, you don't really notice huge MP differences until its more than 50% of an increase, and really more when it's closer to double the increase.

@joshmcdzz6925

Жыл бұрын

@@JuanSanchez-zz3me i guess they don't know nothing about Topac.. i can upscale my 12mpx image to 60... and 1080 60p to 4k 24k

@AlienGrade

Жыл бұрын

@@JuanSanchez-zz3me nikon z6 II user from a Nikon d810 and my enlarged prints actually look better on the z6II which has less MP's. Camera IQ has a lot to do with is as well, to expand on your point.

I`m super happy that Nikon finally came up with a new camera (I`ve had all the Z´s besides from the Z9) and thrilled for the Nikon shooters. I love a lot about Nikon, and in particular their ergonomics and files. But I jump ship to Sony these days cause I didn`t feel Nikon would totally catch up and I don`t like their slow innovation. I don`t need the best, but buying camera gear is expensive and you want to be around the ball park with the best at least (auto focus as one feature. Even though it is good it should be closer to the innovation from Sony/Canon). On top of that I think 1.4 lenses is a sweet spot combining price, weight and quality, making me switch to Sony and at the same time avoiding Canon who also goes directly to 1.2 on their native RF glass. I am disappointed that the Z8 don`t appear to have the same auto focus as the A7IV at least, cause it is important to feel they are closing the gap quicker than where they have been. I do love using Nikon though and there are several thiings that are way better in their cameras compared to my new Sonys, but the total package considering speed of future improvements made me move. But Go Nikon! And congrats to all those who hung in their waiting 😊

@UnconventionalReasoning

Жыл бұрын

🍷🍷🍷

@Youtuber-ku4nk

Жыл бұрын

I’ll go further and say that I’m disappointed that there don’t seem to be any new tech at all. Just a smaller body with smaller battery and different cards. Also too bad that they remove the dial on top left. I used to use it on D810.

@ksphotography730

Жыл бұрын

@@KZreadr-ku4nk Yeah I can agree with you on that. It is a Z9 in a smaller body (Matt Granger said it well, «is it enough after 19 months?») which is good at that price, but then again no to little innovation for 19 months. I would call myself a «Nikon-preferred» user because of their usability as I feel that the Z system are 2nd to none in that area. Their Z lenses are dead sharp and absolutely fantastic, even the non S lenses. If I were shooting landscapes only I wouldn`t have swiched, but I use the auto focus a lot in portraiture and other situations and I want to invest in a system/brand that provides me with new functionality and innovation in a pace somewhat close to the others. But a big reason for choosing Sony though was their 1.4 lense lineup and 3rd party lense compatibility, cause on ergonomics and usability Nikon destroys Sony in my opinion. I got better eco system and functionality with Sony and lost on the ergonomics and usability. Canon too expensive, Sony too bad on usability (also with the new menu system which has improved), Nikon too bad on innovation …. no brand is perfect

Just the vid i needed.. Brilliant comparisons. My step from nikon to sony 7 series is a bit further now.. 👍👍

It's built like a tank, so amazin... time to pre-order guys❤🎉

Nikon wants to sell a lot of these and most photographers only need up to 45MP at most which adds to its capture rate, as 60MP is usually overkill. Why not give the pros what they really want. Most pros don't need 60MP (except for maybe landscapers). As a successor to D850 this is a fully loaded camera. It is actually better because the video specs were not great in live AF in the D850. The z8 has faster read out speed over the Sony. Sony does have its great live AF, but Nikon Z8 and Z9 have improved greatly in AF.

Thanks for showing the real world samples! I think it'll be a nice update from my Z6. I'm excited for the Z8. I lighter body would be nice for those hikes.

@lewcehjitl3282

Жыл бұрын

Let us know on the IQ! The original Z6 has better IQ than this new z8

@jooyoonchung3593

Жыл бұрын

The Z8 is 300g heavier than the Z6, I.e. 45% heavier. The z8 is a hundred grams shy of the weight of D850. It is not a light camera, except in comparison to heavy cameras. I’m sure it is great to use and makes great pictures, though.

Yup, that jumping to the back when the box is in the correct spot happens to me as well. Z9 + 70-200mm

That shot of the percussion player peeking over an instrument is brilliant.

