Some things to think about that you didn't mention, that can help contextualize this issue. 1) The PDGA and DGPT/DGN are divided internally on this issue, from the board-level, to across the companies at many levels. 2) The PDGA recently renamed the FPO division from Female Professional Open to Woman (or Woman's) Pro Open and started changing a number of the pages on their site to take the focus away from "female" which is now relegated to a biological-based term referring to sex, and "woman/women" as a gender-based term. Their 2024 division list has Woman's Pro Open and Woman's Pro XX+ where XX is the age bracket. Female Jr divisions are also now Girl's divisions. You spent a lot of time in this video showing some of the antics and bad behavior of Nikko but next to nothing from Natalie. If people want to know why she's divisive, it's more than merely being transgender and playing disc golf. People watching this video, who aren't knowledgeable of this issue, would have no idea of some of the craziest things she's said and done since she broke onto public awareness in 2022.

@HARwinsOUTagain

2 ай бұрын

I’m in the middle of watching still. I wonder if the Natalie “burn it to the ground” line makes it in here.

@NickCarroll

2 ай бұрын

@@HARwinsOUTagain Nope. I'm not saying the content creator is picking a side, but he missed some things Natalie did in the last couple years.

@martinmartins7703

2 ай бұрын

Referring to men as "she" helped create this problem in the first place.

@TheRebduffy

2 ай бұрын

@@martinmartins7703 Yes. Little lies catch up.

@Butzy621

2 ай бұрын

Companies changing words doesn't mean they're accepting the changes they're being forced to make by their legal departments

A little disengenuous to go so into Nikko’s specific actions without really talking about the straight bullying Natalie’s been doing not only to him but to many of the FPO players. Many of the comments made since the beginning of this whole thing have been, if you read them objectively and honestly, just bullying.

@alexanderprovince3554

2 ай бұрын

Okay thank you, I knew I wasn’t the only one who felt like this was a bit slanted and leaving out important details

@stevenfarrell4839

2 ай бұрын

the bias in the video was off the charts

@ItsAllGood_

2 ай бұрын

Bullying while simultaneously playing the victim card

Nate Ryan is playing in the wrong division.

@jamesbyington4764

2 ай бұрын

You likely are too?

@busterschannel4794

2 ай бұрын

@@jamesbyington4764 no I'm a real man and not delusional Save women's sports and rights

@bisk1407

2 ай бұрын

You sound like you are like 60+

@markmcgarity

2 ай бұрын

@@bisk1407 wtf does age have to do with common sense?

@kydop6128

2 ай бұрын

@@jamesbyington4764 Natalie Ryan is doing a disservice to REAL WOMEN competing in dg and all sports

What a bias take to overshadow all the awful things Natalie has said and pinpoint everything bad about Nikko. Deceptive. Unsubscribe.

@timh8976

2 ай бұрын

Same here👎

@fishmanfish1525

2 ай бұрын

Please do tell what did the man girl say?

@sriousprobs477

2 ай бұрын

Nate7498.... Ryan is that you?

@Mr.Pants45

Ай бұрын

​@fishmanfish1525 that he would "burn down" the pdga if he didn't get his way and get to compete against females. Constantly calling anyone who has an issue with men playing in female divisions as "bigots, transphobes, hate-filled, evil bullies" etc.... if we call him a man, which he is, he considers that "denying his existense" meanwhile he'll say far worse things about and call others far worse names for simply disagreeing with him. The gaslighting and bullying from these so called "tolerant and inclusive" people is getting old. Glad people are finally waking up to the madness.

I used to dislike Nikko, but seeing him stand up for women like this gives me a new respect for him. #protectwomenssports.

@HansTheGeek

2 ай бұрын

Yes she is one of us!

@bengarvin

2 ай бұрын

I used to dislike Nikko, but now that I see him try and publicly shame and belittle someone for being themselve, I love him!

@boogiewoogie108

2 ай бұрын

@@bengarvin It's shaming to keep men away from beating real women? You are blind and a fool. Put your wife or daughter in a ring with a boxer or MMA who used to be a man. Seriously the world has gone MAD.

@markmcgarity

2 ай бұрын

@@HansTheGeek you haven't swallowed a gun barrel yet? do us all a favor...take ben garvin with you

@jgcalc

2 ай бұрын

@bengarvin just being themselves huh? So he's not playing against and beating real women? Huh 🤔

The solution starts with refusing to call him her. If men can play in women's sports then why are there women's sports at all?

