Nightmare In Cincinnati's East End Neighborhood: The CG & P Railroad Terminal, Cincinnati, Ohio

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In the East End neighborhood of Cincinnati, Ohio at the corner of Carrel and Dumont Streets you'll see a strange looking 2 story steel structure. This is what's left of a large railroad complex that once operated at this location from the 1870s to the 1930s. The complex was interesting as they had 3 different sets of railroad gauges which meant 3 different styles of trains operated here at the same time and each train style could only operate on their specific rail line. In short, it was a nightmare in Cincinnati's East End neighborhood.
GPS Location: 39º06'25.1"N 84º26'01.4"W

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  • @bartrosenberg
    @bartrosenberg2 ай бұрын

    The CGP was immediately adjacent to the Presbyterian-Fulton Cemeteries which I started to restore in 1999. There were still some tracks extending over Carrel St to the station (in 2024 all that's left of the station are some granite curbs and rail). The CGP yard also was partially built over a lot that was deeded to the Trustees of Columbia School Academy by Nicholas Longworth back around 1804 for use as a school and "no other purpose". The school did exist briefly; by around 1875 when the CGP started up, no one remembered the school lot. There was also a longitute/latitude station on the property - a concrete monument which is now below the surface due to grading for the bike path.

  • @johnswigler6512
    @johnswigler6512 Жыл бұрын

    Glad to see another interview with Jeff.🚂🇺🇸🇺🇸

  • @JeffreyJakucyk

    @JeffreyJakucyk

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks John, I appreciate that!

  • @sharonsecen2300
    @sharonsecen2300 Жыл бұрын

    I play here as a child, all the Neighborhood kids would join there and play so many memories.

  • @emilymccarty6343
    @emilymccarty6343 Жыл бұрын

    TY love Ohio history!!

  • @BoomBoom-xn7ud
    @BoomBoom-xn7ud Жыл бұрын

    Great video, thanx!

  • @claudermiller
    @claudermiller Жыл бұрын

    I live in New Vienna. The tracks the old interurban to Blanchester run right behind my house. We had a station nearby. It would be great to catch a train to downtown Cincinnati for a day out.

  • @acgillespie
    @acgillespie Жыл бұрын

    *Grandparents all worked in these area's back in the good old days* Would Travel from Aurora

  • @aceautonewportky
    @aceautonewportky Жыл бұрын

    Damn Jeff, your wealth of knowledge on this topic is amazing. Thank you so much .

  • @jamesmcclanahan4091
    @jamesmcclanahan4091 Жыл бұрын

    you can still see a small crossing east of Russellville

  • @davelear5099
    @davelear5099 Жыл бұрын

    You can tour the water works. Its by appointment only. They let a group of 15 to 30 tour it about twice a year. I went on it twice in the last 10 years. Its a great tour.

  • @dennisthomas8256
    @dennisthomas8256 Жыл бұрын

    They forgot to mention the remains of the rail station in Amelia on SR125.

  • @michaelfinter7393
    @michaelfinter7393 Жыл бұрын

    I believe part of the old roadbed of the C.G.&P. RR runs along the south side of the walking path in Bethel. It was more evident 20 years ago, but development has pretty much erased it. Thanks to you two, this was very interesting.

  • @musclecarmitch908
    @musclecarmitch908 Жыл бұрын

    Awesome episode! Love the railroad history! Thanks for sharing the history of this railroad with us!

  • @historyinyourownbackyard2363

    @historyinyourownbackyard2363

    Жыл бұрын

    You're welcome.

  • @rayjburkhart1752
    @rayjburkhart1752 Жыл бұрын

    That's some good history, thanks

  • @VickiBee
    @VickiBee Жыл бұрын

    I've lived in Cincinnati on and off for 35 years, but I've never heard of this. Of course, I lived in NYC for 12 of those years.

  • @stanmohr8601
    @stanmohr8601 Жыл бұрын

    Just found out last week the city of Cincinnati still owns a railroad that is least out and operated for decades by Norfolk southern.

  • @historyinyourownbackyard2363

    @historyinyourownbackyard2363

    Жыл бұрын

    Here's a video I did last year that mentions that fact: kzread.info/dash/bejne/m2Gsw9axdLLIXZM.html

  • @kevind8752

    @kevind8752

    Жыл бұрын

    The line runs to Chattanooga

  • @larryambrose2660
    @larryambrose2660 Жыл бұрын

    If you want to see a beautiful railroad station there is one on Depot St. in Berea, Ohio. It is now a restaurant but the old railroad station is part of the restaurant and is beautiful. The food is good too.

  • @maybesomeday2596
    @maybesomeday2596 Жыл бұрын

    Very interesting…it’s great to see some coverage on what was the mundane and everyday; not all history is over the top. However, I’m not sure what the ‘nightmare’ in the title refers to. The fight for survival and ultimate demise described was common to all but a few narrow gauge steam road and electric interurban lines, though the tri-gauge track was odd.

  • @kkampy4052
    @kkampy4052 Жыл бұрын

    My grandfather was an engineer with the Big 4 railroad that ran out of Cincinnati. Haven't been able to find much on the Big 4 though.

  • @ronart3468
    @ronart3468 Жыл бұрын

    There is a old hidden cemetery in those trees

  • @winstondietz

    @winstondietz

    Жыл бұрын

    Pray tell!

  • @sharonsecen2300

    @sharonsecen2300

    Жыл бұрын

    Absolutely called the Pioneer cemetery

  • @chrislee1096
    @chrislee109610 ай бұрын

    My Dad live on Eastern Ave and Carrel St. found a cat named Tommy Traction this was in the 1920’s.

  • @animalou812
    @animalou812 Жыл бұрын

    I'm fascinated with the old history. Should do an episode on the riverfront track along the serpentine wall.

  • @historyinyourownbackyard2363

    @historyinyourownbackyard2363

    Жыл бұрын

    Good idea!

  • @animalou812

    @animalou812

    Жыл бұрын

    @@historyinyourownbackyard2363 history on the old freight houses and how ironic it was that the city partitioned the stb to force abandonment because city council said "rail is not in the future for the banks". Something to that affect. The I&O had trackage rights over the line and it connected the west lines to their yard without having to run over NS and CSX. The I&O also offered light rail rights to the city over the line. There is laws on the books saying a line can not be abandoned if there is a use for the line. The I&O took the city to court along with the businesses who used the I&O ( like the Anderson's and a barge company) to prevent the removal. But the city has more Monday and somehow convinced the stb to allow the removal of the line. Today that line could have been used for not only freight but light rail. Connecting Lawrenceburg with the banks, Fairfax, Norwood and sharonville with the banks.

  • @chrisclauder6630
    @chrisclauder66305 ай бұрын

    Family lived above their drugstore 4026 Eastern Dad had a cat found on traction line called Tommy Traction

  • @tamsondarland8951
    @tamsondarland8951 Жыл бұрын

    Very interesting history. Thank you for your wonderful channel. Love from Ky.

  • @historyinyourownbackyard2363

    @historyinyourownbackyard2363

    Жыл бұрын

    You're welcome.

  • @swisschalet1658
    @swisschalet1658 Жыл бұрын

    very informative! thanks

  • @historyinyourownbackyard2363

    @historyinyourownbackyard2363

    Жыл бұрын

    You're wlcome!

  • @davidkimmel4216
    @davidkimmel4216 Жыл бұрын

    Thank You

  • @bigdaddyj452
    @bigdaddyj452 Жыл бұрын

    I live by Georgetown. This is very interesting

  • @fryarmike
    @fryarmike Жыл бұрын

    Am I the only one who thought this was about a train wreck?!?! Nothing about this was a “Nightmare”

  • @kskssxoxskskss2189

    @kskssxoxskskss2189

    Жыл бұрын

    Nerd nightmare: different width tracks.

  • @bryan__m

    @bryan__m

    Жыл бұрын

    I thought maybe there were murders there or something. Definitely a bit of clickbait, which is unusual for this channel.

  • @joeanderson9852
    @joeanderson9852 Жыл бұрын

    👍👍

  • @IndianaTom
    @IndianaTom Жыл бұрын

    BAD TITLE - Nightmare ? Huh ?

  • @kevind8752
    @kevind8752 Жыл бұрын

    Please do a video on the Cheviot rail yard.

  • @historyinyourownbackyard2363

    @historyinyourownbackyard2363

    Жыл бұрын

    Good idea!

  • @kevind8752

    @kevind8752

    Жыл бұрын

    @@historyinyourownbackyard2363 I remember the train tracks came through Dent, ran parallel to glenway and crossed a trestle by Western Bowl before heading into the yard. The tracks then descended down Quebec Ave on a trestle extremely high off the ground before winding up at Union terminal.

  • @historyinyourownbackyard2363

    @historyinyourownbackyard2363

    Жыл бұрын

    @@kevind8752 yes I'm very familiar with those tracks as I grew up just a mile away from the Cheviot Rail Yard. I have some very good personal stories about that rail line. :)

  • @alvankarpas6245
    @alvankarpas6245 Жыл бұрын

    This is, in theory, a really great channel. Real people, real places, and real history. One thing that you might want to consider. The gentleman is eminently qualified and the hostess is naturally engaging and well spoken. But not everyone is able to carry a dialogue by themselves without some assistance, as was the case here. Perhaps the host could be more engaged in the delivery of the info, which did start happening around the 10 minute mark and afterwards. That way the guest does what they do best and the host help them carry the load by making the presentation more conversational. Just a thought... Still, great folks, great channel, great content.

  • @historyinyourownbackyard2363

    @historyinyourownbackyard2363

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the input! I appreciate it.

  • @alvankarpas6245

    @alvankarpas6245

    Жыл бұрын

    @@historyinyourownbackyard2363 like I say great show and content, and guests. The hostess is so engaging and personable that it would make it much easier for the guest experts and a more conversational style (talking between friends) would add a literal third dimension to the show. Great show and God bless...

  • @eddiewilder9799
    @eddiewilder97998 ай бұрын

    The title says "Nightmare". Where's the Nightmare in this story???

  • @peek-a-boo7877
    @peek-a-boo7877 Жыл бұрын

    What exactly was the nightmare?

  • @historyinyourownbackyard2363

    @historyinyourownbackyard2363

    Жыл бұрын

    The 3 different rail gauges at the terminal.

  • @peek-a-boo7877

    @peek-a-boo7877

    Жыл бұрын

    @@historyinyourownbackyard2363 Thanks. I guess I was expecting something a little more climactic with that kind of a title. 😂

  • @2Goiz_1ShanDA
    @2Goiz_1ShanDA Жыл бұрын

    OMG i forgot about my fur i get to wear my faux furs when i move back home! That's dankk!😍👍

  • @NitNgrit
    @NitNgrit Жыл бұрын

    Every one knows standard gauge is 56 1/2 inches

  • @JTLM_48442
    @JTLM_48442 Жыл бұрын

    Whoever she is she’s fine

  • @mikemiller551

    @mikemiller551

    Жыл бұрын

    Very fine. I thought I was going to be the first one to compliment her.