Tarja was the first singer, then came Anette ☺

@yksvaan1690

4 жыл бұрын

Two fscking assholes and i'm a guy saying it. Yep, Tarya, Anette, Floor. History wasn't shaken.

Tarja shaped the early first years - in fact 9 years - of nightwish and was/is still loved by "oldschool" nightwishler.. like me. I love Floor and think she is the best what ever happened to Nightwish after the fateful year of 2005. But Tarja added something unique to Nightwish in her time that is still present today. It's natural that Nightwish-Newbies "grow up" with Floor now and are used to her. Seeing old material with Tarja feels just "wrong" for them. But in fact - every singer (even Anette) contributed some magic to that band.

@Songfugel

4 жыл бұрын

True true, it is so annoying these days when newbie Nightwish fans are dissing Tarja, but can't hear any critique to their Floor, even when it is deserved

@soundofnellody262

4 жыл бұрын

@@Songfugel Well, maybe thats because some older NW-Fans dis Floor just because she is not Tarja. I have seen that a lot -without any reason. It is not a competition. Instead I am happy to enjoy such a huge variety of NW-music. And honestly, so far I didn't hear anything of Floor that deserves critique.

@Songfugel

4 жыл бұрын

@@soundofnellody262 Just goes to prove my point

@soundofnellody262

4 жыл бұрын

@@Songfugel And that is?

@soundofnellody262

4 жыл бұрын

@TheBlackiwid lol, well yes.. maybe thats right. I'm sorry. I think, she did a great job in Meadows of heaven and Amaranth on the studio album. But the old material was beyond her abilities. Thats purely my opinion of course. I know she is a good singer. And it was not her fault what happen with Tarja. She had a very difficult stand to make. And Nightwish's jump from purely operatic vocals to pop vocals... well, I think many fans could not take that. I hardly listened to NW when Tarja left. I only started again when I was in Wacken hearing Floor.

Everybody seems to forget that without Tarja, Nightwish would not exist. The first idea of Tuomas and Empu was to make an acoustic folk-rock band, but because the voice of Tarja was extremely powerful, they decided to do something more metal and gothic. Tarja is a perfect opera singer and she's called The Nightingale of Finland. And also I love Floor since 1998. I just hope for the next album she will get more freedom from Tuomas to use all of her singing abilities.

@ceciliagio

4 жыл бұрын

This! without her the Nightwish we know wouldn't exist.

@alexiss6990

4 жыл бұрын

Period!! Without Tarja there wouldn't be any Nightwish at all. And just for that reason, everobody should respect Tarja! Even if they like Floor more. Btw I love Floor as well but Tarja had just some kind of special aura idk. She gave the band something no one will ever replace.

@tiinazagorianos3549

4 жыл бұрын

" Everybody seems to forget that without Tarja, Nightwish would not exist " Without Tarja??? No. Without Tuomas Holopainen. Then " Tarja is a perfect opera singer and she's called The Nightingale of Finland ". I haven't heard that before. And I'm searching on Google too. Nothing. So who calls her " The Nightingale of Finland " ? This info is new to me even though I live in Finland. Usually I do not comment here on posts. But that was a must. I have nothing against Tarja. But let's be reasonable . She also gained recognition from the band. She will continue her career. And Nightwish on its own.

@tihomirtomov

4 жыл бұрын

@@tiinazagorianos3549 Ok, allow me to correct myself. Without Tarja, Nightwish would not exist in the form we know them today. As I've said the original idea was acoustic folk-rock band (think Auri, the other band of Tuomas... I guess he never abandoned that idea). You can check this fact easily listening to the old interviews of Tuomas. About the whole "Nightingale of Finland" ... I've read this in old magazine's reviews for the band in my native language, so I can't confirm that right now. I don't collect magazine's from 15 years ago, so you can ignore that. And finally, yes, Tarja moved on, the band moved on, everyone is doing the music they want and pursue their careers. I'm just tired and lately really getting pissed off by the people who dismiss the contribution Tarja did for the creation of the band, as she was just a robot programmed to make the noise Tuomas wanted. Come on.... This is just my opinion, a fan of Nightwish with or without Tarja, of Floor Jansen (with or without Nightwish) and of course Tarja's fan with or without Nightwish. People, please stop arguing about who's "the best" and just enjoy THE ART they give you.

@onlythtruth2938

4 жыл бұрын

amen, she drew in the crowds

There is no compassion between the three singers. Each brought something different. Floor is the most versatile. Tarja had the balls to follow Thomas's idea. To do something completely new. Anett brought a more modern sound to the vocals. Love all three. Each brought something different.

@QazwerDave

4 жыл бұрын

Compassion comparison

@Songfugel

4 жыл бұрын

Also typoed Tuomas and Anette, but agree with you 100%

@Garbox80

4 жыл бұрын

Amen.

@lastword9475

4 жыл бұрын

Tuomas is the one who catered to Tarja's then superb killer mezzo timbre hoping to shoot for higher goals then a folk band...Annete brought a jazzy sound...Floor is great but her current range spans from lady gaga pop to mainstream with a few pleasant diversions into her former AF and REvamp days..Tuomas's influence..i am sure...she is capable of much more

Tarja the Finnish queen!!

Tarja actually has a pretty strong stage presence as well. She really gets in action in Slaying The Dreamer live from the same concert.

Everything you're saying about floor "I feel like I'm cheating on floor" Is what I feel for Tarja. Of course I'm happy with Floor, but I still feel, after all these years, that I'm cheating on Tarja.

@onlythtruth2938

4 жыл бұрын

well luckily , in this relationship cheating is not a problem since its all in our minds.

