Doing God's work. No fancy camera work or tricks. Just someone being honest and direct.

@TimGrose

Жыл бұрын

Thanks and yes I find that the best way of testing the shoes.

I love how you're doing these reviews, really putting the waterproofing to the test! 👟💦 Very enjoyable to watch! 😊 Keep up the good work!

@TimGrose

Жыл бұрын

Thanks! Yeah was good fun doing this one but being a warm evening I often had to wait my turn while various dogs had a go. I was the only human to go through although of course both had bridges by the side so got a few funny looks :)

The most direct and proper testing of GTX footwear of all time! 💪

@TimGrose

Жыл бұрын

Ha ha thanks. Seems the best way.

Great review. Straight to the point and no unnecessary chat.

@TimGrose

Жыл бұрын

Many thanks. I like to try and stick to the point.

Perfect timing, thanks Tim, I think I’ll pick these up.

@TimGrose

Жыл бұрын

Yeah one of my better pickups of late for sure.

Good to hear your thoughts on these Tim. Sounds like some good updates overall. Solid testing method with the ford there too!

@TimGrose

Жыл бұрын

Thanks, yes a good update. Everywhere so dry at the moment so the fords best way could think to test a GORE-TEX shoe while actually running.

Greetings Tim, thank you for the informative review. I was on the fence but this video convinced me to pick up a pair of these, thank you again!!

@TimGrose

Жыл бұрын

Ah good. Been enjoying mine but fortunately it hasn't been so wet yet here in the UK that have needed to reach for them too often yet!

Thanks Tim. A refreshing review no pun intended.

@TimGrose

Жыл бұрын

Ha ha thanks. It was really warm that day when filmed this so yeah a certain amount of refreshment was welcome!

Thanks man! This was just what i needed to decide!

@TimGrose

Жыл бұрын

That's good to hear thanks.

Thank you for this review. They just be came available in the US near me, today. I gave them a go based on your review. I find them to be very comfortable, more so than the Pegasus 39 road shoe. I did not care for that Zoom unit as it always felt like I was stepping in gum, instead of something full of air. It was not present here and I feel as though it is a better ride being all React foam. The upper is great, and it rained here most of the day today, and these had no problem with traction, and my feet stayed completely dry. Great shoe that I look forward to putting a ton of miles in over the fall, and winter months. Thank you again for the review.

@TimGrose

Жыл бұрын

Good to hear. It still hasn't rained much here in the UK but like you will look forward to wearing these much more over the coming months as never it stays dry here for long!

Great review I'm a Mobile Valeter,, all i wanted to see was the waterproof test and you smashed it... Just bought 👏🏽💯 Thanks

@TimGrose

9 ай бұрын

Ah good. Hope they work out for you. I find need to try and avoid water seeping down my legs but whenever I have used them in constant rain they have kept the worst out for sure.

Top test Tim! Good to see those fords worked well for the test. I think that trail 4 GTX is a great looking shoe especially in the lighter grey and yellow colour way 👌

@TimGrose

Жыл бұрын

Yeah funny we were both at Shere on Saturday and started from the same cricket ground. I didn't see any crossing of fords in your half marathon race however :) Yeah I thought about the "bright" coloured Peg one and then thought I "need" a black shoe for one that will inevitably soon be taken through wet muddy terrain and the reflective laces arguably and oddly make it more visible than the "off white" one against car lights and stuff.

@sebaldc.2681

Жыл бұрын

@@TimGrose I ordered the pegasus 3 goretex just a few weeks ago, with a good discount, after watching your video. But to be really honoust ... i think they do look way better on (your) feet, than the new pegasus 4 trail react. I think the 3's fit better, if we just talk about looks here.

@TimGrose

Жыл бұрын

@@sebaldc.2681 yeah if we are purely talking about looks then maybe yes the 3 wins. However when it comes to the winter and I am trying to run through some wet and muddy patches the fact both are largely "black" is how I will see them when look down :) That's largely why I opted for the black colourway in both. I had a yellow/orange one in the 2 which neither stayed that colour when running or looked overly great to me when clean.

YESSSS!!! THIS IS HOW IT SHOULD BE DONE!!!! REAL TEST! I love it, and it really gave me a better understanding on "Water Resistant" capabilities.

@TimGrose

Жыл бұрын

Seems the best way! At least when I filmed this getting wet was actually quite nice :)

@tnazty

Жыл бұрын

@@TimGrose That's what she said....I had to do it.

Great,very detailed review!

@TimGrose

Жыл бұрын

Thanks! Are you thinking of getting a pair ?

Great review..Keep running !

@TimGrose

10 ай бұрын

Thanks, will do!

Tim! MadDope Review Bro and def grabbing a pair! ✌️

@TimGrose

Жыл бұрын

Thanks! Hope you like them.

Very informative video. I have been looking to get new shoes and this has been very helpful for me 👍

@TimGrose

Жыл бұрын

Ah good thanks. Certainly one I am going to be getting good use of over the winter I feel.

Brilliant review ( As usual) + the side by side comparison with the 3 version was v.helpful....I think the 3 is by far the better looking shoe.

@TimGrose

Жыл бұрын

Thanks! Do you have the 3? Interesting about the looks. Do you prefer the more all black nature of the 3 or maybe the folding in the upper in my 4 lessens the look of it. Anyway I am preferring the 4 so far to run in. It is even making for a nice slightly soft road shoe and even just "feels" lighter. I put them on tonight as it had started to rain but as soon as I started it stopped !

@carcajou7837

Жыл бұрын

@@TimGrose I have the 4 (non gore tex version womans version as love the colour way) & love them but want the 3 in all black for trail walks & such,Yea much prefer the all black look personally,They look more like a trail shoe than the 4's.Only thing puts me off is what I've heard about the lack of grip in wet conditions.

@PatTheRiot

Жыл бұрын

I got these because of the slim profile for more urban wet/snowy walking/driving and occasional rain run. They feel better than any running shoe I tried on. Reminds me of Salomons alot but much better sole. Aggressive enough for trail but they dont feel like ski boots when on flat surfaces lol

Very nice review sir! Great details. Doesn't seem to be available yet in the US but I'm certainly excited to get a pair when I can

@TimGrose

Жыл бұрын

Thanks! Yeah for some reason, the US often seem to be getting the new Nike releases last of late.

@wonkydonkey7899

Жыл бұрын

It’s available on other online merchants if you Google around. Not available on Nike’s US website yet for some reason.

now this is how you do a performance test. kudos

@TimGrose

29 күн бұрын

Thanks! Seemed to logical to test GORE-TEX shoes in the wet.

Good work ❤🎉

@TimGrose

9 ай бұрын

Thank you! 😊

Loving my pair so far. Only 2 weeks in.

