I appreciated you running in step with the intro music. I’m stepping back from podium chasing for a bit to let others enjoy the medals 😉

Danke! ...for your most entertaining and informative reviews.... greetings from here, in the middle of the alps, Austria

@EDDBUD

9 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching and for the super support

Nice shoe edd just done 123rd marathon and my 20th road race but got say love these shoes 👟😁😁👍

Aww, too bad you' re not blown away by it. Was really excited for it. The 16 is one of my favorite daily trainers, nice and simple, not too high stack, well cushioned but not squishy...

@EDDBUD

9 ай бұрын

This isn’t a better shoe really. It’s a different shoe all together now

Man I am so in love with the Triumph 21 and the Deviate Nitro 2 I got this year. Also the Nimbus 25 for the controlled plushness. I was genuinely curious about this one, but I guess I am covered.

@laurainthehaute918

8 ай бұрын

Same thoughts. Puma D2 very nice.

@dhgpan

4 ай бұрын

@@DP-no1ny do you like them?

Hi from Turkiye. Just bought Vomero 16 40% off the price. I am a neutral, 3 days 5-6 km runner. I think it’s gonna serve me well for quite sone time. Btw, I like your channel a lot. Good job.

@EDDBUD

9 ай бұрын

They will serve you well

Looks like a great shoe, looking forward to the Zoom X foam. I know that the Zoom X in the Invincible Run is great, and I can only imagine how much better this shoe will feel underfoot. It comes out here in the States October 19.

@EDDBUD

9 ай бұрын

It’s ok I wouldn’t get your hopes up that much. Under the insole it feels solid

Great review. Was looking at this or the structure 25

@EDDBUD

9 ай бұрын

It’s a reasonable shoe but perhaps nothing to bowl anyone over

I was considering in leaving nike shoes due to their disapointing shoes. but this lifted my spirits 😃

@EDDBUD

9 ай бұрын

Yeah it’s a good effort. But many other better options

Thanks for the honest review. The Vomero sure has gone through quite a bit of changes over the years. I loved the Vomero 10 but never went back to it because it changed so much. Not sure if I will try this version.

@EDDBUD

9 ай бұрын

It’s an ok shoe though not all that standout.

@fredriksvard2603

3 ай бұрын

Vomero 2 was the goat

Was waiting for your review Mr Bud before purchasing will get the 16s in sale then instead!!!

@EDDBUD

9 ай бұрын

Better use of the earth credits

I’ve never been more nervous about a shoe sequel.

Seems ill wait for the crazy discounts for this shoe. However nice vest Edd ! Tracksmith. So fancy!

@EDDBUD

9 ай бұрын

Its a nice breathable number

@fabsterun

9 ай бұрын

@EDDBUD yeah I own 1 vest and 1 shirt.. of them and 2 collab versions with puma . They are just another level

I'm excited. Great to see the Vomero returning to the Pegasus-style. I absolutely loved the Vomero 14, which for me was what I would like the Pegasus to be. It was a better fit for me, and overall a really fun shoe, capable of doing almost everything from intervals to longer long runs. The Vomero 15 was terrible and I had to look elsewhere, but the 17 makes me want to try the Vomero for another spin.

@EDDBUD

7 ай бұрын

Certainly more of a daily type offering this time round

Big fan of this release as I was able to find the Vomero 16 for €61 online. Looking forward to trying them out after 280km in the Invincible 1’s they are about to be retired for something a bit more durable

Thanks, Edd.

@EDDBUD

9 ай бұрын

Very welcome

I had the vomero 16 in a size 9. Wasn't too impressed but picked up a 2nd pair and half sized down and they felt like a totally different shoe, for the better. Since then ive picked up another pair. Find them excellent for just about any type of run.

@EDDBUD

9 ай бұрын

The 16 was a really good shoe, the best of the nike daily stuff of recent times.

The new Pegasus 41 might be very similar in terms of combo of foams as this Vomero 17 ! I can't wait for the next ZoomX Pegasus 41 !

@EDDBUD

9 ай бұрын

It will lack the one thing that makes it Nike. The air unit

@runnerrunnerchickendinner

9 ай бұрын

Peg 41 will have reactX, not zoomX, for cushioning. Vomero 17 testing was done with and without the air unit, more people preferred without the air unit

@EDDBUD

8 ай бұрын

Thats a shame, its not really that standout now@@runnerrunnerchickendinner

Yay for me. Looks great

@EDDBUD

9 ай бұрын

It’s a really nice looking shoe

@QronoZ713

9 ай бұрын

@@EDDBUD Yeah, and by experience Nike shoes just tend to work really well for me. I've tried the new Structure 25 and the new Cushlon 3.0 feels way better for me than the older version that we had in the Peg 36s. I'm surprised you don't feel a big difference?