Yeah, and by the way Marco is perfect! He sounds good with all three female singers, so... He´s the best :)

The full, powerful and operatic voice of Tarja is equal in volume with the music of the first Nightwish era and complements it perfectly. Songs like Ghost Love Score , Ever Dream, Nemo were created specifically for her voice.

Try Tarja - Supremacy ( Muse Cover ) Woodstock 2016. She is definitely queen of metal ❤

@coachmikesfilmroom3111

4 жыл бұрын

that song blew my mind. she's amazing with it.

@rachelt101

4 жыл бұрын

The Hellfest video is much, much better

@yitzchokchaime2646

3 жыл бұрын

Tarja today is better than the pop band there

Nightwish - Slaying the dreamer Live End of an Era with Tarja Turunen 😊 I don't do the comparing thing, I just love Nightwish. Tarja is just magical and what she did with Nightwish no one else can do, she is unique in her own way. Just like Anette and Floor 😊 Thank you for another great reaction! 🤩🤘

May I also add that its widely believed, thru Tuomas' lyrics, that he was in love with Tarja, since very early on... she was the first singer. they all went to HS together. She was basically the love he couldn't have... she later met her husband, so just imagine. The Poet and the Pendulum is a very emotional song for Tuomas and it even shows how regretful he was in realizing how he handled her departure... which was with a written open letter literally right after this concert ended, everyone knew but her. I've watched this concert so many times and im not sure that anyone has ever noticed (since ive never seen comments about it) but in this entire concert, Tuomas and Tarja never interacted, its kinda sad.... I urge you to react to Everdream from this concert (i know you just did it with floor) but in this version you will see the emotional break tuomas takes at the beginning where even Tarja looks back trying to see whats going on (but obviously in a smiling way for the sake of the concert). In the letter they painted her out to be a diva, and thats the easiest thing to believe especially since in this concert everyone notices how she had multiple outfit changes but i think thats just bogus... floor has multiple outfit changes too, ppl just dont realize it since theyre all black lol btw i love floor just saying lol but in all the years following her departure, 14 to be exact, nothing has ever risen about Tarja being unfriendly or divaish to anyone... in fact what came to light more than anything is how much of a humble and amazing person she really is.... as you can tell, im a fan from old nightwish that got introduced to the band with tarja, but without a doubt i love floor in the band just as much... especially since i knew about floor since wayyyy before she was in nightwish, so naturally i knew she was going to be the perfect pick once Anette was gone. But yes please react to Everdream live end of an era and also The Poet... thank you guys for the amazing channel!

@FemaleMetalLover

4 жыл бұрын

You're right on spot, no one has ever been able to prove that she is a diva, or hungry for money and fame. Contrary, her actions speak of the opposite, whereas the guys who say that she threatened to leave without a day's notice, they fired her without a day's notice ironically. They also profited from her departure, and capitalized on it 3 times, The Book, The DVD, and the New Album = Sounds like Fame and Money to me..

@vgmendoza21

4 жыл бұрын

I loved your comment. I actually read a lot about their differences and Tarja departure. I never believed those stories of her being a Diva. I could believe that his husband was a busy body but what made me sad is how the band didn't know how to manage their drama. Now that you explained about about Tuomas feelings I can get it a little.

@onlythtruth2938

4 жыл бұрын

every song he wrote before and after she was cut, was about her. she changed outfits due to excessive perspiration. he better leave Floor out of his fantasies or she'll slap him silly.

@xeleelex146

4 жыл бұрын

@@FemaleMetalLover sing it sister....yah, those reasons Tuomas gave for the separation were spurious....for 9 years she fronted and drew in most of the fans and suddenly when she announced that she had plans for a solo career, without giving any definite dates and bringing down the house in that last epic concert with numerous fans in tears and trances, they decided to dump her because she was now married and had a slither of a personal life..in.all that time she has never slipped up once and even performed this last concert recovering from a flew, afraid to disappoint her fans.

@xeleelex146

4 жыл бұрын

yah, those reasons Tuomas gave for the separation were spurious....for 9 years she fronted and drew in most of the fans and suddenly when she announced that she had plans for a solo career, without giving any definite dates and bringing down the house in that last epic concert with numerous fans in tears and trances, they decided to dump her because she was now married and had a slither of a personal life..in.all that time she has never slipped up once and even performed this last concert recovering from a flew, afraid to disappoint her fans.

Tarja was their first singer and she was great. She was the role model for female singers in symphonic metal for years.Then there was Annette, the second singer, who was pretty good, but a little more popish and not quite fit in with the sound of the Band... and finally there was perfection, with Floor. Even the old nightwish fans, like me (well, 99,9% of us) absolutely love Floor and think she is just perfect for Nightwish.

@pyssy123

4 жыл бұрын

Wise words, some wise words! 👍Been there, since start and agree 100%.

@mitaboop

4 жыл бұрын

@No One soo true. Nightwish has never been better than now🤩 and the chemistry and the the level of happiness inside of the band, it is priceless😍😍

@pyssy123

4 жыл бұрын

100 % On point. Edema Ruh fan video tells it all, about insane chemistry in this band and whole Nightwish Family. On or off stage! I really missed Tarja, because She at the start, was one of a kind! When someone is becoming in His/Hers mind bigger than the band, it always means trouble. So had to let go. Floor has had really tought school, in mostly male Metal business. She knows, what this is all about! She is unique, like everybody in Nightwish! Together they are far more than six individuals. They are Flawless ❤

@xashfordx

4 жыл бұрын

I think nightwish now is watered down nightwish, no real spark there anymore. Music is ok- greatest show was brill, the rest of the album hit and miss.