@owenmcdonald5806

11 күн бұрын

Manchild with a feeble mind I see

Thats a man baby, yeah

Why do Trans athletes not compete in MPO? Also, this is not a political issue. It's a science issue. XY chromosomes = bigger bone structure, more muscles, etc.

@stevenfarrell4839

2 ай бұрын

because they won't make money in MPO

@tablo2112

2 ай бұрын

Men playing in women’s sports isn’t about identity and acceptance. It’s about taking advantage of legal loopholes that disenfranchise women for personal gain. We as disc golf fans should be outspoken about protecting females in women’s sports. Not just those who want to identify

@HansTheGeek

2 ай бұрын

It’s testosterone. With that in mind, read the rules.

@markmcgarity

2 ай бұрын

it's a man, keep that in mind..men play mpo, read the rules

@HansTheGeek

2 ай бұрын

@@markmcgarity You obviously didn’t and don’t intend to do so. Are you trying to be funny or something?

I support Nikko in this, never thought i would say that

I am now a Fan of Nikko..

@HansTheGeek

2 ай бұрын

Of cause you are.

@markmcgarity

2 ай бұрын

@@HansTheGeek be gone you no spelling troll DB

@StuffedBearSus

2 ай бұрын

@@HansTheGeeknice spelling Nathan

@Beepbeepoutoftheway

2 ай бұрын

Thanks for announcing that you're a bigot

@HansTheGeek

2 ай бұрын

@@StuffedBearSus Thank you 🥰

Why not talk about the FPO livestream on instagram last year and their actual thoughts? NR is an absolute CHEATER and why I stopped supporting the PDGA.

Love Nikko !!!!! And stop calling him a her. This is NOT a political stance, it’s common sense. Please don’t ruin DG.

@bengarvin

2 ай бұрын

Purposely misgending someone is lame. I hope you learn to love accept folks and act out of love more often. One can only hope!

@StuffedBearSus

2 ай бұрын

@@bengarvinuhhhh you’re misgendering that man by calling him a woman

@24kcchief

2 ай бұрын

​@bengarvin you look old enough to know better, but in case you don't, a chick with a dick is no chick

@markfranciscy4464

2 ай бұрын

@@bengarvinhe’s a he. Always has always will playing if ignorant doesn’t change anything but only showcases your stupidity and ignorance.

@joshuaholzmann854

2 ай бұрын

@stmn346 This discussion only works when we stop misgendering her. She is a women. You might not understand that, but it is really not complicated. That has nothing to do with politics. You can have every opinion on this topic. You can say that she shouldn't be allowed to play FPO and I also don't think that what Nikko is doing here is really that terrible. But why can't people just accept that she is a woman. Let people have their peace at least on this point. If she should play FPO is written on a whole other page.

I will never give a dime to the PDGA until they stop this lunacy of letting guys play in WOMANS League’s.

@Chillydall02

2 ай бұрын

You do realize the PDGA tried to not let him play in the FPO. He sued them and the PDGA doesn’t have enough money for a massive legal battle like that. They had no choice really

@jamesbyington4764

2 ай бұрын

Sounds like they have no case or can't find a honest Lawyer?

@markmcgarity

2 ай бұрын

they had a case and had to PAY for lawyers...nat's lawyers will work for free for publicity. the pdga needs to grow a set and change their rules AGAIN

Imagine how bad it must be if trying to keep men out of women's sports is a "political battle".

@LeonLJ

2 ай бұрын

It's ridiculous...

@aaronkcmo

2 ай бұрын

common sense is outlawed.

@HansTheGeek

2 ай бұрын

@@aaronkcmo It's just your common sense. Nobody cares...

@HansTheGeek

2 ай бұрын

What makes a man a man?

@aaronkcmo

2 ай бұрын

@@HansTheGeek nobody cares about what is right and just? the vast majority of disc golfers disagree with you

I support Niko's stance on the issue.

Just a heads up, the Nautilus is a sick midrange from Neptune discs

Not only is Natalie competing unfairly with actual women instead of trying to play in the open division, he has cost the PDGA a ton of money in legal fees. Money that could go toward bettering the sport. It's a purely selfish endeavor and should not be supported, no matter who it's from. As an am player, I know that by competing in tournaments, I'm losing money so open players can have better payouts. I'm fine with that because it grows the sport that I love. Natalie wants his way and is willing to damage the sport to get it.