@EDDBUD

9 ай бұрын

@@QronoZ713 I don’t really feel much difference at all. Especially odd that react feels very similar to this

Great review Edd sounds like I’ll stick with novablast 3

@EDDBUD

9 ай бұрын

Lighter and more nimble

As someone who's used to the Pegasus - this was a no go for me (returned mine). I had Peg 35 and 39 is my current shoe.... but the Vomero was too cushiony for me. The cushion in the heel felt not only too much, but also seem to give the opposite effect of "bouncy" and rather made my put more effort into every stride. Which kinda makes sense when I think about it... as it's like your feet are running on cushion it would make it harder to do. Anyways, I decided to keep my money balance in the store and wait for the Pegasus 41.

These look really nice would love to try them but at the moment using Brooks Levitate 2 weighs 318 grams and are just a well made fantastic running show which for me is the best shoes i have ever owned but would give these a chance at some point in the future.

@EDDBUD

9 ай бұрын

It’s not a bad shoe. Just another foam shoe that’s in a market of many others

Considering all the years I had spent running in the Vomero I was shocked at how lifeless the 16’s felt underfoot. I kept thinking they just needed to be broken in but after 200 miles I gave up on them.

@EDDBUD

9 ай бұрын

I really liked the 16

@seegee1613

8 ай бұрын

16’s woof 🐶

Couldn't use the V16 with the hockey puck in the forefoot..the upper was OK and comfortable in cold weather and decent traction..the forefoot hockey puck is a deal breaker..

From your frank review I’m guessing you’d say stay with my current rotation (Velocity2 , Deviate2 and the fun ASICS Super Blast). Am I missing something? Appreciate your POV!👍🏻❤

@EDDBUD

8 ай бұрын

It’s an ok shoe. Just not all that stand out

well I'm loving the Nimbus 25 and SC Trainer v2 so that's a nay for me. thanks for the info 👍

@EDDBUD

9 ай бұрын

Those do similar things

Sounds okay but I'll pass on this one. Triumph 20, Novablast 3 and Velocity Nitro 2 plus many others on my shoe rack have me covered. And I do have the original Peg Turbo sitting there too!

Im in my 39 yr of running . in year 2 of the Alphafly as my daily shoe . Old school, find a product that works , have more than 1 .

@EDDBUD

7 ай бұрын

Glad they are hitting the spot. If it works grab as many as you can

Ive had 4 pairs of the 16 and I really like them but my main gripe about them is the air bubble would pop causing them to be unusable. I would get about 200-400 miles per pair. The new setup would probably last much longer

@EDDBUD

8 ай бұрын

Never had any air bubble issues. I’m enjoying this a bit more now they have broken in somewhat.

This shoe seems to be the hybrid of Pegasus 40 and invisible run 3. 😊

@EDDBUD

9 ай бұрын

Yeah middle of the road option for sure

Recently got the Vomero 16 with that £65 sportsdirect offer. Seems like most would be better getting a deal on the 16s rather than these.

@EDDBUD

9 ай бұрын

16 is a great shoe. Not sure this one brings a whole lot new to the table.

My vomero 17 weighs 267 grams US 8,5. The 16 in the same size weighs 283 grams!

I used to be a Nike fan, but it just feels like they are being left behind by other manufacturers. They seem to produce a lot of relatively heavy shoes with OK midsoles. Decent enough shoes, but just not as good as what is available from other companies.

@EDDBUD

9 ай бұрын

Not much innovation even with the alphafly

Good timing on this review since the 16 is heavily discounted. You prefer the 16 still I’m assuming ?

@EDDBUD

9 ай бұрын

Yes that’s a better shoe for daily stuff. This is now a niche longer run or steady shoe. The other one was a bit more versatile.

Do you think this would be a good easy day shoe for winter running(cold/snow/wet) ?11:47

@EDDBUD

9 ай бұрын

For snow? Maybe too breathable for that

What do you make of the 2 : 00: 35 Kiptum masterclass Mr. Ed, do we have a chance at sub 2hr in record eligible course..

@EDDBUD

9 ай бұрын

Quite sensational! Many did not expect such a performance.

Disappointing but I guess not unexpected given nikes recent releases in the non racing category. Just seems as though they're lagging behind which is weird because they have all of the resources and the technology which is clearly evident in the racing shoes

@EDDBUD

9 ай бұрын

All their efforts go into the race shoes sadly

How does this v17 compare with the previous v16 and how does it compare to the Nike infinity run 4?? Which would you recommend between the 3 mentioned?