@xashfordx

4 жыл бұрын

No One Only because they sound a bit more mainstream with the standard sounding lead singer.

I've always preferred Floor, but after watching the video Nemo, I understand the love for Tarja.

@stefanl5183

4 жыл бұрын

I always thought the best performance of Nemo was from the 2005 download festival.

Tarja is number one forever...Her presence on stage was and will always be greater than Floor's, Floor is a great singer, Tarja is excellent superb, Nightwish wouldn't be where they are today without Tarja

Tarja was the original singer of Nightwish. IMO the voice of the band. This duet is just pure magic,

Tarja was with the band almost since the begining, but she and her manager became some what distant. But she is a great voice and artist. You must see more of the End of an Era with Tarja. Sleeping sun, everdream, dark chest of wonders for example! Great reaction. Thank you

Tarja was the first singer for the band , Annete Olzen was the second ;) oh wow someone who has not seen Phantom of the Opera, well yes this song is a cover from one of the songs from the opera ;) Tarja was the singer that Tuomas wrote "Poet and the Pendulum" about after letting her go from the band.

First - Tarja Turunen Second- Annette Olzon Third - Floor Jansen Yes this song is from the Andrew Lloyd Webber classic, The Phantom of the Opera.

@rkeef8322

4 жыл бұрын

Have you been deaf for a long time or something

@aether13x69

4 жыл бұрын

@@rkeef8322 Exactly what is it I said you disagree with?

@jaciemokidm609

4 жыл бұрын

@@aether13x69 I'd like to know too haha

Sarah Brightman did the original version of the Phantom of the Opera, and this is Nightwish's version of that...

What happened? She married another man! That's when tuomas attitude toward her changed. If you want to really understand Nightwish study their music from the beginning. Check out the "Wishes to eternity" DVD. It's here on youtube. Also listen to the lyrics of many of those early songs. Many of those lyrics tell a story of unrequited love (everdream, she is my sin, passion and the opera, white knight fantasy, etc.). Tarja and tuomas meet when they were kids. tuomas mother was Tarja's piano teacher. They attended school together. When nightwish was founded it started as an idea for a folk music project between tuomas, Emppu, and Tarja. All other members came later. tuomas and Emppu came up with the idea and tuomas first thought of Tarja as their vocalist. The 3 of them had went to school together. However, tuomas and Emppu had been away in the military. During that time Tarja had went to school to study Classical singing. That's why her style is more like an opera or classical singer than a rock singer. Anyway, tuomas initial idea was folk music. Anyway, they asked Tarja and she agreed. However, they didn't know how her voice and style had changed as a result of her training. When they started working together on the project they were surprised and amazed. That's when their plans changed and they decided to go in a direction that would be a unique combination of Classical and Opera style vocals combined with metal style music. This was the unique style that defined the original Nightwish and made them different and special. The modern day nightwish is not a bad band, and I have nothing against Floor, nor Anette (the 2hd singer). However, the new nightwish is really nothing like the original and that concept was inspired and born as a result or Tarja, her voice, her classical training, and her style. Yes, she doesn't behave on stage the same way as Floor, but that's by design. Notice her style of dress, and the way she carries herself on stage. Also notice her heavily classical and operatic style use of head voice and Bel canto with lots of resonance and vibrato. All of this is part of what made Nightwish unique and special. The original Nightwish was NOT a heavy metal band. They were a blend of classical, operatic vocals with metal style music. And they started a whole new genre that became known as symphonic metal. The new nightwish is definitely more rock and metal, but it's also a lot less unique and not that much different that some other bands. And if it hadn't been for Tarja, they never would have went in that direction in the first place because tuomas original intent was a folk music project. Again listen to their early albums and watch the wishes to eternity DVD, to see the original nightwish. Then perhaps you'll understand. As for what caused the break up, listen to those lyrics I mentioned above. Everything was good until Tarja met a man she fell in love with and married. Then the crap hit the fan. Jugde for yourself whether Tarja was really to blame or whether the green eyed monster of jealousy reared it's ugly head.

@Aurinkohirvi

4 жыл бұрын

And the nickname "operatic metal" too is used of symphonic metal, and that's because of Tarja. She was also an inspiration to other symphonic metal female vocalists to take classical training. Floor is one of those, but she in the end didn't like the way classical vocals are done.

@Haegemon

4 жыл бұрын

Indeed. Songs from the first albums are about love desire (i wish I had an Angel), later the songs are about lost, suffering and desire to die (Nemo), after expelling Tarja came the rage, which is part of a mourning process (Bye Bye Beautiful), then the regret and shame of how he had handled everything (The Poet and The Pendulum). She married another man, certainly. Not sure if he ever had a chance but IMMO, if that day she was attacked on the stage, he had been the one to jump over his pianos and take the guy out the scenario by storm just before going back to confort her...perhaps he would had changed his history.

@lastword9475

4 жыл бұрын

so true..Marcelo was Tuomas's fol and the perennial lack of heed for Tarja's concerns and safety and security from that horrible incident in Mexico city in 2000 to the last concert , forced to perform in a very unwell state

they had plenty of chemistry from the time she co-founded the band and changed its direction with her superb vocals, propelled them to great heights and kept them there for 9 years ....the trouble started when she asked for some concessions from Tuomas and he felt it was too excessive...suddenly she became a pariah...