The Z8 and Z9 look like epic video cameras except for ONE really annoying missing feature that both Canon and Sony have in all their cameras at this level (and below) now: Dual redundant video recording. This is SUPER important for professionals and as a professional photographer who sometimes shoots video, this is a HUGE sticking point for me, not even considering the focus issues that were mentioned. Canon seem to have fixed both the overheating and added dual redundancy now, so they're looking very strong. 8k60 is nice, but not as much of a deal breaker as tje redundancy issue. And R5s are looking cheap now, especially if you buy used. Hopefully Nikon can add this in firmware and get themselves back in the game for pro video people.

@KobusGevelspar

6 ай бұрын

I have shot video for 10+ years and have NEVER needed to save on two cards simultaneously. Why is that important to you?

@mdhazeldine

6 ай бұрын

@@KobusGevelspar Because memory cards can get corrupted sometimes, and there are a lot of professional shoots I do where it would be really hard or impossible to arrange a re-shoot. The chances of it happening are small, but it's just a peace of mind thing having that redundancy there.

Sony Exec - "Oh shit quick release a firmware update for the A1!! but don't change anything for god sakes!"

I am particularly excited with the Nikon come back… Z9 compressed into a smaller affordable body is great… But it is equally exciting to watch Nikon finally catch up on the marketing front… counter for launch date, product already distributed to influencers in the community, simultaneous release of influencer videos globally with the product release… If Nikon keeps this up, they will grab significant market share from Canon and Sony… and with a Zf from Fuji 😂

that's a pretty wild camera for the price. I'm still waiting on a D500 Z equivalent tough. I love the apsc-format and don't want to pay the price of a FF used in crop mode

In my opinion there is too much time between the release of the z9 and z8 for so little technical change.

@froknowsphoto

Жыл бұрын

agree

@VIDEOVISTAVIEW2020

Жыл бұрын

Consider the fact that it is 1.5k cheaper. There is nothing much they can do to squeeze from that price point otherwise, they will risk canibalizing potential sales from the Z9.

@marcohamacherprivat

Жыл бұрын

@@VIDEOVISTAVIEW2020 it still makes no sense to not implement technologies in more recent models. only to make the top models supposedly equal or better. Nikon either doesn't want or can't do that at the moment. 🤷🏻

Z8 looks like a home run. That vertical grip looks like an afterthought though lol

@vivalasvegas702

Жыл бұрын

Home run if it had a decent AF. Z8 AF performance is slow, confused and blurry.

@UnconventionalReasoning

Жыл бұрын

@@vivalasvegas702 Yes, why even bother trying to take pictures? The camera is so much more important than the photographer, if it isn't perfect, just hang it up.

@PeteCocoPhoto

Жыл бұрын

@@vivalasvegas702 How do you know?

@PeteCocoPhoto

Жыл бұрын

@@kevinmac9442 Yeah it's funny to me how many of the vertical grips look so odd or like they don't quite fit nicely.

Good to see what the evf viewfinder looks like in a variety of lighting condition. As your seeing a corrected version of the light and not the actual light I don't know how you're supposed to make decisions. Hopefully Nikon has a sneaky last dslr in production soon.

Nikon is great to shoot slow moving rocks and trees, it has been shown that it takes the sharpest photos when paired with a 30kg tripod and specially on days that the earth isn’t rotating

so far this video has been THEE best real-world preview of the z8. you covered everything and im just gonna go fukin buy it !!! ( i have the D500 )

Well done Jared and your timing is impeccable. Kudos to Steven. I have a Z9 and D850 but the Z8 looks to be a good choice for b roll and use the D850 for alternate shooting type (macro or IR). Thanks for the stream. Jim

@brianglock3099

Жыл бұрын

Also shoot with Z9 and D850 the Z8 is going to be a great addition. Have been thinking second Z9 but the z8 offers options where a smaller body works best while retaining the majority of the Z9 features. The 850 will probably have some uses.

@realnikonlover6207

Жыл бұрын

@@brianglock3099 I was thinking about converting the D850 to IR as a third camera option.

@brianglock3099

Жыл бұрын

@@realnikonlover6207 Nice idea

The guys at DP Review, (now Peta Pixel channel) Jordan said that when shooting video, it's one of the first times he hasn't used manual focus at all, and relied totally on the auto focus on the Z8, because he trusted it so much. He said it's one of the first cameras he's ever been able to use solely on auto focus for shooting their shows. kzread.info/dash/bejne/io6E2NZykamrqJc.html

Thanks! I have been waiting to swap my 850 and I might do it now.