@EDDBUD

6 ай бұрын

I preferred the Vomero 16 in almost all aspects. Though the 17 is ok. Just not quite as versatile as the 16

I have the Vomero 16

Thanks for reminding me about the flaming lips. A right last from the past. But making my journey home so much better ❤

@EDDBUD

9 ай бұрын

Been making albums consistently for ages now but the recent ones aren’t as popular

Have the 16 which is due to be replaced, hoped the 17 would be similar with a little improvement. Will see has anyone local have them to compare and see what else is good I guess

@EDDBUD

5 ай бұрын

I like them but they aren’t as fun as the 16

❤

@EDDBUD

9 ай бұрын

🥇

Hello from the Owl Club

Please compare it to Infinity Rn4? To me Vomero17 look like a walking jogging everyday shoe. I wonder how midsole softness is compared with Invincible run2?

@EDDBUD

9 ай бұрын

It’s not anything like the invincible. Don’t own the infinity and have no real want to buy that one

My nike V2 are finally coming to an end, and I am unable to find V2 s in store anymore. So what can I get to replace it. Always look forward to your reviews.

@EDDBUD

8 ай бұрын

The v2? Which shoe do you mean?

@trevorhillier4041

8 ай бұрын

@@EDDBUD hello , apologies I meant vapourfly 2. I got into a bad habit of using them as a daily shoe and my race shoe. So my next pair will only be for race only. As I have gel nimbus 25 which are OK for my daily shoe, for clocking up miles in comfort. Many thanks

Yoshimi and The Soft Bulletin were both great albums, and when I did have a 5.1 surround setup, I got a hold of them in their 5.1 mixes. As one would expect they did some really interesting things with the expanded soundstage.

@EDDBUD

9 ай бұрын

I do recall they had another one with 4 albums you had to play at once!

Cue the sad trombone sound effect.

Any shoe without a soft cushy forefoot is a definite no-go for me. Nike has been screwing around with the Vomero since version 10 .....and I ran in most of the versions from #1 through #9, plus #12. Too bad.

@EDDBUD

9 ай бұрын

It’s taken the Nike out of it now. Just another foam shoe

@stevestarr9769

9 ай бұрын

@@EDDBUD You're smarter than I look.😜

the sunglasses are the real ☆ of the video > p☆rn!👌

@EDDBUD

9 ай бұрын

They are great glasses. Never fail

You mentioned pegasus 35! Why do you think Nike will not make pegasus 35 turbo again?! It was fast!

@EDDBUD

8 ай бұрын

It was a great shoe but I think we would have seen a new one by now

Ed, how is it compared to Nimbus 25?? Which is more cushioned, but stable?? And overall feel wearing it???

@EDDBUD

8 ай бұрын

The nimbus is a better easy or recovery option. Stability wise the nimbus probably has the edge.

@Lee-mx5li

8 ай бұрын

@@EDDBUD Thanks

Was looking forward to this, even though I have more than enough shoes! Perhaps pass though. Was a big fan of the Vomero 14.

@EDDBUD

9 ай бұрын

I like the shoe. But it’s not a “must have”

Hey Ed - what do you think about springing for the Vomero 17 vs. the Novablast 3 at a very respectable $110?!?

@JS-xn3dq

8 ай бұрын

I wrote my question before I finished watching the entire review. I think I know the answer now.

@JS-xn3dq

8 ай бұрын

Gotta say, Nike seems to be blowing it these days with all the other offerings and foams from other companies these days. 🤷‍♂️

@EDDBUD

8 ай бұрын

I like this shoe more now but the nova is just so much lighter

How does this compare to Skecher's Run RIde 11?

@EDDBUD

8 ай бұрын

Sorry haven’t tried that shoe

The upper looks like my old Free Run 2016 or something 😂

It will be better if Nike swaps the Cushlon 3.0 with OG React or ReactX

@EDDBUD

9 ай бұрын

Yeah it seems a weird choice.

@AshtrayHDlate

7 ай бұрын

That would literally make it an Peg Turbo XL stack hight. We have the Tempo Next% for that. Vomero 17 was made to be a more stable Invincible 3, and that’s where it hit the nail on the head. I did have to re order half size up due to the toe box. (I’m a us11 in peg and most shoes, but sometimes 11.5. And it’s weird how peoples right foot is sometimes slightly longer than left foot 😂)

Nike shoes were OK at the time of Pegasus Turbo and first Vaporflys but now = KO. Only big heavy shoes… even the vaporfly3 are a total joke!

Do you think these shoes will hold up to a mixed road/trail ultra?

@EDDBUD

5 ай бұрын

Ok the outsole is pretty good in terms of coverage.