Yep, this one was the original singer Tarja. In the early days the music of Nightwish was also different; they evolved from goth rock to power metal, then came the cinematic stuff and finally actual orchestral elements. All of that made pretty unique combination with Tarja's voice. They made 5 albums with Tarja, and 2 with Anette. Very different sounds and vocalists, so naturally it has been kind of a rollercoaster to old fans lol. To me all that variation it's just a good thing, can't really blame them to be repetetive and doing same stuff all over again. And yeah, this one was indeed cover version of Andrew Lloyd Webber's famous musical. Cheers and thank you again!

I feel like in order for people to like Tarja they have to start with her, like me..... Tarja will always be my favorite.

You are used to Floor, and certaintly she is amazing. But Tarja's operatical voice is from another World (I don't mean to compare, each one does a great job in their own way). And I don't agree she didn't have a good presence stage or chemestry with the band. Cause remember she was in the band since the beginning, and Toumas reached her to sing in the band, cause he knew Tarja had a classical training and very powerful voice that he wanted in the band.

Tarja was first !!

I've been a fan since 2003/4 - Tarja was amazing as a frontwoman for Nightwish, her voice with their musical talent led the way for this kind of operatic/symphonic metal and inspired other bands that followed. Even Floor drew inspiration from Nightwish in the early days and Floor and Tarja remain friends today! When Tarja left it was so uncertain about the future of Nightwish since her sound is so distinct. She has some amazing songs like Slaying the Dreamer (End of an Era), Gethsemane and I've always been partial to her version of Sleeping Sun, but Floor is just such a versatile Powerhouse which with such a loving demeanor....It's hard to not be smitten with Floor especially having big shoes to fill! 💞 You are ready for the Poet and the Pendulum- live at wembley - yes the one with lyrics on. The backstory basically is that Toumas felt such guilt over the firing of Tarja and didnt know the certainty of the future of everything. His depression left him feeling so low and so in the song he lyrically commits suicide so he doesnt have to do it in real life. Even today the song is hard for him to perform as you can tell in the live version, when his band mates come to support him and when he sings along to the lyrics at the end. Its split into sections including when he gets home from the End of an Era tour , to the lows of his depression thoughts and when he finally goes home to his Mother and Father who help him recover with what they say. You've been on a great Nightwish Journey but theres still much more amazing stuff yet to see 🤘 rock on!

I love Tarja ♥️

Guys i think it's a bit unfair to judge Tarja only on one video that you've seen. Tarja has a great stage present(not great as Floor tho) In late years with Tarja, she was really kinda disconnected with the band. But in her yearly years she really kicked ass on stage. Please check out Slaying the dreamer from the same show. Also Wishmaster from Wishes to eternity concert.

Please do more reactions of nightwish with Tarja, you're gonna love it. (nemo, sleeping sun, 'ever dream' is amazing, over the hills and far away, she is my sin...)

Hell yeah, these two together are pure magic

Yes this is from the original Broadway musical. This song has been around for over 70 years!!! Great show and great silent film also!!!!

@Mu77ley

4 жыл бұрын

This song is from Andrew Lloyd Weber's London West End production from 1986 originally starring Michael Crawford and Sarah Brightman (although it did end up touring all round the world), so it's 33 years old. kzread.info/dash/bejne/m6SnvMqGmqbJXaQ.html

Tarja was the first

This is a song from the actual musical The Phantom of the Opera. In fact, it's the main song and the most well known song from the musical. Nightwish just did their own cover version of it here. This version follows the original pretty closely.

Thank You Guy's. Tarja was my first Love ❤. Floor will be The Last. 💝. Tarja's last night with Nightwish: Really excellent choice, this was really emotional evening.2nd best Nightwish show, I've ever been.

@rainrai

4 жыл бұрын

@river114

4 жыл бұрын

Joulu Pukki love your nickname santa 😂

@pyssy123

4 жыл бұрын

One day, maybe 10 years ago: Opened KZread channel. This was the best I came with. Maybe little drunk. Thought Evil Elf too 😀😁😊.

I've been following NW for 20+ years. Always cool to see the reactions.

Every one has told you about the order of the singers. You have the basic info about the split with Tarja. The only thing is it was the whole band that wanted her gone. They all signed the letter, but Tuomas took the brunt of the criticism. Even the Prime Minister of Finland jumped in and wanted them to get back together. One big thing is she was refusing to come to the US again because they did not make a lot of money and the concerts were in smaller venues. Great reaction as usual. Thanks guys........ :-)

@Haegemon

4 жыл бұрын

That's not exactly precise. The band simply backed Tuomas. He was the soul of the band, he was making the songs and the lyrics. They were High School friends. Tarja was also an acquaintance from High School. In the middle of the backlash from the fans some member expressed he wasn't agree about expelling Tarja but they had to stick together for the best of the band. At that moment many fans thought they were dead as a band. About the US tour, Tarja was committed to touring, as she explained over and over again when all this exploded. She had nevertheless asked to delay the start of the tour by a couple of months because she had committed to other personal projects, as it is known she wanted to pursue other musical interests beyond Metal.

This is last show with Tarja after which they gave her that famous open letter. It was recorded for live dvd,so now you maybe can understand Marco's joke on the beginning of Romanticide from Wacken show which was also recorded :D

Tarja just a regular singer? lol ok. Great reaction guys. Subbed

I've been fan since 1999, Tarja was great, she was perfect back then. Then came Anette, not big fan of her live performances, but she was ok in albums. Then came the goddess, Floor ❤️ She's the best in every way.. I just love her voice, her stage present... perfect!!