@aaronkcmo

2 ай бұрын

they lost a ton of money in legal fees to the point where they had to give up or go insolvent. insolvency might be a better option in this case. they've also lost a ton of support from disc golfers. it's crazy how one narcistic, delusional fascist with a mountain of dirty money can bankrupt such a large organization. cultural marxism 101.

@ronjones-6977

2 ай бұрын

Am money does NOT go to pro payouts.

@bengarvin

2 ай бұрын

so selfish to fight bigotry! Natalie is approximately 483% braver than all the shallow keyboard-warrior asshats on here purposley misgendering her. ewe.

@pkjacobg

2 ай бұрын

@@ronjones-6977 I have been in tourneys where it does. Maybe it's not as standardized as I thought, but still. My playing in tournaments helps with the growth of the sport more than it helps me, even if it is just going toward the people who organize and run events, the PDGA or the courses I play.

@markmcgarity

2 ай бұрын

@@pkjacobg if you play tournaments where the am payout is diverted to the pros, you need to report the td. i've been playing for almost 40 years and never seen this happen

There is no such thing as Trans because nobody transitions from one sex to another..

@disabledmechanic5316

2 ай бұрын

yes thats why its called transgender sex and gender are different from one another, its just that they allign 99% of the time

It's obvious where you stand on this issue from the one sided shade thrown throughout this pathetic attempt to drag someone who doesn't agree with your ideological cult beliefs

I'm glad to see these comments went the total opposite of what (whoever this is) thought they would. 🤣 Nikko has one outburst= end of the world. Man pretends to be woman to play against women= Okey Dokey 👍

@martinmartins7703

2 ай бұрын

It's insane how many people defend a man bullying his way into competing with women when over 80% of FPO players said they didn't want to compete against him.

@fishmanfish1525

2 ай бұрын

Those of us who aren’t brainwashed agree with you. Ryan the male needs to stop and find a new game to play.

@markmcgarity

2 ай бұрын

@@fishmanfish1525 they would have to HAVE a brain to be brainwashed🤣

Nikko is what disc golf need can’t ever be against his passion and energy keep doing your thing.

These two men need to try to get along or just fist fight old school style

@budtron183

2 ай бұрын

Nikko would dog walk that circus act.

@dannysimpson9880

Ай бұрын

Yes please. Maybe the undercard of Tyson and Paul fight. 😂

@AtreyuHuxley

Ай бұрын

My $$$ on Nikko. Nathan gets smoked.

Your bias is showing

TEAM NIKKO!!! Don’t back down!!

I actually follow the FPO and wasn't aware that Ryan is trans.

Men are men and women are women, it doesn’t matter how much surgery you have.😊

The PDGA is a weak and useless organization, I quit upping my membership because of their terrible leadership.

Well we know whose side you’re on now lol

You left out the years nasty Nate played poorly on MPO

@martinmartins7703

2 ай бұрын

Logan played MPO at one point? I thought he went straight to bullying women.

@nunyabinezz8759

2 ай бұрын

@@martinmartins7703 you mean losing to women right?

@martinmartins7703

2 ай бұрын

@@nunyabinezz8759 still bullied his way on tour when the vast majority voted they didn't want to play against him.

I see Nate Ryan is tied for 1st at the Beaver State Fling and the DGPT has the comments turned off.. I wonder why?? Maybe because Nate Ryan is playing.. pretty sad stuff.. I can't see why anyone would support them

"of HIS disc golf career"

Letting men play with women absolutely not no more money from me.

@HansTheGeek

2 ай бұрын

Real man pay money to play with women.

@ronjones-6977

2 ай бұрын

@@HansTheGeek You wouldn't know a man if he did you from behind. Oh wait, that's what you like. Never mind.

@StuffedBearSus

2 ай бұрын

@@HansTheGeekhahhaa ok now I know you’re a troll hahaha nice

@markmcgarity

2 ай бұрын

@@HansTheGeek yes the real man(nat ryan) pays to play with women

Nate Ryan has a bigger Adam's apple than Nikko.

Just go to 2:50 secs in. That’s a males forearm and hairy too. I feel for the FPO players… :(

stop it with the Nikko hate. dude has issues, but no one else is trying to protect women. where have all the good men gone?

Nikko has common sense.

I have a gnome and love it for approach forehands when a harp is too fast

I could watch Nikko trying to look tough all day. Lol

anybody with a daughter would understand this is wrong no man should be competing with our daughters

Nikko is much more invested in the fpo division considering his gf Kat is also outspoken on the matter. But one man is positively affecting the fpo financially helping, and the other man is running from state to state with a box of matches just trying to “burn it all down”. I wish this analysis was a few more minutes in depth, and really focused in on both characters equally.