Well . . . if not for the autofocus . . . . Now we know why Canon dropped the prices of the R5 and R3 (at least temporarily). The new R5 price is probably where it should be now if Canon wants to remain competitive. A stacked sensor is worth $500 if you're shooting fast-moving stuff like sports and wildlife. But the R3 . . . if not for the autofocus, the price of the R3 (at normal retail) is probably $1500 too high. Great camera. Amazing autofocus. Big battery drives big lenses amazingly quickly . . . but 24MP??? Really??? With the Z8 and Z9, Nikon wins the spec sheet wars. Canon cannot compete on specs. C'mon, Canon! If Nikon had got the autofocus right, I would have made the switch. The spec sheet battle goes to Nikon for at least the next year. But Canon's autofocus (and my collection of Canon glass) keeps me in Canon, for now.

@themediocrephotographer1301

Жыл бұрын

24 megapixels is actually pretty nice if you don’t need to crop to the point of oblivion

@ghas4151

Жыл бұрын

The R5 is £300 more expensive in the UK. Crazy.

@sotirisgiannikas7184

Жыл бұрын

Canon is the future! 24MP it’s ok! U can do anything u want! Btw the first dslr has 4MP. R3 is the best value for money camera and spec! I think more MP it’s triviality. More MP more noise when u have high iso.

@howiesternphoto

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, but the R3 with 24mp is the best low light camera out there now. It’s unreal how clean it is at high ISO…

@gromenteal2133

Жыл бұрын

With $5500 24mp is absolutely ridiculous. 24mp is definitely not enough.

Is still pretty a pretty sick camera tho

I am buying a SECOND Z 8 it is THAT good. I have the Z 9 as well, but the Z 8 is awesome.

DSLRs never had an autofocus system like the mirrorless cameras, meaning that mirrorless cameras have autofocus as a software feature (although still in the firmware itself). I remember when I first had this autofocus on my old Z6 and it was a game changer. Not at the levels of the competitors but still better than nothing. Sony has a huge advantage in software engineering being a huge software house for games (Playstation) and other stuff. Nikon never had software engineers neither the experience Sony has. So they had to catch up. What Nikon needs are a fresh mindset of new software engineers with AI experience to redesign the autofocus system. Of course a good autofocus system needs a good performing hardware as well, in the case of the Z9 and Z8 I think the hardware is more than enough to run an optimized AI version of the autofocus. I do own a Nikon Z6ii now and wish some of those features sneak down to my HW although many say it won't because the HW isn't capable of handing the autofocus AI system. Well, I'm happy with it and will keep it until a huge step is done by the various vendors that nowadays HW would be like a horse compared to a modern car... Unless it breaks or I get a good offer to sell, the Z6ii is staying

This makes me hopeful for the rumored Z6 III

@UnconventionalReasoning

Жыл бұрын

The Z6III will actually be the most important Nikon camera body of 2023, if it happens. Simply upgrading to the Expeed7 processor will be sufficient.

@fifty_10

Жыл бұрын

@Unconventional Reasoning I agree. I'm shooting on a Z5 now and TBH I'd love to move up to a more capable Z6 III if it had the Z8/Z9 processor and focusing features

@UnconventionalReasoning

Жыл бұрын

@@fifty_10 If Nikon does not do that in 2023, it would be there biggest mistake.

The body has incorporated a magnesium plate that the mount is attached to, this is much better than the plastic face the mount is screwed onto with the other brands. Or the prosumer cameras like the D850 and D500, Sony and Canon.

@MrBazReviews

Жыл бұрын

Which parts are mag alloy though it's not clear on the information, front/top/back panels?

@silbay

Жыл бұрын

considering modern engineered plastics are lighter and stronger than most metals short of titanium your observation is that of a uneducated noob from 20 years ago. Thanks for playing

That focusing system is hilarious!! Canon ftw!