@bobmagnoski8526

4 жыл бұрын

If you get the urge it might be good to check out early Nightwish Beauty of the Beast is in my opinion Tarja's best Nightwish song, I know Sleeping Sun, Deadboys Poem, Creek Marys Blood and Higher than Hope and so many others are all right up there too. Also Beauty and the Beast (my first Nightwish experience) will give you an idea why Tuomas does not sing. it is still one of my favorite Nightwish songs just would like the male vocals be done by Marco and yes I know he came later. I also think the End of an Era DVD is right up there with the Wacken 2013, Tampere and Wembley shows too. I was a Tarja fan and was one of those who thought NW was doomed after she got the boot and I do understand the reasons behind the dismissal. B & S are correct in the need for cohesiveness in a band. Remember that Tarja had already announced she was going out on her own. Oh yeah she had granted NW a final album what a fiasco that would have been (a farewell tour). I too thought Annette was adequate t least in studio and do not forget that 2 incredible albums came during her era that would not have happened if Tarja had not gotten the boot. No Master, Passion Greed, No Bye bye beautiful and of course no Poet and the pendulum. NW has evolved over the last 20 years that I have been listening and Floor is the perfect fit for the music of their entire history.

@xashfordx

4 жыл бұрын

I actually think floor sounds quite bad live, suppose it’s the sacrifice made for stage presence. Just wonder when they are going to kick out floor, it will happen 😂😂😂

@mattvideoeditor

4 жыл бұрын

Floor is superhot and talented, but she is just a soprano like pretty much every other women. Traja's voice is deep and rare, she is the true godess.

@embran8486

4 жыл бұрын

@@bobmagnoski8526 YES! Someone recommending Beauty of the Beast. Very few recommending that one.

@arze1226

4 жыл бұрын

Im a quite new fan of Nightwish, about 2 years. I think that Tarja will always be best Singer in most Hardcore Nightwish fans, because she was first, original. Annette has a great voice, she is great Singer, but Nightwish was not her style, after Tarja expectations was bigger than she could pull off. Floor is definetly more Nightwish Style and presence they need, awesome Girl, but all the expectations of vocals in Nightwish was put by Tarja, so even if im new fan of the band, Tarja is No 1, Floor is 2nd Annette is 3rd.

Haha,... Great reaction as usual dudes. Nice to see you enjoying the music. I think I've listened to the End of an Era DVD a hundred times. I kinda got burned out on it but Floors entrance into Nightwish got me loving them all over again. Some of Tarja's solo stuff after she left Nightwish is quite good as well. Bubububye

Great reaction guys. TARJA is the first singer and she was a friend with TUOMAS from when they go to school. And when TUOMAS started the band TARJA was asked to join. But as you guys said she after some time she became more and more distant to the group. And it became a problem within the group and TUOMAS had to make a choise keep or cut her from the band, and he did the first. But TARJA was so popular with the fans so he get so much hate and comments from some fans. He gott really depressed and was thinking about suicide. Instead he wrote POET AND THE PENDLEUM. It was a way for him to get back to life again. So this song has a really strong background.

The live recording of The Phantom in the sold-out Amsterdam Ziggo Dome is now also online on KZread. Nightwish played the song live again in November 2022 for the first time in 17 years together with Henk Poort.

Thank you for doing this! I found this entire show on vinyl in some record shop in the Middle East. Totally worth every kidney... I mean penny.

You guys definetely need to watch more videos with Tarja. This one is a cover. From that same concert (end of an era), try Wish I Had an Angel and Dark Chest of Wonders. If you're more into balads, try Ever Dream and Sleeping sun. I love Floor, I really do, but Tarja will always have my heart since she was the first singer and she made Nightwish with Tuomas. I've never really been a fan of Anette, especially live, too off of tune...

@danij5055

4 жыл бұрын

I couldn't have said it better myself. Tarja was great and still is great in her solo career. Floor is great. Anette was good, especially for some of the songs she sang. But she just wasn't a good fit for Nightwish. Without Tarja, there would be no Nightwish as we know it. Before Tarja, Thomas had a very different idea for the band.

Tarja was their first vocalist and very talented no doubt about that. She is also a trained opera singer. I like her better in her solo albums. if you want to take a look at her solo material start with the song "Oasis" from her "My Winterstorm" album. It is mainly a instrumental track but her voice is used as one of instruments. The song is spine-chillingly beautiful. here is the link. kzread.info/dash/bejne/fpqc1JN8iMjSd9o.html

yah, those reasons Tuomas gave for the separation were spurious....for 9 years she fronted and drew in most of the fans and suddenly when she announced that she had plans for a solo career, without giving any definite dates and bringing down the house in that last epic concert with numerous fans in tears and trances, they decided to dump her because she was now married and had a slither of a personal life..in.all that time she has never slipped up once and even performed this last concert recovering from a flew, afraidto diappoint her fans.

Now you have to react to Sleeping Sun with Tarja, that’s her song and nobody sing it with the same emotion as her even tho the three of the NS singers were good in their own way :3!

Try the same concert (end of an era) slaying the dreamer, the siren, Wishmaster, Planet Hell.

Tarja Turunem - Supremacy ( Live in Milan) 😌

Check out The Siren from the same (End of n Era) show, out of this world song

@bridgetmccracken1381

4 жыл бұрын

I second that

@soundofnellody262

4 жыл бұрын

@@bridgetmccracken1381 me too :)

Floor is great but I love Tarja the most of Nightwish female vocalists. Her voice is amazing! Of course Tuomas is the soul of Nightwish and I understand why their and Tarja's roads separated. Still great to listen these songs from early Nightwish years. ❤

The thing that's missing though is that tuomas was also in love with tarja and that mixed in with her distancing made the situation volatile. But also know that tuomas and tarja were bffs since they where practically teen (not literal) but then they become musical partners and his creative control, let's say, was driven more from his own needs rather than also including tarja. So overall, the situation was not great to begin with and tarja wanted different things so its shitty of tuomas to have fired her in such a public way, but they all became better afterwards.

