Astounding what Nikon has created in less than 5 years with it's Z-Mount. Rapid expansion.

@muttishelfer9122

10 ай бұрын

this lens is created by Tamron😂

Glad to see you're finally reviewing the Tamron 17-28 :p

@jorgepinogarciadelasbayonas

10 ай бұрын

I am glad that Nikon offers many choices for customers contrary to Canon.

Wonderful review. Thank you and God bless you and your family.

So it is the Tamron

@Eikenhorst

10 ай бұрын

Yes, I guess this is just the Tamron, but now released as a Nikon lens. I guess this way they can charge a premium keep some basic design features of the Nikon lenses and save on R&D. I think consumers are far worse off with this arrangement, since the Tamron for E-mount is 500 euros cheaper for the same thing and on E-mount you get a ton more choices

@M3D1K

10 ай бұрын

Rebranded and almost double the price.

@TW-iu9zy

10 ай бұрын

… yes, it is the Tammy. 🤷🏼‍♂️ Or is the Tamron a Nikki? 😄

@DixonLu

10 ай бұрын

QQQ: Is it made by Tamron or is Nikon using the optical design but make it in the Nikon factory with Nikon firmware?

@thephotoyak

10 ай бұрын

​@@M3D1K almost double? US retail (without sales) is $900 on Tamron and $1200 on the Nikon. That's 33% extra, not "almost double"

As everyone knows, the new Nikon Z-mount 17-28mm f2.8; 28-75mm f2.8; and 70-180mm f2.8 are all internally the same three Tamron lenses that were built for Sony E-mount. It is all part of Nikon's collaboration with Tamron which includes Tamron-badged Z-mount lenses. Sony owns part of Tamron, and Nikon and Sony have been business partners for a long time with Nikon's best cameras having Sony-built image sensors. All a good thing, as these Tamron lenses have been hugely popular with Sony users, sharp, excellent quality and affordable. I have had the Tamron 17-28mm f2.8 for Sony E-mount since early 2020 and love it. I have used it with my A9, A7RIV, A1, and A7SIII. All three lenses are a bit cheaper in Sony E-mount. Cheers and thanks.

Let's hope for Nikon users that they are able to rebadge the Tamron 20-40mm next. The zoom range is super useful, it costs less, and has great image quality! Plus it's surprisingly light weight.

@coltoncyr2283

10 ай бұрын

Ill stick to my $450 Tamron 17-35mm 2.8-4 !, but i would 100% get the 14-30mm over this "Nik-ron'

@USGrant21st

9 ай бұрын

I have Tamron 20-40mm on Megadap adapter, it work perfectly. The only drawback is a very tight mount.

@subbuks2160

8 ай бұрын

I think no more rebadging. Tamron launched 35-150, 150-500 for z mount with their own name. Nikon might have realised that rebadging will just slow down launch & release timeline. Wish sigma launch some of their lenses for z mount soon. Until now only 3 primes were released.

@USGrant21st

8 ай бұрын

@@subbuks2160 I'm not very positive on Sigma. I had several lenses with AF not working or poorly working on Megadap adapter, which tells me that their AF design might be very different. For comparison, all Tamron lenses worked great.

@estoylisto

4 ай бұрын

​@@coltoncyr2283 totally agree ... I got the 17-35 2.8-4 last year (I got for 200$ used).... enjoying it on both Dslr and ML bodies... If I'm gonna upgrade, it would be the 14-30 f4

great review as usual and kind of off topic but i miss fixed focal length lenses 😔

Hi Chris, could you please review the Nikon 24mm F1.7 apsc lens if you have a chance. Many thanks 🙏

Love your Z lens reviews even though I'm still on F mount at the moment! I wonder if we'll ever get a proper review of the Z8, or... the Z F which is meant to come out soon, which might make more sense as you previously reviewed the Z FC

@christopherfrost

10 ай бұрын

I absolutely love testing Z mount lenses. A Z8 review is in the making.

@striderwhiston9897

10 ай бұрын

@@christopherfrost Very nice

@Jawad.1

10 ай бұрын

STILL WAITING FOR Review of the Z 85mm F1.2

@christopherfrost

10 ай бұрын

@@Jawad.1 I am on their list for a review copy haha :-) apparently in September they will send one to me for testing. Can't wait.

@striderwhiston9897

10 ай бұрын

@@christopherfrost Oh also, if you don't mind me asking one more question (I know we may be a bit annoying, sorry) do you have any plans for reviewing the soon-to-release Nikon Z 180-600mm? Or is it just only if Nikon offers to borrow it to you?

Question: do you refocus the camera on the corners of your sharpness test paper when you look there? If not, wouldn’t any lens that has a spherical focus plane, be it convex or concave, just be out of focus in the corner? This would mostly be a problem for wide angle lenses. Thanks.