Good for Nikko. Take a stand against the delusional crap.

So if Barela transitioned to a woman, it would be ok for him to play in FPO. Come on

@HansTheGeek

2 ай бұрын

I would suggest to look up the rules for that scenario.

@aaronkcmo

2 ай бұрын

@@HansTheGeek it's pretty clear. Just wear a womanface costume for a while then demand that your delusion be accepted by everybody. that's how Ryan did it

@HansTheGeek

2 ай бұрын

@@aaronkcmo Thanks for making clear to everyone that you have no clue about the actual rules in place.

@ULTRAVISTA.

2 ай бұрын

BRO HE WOULD FUCCIN STOMP!!

@aaronkcmo

2 ай бұрын

@@ULTRAVISTA. 15x world champ

Also you need to check what you say about Nikko. There are a lot of players that act like that. He isn't special in any way. Anger is hard to deal with.

Nikko is 100% right. Big Nate has been stealing women's payouts for long enough.

Love me some crazy ass Nikko!!!

100% unsubscribed to the misogynist

KEEP THE MEN OUT OF THE WOMANS DIVISION. that means you RYAN. play with the guys or don't play at all. CHEAT

This sport needs Nikko.

Everyone has had their temper tantrums, their "blowout" holes, a terrible shot, double, triple, quad, snowman, bogey whatever. We all get frustrated, but the thing that happened at the European open was inexcusable! Standing up for the PWDGA is something the woman can or could do. There's incidences where girls in U.S. high schools that refuse to play against "born males". I hope they keep that trend through the centuries! God bless... 🙏

Love me or hate me, you watched and that's all you could do

How about you give a bigger back story on manly ryan before 2022 how about in 2016 or whenever nikko started his disc golf career what was ryan back that and which division would he be in then

Does this hurt the frisbee basket?

Way to go nikko! Gotta love that rude

No discussion about Ryan's threat of burning down Women's FPO DG, and taking money, qualification spots and possible endorsements from the lady's? That hurts women, and isn't that the 'gender' Ryan should want most to honor? A lot of time in this video was spent talking negatively about Nikko, it's apples and oranges. Nikko isn't trying to destroy disc golf. I now have found more respect for Nikko by him supporting women's DG.

What was Natalie record before 2022 ?

@budtron183

2 ай бұрын

2 Balls 1 Strike

@markmcgarity

2 ай бұрын

he won adv tournies and then "transitioned" to fpo to take cash from women

It takes balls to go against Nikko .

It’s a dude, playing the correct division

can we see nikkos texts before Cat turned 18?

@ULTRAVISTA.

2 ай бұрын

LOL yikes

@StuffedBearSus

2 ай бұрын

Yesss if we can see Nathan’s hot dog hahahah

@kingchuckfinley

2 ай бұрын

@@StuffedBearSussay what you mean

@brendansmith234

2 ай бұрын

Awfully brave of you to insinuate such a thing.

@StuffedBearSus

2 ай бұрын

@@kingchuckfinley Nathan has a dong

Handicap all players could play in unity and where they are short on players in divisions.players could still compete.

Also this a big w for niko. Good for him

Can I play from short tees because I identify with them in competition vs people that have to use long tees? Since when did feeling supercede logic? Sigh

@HansTheGeek

2 ай бұрын

It does't. Read the rules.

@d2indy

2 ай бұрын

@@HansTheGeek Hans is a short tee kind of guy.

@nate7498

2 ай бұрын

​@@HansTheGeekYou would have been the person supporting the current rules on slavery in the 1800s or the rules on women in the workplace in the 20s. It's called being a shallow thinker. You have 1 or 2 sets of talking points that you regurgitate over and over, then when anyone actually digs into the depth of the issue with logic, you have nothing more to say..or will probably start acting dramatic and throwing names and accusations at us now. It's ridiculous you can't propose that we need to find another solution. You keep saying, it's the rules!! Current "rules" don't dictate what's best. We're searching and evolving. There's a better solution we haven't found than letting men destroy records and achievements that women have spent decades and centuries striving to beat.

@markmcgarity

2 ай бұрын

@@nate7498 the dude is a DB troll, end of story...mute the moronic twatwaffle

@HansTheGeek

2 ай бұрын

@@nate7498 Speaking of shallow thinking: What makes you think i endorse the current ruling? Have fun 😘

Just a man...him not her. Hope Nikko makes a great comeback!

Wise word choice to call her Ryan and not Natalie.