Tarja

New to the channel. I've been binge watching all of your nightwish, they are one of my all time favorite bands. You should listen to over the hills and far away Tarja really rocks that one!

This is from Andew Lloyd Webber musical. The original soprano who sang it was Sarah Brightman. This is a metal version of the song. This was Tarja's last concert with the band. She walk off the stage at the end of this concert and was terminated. A great way to look at the differences between Floor and Tarja is to listen to each of their renditions of Ghost Love Score.

Believe it or not The Phantom of the Opera was Tarja's last performance before the band had to let her go. The reason being that she never really felt like this was her path. Originally, when Nightwish was formed it was going to be more of a classical band. Tuomas, the keyboardist, noting Tarja's operatic training brought her into the fold and basically formed the band around her voice. Being that they were all good friends and growing up together, it was very hard for them when she started to drift away, missing the practices and started making statements about leaving the band. Some credit her being influenced by her businessman husband Marcelo Cabuli, who was incidentally overheard on numerous occasions making statements that "Tarja was the face of Nightwish" and that she "could do much better without the band". Floor was actually the 'fill in' singer back when Tarja started missing the practices. Then they hired Anette and she was with them for a time until she broke her ankle in a fall when she was pregnant. At that point Anette just wanted to heal, have her baby and be close to home. So they moved Floor to the position of lead singer. The song The Poet and The Pendulum, which was written and wholly composed by Tuomas, was all about the dark time around when they had to ask Tarja to leave. Tuomas and the band suffered depression over their feelings of betrayal, especially Tuomas who was affected the most, to the point that the band, family, and friends were worried about him committing suicide. You can see in The Poet and The Pendulum that it's his journey working through that depression, those dark times. Tuoman's written suicide, instead of the actual act. The very last words of the song are about forgiveness, love and making a fresh start, "In the end I will always love you....The beginning". So very very hauntingly beautiful. IF you haven't seen it, you really need to. It is one of the most hauntingly beautiful songs ever written. kzread.info/dash/bejne/mZaim6mcqryom9o.html

Maybe you guys could have done a little research on the original song first. You might have realized that Tarja's stage presence was just perfect. When reactors, like yourselves, get hit by the "Floor section" of the Nightwish army, this is the song that's usually suggested to be introduced to Tarja. Personally I wouldn't suggest it. Not that it has any flaws or anything but it would be fair to watch her perform on a similar rock /metal level as Floor. Songs like "Slaying the Dreamer" or "Planet Hell" are great examples where Tarja has a stage presence and a performance, more suitable to compare with Floor. Just my opinion. Thanks for the great reaction video

It highly depends on taste I guess. I love Floor and they're new sound but some of the older songs just sound better with Tarja, but probably since they were written to compliment her style and voice. Or maybe since I've been listening since the begining. Either way all 3 singers brought their own flavour and all 3 of them were great in their own way.

Nope guys, she was the FIRST singer. I Love Floor, but I Love Tarja too. She is an amazing singer, and with her it all got started.

ORIGINAL MUSIC: kzread.info/dash/bejne/Y2er0MhpmNPQlNY.html Antonio Banderas and Sarah Brightman singing The Phantom of the Opera ❤🌹🐱‍👤In sleep he sang to me In dreams he came That voice which calls to me And speaks my name And do I dream again? For now I find The phantom of the opera is there Inside my mind Sing once again with me Our strange duet My power over you Grows stronger yet And though you turn from me To glance behind The phantom of the opera is here Inside your mind Those who have seen your face Draw back in fear I am the mask you wear It's me they hear My spirit and my voice In one combined The phantom…

Tarja was the first singer. Basically she got fired because her husband became her manager and that led to her being disconnected from the band and she was gonna go solo but Tuomas fired her before they made the album Dark Passion Play. They hired Annette as their second vocalist and did two albums with her. She was more poppy and struggled to sing the older songs live although in the studio she sounded good. They fired her because she was not a good fit. Then they finally struck gold and got Floor whom Tuomas had wanted for a while. So during the 2012 tour which started out with Annette still in the band , they brought Floor on after they fired Annette about half way through the tour as a guest vocalist to finish the tour. They decided to make Floor a permanent member after the tour and made the Endless Forms Most Beautiful album with her... But yeah to your point earlier, Floor is more dynamic and versital than Tarja and her presence on stage is much better. Plus the band has much better chemistry with Floor than any other singer. Their new album is gonna be great!

@michaeldougherty2807

4 жыл бұрын

Tuomas probably wanted Floor when Tarja was fired, but she was in After Forever.

@stups9975

4 жыл бұрын

@@michaeldougherty2807 yeah Tuomas was definitely scouting her, so to say, when she was in After Forever. He commented that he had her in mind to replace Annette because she can sing opera and metal and various other styles that she displayed in After Forever and Revamp. And it's great Floor now gets the credibility and exposure she deserves now in this band.

@Wriwnas1

4 жыл бұрын

Floor was always their 1st choice but she wasnt available, therefore they hired Annete...

@xashfordx

4 жыл бұрын

Will be funny when they fire her, it will happen because she will realise she can go it alone.

@cree_VI

4 жыл бұрын

@@Wriwnas1 i always thinking, how, why they choose Annette. There are lots of singers with stronger vocals

Tarja was the original singer and she is a vocal beast

People can hate on what I'm about to say but....I still say Marko Is the beast of that band.