@TimGrose

9 ай бұрын

Ah good. I am still using mine and did the other day when was very wet.

Thank you!

@TimGrose

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching. Are you thinking of getting some?

From Japan. Got them today, waiting to be delivered. I don’t go trail-running but gonna use it on a rainy day especially riding bicycle

@TimGrose

Жыл бұрын

Ah good. Yeah I think they would good for any activity you nearly wear trainers for but might be wet and you want try and stay dry. Only issue might be if water runs down your legs and seeps in that way but then you might be past caring anyway!

@user-oq5yr1kp1d

Жыл бұрын

@@TimGrose unfortunately or fortunately, It’s been raining everyday in Tokyo since I got the shoes and even a Typhoon is approaching from the south so I have plenty opportunity to test the shoes. The environment where I live is totally concrete jungle, middle of Tokyo, but it rains. And I’m satisfied with the shoes. I’ve been wearing them 3days in a row , my socks never got wet. And the good part I feel is… •Really light weight •Thin materials but it covers your feet really well •It’s a soft light texture around the heel but holds your whole heel great. • The new added stretchable texture around the achilles to ankle brings safety feelings for not getting the shoes off. The parts I don’t love •The sole is Little bit too leaning forward( high heels & low front) But that should be good for running I guess. •Sole is little too thick , that might strain your ankle. •Extremely Slippery on wet man hole But overall, water tight is enough for me and really comfortable. My rating will be 8/10

@TimGrose

Жыл бұрын

@@user-oq5yr1kp1d good to hear. It is obviously designed for running and proper bike shoes are way stiffer but if it keeps your feet dry and you can still get about fine then job done me thinks.

@Kimdongmin

Жыл бұрын

@@user-oq5yr1kp1d sankoni sasete itadakimasu. suberun desune.

@user-oq5yr1kp1d

Жыл бұрын

@@Kimdongmin inuno sanpo ni osusumedesu. Saikou dato omoimasu. tadashi… Jinkoubutsu(人工物)no ue wa suberimasu. manhoru, penki no konkurito. It’ll be great for stuff like walking a dog in a wet condition. It’s super light and soft. And if you’re using it in the city area, it’ll give perfect waterproof(almost overspeck) It does slip on artificial objects in the city like wet manhole, painted concrete, besides that, I recommend it walking around the streets. Less fatigue shoe to walk around. I do think it has no weak point in trail running.

Picked these shoes up today, I enjoyed the terra kiger and the wild horse but need one that will hold up to 50 miles+

@TimGrose

Жыл бұрын

Wow that is somewhat further than I go but I did manage a 50K in the first version of these which then was my longest ever run. Especially in the winter, the GORE-TEX always gives me more confidence in picking my way through wet and muddy sections.

hey tim, great video! was wondering how sizing on these were - generally i go half-size up since i have wider feet in nikes but it looks like the midfoot can accommodate varying foot widths

@TimGrose

Жыл бұрын

Same size in these for me as all my other Nike shoes but in a UK 13 no half size options. With trail shoes perhaps depends what thickness of socks you want to use. I would probably go with what you normally go for. Always think bit big is far better than bit small as during a run your feet tend to expand a bit anyway.

I actually just started the return process with Nike for my Pegasus Trail 3 GTX because for some reason they have lost their waterproofness, the last 2 times i wore them my feet were soaked. I purchased them in April so it's great that Nike is letting me return them. I initially wanted to just exchange them for another pair but they are out of stock in my size for all three colorways so I'm having them give me a refund on a gift card and will be purchasing the Trail 4s. Hopefully they are just as comfy as the Trail 3s although Nike skimping on some of the materials has me worried a bit about the durability, but i guess I'll see.

@TimGrose

Жыл бұрын

Ah that's disappointing. I just googled whether GORE-TEX degrades and certainly got the impression it should not happen that quickly. That said do you think water got in literally through the shoe or more because the top of your socks got wet?

@NonLegitNation2

Жыл бұрын

@@TimGrose The first time I summed it up to my socks getting wet. I was wearing shorts and it was downpouring all day and i work outside, so I figured that just like you said the top of my socks got wet and the water just slowly crept into the shoe through my socks. But yesterday I was wearing jeans and it wasn't raining as much as the first time, but there were a lot of deep puddles on the ground, the tops of my socks were dry but water still got into the shoes. After examining the shoes it looks like the glue may be coming undone towards the midfoot on each shoe. I am pulling and pushing a lot of weight around outside so it may be causing separation of the upper and midsole which could be causing water to get in.

Hi Tim! Thank you for the review. From the laces I can see that you have narrow feet, which is generally great for Nike shoes. Would it be possible for you to comment whether the toebox and the forefoot of this shoe is at least OK for wider feet? Thank you!

@TimGrose

Жыл бұрын

They would certainly be good for feet relatively wider than mine as I had to my pull them in a fair bit. That's pretty common for all my shoes however. My foot shape is relatively narrowest in the midfoot and I don't mind a bit more room in the toebox if can secure my midfoot. That is basically the case here. The length of them I found normal compared to my other Nike shoes so no worries there.

I recently picked up these shoes and I definitely like them better than the 3s. Im wondering if the water got into your shoe or did you get your socks wet above the shoe and the water wicked into the shoe . While there's no question that your feet would get wet if you just stood in water that was above the tops of your shoes I think they form a seal that will keep out most of the water in the scenario you had in this video if the socks were below the shoes

@TimGrose

Жыл бұрын

I think in this instance bit of both. Socks definitely got damp and certainly on the 2nd ford, the water level was well above my shoes. Of course “normally” I would have just used the bridge! But for general running in damp conditions they have done well. How are they doing for waterproofing for you ?

I like my Trail 4. My go to shoes for this whole winter. Did 200+ k in them. Mostly asphalt with and without snow. Only one thing about gore tex. After first gentle cleaning with a sponge and soap Gore tex stoped working until I add a layer of water repellent spray. It lasts a couple of runs and then you need to renew. And also it's not breathable. But for the price 75$ it's very balanced winter shoes for me.

@TimGrose

4 ай бұрын

Ah that’s interesting and a good workaround. Although they are a trail shoe I also find them OK on the road.

I’ve used all 4 versions of these for opening and closing pools and the 3’s lasted me a full season whereas the 2 only lasted half a season hopefully the 4’s are even more durable

@TimGrose

Жыл бұрын

Let’s hope so! Assume you have already picked up the 4 then? Which one do you like best? I always assumed the first one was what was called the Peg 36 Trail GORE-TEX at the time. It was the lightest of the 4 but think was Cushlon foam not React as in the subsequent ones. At least the 4 is comfortably lighter than the 2 and 3 which both enjoyed but always felt like they where both a lot of shoe as it were.

@jaretrogers8904

Жыл бұрын

@@TimGrose haven’t gotten them yet but pool closings are right around the corner so I should probably get them soon

@jaretrogers8904

Жыл бұрын

@@TimGrose the 3’s have been my favourite so far just based on durability

I have these, Walked in wet grass this morning and both feet getting wet still in good condition. Very comfortable to jog in though.

@TimGrose

9 ай бұрын

Yeah I used mine for a road run the other night in heavy rain and worked well but my socks were a bit damp but I think that is largely as the shoes can’t prevent the top of your socks getting wet and seeping down. Did think they kept the bulk of the water out from the upper of the shoe though. Imagine similar in grass as your legs likely to get wet unless it is very shortly mown grass.

@Clayton8319

9 ай бұрын

@@TimGrose it was short wet grass top of socks dry but both toe areas wet. On inspection of shoes at the front the sole is slightly tearing away from goretex tiny little holes. Water must be getting in. Disappointing because I don’t use them a lot I have lots of other trainers I rotate. I’ve spoke to Nike on chat and they are going to refund me on these so I’ll probably buy a new pair as they are very comfortable to jog in. Great review btw

@TimGrose

9 ай бұрын

@@Clayton8319 ah that is good and bad then. I have done about 100 miles in mine and seem ok in that regard. With no sign of a 5th version think will be using mine a lot more in the next few months now summer is nearly over.

Great Vid, Sir. Still wondering if I should purchase these pair, but seems fairly nive enough for my everyday shoes: walking with my sausage dog couple hours per day. Such regular peg 39s seem nice at first glance but I want something to wear nice in rainy or snowy day.

@TimGrose

Жыл бұрын

I think these GORE-TEX Pegs make great "all weather" walking shoes. When have been injured for running but could still do a walk off road was really helpful to have the confidence to walk through the wet bits as it were. The regular Pegs would be fine of course in dry weather but have started to notice those days are numbered in the UK where I am.

Thank you fo the video. It is very informative. I have a question and maybe you can help me. 3:26 I have a narrow feet too. Those will be my first real running shoes and I wonder - will this much of a toe room be a problem?

@TimGrose

Жыл бұрын

Should be fine. Most important thing is to get the right length for you. So, ideally in the type of socks you want to wear, to have a thumb width space at the top. You can then just use the laces to get the right lockdown for you.

Going by your other videos, this one should become your most popular ever:)

@TimGrose

Жыл бұрын

Yeah for some reason my Peg 3 GORE-TEX one continues to often get more views than even my latest ones - now at 56K views! Usually if I make 1K think is doing OK. It overtook the Peg 2 one as my most watched ever and still is in 2nd place. View counts so far suggest a non ZoomX shoe has little hype but for sure I like this Peg 4 one a lot more than the Zegama partly as when I go on trails I expect wet/muddy conditions and a want a shoe to cope with that. Then again my general idea of a "trail" run is something like an old railway path with a non Tarmac surface that is very runable but might well be wet/muddy. If it is dry normal road shoes (even a Vaporfly) normally fine and indeed often better as trail shoes just tend to be heavier.

@robin29991

Жыл бұрын

@@TimGrose Maybe just not alot of other Shoetubers covering the GTX shoes but clearly there is interest in them. I don't even own a single Trail shoe lol. But like you, running trails for me is really just a gravel path or very wide and flat forest. I just use my road shoes for everything.

@TimGrose

Жыл бұрын

@@robin29991 yeah there is always an element of finding a niche especially up against the now increasing number of "professional" ShoeTubers with quite a few a collection of reviewers not just one. Largely why I do the stats ones - well apart from being obviously interested in that stuff anyway. I think the Zegama is only the second "dry" trail shoe I have bought in recent years (other Terra Kiger 5). If I get into marathon training this winter a shoe like this Peg Trail 4 GORE-TEX should be good for long runs on old railways that don't have a Tarmac surface. One close by to me I use a lot but can get muddy in parts. I used the 1st version (aka Peg 36 Trail GORE-TEX) a lot for such but the 2 and 3 were just too "clunky" for cruising at a reasonable tempo but the 4 comes some way to reversing that. Or I take out a road shoe and it comes back "black" :)

@robin29991

Жыл бұрын

@@TimGrose Normalls I don' t care about getting we feet. But yeah, in the winter when doing long runs it can become very uncomfortable so these could be useful.

@TimGrose

Жыл бұрын

@@robin29991 worth considering for sure especially as I am finding I quite like them on the road so certainly would be good option for a road run on wet roads - something I used the Endorphin Speed 2 RUNSHIELD a lot for last winter and they feel great in the dry too. Annoying I have lost one shoe of my newer pair LOL! Was going to get another pair as saw them on discount but might just use these Pegs until see if a Speed 3 RUNSHIELD emerges.

I quite liked the Nike Pegasus Shield for wet weather. They are water repellant rather than waterproof, though i don't run through such streams. Found the Shields to be perfect for wet weather/wet-underfoot long runs, particularly when it gets cold and water would make things worse! Enough water repellency to keep your feet dry and warm, and lighter than the goretex version. May be more breathable too....

@TimGrose

Жыл бұрын

Yeah I picked up a pair of the Peg 38 Shield at discount last winter and had some decent rather wet road runs in them. I think the difference with this Peg Trail one that the waterproofing is a lot better and better off road of course whereas the Shield really is just a road shoe. I also have the Peg Turbo Shield from 2019 and that has a high top which was really good in the wet as covered much more area but pretty hopeless off road if was at all muddy. The Endorphin Speed 2 RUNSHIELD is a similar use case to the Peg 38 Shield but a lot lighter so always preferred that one.

@jbloggs4161

Жыл бұрын

Those shoes are very warm, i hope the release more

@TimGrose

Жыл бұрын

@@jbloggs4161 which shoes do you think are warm? At least it is now way cooler than when I filmed this video and only going to get cooler still so I am not too worried on that score for the GORE-TEX ones.

@jbloggs4161

Жыл бұрын

@@TimGrose sorry, the pegasus 38 shield I just got the goretex trail 3, looks great and seems more waterproof butthe shield is warmer imo

I plan to use these in the Canadian winter. Hopefully they keep my feet dry in the snow. Some user reviews are making me a bit worried.

@TimGrose

Жыл бұрын

It does not snow much here in the UK but this type of shoe has always been good when it has. I think how dry your feet will be largely depends on how challenging the conditions are and also whether you are covering up your legs and socks with water resistant materials. If you repeatedly put your feet in water or snow that is a lot deeper than the shoe then water may well seep in over the top.

@qstorm76

Жыл бұрын

@@TimGrose thanks for the feedback. Sounds like they will work for mostly ploughed streets with some powdered snow & slush. I won’t be in conditions like Rocky training in Siberia at least not that I know of yet. :-)

@overthecounterintel

Жыл бұрын

Consider the Saucony Peregrine GTX trails..

I wanted a shoe for general use such as running and train in the gym. This shoe is obviously good for running. But is it a good fit for going to the gym and weight lifting? Should I look for a different pair? I really like the design of this and the water proofing it has. What are ur thoughts Tim?

@TimGrose

Жыл бұрын

I have to admit to knowing very little about weight lifting but as a general purpose gym trainer with the benefit added of the water proofing for outside use then I think it would do the job fine. The outsole grip should be decent enough for lifting I would have thought. I think specialist lifting shoes tend to be a bit firmer, heavier and sturdier than running shoes but this one, being a trail shoe, is probably a decent compromise and that's always going to be the case if looking for a trainer to do lots of things in.

@ushalweerathunga7081

Жыл бұрын

@@TimGrose agreed man. U just cleared my doubt. I might buy this pair tomorrow. Thanks a bunch 😁👊🏾

If the water does not enter from the top of the shoes in regular rain or small lakes like the one you had to run into do the feets stay dry for just a regular walk on a rainy day or seeping the foot sometimes at the half of the shoe.?

@TimGrose

9 ай бұрын

Should be OK in that scenario but if it is raining hard and the "exposed" part of your socks are not covered and get very wet, your feet might then get wet. I usually find though that the shoes help to keep the worst of it out and if you are walking you can normally more easily avoid the deepest puddles and muddy bits than if you were running.

Thank you for this review Was wondering if you would use these shoes on dry trails when it’s not raining as well - as a “ regular” trail shoe Thanks

@TimGrose

Жыл бұрын

Yes sure. Excluding the GORE-TEX the shoe is basically the same as the standard Pegasus Trail 4 one.

@davidzlotnick1899

Жыл бұрын

@@TimGrose thank you ! I’m currently living in Middle East and rains quite a bit in winter but summer is HOT so was wondering if the GTX will be super hot in summer (and I would need another summer trail shoe ) or if you think it can work then as well Thanks again !

@TimGrose

Жыл бұрын

@@davidzlotnick1899 It was about 35 deg C when I did this video (which is very very hot for us in the UK) and certainly did not feel my feet got overly hot even on the runs I kept away from the fords!

@davidzlotnick1899

Жыл бұрын

@@TimGrose that’s hot here too ! Thanks again

I’ve got the 3 I don’t think I’d get the 4 going off how narrow they look at the toe end, I like how wide the 3 are.

@TimGrose

Жыл бұрын

I don't think there is much in it but you are probably right that the 3 is slightly roomier at the top. My feet are very narrow for my length so I had to pull in the laces a fair bit on both but are narrowest relatively in the midfoot and so having a bit of room in the toebox is welcome. Indeed I have now cut my laces on the 4 as had too much excess. So that might give the impression the shoes are narrower than they actually are. In a way having the 3 and 4 is handy. I feel the 4 is better as a road/trail hybrid whereas the 3 is possibly a little better as out and out trail shoe. The 4 is lighter and feels a bit more nimble as a result.

@davewinst1

Жыл бұрын

@@TimGrose thanks for the info they do look look more nimble to be fair, the 3 are a bit bulky,no doubt I will get the 4 as I love the gore tex branding aswell on them makes them look so useful

I have the 1st gen gortex of this shoe and im a fedex driver here in america and it rains alot here in oregon and these shoes have saved my feet from getting soaked they get a little wet but its better then getting soaked and now my 1st gens have met there end of the road because the front rubber started to come apart and it was letting a little bit more water come in. So now im going to buy these gen 4 and they look way better. Thanks for your review good video.

@TimGrose

Жыл бұрын

Good to hear. Yeah shoes don't last forever and you are right - whilst these sort of shoes might not always keep you 100% dry all the time they are a lot better than standard trainers which definitely will not keep you dry at any time! Think the 4th version would be good for driving as the outsole isn't too aggressive so still can feel some connection with the pedals as it were.

The best review I've seen about shoes in an honest way without false advertising. I will buy it. Thank you. Is it a little stable in the snow or is it slips quickly?

@TimGrose

10 ай бұрын

Thanks. It didn’t really snow much here in UK last winter but so hard to say for sure. Always think need to gauge the type of underfoot conditions when it snows. It would be my goto shoe if it does snow for sure.

@nomore3061

10 ай бұрын

@@TimGrose Thank you very much 😀

how do you think these shoes would hold up for a kart pusher? for the local supermarket. they have to stay outside during the rain sometimes..

@TimGrose

Жыл бұрын

Would have thought it would do well. Presume you would normally just wear "trainers" anyway so if you add the GORE-TEX and that I find it a reasonably comfortable shoe then it ought to keep the worst of the rain out. If say I was going for a walk in potentially wet conditions then this is what I would use.

Great review. I have a question. Do they all have the same interior (I know that the color can be different. But the blue color the quality of what you took out of the sneaker must be the same material. I'm asking because what I bought and it's not the same material. It's not blue silicone. Could it be an imitation?

@TimGrose

Жыл бұрын

I would have thought the interior should be the same yes regardless of colour. Always has been whenever bought another colourway of the same shoe.

@marinaperkovic8629

Жыл бұрын

@@TimGrose Thank you. I'm sure, too. But in the Nike store she says it was the second series production. The quality must be the same I say! Another thing I noticed, underneath that blue that you took out means in the sole where we put the leg the material is like plastic not rubber. It needs to be under rubber (rubber) In all pegasus is rubber not plastic

Ah the annual Pegasus dunking down the ford, this is one Seth could still do. Perhaps you can ask him to do a dunking shoeoff between the 3 and 4? Great shoe the trail 3, grip was useless and wore away like butter but lovely ride and protection

@TimGrose

Жыл бұрын

Ha ha yeah almost an annual tradition now if rather early this year although has just been raining here so going to give them a go. For what I want in a trail shoe especially a road to trail one, the 4 is better IMHO as just feels less chunky than before and more like a regular Pegasus. How many miles did you get in the 3 ?

@JiggerMachine

Жыл бұрын

Didn’t keep track last winter/spring, but likely a good 150 miles at least. Still goin’ strong (apart from lugs) will use it again this year. Podiatrist’s could use the 3’s lug wear pattern as a near instant gait analysis tool 😀

@TimGrose

Жыл бұрын

@@JiggerMachine Actually the lugs under my toes in the Zegama look about half worn down after only about 20 miles in them. The 4 outsole is more like a regular Pegasus so hopefully won't have the same problem or at least not as obviously so. I didn't manage to get that far in the 3 but that is largely as did not do much off road running last winter and also I mostly opted for the somewhat lighter Endorphin Speed RUNSHIELD if wanted some water protection anyway. The 4 I am already thinking will get more use out of.

Would these be good for snow tim ? Thanks from Canada 🇨🇦 mate

@TimGrose

Жыл бұрын

Think they would be ideal for snow. We don’t get much here in the UK but I have used one like this when we have had some.

Just got my 4th gen gortex for rainy days and could you give me some experience how the shoes would perform in the rain all day long?

@TimGrose

Жыл бұрын

That's a little tricky to say as rather depends where you put your feet, how wet it is and indeed if your socks get wet above the shoe. That said I think they are reasonably comfortable so hopefully will do well compared to other trainers.

what camera you used sir?

@TimGrose

Жыл бұрын

GoPro 10

I've been using the 3rd one for a year and looking for a new one. To my surprise the 4th one seems to be much smaller in size. I've already gone up a half size twice and have to send both back!! Unfortunately for me I need a size they don't even make (or not selling in my country, EU 48.0 or US 13.5). So now either I'm ordering two full sizes above my normal size or look for another brand...

@TimGrose

Жыл бұрын

Ah that’s odd as I haven’t taken anything other than a UK 13/US 14 in very many Nike shoes in recent years. So is it the length or width you are having problems with or both?

@peigen7151

Жыл бұрын

@@TimGrose Normally I have US 12/12.5 in most other brands like Asics. I used US 13 with the Trail 3, but the Trail 4 are too small on the length with that size. My big toe touches the inner wall at the front, even without even taking them out for a run! So now since there is no US 13.5 I just now ordered a pair of US 14.0. Hopefully they fit and don't feel too big.

@TimGrose

Жыл бұрын

@@peigen7151 yeah it is a bit annoying there is no half sizes options for us larger footed runners. Then sometimes I have nothing at all large enough in brands other than Nike. I am UK 13/US 14 in Nike. I actually find ASICS sizing the "worst" for variability. I have had a UK 12/US 13 in some models that were "OK" but in another model in that size could not really get my foot in and that was the biggest! Maybe the Trail 3 has a slightly wider toe box? My feet are so narrow for my length that I can probably get away with small variances in the toe box. I would say I can get a tighter lockdown in the 4 than the 3 which might be a factor. I always wear thin socks and that was partly historical to get the most "length" out of any shoe when bigger ones were either non existent or then too wide for me.

Having trouble picking the right size... US9 is snug, but the upper presses against my big toe. US9.5 provides roomy toe box, but rather loose around midfoot.

@TimGrose

Жыл бұрын

Subsequent to this, I pulled in the laces more to get them tighter around the mid foot and indeed so much that I cut the ends of the laces as otherwise they were then far too long. I think in a trail shoe where you are potentially going up and down a lot you don't want them too short so if you can pull them in more, I would certainly go with the larger size.

@marcoc2706

Жыл бұрын

@@TimGrose Thanks for the fast reply! I tried on both sizes in the house for a couple hours this afternoon. Did tighten the laces on the US9.5 pair similar to the degree you had in the video, but it still felt a bit loose and the folding created a spot rubbing against the top of my right foot. I ended up going out with the US9 pair for a walk & run session. It snowed a little the last 2 days so it's a good opportunity to test the Gore-Tex in the slush. Unfortunately the shoe failed the test. The tip of my toes got wet after just 2k in the park (not even a lot of slush, the most was no deeper than the height of the midsole)! I thought this could be caused by condensation somehow. But all the other parts of my feet were perfectly dry... Well, Nike website does have quite a few reviews talking about waterproof issue. I guess the pair I received are also lemons...

Hello mate, I am planning to use these shoes as normal winter shoes. If I am not running like crazy and walking normally, will it work in terms of keeping warm? The city I live in is -10 C° in winter.

@TimGrose

8 ай бұрын

I guess keeping dry in such temperatures is the first thing you want so should be good there. Otherwise they should be at least as good as any other running trainers and perhaps a bit better as the upper is of course GORE-TEX and not an obviously breathable mesh material that most running trainers are.

@sekk6851

8 ай бұрын

@@TimGrose Thankss for answer. Will my feet stay warm in cold weather like -10 C°, -15 C°?

I had the Gen 3 before and I got the Gen 4 today, the Gen 4 shoe feels better, more true to size (Gen 3 is a bit small), and lighter. But: I just cannot stand those big GORE TEX letters so will send the shoes back and hope for a new version with more subtle gore tex logos. Is just fine if you only use the shoes for running in the forest, but I use them mostly for city walks

@TimGrose

10 ай бұрын

Largely why I went for the black in both v3 and v4 as when I am running in the forest etc etc am not seeing too much down below. Definitely bit lighter for me in the v4 which is always welcome especially as I am a UK 13 and they often can be very heavy. As I recall I did this video almost a year ago but we haven't yet seen a regular v5 and normally you get the regular one before the GORE-TEX version.

@mattiaslindstrom8798

10 ай бұрын

yeah, it will take while before the v5 comes out, when the fall comes i will take my Pegasus Shields on and hope for a new GTX without big gore tex logos @@TimGrose

I could use this for walking my 3 strong Dogs they really pull strong! And some occasional RAIN where I live.

@TimGrose

Жыл бұрын

Yeah I don’t see why not.

Excelente prueba, has probado si no resbalan en asfalto mojado? Un saludo desde España, si quieres calor ven a Valencia, jejeje.

@TimGrose

11 ай бұрын

Hi, using Google Translate, think you said "Excellent test, have you tried if you don't slip on wet asphalt? A greeting from Spain, if you want heat come to Valencia, fast." In answer then yes I have used these several times on the road when it has been raining throughout and did fine. I would say I usually am just more cautious anyway when it is wet especially cornering.

@JoseLopez-vt8kd

11 ай бұрын

@@TimGrose Muchas gracias por la respuesta. Quería saber lo de ese tipo de uso. Porque las voy a utilizar como calzado casual por la ciudad en días de lluvia, además de mis salidas por el bosque.

I'm planning to buy this, I won't go running in them. They'll be my everyday shoe like walking and driving etc You think they will be good. I'm buying it because I like the way they look Thanks

@TimGrose

Жыл бұрын

Definitely be good for walking as you can largely take them anywhere in any weather. The stack isn't as high as in some running shoes these days and the lugs are on the outsole aren't too aggressive so would be OK for driving and I have done a bit in them. Out of choice though I don't drive too far in any of my running shoes and prefer more of a "normal" trainer that is a bit firmer. At the moment that is mainly the Nike Wearallday which I do find lives up to its name.

hello, I will buy the light color of this shoe, but I read a comment saying that gore-tex shoes are not easy to clean and the dirt gets on them. Is this true?

@TimGrose

Жыл бұрын

Well of all the running shoes I have, I find GORE-TEX ones the easiest to clean as the water/mud is designed to stay on the top of the upper not seep into it as in ones with a mesh. If you come back from a wet run they are largely "clean" anyway and just need to fully dry of. Of course if you don't clean shoes shortly after a very muddy run, going to take longer to get it all off. One advantage of a black shoe is that I don't feel that I need to clean them very often.

Tim PegTrail4GTX vs Zegama? Which one is softer and grippier? Hope Nike will release ZegamaGTX in October...

@TimGrose

Жыл бұрын

In hindsight, perhaps have said more on the comparison but think serve somewhat different use cases. In my UK 13 the Peg Trail 4 GORE-TEX is 30g lighter and noticeably too. Other than the obvious waterproof difference, I think fundamentally the Peg is a road to trail shoe for wet/muddy conditions whereas the Zegama is a trail shoe for largely dry conditions that is passable on the roads. The outsole of the Peg isn't overly thick and even on the road you don't notice it too much and feels a bit like a road Pegasus but without the air bags so has a certain amount of ground feel whilst still being nicely cushioned without being excessively soft. Despite the ZoomX, the Zegama isn't anything like say an Invincible for softness but probably does feel slightly softer but just a lot more shoe and outsole too. For me who wants to actually "run" offroad, not for hours on end and not say clamper over rocky, technical terrain the Peg just feels such a better bet.

@tomek7000tj

Жыл бұрын

@@TimGrose thnx mate, hm. And for more tehnical winter snow mud trails? Can Zegama be compared similar or replacement for Wildhorse7 or PegTrail3GTX? But slightly softer Zegama then them. In 2022.only Wildhorse7 did not get update to Wildhorse8, so it seems Nike discontinued Wildhorse series and replace it with new Zegama series...

@TimGrose

Жыл бұрын

@@tomek7000tj I never have had a Wildhorse so hard to comment. My impression is that it is meant to be more of a dedicated easy day trail shoe than one you might also want to use on the road a bit so it never really appealed to me. I think GORE-TEX shoes are ideal in the snow as ones without it will just get wet very quickly and obviously your feet are going to get cold.

Do the gaiters stop water from entering the show from the ankle area?

@TimGrose

Жыл бұрын

I think they certainly help because I found it absorbed some of the water that came down my legs when was doing these tests.

First!!! Yesssss

@TimGrose

Жыл бұрын

Yes!

Has anyone used these for a Spartan Race? I have a 21k Spartan Race coming up and need a good shoe for it. My feet feel great in Pegasus so I know the comfort is there, but I’m curious about the utility

@TimGrose

Жыл бұрын

I don't have any direct experience of Spartan Races but the conditions sound like they involve running through thick mud with lots of fairly deep water so imagine whatever you wear going to get feet soaked straight away. As such probably going to want a trail type shoe that drains well. So not sure how well this would drain in such conditions as GORE-TEX shoes by their nature aren't designed to easily let water in but, if they do, not so easy to come out. But if there isn't too much water they may well work well. When I went through the second and deeper ford for this video a bit of water did creep in but more just made my socks damp so was fine to run on.

Are they comfortable I got bad heals I’m a heal striker if not what would you recommend?

@TimGrose

Жыл бұрын

Yeah I would say they are pretty comfortable. A slightly soft feeling and as the outsole isn’t as rugged as some trail shoes then good on the road too. Don’t see why heel striking would be a problem here either.

What’s the grip like? Found can be slippy sometimes on normal surfaces

@TimGrose

2 ай бұрын

No particular problems for me. It is more of a road trail hybrid shoe however so the lugs aren’t too deep. As such might not be the best choice if looking for the most grip off road.

Thinking of getting the white pair. Will they just be ruined if running through mud? Or can you just hose them down?!

@TimGrose

Жыл бұрын

The GORE-TEX is certainly easy to wipe clean but I tend to go for black in these sort of shoes as black is still black! So think you will be OK but might get a little stained over time.

@stewarthyde-um7xl

Жыл бұрын

@@TimGrose thanks Tim! Keep up the good work

That's some hard core testing!! 😅 I've seen reviews from people complaining about getting feet wet though. I don't get it.

@TimGrose

6 ай бұрын

Guess it depends how the water is coming in. Say it is raining and water falls down your legs then it is not a complete seal. Similarly, as I showed here, if the water depth is above your shoes then again your lower legs and socks are going to get soaked especialliy if you "plough through" and create lots of splashing then inevitably your feet will get wet. What I have found is even if my feet get slightly wet there is never near as much coming in as there would be with non GORE-TEX shoes. And of course normally I would just use the bridge over fords :)

Would you say these are smaller than the trail 3 ones? Or wider?

@TimGrose

Жыл бұрын

Not much in it for me. My normal Nike size is fine in both.

Hey guys, I need your help. Is this shoe suitable for daily use? Like I would wear them 4-8hours a day (hangout, school, shopping etc.), and I go for runs 3-5 times a week. Not in trails tho, mostly a city run. I'm asking because I really do like the design and the colors, and I'll would love to get a pair. Thank you

@TimGrose

Жыл бұрын

You certainly could do IMHO. Of course if you wear a running shoe all day then it will wear down the cushioning quicker than otherwise but at least you would always be ready to run as it were.

@Airsshu

Жыл бұрын

@Tim Grose Nice, I appreciate your reply

Gore tex has 2 systems. One is the old type where there is like a sock sawn in the shoe and one where its part of the lining.. This is lighter. Water will not penetrate it! but it does not let much sweat out. We do sweat allot in your feet even in the cold. This is a problem with Gore Tex. You need to balance the heat creation with the isolation materials etc.. Or you will get very wet feet from the sweat (sauna) or very cold feet from the freezing temperatures.. It is an amazing invention but it has its limitations. In hot weather its a nightmare..

@TimGrose

Жыл бұрын

My first run in this one was last week when did an about an hour on a rather warm evening in bone dry conditions. I was pleasantly surprised that without getting the shoe wet at all, I felt my feet got no less "hot" in this compared to a standard road shoe. Remember some of the GORE-TEX shoes got many years ago had an almost unbendable upper and so were almost rigid. The upper on this feels really thin and flexible and so was actually surprised it still keep the water out as long as the water level was not so deep that it went completely over my shoes and down my legs as it were.

@i.p2088

Жыл бұрын

@@TimGrose definitely the new Goretex construction 👍🏻

@TimGrose

Жыл бұрын

@@i.p2088 yeah must be. I wore them again tonight as rain was in the air and certainly don't I think my feet overheated.

👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

@TimGrose

Жыл бұрын

Thanks !

too sad that Pegasus Trail 4 Gore Tex has not yet on the market in Taiwan.

@TimGrose

Жыл бұрын

Ah that’s a shame. Hope won’t be long for you. It is getting wet here again and been useful to wear mine. Nike do still seem to be actively selling the 3rd version here in the UK so maybe are trying to clear that inventory.

I wanna see you test out mkbhd new shoes

@TimGrose

7 ай бұрын

Had to look up what they are. Don't seem like GORE-TEX running shoes designed to wade through fords :)

@mohammedfaiisal

7 ай бұрын

@@TimGrose I'd still love to see you do a video. May not be gore tex but I'd love to see you review them Also, what shoes would you recommend are the best waterproof protection? I've been looking for a while but can't find the right ones that are both durable for long lasting and best waterproof protection for heavy rain

Are they suitable for runs in the winter period?

@TimGrose

Жыл бұрын

Yes that there is primary use case for me. I just got them back in the summer when I filmed this.

Do these have enough ventilation for long summer hikes

@TimGrose

Жыл бұрын

They were fine for me on a hot day last summer for about an hour run. I think though that the general idea of this GORE-TEX edition of the regular Pegasus Trail 4 is it that is a weatherised version for wet/muddy conditions which is more likely in the winter. If what you are intending is likely to be mainly dry conditions then the regular one ought to be a little better fit for purpose.

Problem is that once they do get wet, the water doesn't flow out as well with 'normal' Peg's.

@TimGrose

5 ай бұрын

Yeah know what you mean. That said I feel that the GORE-TEX allows my feet to stay drier much longer and more freedom where place my feet. Normal uppers often get drenched straight away in winter and/or if really wet. A few times if had to do some “wading” have just taken them off and tipped out the excess water.

I read some reviews saying that this NikeTrail 4 Gore-Tex is not really waterproof is that true?

@TimGrose

Жыл бұрын

I think with those sort of reviews you need to understand the nature of the test and indeed the limitations of this sort of shoe in that regard. As you may have seen when I stood in water that does not go over the top of the shoes then no water got in. However if say I was literally to pour water down my legs then chances are that some water will get in as there is not a complete seal that way. When I ran through the shallower ford for this video, I thought the water proofing worked well. However, when I tried the deeper one with a water level somewhat higher than the shoe itself plus a lot more splashing than inevitably the top of my socks got wet and a bit of water seeped in. In "normal" shoes either test would have left me totally sodden feet straight away.

@fearnobodyandtrustnoone

Жыл бұрын

@@TimGrose Good answer and that's enough to convince me to try it out.

@TimGrose

Жыл бұрын

@@fearnobodyandtrustnoone yeah for me these shoes allow me to venture into places that I just would not do in "normal" shoes especially in the winter. I expect to get a little wet and muddy whatever but if they keep out the worse of it so much the better. One time it rained so hard when I had a previous version on that yeah water got in but I was so wet anyway I was past caring and just ran back to where had parked as quickly as I could! If had stopped raining and I had a way to go, I may well just have taken them off and poured out any water in them.

I plan on getting these for work, how well do you think they would hold up to the mist of a power washer

@TimGrose

Жыл бұрын

Should be better than a “normal” shoe I would have thought.

Are these stacked foam on a carbon plate?

@TimGrose

Жыл бұрын

No carbon plate in this one.

Would these be good for treadmill I do about 3-5 k x4 times a week

@TimGrose

Жыл бұрын

Sure you could use them on the treadmill but if just for that a regular Pegasus might be better.

Bought these today 👌 10% off £130 from Nike

@TimGrose

Жыл бұрын

Ah good - always help to get a discount.

@NiiickTheGreek

Жыл бұрын

@@TimGrose Very true 👌👌

Which one would you recommend either trail 3 gortex or 4 gortex?

@TimGrose

Жыл бұрын

For me for running the 4 no contest. Somewhat lighter and better as a road to trail option as slightly softer feel. Some may say the 3 looks better and it is fine to run in.

@colin6711

Жыл бұрын

@@TimGrose in terms of durability and longevity too which one is better?

@TimGrose

Жыл бұрын

@@colin6711 that’s hard to be sure as not run in either enough to be sure but hard to see one being better than the other here.

@colin6711

Жыл бұрын

@@TimGrose thanks again🙌

can i actually use this just for road running instead of trail?

@TimGrose

Жыл бұрын

Yeah sure. I have done quite a lot of road running in mine. I do think they are a good road/trail hybrid.

No me cabe duda de que son un zapatillon pero es una lastima que a mi mo me furan nien porque me havian una ampolla en ambos pies en la zona del arco hacia delante y las tuve que vender

@TimGrose

6 ай бұрын

Using Google Translate I think you said they gave you blisters. That's a shame. Not an issue I personally have had.

Did you notice if these shoes ran smaller than usual?

@TimGrose

Жыл бұрын

They are as normal for me so I had my normal Nike size with no issues.

@MrATC35

Жыл бұрын

@@TimGrose Thanks and great review!!!

Are they durable for everyday wear at work?

@TimGrose

Жыл бұрын

That's hard for me to say for sure as I only wear them for running but don't see why they wouldn't fine for that.

@colin6711

Жыл бұрын

@@TimGrose i see. Thanks anyway. I'm looking for smth that I can wear daily at work and I do have to stand for long hours and sometimes also walk. I'm also considering like vans old skool or puma suede classic.

@TimGrose

Жыл бұрын

@@colin6711 the foam is reasonably soft in this one so that should “help” over old school “trainers”. I have a pair of Nike Wearallday for general use which are relatively cheap. In fact standing up in them now and has a soft without being too soft feeling as well. Not waterproof of course.

Sizce 4 mevsim kullanılabilir mi?CEVABİNİZİ BEKLİYORUM

@TimGrose

2 ай бұрын

Yes definitely. Whenever it is wet I tend to use them.

@ardasahin1170

2 ай бұрын

Tozluk kısmı sıkıp rahatsız ediyormu?

Наконец то повыше версию сделали. А то через галеностоп все время ноги промокают на нпт3

@TimGrose

Жыл бұрын

Hi. I think you are saying the 4 has a higher gaiter than the 3 so will help to keep water out. I agree.

@user-zw3yf3ch7z

Жыл бұрын

@@TimGrose kzread.info/dash/bejne/iIyr2I96psLaaJc.html this is what i expected in npt4

@user-zw3yf3ch7z

Жыл бұрын

@@TimGrose спасибо за обзор👌

That's a bit disappointing given gore tex is supposed to be fully waterproof, especially this comes with a black diamond sign! A wet sock means it's not waterproof :(

@TimGrose

Жыл бұрын

Ah but it's only waterproof at a water level lower than the shoe and the second ford I went through was well above that and I did so quite fast so there was a lot of splashing too. As such the "exposed" bit of sock would have got wet and seeped down a bit anyway. I found previously with these GORE-TEX shoes that with more normal running in wet conditions (i.e. not ploughing straight through the biggest bit of water can find) that they keep your feet dry a lot longer than otherwise.

Does it work in proper rain ?

@TimGrose

2 ай бұрын

Depends what you mean by "work". They certainly make running in actual heavy rain a lot more comfortable than "normal" shoes. However the usual problem with these sort of shoes is water running down you legs and then your socks will get a bit as the shoes don't cover them. But certainly if you are looking for a running shoe that helps in the rain this is it.

@thoughtfulsd

2 ай бұрын

@@TimGrose the same problem will also exist in on and Hoka shoes right? Water running down the leg

@TimGrose

2 ай бұрын

@@thoughtfulsd yeah what you have on your feet won't impact your legs. I guess it also depends on the weather and if wearing some water proof type leggings is possible/practical.

I heard the solarglide 4 gtx os a very good waterproof shoe (🤣)

@TimGrose

Жыл бұрын

Ha ha, they are so heavy and rigid, I might have got stuck in the ford :) Maybe I should still test them as still only got a total of 2 miles on them.

@fabsterun

Жыл бұрын

@@TimGrose they are about the same as the zf5 in weight. But I do think boost is outdated a bit

@TimGrose

Жыл бұрын

@@fabsterun Lot more in my size. Left one of the SolarGlide 4 GTX is 448g and other other 444g. Literally my heaviest shoe. My Zoom Fly 5 is 388g left, 381g right. These Pegs are 370g.

@fabsterun

Жыл бұрын

@@TimGrose still the King of bricks

@TimGrose

Жыл бұрын

@@fabsterun yeah. Never had a stability shoe before but it felt like how I imagined one would feel like.

Water never comes out from any shoe, but air dryes them ot and that comes in.

@TimGrose

2 ай бұрын

I have noted that once your socks get wet then yeah that feeling may linger for the rest of the run. For me these type of shoes tend to keep out the worst of the conditions and allow me to consider routes when wet (or indeed running at all) that might not otherwise do in wet conditions.

Are these true to size?

@TimGrose

7 ай бұрын

Yes same size for me as all my other Nike running shoes.

@sr20mar

7 ай бұрын

@@TimGrose thank you !

Posso dire che la seconda volta messe dopo una passeggiata modesta sotto la pioggia è entrata acqua in tutte e due le scarpe

@TimGrose

Жыл бұрын

Hi am translating using Google Translate so you did a walk in the rain and water got into both shoes. Ah that's not good but where was the water coming in from do you think? Always going to be a potential issue if water runs down your legs. Otherwise did water get above your laces?

Mine weren't waterproof... at all.

@TimGrose

Жыл бұрын

Oh dear. Where did you go and how deep was the water? I always think if the water level is above the shoe than going to be difficult to stay dry. In my tests here though I got a bit damp in relatively high water but in "normal" shoes I think would have been totally soaked.

@Julie-my6ds

Жыл бұрын

@@TimGrose I just went a 30 min walk in mild rain! :( had to return them. Waiting on hoka gtx coming!

@TimGrose

Жыл бұрын

@@Julie-my6ds so maybe the rain just ran down your legs, socks got wet and in that way? That's always going to be a potential problem with these type of shoes.

There's a bridge man

@TimGrose

Жыл бұрын

Ha ha yes but hard to test GORE-TEX shoes if take it.

These are not waterproof over the laces. if you step in water that is deep enough to cover the laces, water will go in. It does have gore-tex all over shoe except under the laces. this is kind of misleading because a goretex shoe should also cover the laces. My other goretex shoes like salomon have no problem steeping in water submerging my laces. Just something no one is talking about. i bought mine and returned it thinking it was just that particular shoe but each new pair i received had the same thing. So don't submerge this shoe over the laces under water.

@TimGrose

Жыл бұрын

Ah that's a shame because as you may have seen in this video, I essentially stood in water that covered some of the laces and no water got it. What was an issue however if the water went over all the laces as then water could just seep down your legs and socks. I do my shoes quite tight though due to having narrow feet. I wonder if that is a factor as having the laces tight means I have quite a good seal as it were.

The accent of an American but the speech speed of English, this was a brain workout listening 😂😂

@TimGrose

Ай бұрын

Ah don't think I have ever been told I have an American accent!

@Tenacious_Schemer

Ай бұрын

@@TimGrose it’s like you were born in the UK but grew up over here

@Tenacious_Schemer

Ай бұрын

@@TimGrose clean spoken words, all pronounced like I would, not a lot of twang to anything 😂 amazing really

@TimGrose

Ай бұрын

@@Tenacious_Schemer out of interest who would be somebody well known you think has a typical British accent ? Over here, there are quite a few variants. I am from the London area but say somebody “up north” might sound very different.

@jah-leah

29 күн бұрын

def sounds english lol

It seems stupid to run through the road with water over your ankle, you get wet definitely. It's good for shallow pool of water.

@TimGrose

7 ай бұрын

Yes obviously there is an element of doing that for my video to see what happens. However there have been a few times when I have been out running when my path has been blocked by water over my ankle and either I turn around or plough on through.

All well and good until it rains and then you are going to wearing boats full of water

@TimGrose

Жыл бұрын

I talked to that towards the end of the video after the 2nd ford crossing. Also on that one, the water level was deeper and much higher than the shoe itself and yeah some water did inevitably creep in - probably down my legs but it certainly was not "pooled" and when I took my shoes and socks off in the closing sequences they were only "damp".I think the relatively high gaiter would also absorb some "run off" in these. I did once get caught in essentially a thunderstorm in a pair of GORE-TEX shoes and yeah water got in but felt would not have been any "better" in any other shoes and I really was just glad to finish that run as there wasn't a dry bit on me anywhere. That's rare though.

They are NOT WATERPROOF. Big disappointment. Sad, because I love the fit (wide) and cushioning.

@TimGrose

Жыл бұрын

As I have said though on several replies was the water level above your shoes and/or was water running down your legs. If so then I feel they are not designed to be waterproof for that.

@Alf-M

Жыл бұрын

@@TimGrose Of course not. I get wet just running in damp grass.

@Alf-M

Жыл бұрын

Also the version 3 had lots of complaint about not being waterproof. So, I actually counted on Nike having resolved that issue with version 4.

@TimGrose

Жыл бұрын

@@Alf-M How do you think water is getting in though? Literally through the GORE-TEX (which I have not found in either version) or maybe because the exposed part of your socks got wet and it seeped in that way (which I have).

@Alf-M

Жыл бұрын

@@TimGrose I can't say for sure, but it's definitely not through my socks, because I'm dry around my ankles. It's just my front part of my socks that are wet. Not soaking wet, but more than possible caused by sweat. I have now bought waterproof impregnation for shoes - hope that helps.

The 3s look better

@TimGrose

Жыл бұрын

Yeah probably. I do prefer the 4 as a running shoe however - lighter and better as a road/trail hybrid which is more in keeping with the sort of runs I generally want to do in wet conditions.