@markmcgarity

2 ай бұрын

*him

Unsubscribe is a beautiful thing.

I think they need a match?

How do they cross paths? one is predictably bigoted; another was existing in a similar place and suffered the consequences. Nikko knows this will boost him as 75% of average disc golfers are surprisingly conservative given the sport at hand.

Time to buy some sacred discs

Time to give Neptune disc the Bud Light treatment

@BIZARBIES

2 ай бұрын

No body is buying those garbage discs.

Karl?

Nate Ryan could'nt hold Nikko's mini. FACTS. EFF THIS GARBAGE

Bring back public shaming, and common sense. Stop letting the vocal 2% loons on social media platforms speak for the rest.

Unsubscribed

Let’s go Nikko!

Just a video about 2 dudes beefn!!!!!! Always liked Nikko

One thing I'm going to correct you on. Transgender women competing in a female protected division is NOT Political. Not by a mile. It is a biological/livelihood issue. Women have a right to be bitter about an athlete who has a biological advantage over other born women. And to say they do not is honestly ignorant. Skill is another discussion and I can personally say, while I throw farther than most women I play against, I will not always beat them by any stretch. I'm a firm supporter of men/women's right to be transgender and have friends that are as well. But to say they are on even footing with biological females in a competitive field is simply not accurate. I don't have a good answer for what resolution should be done. Transgender divisions would A. result in non-competing as there would likely not be enough to allow the division to happen in the event. B. Segregate them further thus likely creating animosity and disinterest in their competitions (potentially). There is the Mixed Pro Open division when seems to be the consensus but again, they would be at a disadvantage there are well due to hormone therapy. It's a shitty situation all around.

The disc golf pro tour is not successful, here are a few reasons why: players, sponsored by disc manufacturers, make millions of dollars while tournaments, sponsored by the same manufacturers, pay out peanuts! It MUST be the other way around. Disc golf manufacturers don’t have professional courses that are designed for spectators and professional camera crews. Announcers never (rarely ever) mention the disc thrown or its specific weight. Announcers are not experts in announcing! Players carry too many discs. There must be a limit and discs must be weighed before each tour event. Baskets and tee pads vary from tournament to tournament. There must be a standard basket and tee pad. The adverts under the basket, those MUST PROMPTLY AND PERMANENTLY BE REMOVED!!! FLAGS ON TOP OF EVERY BASKET SHOULD BE MANDATORY! There are no (almost none) major outside sponsors of tournaments. These are some major problems. Before the tour can attract major sponsors (soft drinks, alcohol, automobile, jewelry, etc.) there must be viewership. In order to increase interest in the sport, pay outs must be much higher. Macbeth got 7 “million$”! That’s “70” 100,000$ payouts! That’s “1” player contract!!! Players need to “earn” their money by winning. Then they can eventually be sponsored by clothing, automobile, alcohol, soft drink etc, manufacturers or other outside sponsors. Viewers and fans of disc golf must demand that all these and more steps be taken to push our sport to the level it deserves to be at.

@lyndajones1133

2 ай бұрын

i also feel they could push to be on tv and not youtube, its been a bait and switch with watching tourneys online now behind paywall and delayed coverage - better live, and shoot for televised. they give us youtube quality ( something everyone knows is free) then ask for money to keep it going, while not adding value instead removing value. thats a bait and switch. if its so valuable pitch disc to the tv execs and peace lol

@Jesterian

2 ай бұрын

@@lyndajones1133 .. on "tv"? What is this, 1998?

@markmcgarity

2 ай бұрын

mcbeth got 10 mil and it's a mil a year..nice rant of bs

Good for Nikko speaking up. Count me as a fan

@HansTheGeek

2 ай бұрын

She is amazing!

@modgmodg6987

2 ай бұрын

NR is a man so there’s that. How do you look at NR and say oh yeah thats a woman? Thats a man baby. Clown World. Pdga/Dgpt ☠️.

@markmcgarity

2 ай бұрын

@@HansTheGeek nikko is a MAN, as your hero nat ryan is...delusional, ignorant troll db

@markmcgarity

2 ай бұрын

@@HansTheGeek don't you have some rooster to swallow? a boy to diddle?

@markmcgarity

2 ай бұрын

@@HansTheGeek nikko is a man as nat ryan is..not sure what you are besides a very sick, delusional individual

Who thinks he would chop off his junk if he wasn’t competing for money? He can’t win against men so he went the woman’s route

@sciguy3412

2 ай бұрын

Bro who thinks anyone would do that just to play professional women’s disc golf??