@budthecyborg4575

7 ай бұрын

It's safe to assume that almost no-one has ever refocused the corners when shooting charts, though with modern cameras having full sensor AF and touchscreens it might be possible to set up an efficient workflow to include separate images for the corners.

Why are people bothered it’s a Tamron version? I wish this was around instead of my 14-24 costing twice the price. It’s be fine for event work

@coltoncyr2283

10 ай бұрын

Becasue now Nikon can add $100-$300 or w.e MORE to these lenses, so we will NOT see Tamron versions of these; They locked the door on Tamron. They just did it with the new 180-600, Tamrons 150-500. ($1700 vs $1200) Not saying they are bad lenses. The 180-600 is going to be one of Nikons best sellers, and for good reasons. I bet Nikon makes a 45-150mm next! to copy the amazing 35-150mm from Tamron. just watch.

@AbhinavYadav-zm7ut

10 ай бұрын

@@coltoncyr2283 true, but I think lenses bring more revenue than bodies. Or at least in my case that's the case, I have a z50 which was like $900 but I have a 20mm F1.8S which is more expensive than the camera, and a 50mm s and the 24-200. If there were Sigma or Tamron options, I would have honestly bought those even if they are not as optically excellent as the S line lenses.

@kiryl6248

10 ай бұрын

People are not bothered that it's a Tamron, they are concerned that it costs 200-300 euros more. S-line 20mm and 14-30mm lenses are available for the same price.

@quikee9195

10 ай бұрын

​​@@coltoncyr2283Tamron just announced that they will release the 35-150 for Nikon Z .. so you're already wrong.

@coltoncyr2283

10 ай бұрын

@@quikee9195 lol ok Mr right. You pick one thing to disprove me. I'm happy Tamron can release a Z mount lens, but it would've been better for sales if they released the trinity, not a oddball as their first. So now Nikon won't bother matching it, however I bet they make a lens, along those lines, as a Non S. Nothing stopping them. New Nikron Lenses 😆 And hopefully it matches Nikkor AF. I have 2 Tamron F Mount lenses, that suck with AF on my Z6ii body. But the Z6ii in general has mediocre AF. Horrible indoors.

Christopher, are you practicing your "Halloween" voice, for this year's "Trick or Treat".

i love nikon

Do Tamron lenses have a full-functioning control ring that can be customized for the specific photo and video features of the Nikon? I guess no.

LOL. Chris has been watching the Alfred Hitchcock Hour re-runs 🙂 Another Nikon/Tamron? Tamron are doing something right.

Thank you, I was thinking of this lens right this morning. Is the min focusing distance the same at 17mm?

@christopherfrost

10 ай бұрын

Oooh...sorry, I can't remember!

People worry about it being the Tamron lens because presumably Nikon would’ve licensed the design from Tamron, locking Tamron out of the Z system (in that Tamron won’t be able to use the same lens design for a subsequent Tamron Z Mount release), while Nikon can mark up the lens. As a Canon shooter, I’d say this is a bit of a pick your poison situation. Nikon let’s you pay a markup for third party lenses badged as Nikon ones. Canon hasn’t and currently doesn’t allow third party lenses, with only rumours that they may allow them in the future. Realistically both are hostile, in a sense, to third party manufacturers. It was the case with Sony’s E Mount when it first started off too - most adapted EF lenses onto the early A7 bodies. So, pick your poison.

@jorgepinogarciadelasbayonas

10 ай бұрын

No. There are already some official autofocus lenses from Viltrox, Tamron and Sigma available for Z-Mount. You can't throw Nikon into the same bucket along with Canon. Also Nikon provides a lot more useful options in the midrange with S-Line quality lenses. At Canon it's either cheap quality, dark aperture or very expensive L glass. On Nikon you can even put any Sony E-Mount lens no matter if third-party ones with the ETZ21Pro adapter while keeping autofocus. Try this with Canon RF-Mount.

If I get a Z mount camera it will be either this or the 14-30. I think that one is sharper wide open, and the range appeals more to me. But this one is faster. And I have to admit that I like the 67mm filter thread on these Tamkors.

@jorgepinogarciadelasbayonas

10 ай бұрын

There is no right or wrong. It depends if you need constant f/4 or f/2.8 aperture for work.

@starbase218

10 ай бұрын

@@jorgepinogarciadelasbayonas For work I need neither. Photography isn’t my job. I mainly do it when I travel, and so I find myself gravitating towards “good enough for a variety of situations” solutions (as opposed to more optimized for a few cases).

Do we need to rebalance the gimbal in inner zoom lenses

I love Nikon but I wish they’d just sell these as Tamron lenses and without the extra $200 markup

@jorgepinogarciadelasbayonas

10 ай бұрын

There are customers which don't like to use third-party lenses because compatibility and support is not as good as the original ones. I can understand that decision from Nikon.