Any alternatives you can suggest? Thanks much

@EDDBUD

9 ай бұрын

Triumph from Saucony. Deviate nitro 2. If you want ZoomX go for the invincible

@lehitimo

9 ай бұрын

@@EDDBUD pass on the invincible… too soft for me. Ill try the saucony triumph, haven’t had that brand ever since but I do love the Puma Deviate Nitro 2. Probably the best outsole in the market today… Puma Grip

And now the question…. This Vomero 17 or Peg Turbo Next Nature?

@EDDBUD

9 ай бұрын

17. The other wasn’t good

@AshtrayHDlate

7 ай бұрын

@@EDDBUDI’m one of the odd one’s that loves the feel and look of the Turbo Next Nature. The recycled zoomx does need to be smashed in a bit to make them zoomx-ish soft. But for me, it is the best pegasus version (for dry weather). I got around 700km in them and a 2nd pair is still waiting till I reach 1000k 🎉 And comparing the foam softness vs the new pair, old pair is softer! But same stack hight still. Very foamy hah.

My mum loved the Vormero 13, but on her recent trip to visit us in America she bought the ASICS Gel Nimbus 25 to be her new daily trainer. There aren’t any Vormeros in the stores for her to try.

I don't understand why Nike delivered 3 different max cushioned trainers in the same year.

@EDDBUD

9 ай бұрын

Bizarre isn’t it!

I was🤞🏼that they would feel like the Pegasus 35 Turbo 😢

@iGo0gIe

9 ай бұрын

Almost double the stack unfortunately lol

@EDDBUD

9 ай бұрын

Yeah the sleek lower stack is gone!

Please compare to Nimbus 25 :-)

@EDDBUD

9 ай бұрын

Will do some in depth comparisons soon

Are this shoes feel kind of like Nike streakfly the plush

@EDDBUD

8 ай бұрын

Nothing like the streakfly sadly

Ney for me. Triumph 20 miles better shoe 😅

@EDDBUD

9 ай бұрын

🥉

16 looks a lot better IMO

@EDDBUD

9 ай бұрын

I like the profile. But it’s quite a different shoe now.

Any alternative to Vomero 17?

@EDDBUD

14 күн бұрын

Nothing quite like this one

So what is a 2024 equivalent of Peg Turbo?

@EDDBUD

Ай бұрын

There’s a new peg turbo coming v soon

Nike need a shake-up man. Just been falling short on their daily running shoes for a while. Been a big switcheroo from adidas.

@EDDBUD

9 ай бұрын

Yes they keep playing it safe

I’ll pass on this one. Thanks for the heads up.

It’s seems like a ZX81 and not a Commodore 64 or Spectrum. Other than the Vapourfly fly, Nike have lost the plot IMHO.

@EDDBUD

9 ай бұрын

Yes too much investment in race shoes

I wish Nike would lower the drop. 10mm is just too high for some of us.

@GriffRunning

5 ай бұрын

I most be weird. Drop has never bothered me in any shoe, low or high. My stride stays the same

Still no Lidl shoe????????

@EDDBUD

9 ай бұрын

Soonish maybe after the manchester half on sunday as i want to stay fit!

@Kanihide06

9 ай бұрын

@@EDDBUD understandable, I look forward to it

nay from me

@jennypenny7243

9 ай бұрын

Why? Any reason?

@thespecialone7632

9 ай бұрын

@@jennypenny7243 140 Earth credits are you freaking kidding me, I can get endorphin speed 3 for £103 or puma velocity nitro 2 for £50

Nike seems to be incapable of producing a daily trainer that does not weigh as much as an army boot. Sorry Nike, I have moved on. Will continue to purchase your racing shoes but that is it.

@EDDBUD

9 ай бұрын

They don’t weight that much. They just don’t stand out from the crowd

@richardrankin7488

9 ай бұрын

About 2 ounces more than the Saucony Triumph. Do a head to head between them. I was a long time wearer of the Vomero but the 16 finished that. A real brick. Running is supposed to be fun not a chore and every run in the 16 was a sentence.

@EDDBUD

9 ай бұрын

@@richardrankin7488 Found the complete opposite to you. Remember everyone is different.

Sigh. I don't think I've ever been impressed by any Nike since a pair of my trainers in the 90s fell apart. Never again, arseholes.

Nikes shoes get uglier with every release

@EDDBUD

9 ай бұрын

I like the profile of this one

Other than their race shoes I think Nike had a much better line up 5 years ago. I've had an idea for a film about a rhino loose in the city 🦏🏙

@EDDBUD

9 ай бұрын

“That looks like our flat” 🤣

@Stevenc1984

9 ай бұрын

@@EDDBUD 😂

Design is so bad f

@EDDBUD

6 ай бұрын

I like the design. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder