Nightwish turning vocal coaches into metalheads is the best thing on KZread!!

@domfol5515

3 жыл бұрын

Ya, agreed 😂🤘

@BukaTheNoise

2 жыл бұрын

Forget the vocal coaches, there are now 60+ year-olds getting into metal thanks to Nightwish.

@pauljohnson8872

7 ай бұрын

@@BukaTheNoise Dude Sabbath is considered the first Metal Band - 60 years olds have been into metal, but it's perhaps a wider population with the Nightwish addition over the last 27 years.

@BukaTheNoise

7 ай бұрын

@@pauljohnson8872 i was talking about 60 year-olds who never listened to metal before discovering Nightwish

She has said that the recovery consists of kicking back with the guys after the concert and having a glass of red wine with Tuomas. She joked that her husband Hannes and his bandmates in Sabaton, consider the Nightwish gang to be old fogeys as they don't party much, preferring to go to bed early.

@millerbeer01

3 жыл бұрын

The Rush of symphonic metal.

@filipmasek8548

3 жыл бұрын

lol just watch the End of Innocence DVD and you will see that Nightwish probably partied too hard back in the day and now prefer chilling:)

@NightwishArena

3 жыл бұрын

@@filipmasek8548 yes. And that was one of the reasons Tarja didn't belong. She matured faster and wanted to be with her husband.

@fixxa6455

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah She said that Tuomas and band members would rather drink a glass of wine after the show, and the sabaton guys think that would be boring. But there is an age difference. Just check tuomas and Troys age compared with hannes as example

@billattercliffe8655

3 жыл бұрын

@@filipmasek8548 No question about that ;)

I love this version because Floor stalks the stage like a panther the whole song 🐆 🤘

This is by far the best version of the song, Floor's performance is especially amazing considering this was at the end of over a month of touring and almost daily shows

Singing bass players are so underrated. Most people do not understand the difficulty of the rhythm often running counter to the melody line. To explain I sometimes compare it, to that "trick" of using one hand to tap yourself on the head in a vertical motion while rubbing circles on your belly with the other hand. Playing Bass (or drums) and singing is kinda the mental version of that.

@PaleHorseShabuShabu

3 жыл бұрын

I've never _really_ had a problem with it. I'm by no means the quality of bass guitarist or vocalist that Marko is, nor would I sing all that often in any of my old bands, but for me, if I'm playing something live, I mostly go on music muscle memory because I've played whatever I'm playing a bunch of times before. When I was on stage, I'd be actively thinking about performing or singing rather than playing. The only times I would focus on my playing was when I had to step on a pedal or wanted to throw in a little bit of improvisation.

3:50 - 4:00 “I’m so fascinated by this - I may have to take a lesson, a growling lesson. I’m sure I would use that somewhere in my life”. 😹 👏

@themajor743

3 жыл бұрын

Answering telemarketer calls comes to mind.

Tuomas isn't a big fan of growling but has infused Floor's growling techniques in some of the NW songs. I recall Floor stating in an interview once that she was sometimes sore the day after a performance. In another interview she said that she does enjoy working out while on tour and feels it is important to keep the whole body in shape so that would probably help maintain her stamina throughout a lengthy NW tour.

Floor explained her windmills in a video. She actually had a problem when she was younger, sought treatment and was given advice on how to reduce wear and tear on the neck. Notice how she stands feet apart, knees bent and hands braced on her thighs. That braced position solves many of the issues compared to an unsupported stance. The original singer Tarja had an awesome windmill and with her arm positions, she looked like an aircraft about to take off. However, she wasn't braced and now has neck problems. She is still performing, but the windmills are a thing of the past for her.

@paulriddle7818

3 жыл бұрын

As are becoming a thing of the past for Floor.

@optimusakc

3 жыл бұрын

@@paulriddle7818 doesn't seem like it based on concerts she did a couple weeks ago. She was doing all the typical windmills for certain songs.

@mdudley52

3 жыл бұрын

Floor said in an interview,at 40,windmilling is going to be reduced.

@madddog6790

3 жыл бұрын

At one point, when asked about not getting neck pain from windmills, etc, she said something along the lines of "don't do the whiplash". Yet, over the last couple of years, she started doing the whiplash lol.

@hamohamo8270

3 жыл бұрын

I haven't seen Tarja making a windmill like Floor

It's embarassing how long it took me to realize it's Floor doing the growling. Well. I'm happy as fool.

Just a tip, this coming season of Beste Zangers will feature Anneke van Giersbergen. Anneke was a big inspiration when she started out and has performed with her on numerous ocasions. :)

@k.l.7788

3 жыл бұрын

Awesome, love Anneke!

@shirazzza

3 жыл бұрын

Oh sweet! I bloody love that show & I love her. Will try to find a way to watch

4:13 - 4:34 The total amount of lyrics Floor sings in that 21 secs is amazing - how does she breathe! I’m so please you acknowledged her talents at 5:09 to be able to remember Tuomas’ intricate lyrics and her stamina! 👍🏼 Floor has a video chat with Tarja they joked how they do not ever need to go to a gym to stay fit because being on tour is a workout every night!

I am shocked that I am the only commenter so far. I love your reactions. You notice the little things. Regarding the head banging, windmilling, etc: I don't know about the after-concert massage. Seems like it would be warranted, for all of them. Regarding Floor's full-on windmilling, I have heard that it actually helps her singing while on stage, as it helps keep all of her neck muscles relaxed. Notice that she is always in the same stance while doing it. It looks calculated and ritualistic. I have also heard that she said recently that her windmilling days are numbered, so it seems she recognizes that her neck muscles won't always be as toned as they are now and that she is prepared to modify her performance on stage to suite her physical limitations as she gets older. Very wise.

@blackwolf766

3 жыл бұрын

Are you a channel member or something

@GWDH19

3 жыл бұрын

How can you react two weeks before this video was uploaded?

@warbear323

3 жыл бұрын

@@GWDH19 Absolutely no idea. Maybe she edited it? I'm not a KZreadr, so I don't know what could cause this. Definitely weird though.

I've seen it said before and I agree, it always looks like Nightwish came to party and the audience crashed it. I've never seen a bad performance, they seem to always be firing on all cylinders.

@StevenELewis-kb8sm

3 жыл бұрын

There's bands that I like live but prefer in the studio. And then there's a very small selection I actually prefer live. Nightwish is at the top of that list.

Christie, Floor, talks about head banging and windmilling in this interview…kzread.info/dash/bejne/rIGBzpedktGpfrg.html

One of my favorite songs of Nightwish! Loved the reaction

As a previous comment explained she consulted with a physiotherapist about the safest way to headbang and it seems the Windmill with hands braced on thighs is actually less damaging than the normal back and forth headbanging with can lead to whiplash like you would get in a car crash. The Deep growl that Floor gets is using the false vocal folds only.

Don't know if you have been informed, but Floors windmills actually relaxes their neck. And Floor put her hands to her hips so she has support while windmill g. One opera/classical singer in training said that her teacher tought her to relax her neck muscles like that.

I’d be down for a live stream of your growing lesson.

If you watch Floor when she windmills, her body is kept very straight and her hands are on her hips or thighs. She says it doesn't affect her so it's probably just a relaxed rolling of the head.

@JariJuslin

Жыл бұрын

I understand if you do it right it can actually help relax your upper body in midst of demanding singing. But that IF there is a very crucial if.

So glad you came back to this!

I also did not realize that it was Floor growling the first time I heard this 🤔. I've heard NW in concert twice but they did not do this number. Floor is amazing in so many ways.

Yes, they're SO professionel, not just Floor but all of them. And also the crew working with pyro and lights and the stage setup! Amazing craft and professionalisme- and as serious about their profession as I am with mine as a PICU nurse. It's so good!

Hi Christy, always love your reactions to Nightwish, or Floor's own special covers and duets. And I also know you love our Dutch TV-show "Beste Zangers", of which you did a lot of great reactions from the year 2019 (with Floor, Henk Poort and others). That year was already the 12th season (of 14), but there were some other great seasons too. So there's still a lot to check out from the earlier years, like 2016 (with OG3NE), 2017 with Anita Meyer, Maan, Tommie Christiaan & Tania Kross (duet: Barcelona !) 2018: Maria Fiselier and Davina Michelle and many others. You will love it. Good luck with your channel.

Such a great song. Glad you came back for a second reaction. Love your breakdowns Christi

@bazkeen

3 жыл бұрын

@Valerie Glad you are enjoying Valérie. 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻 Back to my guitar lessons 😋😋😋

Thanks for this reaction and analysis 😊👍 About the windmill, I rode that she asked a physiologist to find a way to do it without hurting her neck or influence her voice. All is in how she stands when she's doing it.

Thanks for your great reaction 😄👍 I so appreciate that you notice how ausumn Marko is❤ LOVE Marko and the whole band; Nightwish rules!!

I've heard a vocal coach explain that the shaking of the head during the windmill can be a technique to relax the vocal cords. So there's that theory :D

Watching vocal coaches (and other people!) turn into Metalheads with Nightwish as their gateway drug truly never gets old

Take two. Thank you as always for reacting to Nightwish. ;-)

"it's really not a hobby..." ROFL!!! ..when listening over and over to this "airy" section it almost sounds as if Floor is slightly off pitch in the beginning, then in the middle of it it's so pure, then she takes it off a bit,, kind of makes the atmosphere fit the aggression of the song,, really appreciate your comments

Normally I don't watch second reactions, but somehow this one seemed worth it...and it didn't disappoint! Makes all the difference in the world watching this one, huh? BTW, I do have a question Christi. I seem to remember you saying you're married to a keyboardist/pianist ( hope that's correct). If that's the case, have you introduced to Nightwish, and in particular Tuomas' work? What does s/he think?

Another amazing tidbit about this performance and show, this was the second song, and the show was over 2 hours long. She still has Ghost Love Score, The Poet and the Pendulum, and The Greatest Show on Earth coming up towards the end.

No particular knowledge other than what Floor has discussed on her channel. She always supports her windmilling by placing her hands securely on her legs to give her additional support. And in her own words paraphrased, "If you get dizzy, you are doing it wrong." Floor, always the charmer. One of her best qualities. Take care and Thank you for the re-reaction.

I love your Nightwish reactions!! Grettings from México! I'm a rock and metal singer in a band, and I do headbang on shows. It helps warm the muscles of neck with some excercises before the show. I imitate the position of Floor and it's more comfortably. The morning after of the first time that I've make headbang, my neck it really hurts ... But, some a couple of shows later my neck was fine. It doesn't hurts anymore 🤘🤘🤘

Nice Reaction ,when you love Marcos Voice its Time to hear his Pink Floyd Cover from High Hopes

You picked up on it right away. They perform at the top level. Best of the best here! You should get the album this is from: Endless Forms Most Beautiful. It's very clean and you'll hear things they can't do live. Welcome to the Nightwish Army! ❤️

You my lady are the Floor of reactions! So detailed and interesting. Thank you!

She is Floor Jansen, First of Her Name, Siren of Sound, Monolith of Metal, our Alabaster Angel of Emotion, she is our Queen, our 6'1" Valkyrie Goddess of music. Long may she reign.

Let's keep the vocal coaching part, on the side for a minute and talk about you. OMG you did the reaction for second time just because the Nightwish fans told, that you didn't do the 'right' version... How sweet was that? You teach kindness and gratefulness at the same level as vocals. Thank you

In a Dutch tv program, The Reunion (i think?) they followed her at the show in Tampere 2015. The morning after the concert the host asked Floor how she feels. 'a little stiff'

The point about rest days plays into musical theater as well. My brother-in-law was in a touring show and then on Broadway for about a year. They would do 8 shows a week. He would end the performance exhausted. He needed to work out at the gym regularly to stay in shape for the performances as well as protect his voice.

I have heard Floor say she does wake up the next day and feel it. Like a hard workout for the neck and upper shoulder area. Loved it Christy! Be well.

Very nice reaction again to the band Nightwish and our FL🌀🌀RICANE!

i love hearing floor and markco harmonizing vocals and her growling more than one time and the dissonance between her and markco is quite cool and the awesome rhythms all throughout the sound it picks up and just goes right out the gate and her up there like on a pedestal yours is an giant empty with that curl with her lip so much passion they have and you know i don't think its that different from what Geoff Tate from Queenscryche probably day after day

Floor, when asked on the Dutch show, "De Reunie"(The Reunion) how she feels the morning after a concert replied, "A bit stiff. Usually very tired". Not sure that she was speaking about any specific part of her body but most likely overall stiffness.

Floor has talked about the windmilling. To do it right you have to relax your neck, it actually feels really good. Kind of like a good stretching exercise. She's said it doesn't hurt for her at all.

about floor's recovery time and programming: i'm going to see floor next week and in november!!! she's doing a 'solo' show with songs from her old bands and from ' beste zangers' (accompanied by the band that performs on BZ). the show is on 1, 2 and 3 september in Amsterdam. in nov/dec she's doing a Europeanen tour with nightwish with 17 shows in 9 countries in 32 days. they'll play in Amsterdam again. floor will have the chance to fulfill her promiss to henk poorte (that he can sing Phantom with nightwish when they are in the netherlands).

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Thanks For The reaction Christi

I was an enthusiastic 'edbanger' for a few years! Probably too much so. I remember after seeing Motorhead in my teens I went to school the day after and couldn't hold my head up at all. Literally had to lie on the desk...ears singing. I fully expect early onset dementia to go with my deafness... Still, it was fun at the time.

Think about stamina and vocal control. This was only their second song of the set list and later there was all the three major ones ( Ghost love score, Poet and the Pendulum, Greatest show on earth

On floors personal KZread channel she has some Few minute Q&A videos and a fan asks her does her neck hurt after doing her windmills ( since she is Dutch, we call her head banging windmills, lol) she said in a video that all the windmilling doesn’t hurt her neck at all.

When going to a metal concert or party I always warm my muscles up. Every sports person does for a very good reason - and head banging or windmilling is sports. I never Gas problems so far. I think warming up is very important... and I suppose being a swimmer helps as well.

I think the reason you've gotten so many requests to revisit this song is because of your earlier admonitions against the growling style of vocals. You were completely correct that trying to sing in this style can be VERY harmful to your voice... if you don't know what you're doing. But there is definitely a way to do it healthfully and sustainably for years and decades. Floor is an excellent example of this, though there are many more. There is a world-famous vocal coach named Melissa Cross who, somewhat by accident, has become a vocal guru to metal singers around the world because she has taught them techniques that allow them to still growl like forces of nature without harming their vocal cords.

Its amazing that floor has been doing these vocal gymnastics and windmilling for almost 25 yrs .....i honestly worry sometimes, shes a workaholic, its seems she never stops ,wether its doing these super demanding 2 hr plus setlists with Nightwish and now she has to do all of Markos parts aswell.... to doing her solo stuff in between BUT this is what she was born to do .....i know she takes care of herself and im sure tuomas and the boys look out for her but i still worry . 😟

Thank you for reacting on this song. Would just like to say though that I think you are just gorgeous.

Really enjoy your reaction! Also you are so pretty!! Beautiful person and soul!

Christi you are amazing.

Hey, you should definitely check out wildcard, Revamp live show featuring Floor Jansen growling, awesome 👌

If done right, windmilling is actually relaxing and taught by some vocal coaches.

I'm a little late, because i had some technical problems earlier today. The cruise version is ok - it's power is the more intimate setting. This is a grand stadium show with better A/V-quality. How on Earth Floor can remember the words of about 15 songs in every show (and Tuomas put lots of difficult words in their songs, and a quite little breathing breaks 😵). I have to practice days for a one simple song. Maybe we can call it professionalism. 😎👍

Love your reaction

Hey! Another song you might like from the same album is Weak Fantasy, I like the Tampere version. Another million vocal qualities fron Floor in that one

your the sweetest

Headbanging is not a healthy practice by any means, but I guess it's just a part of metal culture. :D I remember Tarja saying in an interview once she got some serious problems and she thus doesn't really do it anymore, just the occasional swing once or twice in a concert and Floor has also suffered some health issues from doing that. Oh, the commitment!

Would love to see you do some more Epica as well!

fun or not so fun fact about this song i read marko hietala stainless book. this was set list second song, that time marko see his wife in audience first time when concert start and he thinking that maybe like the song name maybe they married is over soon, few months later they divorced. thanx again great reaction :) have awesome day there. all family members and girl friends was there coz it was big happening that finish band concert in history first time legendary wembley in any finish band ever. marko have raskasta joulua ( heavy christmas ) concert day before this concert in helsinki finland. everybody thinking can marko come right time wembley before concert start :)

I’ve heard how Floor does it, but from my own perspective, the key word for headbanging is, as weird as it sounds, “relax”. 😂 Tense up too much and you’re gonna be feeling it in the morning I assure you. If the muscles are warm and you’re not tensed you can swing to your heart’s content. I suppose it’s like anything physical too - the more you do it, the less it hurts (barring any health conditions of course.) 🤘🏼

If my wife could growl she would use it on me all the time. "Unload the dishwasher and take out the trash!"

Please react to The Islander live Tampere show 🙏 Marko vocals are amazing 👏 👌

FYI: the best version of Floor's final growl is in this performance: kzread.info/dash/bejne/i3d51amGc8_fhrQ.html

Perhaps I am an oldster, too (well, I am, in many ways ...) because I have the same protective worry when I see her windmilling. I just wanna send her a massage therapist to help relax those poor little muscles holding her magnificent noggin on top of it and going through a spin cycle again and again. The growling, too, fascinates me. I think I need to look into the mechanics of it a bit more. Let me know what you find out!

After a full night of headbanging/moshing whiplash is common.

"I'm sure I would use that somewhere in my life?" Yup, anytime you want to clear a room of people or shorten a lineup, a deep leopard scream should do the job. We don't hear it in this performance, but Floor has an awesome big cat scream which she used in a few ReVamp songs. It's funny to watch her snarl at her guitarist. He knows it's coming, but he still can't stop himself from flinching. kzread.info/dash/bejne/hYKEx9WFdrfUhco.html at the 0:38 mark. It's just fancam so the audio is poor, but we can still hear the snarl clearly.

Your joy watching all of these Nightwish videos is practically palpable. A Nightwish cover of Pink Floyds High Hopes is a song you TRULY NEED to react to. I would recommend watching the Pink Floyd version if you are not already familiar with it before you see what Nightwish with Marko signing lead could have been. i love Floor but this is a moment not to be missed. kzread.info/dash/bejne/ZqN5ptCPlby_qbA.html

@williamthomas7509

3 жыл бұрын

Also ... Floor covered Queen's "Who Wants to Live Forever" so an editing genius put her and Freddie Mercury together in an impossible duet this mash up has links to both originals that were used. kzread.info/dash/bejne/ooJntriEmrvFfcY.html

Thats why she wind mils and not head bangs side to side or front to back. rolling the vertebrates is "easier" well less straining .

I love your reactions always! I can growl, just for fun really, but I have a new kitten & to get him off the bench etc I will growl haha he listens!

If you ever look at Floor, you'll notice her neck is thick and muscular from all the years of headbanging and windmilling. Or maybe it's just from holding all that awesome that most people don't have in their vocal chords. One of the two.

Floor and Marko.

At the Nightwish dot com tour page does not show a one on-one off schedule so apparently she can handle shows in a row. She repeatedly explained that she needs mental rest since her empath characteristic tires her quite a bit. So a quiet room and no people around for a bit is required once in a while/every show/week/month.

FLOOR JANSEN DO THE GROWLS AND MARCO SING THE CLEAN VOCALS AND FLOOR S GROWLS ARE SO FREAKING DEEP HER DEEPEST GROWL is an A 1

I think the issue with the cruise version is the backing track is turned up more like the studio version and it tends to drown out Floor. This one is more clear, but the cruise is I think more polished of a sound over all.

Whenever I want people to leave me alone I sing heavy growl songs. People clear right out of my prep kitchen, it's glorious. (Live in a very religious town, people I work with think I'm possessed XD)

The Gig 2012/3 un which Floor become lead signer of NW replacing Anette, the USA leg got 25 shows in 28 days!!!!!

Hi Christi How r u I hope your week had been great. Troy is a year older than Marco.

Floor is a queen!! Oh.. Jinjer just dropped a new track.. Wallflower.. one of their best!!

Thank you for a great reaction❤️ Dimash just came out with a new song, Stranger, which is beyond amazing!! It’s written by Igor Krutoy, Dimash added the eastern folklore tone and the ancient instrument Kobyz. Thanks again and greetings from Sweden 🇸🇪

@wowa99

3 жыл бұрын

I would add, after song Stranger he came with song Fly Away

It's easy to forget this is the first song of an two hour concert. Where Floor Growls, belting, sings operatic/classical style parts... Doing this on tour several times a week says something of her vocal stamina and skill.. Just as Brittney Slayes in Unleash the archers this is mind blowing... Along with Jinjer, the three metal Queens of metal.. There is a video who shows Brittney go to a club after such an own concert and in a karaoke session belt out a veery demanding Queen of the ryche song. Like it's nothing... So you may wonder what kind of stamina these lady's have....kzread.info/dash/bejne/ZGxkprSqn6rffNo.html

@mepatrik1

3 жыл бұрын

Shudder Before the Beautiful was the first song on this tour, this was the second. And the show wasn't longer than 2 hours.

imagine being somewhere in africa and hearing that last screem ..then seeing all the lions run for their life. And you are just thinking..wtf is Floor doing here!

Tarja Turunen & Floor Jansen 'Over the hills' MFVF XI Wieze,Belguim 20/10/13 kzread.info/dash/bejne/Z2uL1bCSedfIg7g.html Have You listened this one? Two Nightwish female singers (first and the current) Showing that Ladies can do Metal...

DIMASH'S New Song (Stranger) is on fire 🔥 we hope that you do a reaction to it 💝

but i am happy you did thise better video

Yep , she growls too .

Mónica Naranjo - Avui vull agrair (Amazing Grace)

Lots of reactors seem to miss Floor’s growling, but if that’s Marco doing the lead vocal, who’s growling in the background? 😁

Yep, now you've got it! But are you aware the false vocal cords aren't the vocal cords? If you try to do a growl with your vocal cords you will certainly need recovery. If you know how to growl with your false vocal cords you won't need much recovery .

If you are gonna take growling lessons, talk to Kardavox academy and maybe you can do a video colab with you learning to growl!

Tom Araya of Slayer had to have surgery and could no longer headbang in his later years. He used to windmill SUPER intensely for decades. Catches up, I guess.

So sad that Marco is not anymore there.