The thing with Tarja was that, she married and had children, and her priorities shifted, and because it was the first time it happened, it caused a rift, and she leaned more on her husband than tried to understand or be understood, and her husband is actually the person fins blamed the most for the break up, calling him a greedy bastard. We don't know what exactly happened from all sides, but Marco wrote in his book about how tarja didn't fly with them, didn't enjoy long tours, wanted to cancel concerts that had been agreed on, perhaps because they didn't pay so much, perhaps for other reasons. Her husband also thought that as the Voice of Nightwish, she should earn more than others and that was a sound NO. The fans turned the whole thing into a spectacle and blamed Tuomas for firing her because he was in love with her and she married her husband (not kidding, this was in newspapers) but she had been married for years. That was Not the reason. She also said she would leave anyway in a few years, so they decided she would leave now. Marco wrote that he gave Tuomas the ultimatum of either Tarja goes or He goes. We know what happened. I don't want people to hate on any of them. It was a case of not communicating, as was Anette's case later. The men have learned from their mistakes and Marco wrote that they keep communicating more now, which spells good for future. Some people say Anette was fired because she got pregnant. That wasn't it. Floor was pregnant during the filming of Poet and the Pendulum at Wembley. It's entirely an attitude thing.

Check out the song Beauty OF the Beast by Nighwish for another example of Tarja excellence. Listen to the album version, not live. It's as epic as Ghost Love Score, which Tarja also sang originally.

Hello and thanks for this nice video. Just my 2 cents: Tarja had more classical vocal training as a lyric soprano but she has been trying to expand her skills by making use of her chest and speaking registers a lot more when she went solo (probably the reason why she sounds 'bland' as you've mentioned because she mainly used one type of singing while in NW - because that's what Toumas had envisioned the 'NW sound' to be which is symphonic metal). Also, I guess she gained more creative freedom as a solo artist - she was able to collaborate with a lot of other musicians like Chad Smith, Alissa White-Gluz, Joe Satriani, Within Temptation, Cristina Scabbia, Floor Jansen, Simone Simons, etc. (whereas in NW, Toumas basically controls everything and do very limited collabs with other artists in order to keep that NW vibe I guess). Floor is a versatile hard rock/metal singer but she also can do some classical voice (she also studied about it but not as extensive as Tarja's). That's why honestly, I prefer listening to Floor during her days in her old bands After Forever and ReVamp because I like her powerful 'rock sound' more than her classical sound. In some interviews, Floor said that she can do classical/operatic voice but if a professional opera singer will listen to her, he/she will notice a difference with her technique; plus, she had said before she prefers doing rock/heavy metal more than classical. Cheers!

@Kristina_A

4 жыл бұрын

Anyway, may I leave some video suggestions here because my previous comment was already lengthy: Therion - The Rise Of Sodom And Gomorrah Live Wacken 2007 (they're considered as pioneers of the symphonic metal genre), Tarja - Stargazers Live 2011 (this is the reason why Tarja-era NW fans are still loyal to her because some NW songs just doesn't sound the same if she's not singing them, Stargazers for example), Korn - Blind live Woodstock '99, Pantera - Domination Live Video, Slipknot - Spit It Out Live At Download 2009, Gojira - Flying Whales (Live at Vieilles Charrues Festival 2010), Metallica - One [Official Music Video] , Sepultura - Refuse/Resist [OFFICIAL VIDEO], DragonForce - Through The Fire And Flames (Official Live Video), Iron Maiden - The Trooper (En Vivo!) [HD], Arch Enemy - 18.Nemesis Live in Tokyo 2008 (Tyrants of the Rising Sun DVD), Arch Enemy - 1.Blood on Your Hands Live in Tokyo 2008 (Tyrants of the Rising Sun DVD), Rammstein - Mein Teil - Hurricane Festival 2013 - Proshot . . .

This is the title song from the musical Phantom of the Opera, Most famously performed by Michael Crawford and Sarah Brightman. This is the song where the Phantom finally reveals himself to his student/love obsession, you must listen to it. Tarja is amazing, listen to her Christmas album. I like Floor as well, both amazing in their own way.

I love Floor, but Tarja is the queen!! You sould react to her singing Supremacy, It's amazing!!

The Phantom of the opera is the beginning song from the musical it's their first duet together

Yep, it's from the musical

I started listening to Nightwish back in the late 90's Tarja was the first singer then and when they let her go in 2005 many of us were upset. Annete just was not a great fit with symphonic metal but she had some good songs like Amaranth. I came back to Nightwish after hearing Floor and not leaving again. Funny side note the song with the most views of any Nightwish song was an Annete song. Bye Bye Beautiful has over 110 millions views but if you watch it you will know why.

Wow, Marko brought this to another level. Marko puts so much emotion into the songs. He makes you feel the pain, joy and drama that Tuomas creates in his poetry/masterpieces. (Yes I know Tuomas didn't write Phantom of the Opera). I don't believe anybody could top Tarja and Marko's version of this song. This was so good. It will always be their song!

😍 tarja ... she ' s the best .

I'm an old Nightwish fan. I loved them thanks to the very, peculiar, presence of Tarja as opera lead singer, mixed in the powerful metal-epic of the band... ... I felt, sadly, cold when then Annette appears: she is a good singer, but felt too "pop-ish" to take the role. Then Floor. That mix rock, opera and presence on stage. I put her and Tarja almost on the same level, but... well... undubtely Tarja is in the genes of the band, but Floor brought the full spectrum of possibilities that were needed after Tarja substitutions. My (Nigh)wish is to see BOTH Tarja and Floor together, in a dual-female leading formation.

Good grief. Tarja helped create Nightwish and in many ways her vital contributions to the brilliant arrangements of Tuomas & Emppu have not been eclipsed as it was the Tarja era that defined and grew them to global success. Floor, the 3rd female lead singer is incredible and brought new dimensions to the vocal stylings of Nightwish that are sensational. Annett, the female lead between Tarja and Floor, had a voice many consider more suited to pop-rock than that of the Nightwish catalog. It’s certainly understandable to have personal favorites, but it is a disservice to cast aside the original vocal impact of Tarja, the years and the albums she contributed to Nightwish history. As the title of the DVD indicates it was the “end of an era.” Some will favor its sound, others will favor Anette’s or Floor’s - its all Nightwish though and the arrangements and musicianship will be a constant. The music and its quality will endure.

The Queen Tarja. 🙏 Only Tarja can replace Tarja. 🙏 Amen 🙏

You just took a trip to Eb6, something few can do. Give her the props, boys.

I personally prefer Floor, to me she brings more variety to her voice. That being said, I can't take anything away from Tarja, she's extremely talented, and I love her to death. Slaying the Dreamer is my favorite song from this concert. Great song overall as well.

You two do good work.... Last Ride of the day from Wacken is worthy--- Please and THANK YOU!

Tarja is the first singer - this song is from the musical - yeah Marco has killer vocals - it's okay to like Floor, Tarja and Annette it is not sacrilege (well it may be to some) - Tuomas is Finnish for Thomas - great reaction - thanks guys !!

I found Nightwish when they just fired Tarja and Anette was the singer. I was a bit confused until I read the wiki :) Floor is probably the best lead vocal of the three, but respect to Tarja for being part of that unique Metal and Opera sound and because Ever Dream was the song that kicked down the door for me.

Fan from the start, like all the singers, but tarja will always be the best era

Tarja and Anette both were excellent but had a defined style which is a hindrance in a band that has a composer like Tuomas. Floor finally has the scale to match his compositions. She kinda makes the band whole in a way. Tuomas seems to agree since he said in an interview that if Floor ever leaves he will end the band. Something he never said about the previous two... Floor can sing anything Tuomas puts before her. Before he had to compose for the singer and there were songs Tarja and Anette were not comfortable singing live. Not going to be a problem with Floor.

@tiinazagorianos3549

4 жыл бұрын

Floor is member of Nightwish. Not only front singer, like Tarja and Anette,but part of company Nightwish has. Called Oily Empire . Floor has a share of it. Jukka 7% and rest for band members equally to everyone. So yes, Tuomas really meant it in the interview. It's already seen by the owners of this new company. Who they are.

Tarja is the Best !!!

I love Tarja. Nightwish ever dream Marco and Tarja :)

utter perfection...love you Tarja....

Tuomas (keyboardist), Emppu (guitarist), Tarja(so not the 2nd singer) started the band. Beard guy came later. As Nightwish became popular, Tarja became the face of the band and the "star". That fame probably got into her head, which lead to them kicking her out. She is still extremely highly regarded as a singer. A lot of fans regarded the band as "dead" after the breakup, but when Floor came (3rd singer) in who was already known and famous resurrected it. As Floor can sing operatic vocals of Tarja and rock vocals of Anette, while not imitating either one, and making the songs her own. While there is Nightwish civil war between Tarja fans and Floor fans, Floor and Tarja are friends. Worst victim was Anette, who got insane amount of hate from Nightwish fans, even though she made the best Nightwish album

Tarja is the BEST 💛 I fucking love her!!!

I love Floor but Nightwish is like this and sounds so especial because Tarja sings like opera.

Tarja (1st singer), Anette (2nd Singer), then Floor. All great singers.

This is the Broadway cover. Don't worry, there's a bunch of Floor videos coming. She is in a Dutch tv show where a group of singers sing each other's songs. 1st episode was this past weekend, featuring their big Broadway star (old guy). Link to Floor's performance: kzread.info/dash/bejne/npeAqZeRYcyYgbA.html

Great reaction as always. Tarja was the first singer for NightWish. This was the last concert she did with NightWish. Be sure to read the back story behind The Poet and The Pendulum. It will give the song more feeling and what Tuomas was feeling when he wrote the song.

First singer. You can like both, even all three ;). Tarja and Floor are both good. Tarja is big part of band’s history... Ahhh Floor is just awesome

Tarja was the first singer. Please check out "The Siren" from the End of an Era concert

This song i think Marco is just killing it. His vocals is very good. 🤩

It's strange to me how much people never heard about such classic as Phantom of the Opera, don't mean to underestimate anyone, it is just a bit strange to me. And my opinion about Tarja(1st singer), and later Annete(2nd singer), 'problem' with them is that they never have been in to METAL that much, and Floor is obviously a metal head. Although, Nightwish will never be same without Tarja. Just my opinion!

try nightwish - the siren live, also with tarja since this is a cover song it doesn't showcase the true feel of the tarja era songs other good songs are; dead boy's poem (both tarja and floor live versions are available), ghost love score (end of an era, with tarja) and high hopes (end of an era, an amazing pink floyd cover sung by marco :) )

And what silly coments about Tarja not having Floor's stage charisma. They both have it in spades. Tarja's MO (maybe just nature) was to dress like a killer queen, her drop dead gorgeous self in sufficiently revealing dresses, then act like a tomboy and get the crowd to riot. Try find some older footage. Or just see Sleeping Sun from this same End Of An Era DVD, although she's much calmer in her thirties :P

I didn't look like anyone said but yes this song is originally from the Phantom of the Opera Musical I think this song in particular showcases Traja's vocals the best with this band but it would be awesome if you guys could check out any of her solo work.