Okay so hear me out, Sigma ART 14-24mm 2.8 F mount VS this lens? I'm torn. I doubt I really really need the 3 extra mm at the bottom, i've just heard the sigma is really really good.

Why is everyone pressed about it being Tamron optics? Nikon has clearly designed their own unique external housing (which looks nicer and better built than Tamron's) and an extra point of control.

@Durio_zibethinus

10 ай бұрын

Better doesn't mean all of us need it. Although the main problem isn't an optic, but the price margin.

Yes, they are similar to Tamron, especially 28-75 But the height I had there was defective, it did not have the same sharpness across the image field and the service department in Russia refused to repair it for me or I was cut within the normal range. Naturally, I don’t have any trust in Tamron after such an attitude towards clients with more than 25 years of experience

This definitely feels like a tricky decision between this and the 14-30/4 for average users given the very similar price. Both are excellent compromises in their own right, but I feel like most people would have to carefully weigh what they use an ultra wide.

@DDenDeeen

10 ай бұрын

1430/4 is not a better choice, as the image didn’t fully covered the full frame.

@jorgepinogarciadelasbayonas

10 ай бұрын

It depends what you are doing. The 14-30 mm f/4 is good for landscape work where you stop down the lens to f/8 most of the time. For Indoor, Reportage or Astro the aperture of f/2.8 becomes more important.

@Gynra

10 ай бұрын

@@DDenDeeen The 14-30 mm f4 is definitely a full-frame lens. I have it, and unless one needs the extra stop, it's a better choice than the 17-28 because of the extra zoom range.

@mikh8l

9 ай бұрын

Yes indeed, I was in the market for UWA lens and had a really difficult time between the two. The 14-30 is certainly the superior to the 17-28 for landscape, but the 17-28 was more versatile for more type of photogrpahy that needs UWA. I picked the 17-28 because I will be using it 70% on street and maybe only 20% for landscape.

@psoon04286

8 ай бұрын

Don’t know about you guys, but all of the Z lenses with the ‘stow’ position on the zoom ring just drives me nuts when I’m caught off guard trying to take a shot in a hurry and I can’t because the lens is in the stowed position. This 17-28 checks all the boxes for me👍🙂

How is the damping on the control ring? The sony version is a bit loose and tetchy, which is my only real complaint.

@christopherfrost

10 ай бұрын

Quite nice and smooth really, it didn't feel loose to me (on my copy of the lens)

obviously, this is the equivalent tamron lens for a significantly higher price tag in a nikon shell.

@coltoncyr2283

10 ай бұрын

Nikron! ha

I have a question for who ever wants to answer it: For interior photography such as houses and yachts, would you get a 14-30mm f4 or 17-28mm f2.8?

I'm keeping my Z 14-30mm f4

Nikon paying extra $$$ to Tamron to brand 3rd party lenses, while photographers know it's a Tamron, is rich.

@jorgepinogarciadelasbayonas

10 ай бұрын

It doesn't matter for Nikon Z-Mount customers. Nikon offers a greater choice of lenses at different price targets compared to Canon.

Would you ever do micro four thirds?

@christopherfrost

10 ай бұрын

Hmmm. I wouldn't mind...but I'm just so busy testing everything else, and I really don't like the small size and aspect ratio of those sensors (personally)

@Durio_zibethinus

10 ай бұрын

​@@christopherfrostit will be blast if you do a micro four thirds review! Your channel will be called as the encyclopedia of lenses! I hope you consider that option, personally I'd overjoyed even though I'm not m43 owner. It's more like the sense of completion 😊

@william240

10 ай бұрын

@@christopherfrost i personally think you should try one day (if you haven't before) the high end stuff is relatively affordable and you get amazing video and ibis. Up to you though, don't want to force anything ;).

Can you please tell me what is the music playing at the end of the video?

@christopherfrost

10 ай бұрын

Olive Musique, Easy Math. It's not free-to-use, you have to pay for a license to use it in videos (the last time I checked, anyway)

@LikeOnFilm

10 ай бұрын

@@christopherfrost thanks!!!

@YoBroz-ix5rq

4 ай бұрын

@@christopherfrost wouldn't comment on the music if no one had asked but: video would have been much easier to follow without any music. It's disturbing.

Kind of wondering how this stacks up against the 14-30 side by side (at least through the common FLs and apertures). It does seem to follow the same general patter as the 14-30: not as sharp on the wide end, but sharpens up especially in the corners the more you zoom in.

@coltoncyr2283

10 ай бұрын

14-30 FTW, when comparing zooms. I think outdoors f4 is absolutely fine. Indoors, 2.8 is better but otherwise the S lens outperforms. If you do video or astro, get a prime for those and skip these

Interesting how all those Canon or Sony fanboys are trying to badmouth at Nikon. As if having more options and choices with different price targets suddenly becomes a bad thing? Do you think a regular customer really cares if the lens design was made by Tamron? No, doesn't matter. Actually customers prefer to buy Nikon lenses instead of third-party brands due to better lifelong firmware update support and full compatibility between all existing / upcoming cameras.

17-28 & 24-120 would be enough for me.

GOD Bless Christopher Frost !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Not a good range but we’ll see if its worth it

It's like Nikon looked at the Sigma 18-35f1.8 and thought it would be ok to just copy the zoom range without keeping the other benefits.

@dennist132

5 ай бұрын

The 18-35 is a crop sensor lens only. This covers full frame…

@budthecyborg4575

5 ай бұрын

@@dennist132 The Sigma 18-35 covers the full height of a full frame image out to a 1:1 aspect ratio and if you shoot 4:3 the black vignette is only peaking in the corners.

@dennist132

5 ай бұрын

@@budthecyborg4575 so not full frame. 😂

@budthecyborg4575

5 ай бұрын

@@dennist132 Better than full frame, 4:3 is the best aspect ratio.

@dennist132

5 ай бұрын

Sure let's pay $4K on a high megapixel camera and waste a chunk of the resolution on heavy vignette. LOL @@budthecyborg4575

How much! With plastic body? 😳

Hi❤, how are you 🎉🎉

different song plz

There's no doubt that this lens is clearly based around Tamrons own product for E mount. It's important to consider however that its not an absolute clone with a Z mount fitted. Optically its almost certainly identical to the Tamron but the addition of the control ring does mean that it offers Nikon users the option to customise its use over it simply being a standard focus ring. It's also important to understand that this lens bearing the " nikkor " name, should ensure that compatibility issues with future bodies/ firmware updates shouldnt occur. No OEM camera manufacturer is obliged to support 3rd party lenses. Given the price of Tamrons E mount version I'd still suggest that that " Nikon " tax is a tad too high. Priced at $750 might have been fairer.

Tamron reskin hehe

I don't understand what direction Nikon is heading by copying Tamron lenses and selling them in a higher price range. If you want to compete in that segment of the market you have to either deliver something that is significantly better compared to the competetion or sell at lower price range. Ideally both and this has none!

I bet Nikon makes a 45mm-150mm f2 -2.8, like the Tamr.....

@ArsenijeRadenovic

10 ай бұрын

Tamron is making 35-150 for z system this autumn.

@coltoncyr2283

10 ай бұрын

@@ArsenijeRadenovic if it's true, finally they will have the one advantage, but still rumors. Are they any pre productions out yet?

@quikee9195

10 ай бұрын

​@@coltoncyr2283Not rumors.. Tamron announced the development.

@ArsenijeRadenovic

10 ай бұрын

@@coltoncyr2283 I don't know about PP units. I guess they wouldn't post about it on the official pages if they are not serious about it. Honestly I am waiting for 180-600 for Z mount and I am thinking of getting back on DSLR for my event and wedding work. I don't like the mirrorless experience all that much (got mine two months ago....)

First

Tamron clone

too expensive and nothing to brag about. I love the G lenses with sigmas, tamrons, samyangs counterparts, these all new z mount lense are tastless and to clinical.

Overpriced Tamron. 200-300 € will go into the Nikon marketing manager's pocket. If someone wants this lens they'll just buy a Sony. And if someone wants a native lens, 20mm prime and 14-30mm lenses are far better.

@ArsenijeRadenovic

10 ай бұрын

I will get this lens instead of a sony. It is a good lens. You people are missing the point of this lens. It doesn't matter that it is 200$ cheaper for sony.

@kiryl6248

10 ай бұрын

​@@ArsenijeRadenovic We don't understand what the point of this lens is, because at this price there is simply no point - the zoom range is too narrow, 2.8 aperture is not so bright and sharpness in the corners is not great. For the same money, native 20mm and 14-30mm lenses are much better.

@ArsenijeRadenovic

10 ай бұрын

@@kiryl6248 Go into a very dark church on a wedding and you will find out that 2.8 is much better than f4. Lens is ultra lightweight comparing it to lets say 17-35 af-d lens. It is a solid lens, that has its use. Edit: How do you mean that 2.8 is not so bright? Did I miss a zoom with greater aperture ? + 17-28 goes on with 28-70 which are cheaper zooms for nikon. Which is a nice thing to have.

@opalyankaBG

10 ай бұрын

Narrow range? People were raving about the Tokina 11-16mm for years which has an even narrower range. I took some amazing shots with it back in the day.@@kiryl6248