Been sitting on my Z6 upgrading glass a little bit at a time to Z glass, waiting for the Z8. It is time. 😎

As of right now, in NZ the R3 is around $8800. The Z8 is around $8000. With the new firmware update the R3 can shoot up to a phenomenal 195FPS burst rate. With the eye tracking focus, and just better focus all around, if I were in the market for a camera of this caliber it's a no-brainer; I'd buy an R3 every time.

It's obvious that Nikon is aiming the Z9 at those pro sports, wildlife photographers that need a super durable camera (not to say the Z8 is not durable). Those pros will go with the Z9. But Nikon is seeking market share and this camera will do it. For those of us who do mostly landscape and a little sports will go for the Z8. You failed to give Nikon credit for not dumbing down a flagship in its less expensive camera (unlike Canon).

@stepheneckert4006

Жыл бұрын

17:57

Your names for the presets are absolutely hilarious 🤣

toujours au TOP ... JARED Merci pour tes conseils avisés

I like the improvement. I just want them to start tackling their entry level market at a fast pace. They are still behind. It has been 3 years since they released the Z6 and Z7 (II) and they don't have anything to compete with Canon or Sony's $2000 price range. The Z8 is amazing... But if I were a consumer that looked at online reviews between Canon, Sony and Nikon with a $3000 budget... Why would I buy an outdated camera, processor, etc... in a Z6II over a A7 IV or a Canon R6?

@UnconventionalReasoning

Жыл бұрын

That's the issue, looking at online reviews only. The biggest benefit a consumer gets with the Z6II compared to the A7IV is the need for less post processing. Does the consumer need the difference in AF? Posting their pics on IG will look great from any of the cameras.

@GamingMailbox

Жыл бұрын

@@UnconventionalReasoning True but when you have a job to do at an event or with a client and you notice how inconsistent the focusing system is and you have to dumb down your super smart camera you just spent $2500 on... Makes you wonder why you would spend that kind of money and not go with Canon or Sony. I tried Nikon Z6II AF... It didn't compare to my Canon or Sony experience and was just flat out frustrating. I gave it two weeks, I used it daily and I went to something I enjoyed the experience of more. Maybe I'm a jerk for using my two week return policies to give multiple things a try so I can be more informed. I ended up on Canon.

@UnconventionalReasoning

Жыл бұрын

@@GamingMailbox Enjoy your Canon. Don't know why you're whining on a video about Nikon, then... To gloat about how amazing you are?

@GamingMailbox

Жыл бұрын

@@UnconventionalReasoning Lmao no. We just talked about how I wish that Nikon could do more and catch up with its competition.

@UnconventionalReasoning

Жыл бұрын

@@GamingMailbox Maybe there is more than one way to measure the quality of a product? It's more than a single-track race? But you switched to Canon, so why do you care?

anyone else notice the Nikon old Z7 is more expensive than the Z7ii on the website

Jared you NEVER EVER AGE! ❤

Nikon allows you to adjust how sensitive the autofocus is to foreground objects interfering with a base runner or bird in flight. Custom settings menu, a3. Blocked shot autofocus response, scale of 1-5, 3 is default.

Thanks for the honest review Jared! I’m sticking with Canon and my R5

Nikon whimped out on video functionality. Digital hotshoe or *something* more than an extra USB-C port.

Now we need a D750 replacement. Z6iii with this focusing system I guess.

What kind of files does it shoot Jarret?! 😂 you’re too funny man!

AF performance is not the best but at least it has a stack sensor. Well done, Nikon.

@chimpy9823

Жыл бұрын

It's a pity it has the same AF as the Z9 🤔.

@UnconventionalReasoning

Жыл бұрын

@@chimpy9823 What did you expect? It has the same processor as the Z9. An Expeed8 might be in the Z9II in 2024-5.

@chimpy9823

Жыл бұрын

@@UnconventionalReasoning true words mate, I would be miffed if spent money on a Z9 and could pick up a mini version for approx £1300 cheaper. 🙀

@UnconventionalReasoning

Жыл бұрын

@@chimpy9823 People knew the Z8 was very likely since last summer, before the Z9 was available 'on the shelf'. There were clearly two paths Nikon could take: 'mini-Z9' or 'high-res Z7'. More than 15 months later, something almost as good came out for 30% less. Okay. If someone had the need and resources for a Z9, they got use out of it for a year before the cheaper option showed up. This is the reality of technology, cheaper things come out a year or two later. If someone is miffed, they need to grow up.