@bengarvin

2 ай бұрын

you, my friend, are an ass. No way around it.

@martinmartins7703

2 ай бұрын

He still has his twig and berries.

@markmcgarity

2 ай бұрын

@@martinmartins7703 that's a man baby, yea!

I like Nikko now. He's cooled out quite a bit. He is nowhere near being considered the least liked disc golf player anymore..

@HansTheGeek

2 ай бұрын

Yes Nikko is amazing! She is one of us!

@ronjones-6977

2 ай бұрын

@@HansTheGeek Whatever you say, HanTheGreek.

@markmcgarity

2 ай бұрын

@@ronjones-6977 ignore the troll, he feeds on people telling him that he is wrong and an idiot. like other .02% crazies, feelings are all that matters, not facts

@yourmagnumopus

2 ай бұрын

@@HansTheGeek wha?

@markmcgarity

2 ай бұрын

@@yourmagnumopus feed the ignorant troll

I think Natalie Ryan is secretly Hunter Thomas shaving his beard from Foundation Disc Golf 🤓🤘🏻

@martinmartins7703

2 ай бұрын

Hahahahahaha Natalie *is* big hunt! 😂

@ronjones-6977

2 ай бұрын

@@martinmartins7703 Yes! Yes, he is a BIG hUNT.

@Eaglemadhatter

2 ай бұрын

I was thinking Conner?

This is just an anti-Nikko video...wtf

I guess imma be throwing some sacred discs

1:41 one sad sad American there, pray they find god and heal

@JohnSmith-zx1bg

2 ай бұрын

I doubt he will, in fact Ryan appears to be doubling down on the lunacy.

@JohnSmith-zx1bg

2 ай бұрын

Not going to happen, Ryan will never see the truth.

Very one sided and slanted.

🫡

I am going to go buy one of Nikko's discs now. He gained a new fan.

not a her

Anyone answering honestly about the man playing against woman will be banned and called names. Why pass title 9 to then allow this ?

I’ve been seeing a lot of negative things in a sport that brings me happiness

Yo RM!! I love your videos, as well as your fantastic and captivating commentary. I just got five of the R.M. Disc Golf Whale Sacks!! Had to support you my guy! Keep putting out quality content and the community will be a better place!🎉

I would pay to see them have a boxing match

You don't have to take a side to see how biased this video was in it's treatment of the two parties. I guess I didn't realize it was an opinion piece.

The narrator here is clearly for biological males competing against women in the women's division. This narrator has failed to inform you the actual truth to the Trans situation with the pro tour. One major failure is the fact that 80 % of the women competing in the pro tour signed a petition to turn over the ruling that allowed Ryan to play. We won't even talk about all the support from the males in the pro tour. He then goes on to dog Nikko whom made a complete turn around and is really stepping it up to show support for the biological women protected divlsion. Outside of competing in the wrong division, I hope for the absolute best for Ryan.

Nicco is way better by a long mile. I’m going to buy one of his lavender discs

Nikko is a POS, from first hand experience, but someone needs to do something about this problem in the FPO division.

I feel like Niko has a bad reputation...so he's trying to do something good to fix his reputation. Kudos to him.

not a women

@markmcgarity

2 ай бұрын

not a scholar

Ryan took the beautiful growth of the sport from COVID and killed it.

Nikko needs to focus on himself, dude has no right to judge anyone.

For all of you that think Natalie should not be allowed to play FPO, I have a question. If a female transitions to a male, should they still be allowed to play FPO?

@JanisBebritis

2 ай бұрын

M in MPO stands for Mixed. It's not mandatory to be a man to play there and it's the most suited group for trans players

@jeffreyplord

2 ай бұрын

Not possible because of PEDs. A male cannot be a female & a female cannot be a male period. You can pretend, but that's what it is, pretending. If a female wants to pretend to be male & not take PEDs then play FPO, fine.

@hyzervalleydiscgolf

2 ай бұрын

*If a female pretends to be a male* she can stay in FPO, because no matter what gender dysphoria she has, it will still be a woman against other women. Besides if you put her in MPO she will get destroyed and never cash. Even if it was Kristin tattar, she wouldn’t stand a chance.

@hyzervalleydiscgolf

2 ай бұрын

But as long as they are allowing men to play in FPO then it should be held standard that a woman in FPO claims she’s a he. Then she should be forced into MPO.

@disabledmechanic5316

2 ай бұрын

artifically boosting testosterone is PEDs