A true successor to the D850

@dicekolev5360

Жыл бұрын

Hell no, the battery life on this seems like 3x worse thqn d850.... god, Nikon is getting worse and worse.

@zippofire8550

Жыл бұрын

​@@dicekolev5360 it's Mirrorless camera with more computing power than the D850. Surely it need more power. All things that can be fixed though

@ThatNorma

Жыл бұрын

​@@dicekolev5360lol what a shit argument. Mirrorless always consumed more battery than DSLRs. Also you can charge this thing on the fly, you can also swap batteries without stopping shooting. Dont know in what world you live in. The camera is literally being praised as a beast and yet you people always complain

@shang-hsienyang1284

Жыл бұрын

​@@dicekolev5360 CIPA is irrelevant and misleading

@teslaliveus860

Жыл бұрын

Nope, horrible battery life and lacks that left dial function.

Thanks Jared for another great video! Have you considered comparing a comparably priced video camera to a Z9 or other flagship mirrorless cameras from a video standpoint? For me, especially sports/action video, a shoulder mounted video camera yields me better results. Until Nikon gets their AI under control I'll stick with my D6's.

Great vid!! Thank you!! Question: if you shoot 4k 120fps - is the footage impeccable or does it feel "downgraded" compared it's 4k 60fps quality? Thank you!

Jared is obsessed with autofocus and I dont see any nikon photographer complaining about it.

@froknowsphoto

Жыл бұрын

I do. I speak to them.

This guy clearly has a major partnership with Nikons rivals.

You are spot on about the focus. I shoot Sony, Canon, and Nikon for work. The key is that it is a struggle compared to the other 3 in dynamic situations. Most of the time, it's perfectly serviceable, and even when it is a struggle, it performs well, it just fights you a bit. I still prefer shooting the Z9 to the available bodies from Canon and Sony even if the autofocus fights me a little more. Anything less than a Z8 or Z9 doesn't keep up at all with focus, and it feels to me like Nikon can get there with firmware (which they have been great about). The keyword though is struggle. It's important to emphasize that it is capable for action work, it just makes you work a little harder than you should have to for the results.

@DEGAtv

Жыл бұрын

Great about firmware? What happened to all the promised firmware updates for the Z6ii?

@Synmomusic

Жыл бұрын

@@DEGAtv what promises were made? There was an update last month wasn't there?

@DEGAtv

Жыл бұрын

@@Synmomusic we were promised consistent firmware updates for three years, and in the past 2 years have gotten just 1 or 2.

@toddysurcharge771

8 ай бұрын

@@DEGAtvSony camera get even less updates

Just like D3/D700 - that also was a winner. Love that Nikon doesn't crop their prosumer camera features like Canon.

Why were you using 3D tracking?! In this review you are using a Nikon Z9 with auto eye detect, Why wouldn't you not use that for the real world review instead of using 3D Tracking for everything??? Jarad we need to chat man. Last night I shot Game 5 of the NBA Playoffs, And I have never shot any NBA games, and I'm having a VERY VERY hard time finding ANY out of focus images out of over 1500 images. You need to use the proper focus for the situation, Thats why there are so many options to choose from, I have over 300,000 clicks in just over one year, I know what this camera can do and can't do. The focus locks on and sticks like glue. Period

@bartromanowski1262

Жыл бұрын

I've been shooting wildlife (and fast moving pets) for the whole year, it's extremely rare for me to get an out of focus shot that wasn't my fault. Out of 20k+ images there might have been one or two.

@ecs2sy501

Ай бұрын

So what’s is the best focus setting. I have a Nikon z8 and pulling my hair out as i feel it’s missing a lot of shots lol. I even thinking of selling it and going to canon R6ii. I look for to your reply. I’m currently shooting with the Tamron 35-150 lens.

For me, the magic of the D850 was the incredible image quality.. Now 6 years later they have a worse sensor in terms of colour and dynamic range. By the way, I do have the Z9 and D850 and the Z9 image isn't on the same level as my D850.

@OkwyUgonweze

Жыл бұрын

I agree with you .

@Chopper153

Жыл бұрын

I guess Z7 mk3 will have slower autofocus but better sensor. Z8 is basically a small Z9.

@FlyinRyanProductions406

Жыл бұрын

So if I send you two RAW files stripped of meta data you will tell me which photo is which?

@ThatNorma

Жыл бұрын

Where the hell did u see worse colour and worse dynamic range?

@OkwyUgonweze

Жыл бұрын

@@ThatNorma theZ9 has worse color and dynamic range compared to the D850.

It’s great but also little frustrating they are not able to update the lower cost bodies faster, just with new processor and AF system at least, especially as Canon seems to have released an entire lineup in APS-C and FF bodies at various prices with their AF over last 2 years.

Nikon is after image quality with its 45mp sensor in Z8, and other reviewers like Matt Irwin in his video, have proved that the 60mp sensor of Sony A7R5 in low light has far more noise and diffraction for softer images in low light compared to 45mp. Good reason to avoid Sony A7R5 at 61mp, however the A1 from Sony is very good at 50mp and a good choice. Matt claims the 45mp sensor of z8, z9. R5 (and A1 at 50mp) is the best all rounder sensor size (around 45mp) for photo and video and output best to 8K video as well. Z8 has a fast processor. The Sony A1 and Nikon z8, z9 have BSI sensor while the R5 has a front read sensor. However R5 now is the oldest camera and due for a refresh. I would guess that Canon will include a BSI sensor and faster processor plus other features in a R5 mark 2 update.

Great pricing at $4k for a stacked sensor and 8k video. Sony A1 is $6500 (crazy). Please Nikon continue to work on the autofocus. I loved my D850 and still have my A7Riii.

@vivalasvegas702

Жыл бұрын

Yeah I know AF still sucks, it’s better than Z7ii though 😂😂😂

@UnconventionalReasoning

Жыл бұрын

Looking Z9 firmware upgrades in the past 15 months suggests that Nikon is continuing to work on the AF.

@RichardoBrit

Жыл бұрын

@@vivalasvegas702 I’ve heard so many conflicting reports. Some saying it’s excellent but most agreeing the A7RV and Canon R5 are still better. I think the R5ii could be interesting. I so wish I didn’t have so many E mount lenses as Sony pricing for bodies is high and firmware support is nearly zero

@RichardoBrit

Жыл бұрын

@@UnconventionalReasoning agree! They have been great. I wish I didn’t have so much in Sony right now as I couldn’t wait for a true D850 successor… but this is super tempting. Great job Nikon

@UnconventionalReasoning

Жыл бұрын

@@RichardoBrit People bought into the myth that the Z7II was not a viable D850 successor. Again, everyone thinks *only* of AF when devaluing the Nikon cameras.

Hum... Seems to me that Sony has a problem. This is a mini Z9... the Z9 is competing with the A1 for $1000 less... so now the Z8 is competing with the A1 for $2500 less. As for the Z7III, it's going to become the Hi-Res model... 60mpix+ ... better AF (than the Z7II).... 10 frames per sec... there is room for it in the lineup (just not with the 45 mpix sensor)

Thank you for the review! I’m a D850 shooter as a hold out and I think this camera takes me to mirrorless.

Finally ordered it❤❤

It looks like Nikon know they can't beat canon or Sony's autofocus this generation, so they're targeting value for money. It's a valid market tactic, and it seems to be working for them, but I do hope they catch up with their autofocus.

@knoxyish

Жыл бұрын

with in the next 3 years they will be miles in front of them .

@UnconventionalReasoning

Жыл бұрын

Without Sony or Canon's AF, a photographer might as well just hang it up. There's no point even trying to make images.

@VIDEOVISTAVIEW2020

Жыл бұрын

Surely they well, it's just a matter of firmware updates for the z9/z8

@UnconventionalReasoning

Жыл бұрын

@@VIDEOVISTAVIEW2020 It might be a mix of hardware and software. The Z9/Z8 should continue to improve, though a bigger jump will likely happen with the Expeed8 processor, probably in 2024-5 in the Z9II.

@VIDEOVISTAVIEW2020

Жыл бұрын

@@UnconventionalReasoning possibly, the expeed7 is not yet utized to its full potential, lets wait what a firmware 4 can do

Youre allways wrong jared

@jasonabraham7673

Ай бұрын

N u r right!!! Then make ur own channel

Might need to cop this for video 💪

Love the Z9! But im gonna sell it and buy this. Too heavy and big. But the Nikon glass is the best!